According to media reports, President Biden’s family has encouraged him to stay in the 2024 race. But Bill O’Reilly believes that Biden will still end up dropping out. Bill joins Glenn to explain why he believes this, and it revolves around former President Barack Obama and Biden’s former Chief of Staff Ron Klain. Bill also gives his take on who the Democrats will choose to replace Biden: Will it be Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer ... or will Michelle Obama come out of hiding at the last minute? And can any of them beat Trump?
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GLENN: You know, today is the kind of day, that you miss people like Bill O'Reilly. And I don't say that lightly, or often.
But you miss the days where you can flip on the news, and you would have a guy who is credible. And he would have some sources. Or he would at least know, because of his contacts, what's really going on in Washington, DC. Well, Bill O'Reilly, of BillO'Reilly.com.
Today is one of the shows that you will miss. You will miss a lot if you don't see it. He's on with us now.
He tweeted: The decision has been made. The president will quit the campaign.
Now, he tweeted that yesterday.
Bill O'Reilly joins me now.
BILL: Who is this? Glenn, who? Glenn Beck.
GLENN: Wow. Wow.
I got my first name. Bill O'Reilly.
That's a first to use my first name.
BILL: That's the first time. How are you, Beck?
I haven't talked to you in a while.
GLENN: Yeah. I saw your tweet. Then I think you reached out to me, and then I reached back out. Because I was going to reach back out to you.
All right. Spill the beans.
What do you know?
BILL: Okay. So the two people in charge of this are Barack Obama and Ron Klain. The former chief of staff of Joe Biden.
For the first two years. So they huddled and they actually talked to Joe.
I don't know whether it was on Zoom, or they -- in New York.
Obama was in New York, at a fundraiser, and then so was Biden.
But it's really tamped down.
And both Klain and Obama. And this is what my tweet was. decided that if -- so when I say that, what does that mean?
It means that they -- the two most powerful men in the Democratic Party right now, they are the two most powerful people, have said to Biden, you can't win.
You cannot beat Trump.
And he's the devil. He's evil.
But if you don't get out, you are helping evil. That's how --
GLENN: Okay. Hang on just a second. I don't think that that -- I don't think that would phase Joe Biden. He knows that.
He has a son. Anyway, this reminds me of Nixon. Where the tables turned on Nixon. And he lost the support of key members of the Senate.
They walked in and said, you've got to go. You've got to go. Now, are they going to offer any carrot or stick, if edgers go?
BILL: Well, that's an excellent analysis, Beck. You have to be partisan to be --
GLENN: Well. Gotten much older.
BILL: But it is very, very similar. So the Nixon people were telling the American public, oh, he's not going anywhere.
This is just -- he made a couple of mistakes. But, you know, he's a great president. Blah, blah, blah.
But behind the scenes, the Republicans said, hey. If you don't get out, they're going to arrest you. They're going to -- they're going to charge you with crimes.
And that's why Nixon went to the helicopter and waved to everybody.
Now, it's being presented by the, if you don't get out, you will go down in history as a villain. Because Trump will win. And it will all be your fault. 100 percent.
Now, Biden as you rightly pointed out, it's not he really -- he's not capable anymore.
Actually digesting that. So it's his wife that's making all the calls. So they go to Camp David over the weekend. They're still there.
I think their helicopter shows up in about 20 minutes. All right?
And she is going no way. No way we're living.
We're fighting this to the end. Jill Biden -- Joe Biden is just sitting there. You know, eating his sugar Frosted Flakes.
He didn't have anything to do with this. The fight now is between the party elders, and Jill Biden.
Who is digging it in, and saying, no. No.
Joe does everything I tell him to do. And he's not going to leave because we think we can overcome this. Now, let me give you the reason why they won't overcome it. That the Bidens may leave. And they may leave very quickly now.
They're trying to figure out, the Democrats, when to make this announcement. All right. They obviously have to get the Bidens on board.
But they also have to go to some kind of Plan B. Right?
So we will go to the convention with these people. They don't that have yet, okay?
GLENN: Well, how do they do that? And say they respect democracy?
I mean, there's no way to do that.
PAT: No. No. Yes, there is. Absolutely there is.
GLENN: Well, there's the superdelegates.
BILL: Yeah. All Biden has to do is say, I'm retiring for health reasons. Which you'll see. And I'm going to give my delegates. Whomever the party wants. And then Biden would be totally out of it. And they would tell him, go the delegate to see Kamala, to Newsom, to Whitmore, or whatever. That's -- and it's not that complicated.
LBJ did it, and it's ironic because he did it, and then the convention was in Chicago and all hell broke loose in '68. Well, where is the Democratic convention this year?
GLENN: Chicago. And all hell is going to break loose.
BILL: You bet. And all the anarchists and pro-Hamas people will be there.
Okay. So the reason why this is -- in my opinion, but it's more than an opinion.
Incontrovertible is that Biden's support was thin to begin with. He doesn't have core support.
It's all hate Trump support. Okay?
And so there aren't many Democrats. If you believe the CVS poll. To care if Biden is the nominee.
They don't have an emotional investment in Biden. They just want to see Trump lose. That's hygiene.
So he doesn't have a cadre of people outside of Jill.
And maybe Hunter, I don't know.
But he doesn't have that.
He doesn't have Congress.
I mean, the Congress people running around, undermining the hell out of him.
And his own people. You saw Jamie Raskin do that. My God!
GLENN: Uh-huh.
BILL: So he doesn't have a core support in Congress, or among the folks. They say they raised a lot of money from the debate. I'm suspect. But I don't think you're going to raise a lot of money going forward. Right?
GLENN: Okay. So, Joe. All right. So, Bill.
Who -- who do you think is most likely to replace him?
BILL: I don't know. But I will tell you who wants it.
So Kamala wants it. Kamala will not go quietly into the night.
And she will play the race card.
Okay?
Gender and race card.
That's what she's got.
She'll play it.
Newsom, I understand, just ordered hair products, a lot more.
So --
GLENN: Right.
BILL: He obviously wants it. Whit miles an hour in Michigan, wants it.
All right. Those are the three right there.
Now, they would like --
GLENN: What about big Mike? What about big Mike?
What about big Mike?
BILL: Big Mike. Who is big Mike?
GLENN: That would be Michelle Obama. That would be Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama.
BILL: I'm sorry, Beck. I didn't get the big Mike reference.
This is -- it is -- I have never in my 50-year career in journalism see any famous person locked down like Michelle Obama.
You can't get a whisper out of that. Anywhere. So obviously, that would be the savior, right?
GLENN: Yeah.
BILL: But there isn't any indication one way or the other. That she wants to do it.
And those of us who know Michelle Obama, and I know her a little bit. She is a very strong woman. Barack Obama is not going to go, hey, Michelle, you're running. No.
GLENN: No. No. You don't say that to big Mike. Listen, let me ask you, Bill. Let's not talk politics.
Let's talk security of the country.
First, who is running the country right now? Go ahead.
BILL: The three guys there in the White House, the chief of staff, the national security guy. That's the Irish guy.
GLENN: Yeah. Look at this. This is what we voted for. The Irish guy.
BILL: Right. Right.
GLENN: Jeez.
BILL: Jake Sullivan.
Thank you very much everybody.
And the -- his counsels. But you it's a triumvirate.
In the White House.
Nobody ever heard of these people.
They get no -- every once in a while, they go out. But not often.
And it's an alert, by the way. Very serious alert on US bases overseas and amnesties about a terror attack. Very serious.
GLENN: I know. I know.
BILL: So we have an incapacitated president. Go ahead.
GLENN: You're right. We have an incapacitated president. What the heck -- you know, who ordered the -- our nuclear sub to surface in the Norwegian sea this weekend, to send a message?
And it's kind of important to know who is actually running the show there.
Because we're on the verge of -- of war.
If we're stupid!
And I can't gauge, who is actually making the decisions.
Should the president step down, from the presidency?
BILL: Yeah. That would be Sullivan. Okay?
Look, this is a very, very chaotic White House.
You know, I got a book coming out, confronting the presidents.
We're with every president. And I sent that to you, Glenn.
And I'm going to hire someone to read it to you. I'm going to pay somebody to follow you around, and read you this book.
Because it's unbelievable about the difference in some presidents, and bide citizen the second worst president in our history.
Trump exaggerates saying he's the worst.
Nobody is worse than James Buchanan. Who actually lit the fuse of the Civil War.
But Biden is second.
GLENN: Hmm.
BILL: And it is so to me, because I do know what is happening on a daily basis. In the White House.
This man, there are three out of five days. And Axios has about 50 percent of this right today.
He's not even in the Oval Office.
He didn't even make it down from the residents.
That's how incapacitated he is.
And Jill Biden makes that call.
If you look at his schedule, and on the No Spin News. My news broadcast. We reported every day.
Most of the time, he has nothing on his schedule, but a fund raiser where he raises the teleprompter. That's it. He doesn't do anything.
And everybody in his administration knows this, which is why after the debate catastrophe, this is unbelievably shocking.
That they won't tell the truth to the American public.
The Democratic Party will not tell the truth.
This has been going on for a year.
It didn't just happen.
GLENN: Okay. Last question.
I have to get this in.
Is this -- is this better or worse, for Donald Trump, if Biden leaves.
Does it change it enough to -- to change the game, and people will just then say, oh, I will just go with somebody new.
BILL: Trump would defeat Joe Biden now no question. That's number one.
GLENN: No question.
BILL: Right. He beats Biden.
If Biden, when Biden steps aside, if it's Michelle Obama, that's --
GLENN: It's over.
BILL: -- formidable for Trump. That's trouble. Anybody else he can beat fairly handily at this point. Because remember, Trump got 70 million votes in 2020.
I estimate, the most he could lose on the 72 million would be 10 percent. That, again, brings it up to 65 million.
Biden will get nowhere near that.