RADIOJanuary 30, 2024

Did Biden RETALIATE against Texas with liquid natural gas ban?

After Texas refused to back down and hand over control of Shelby Park in Eagle Pass, Texas, to federal authorities, President Biden banned all new liquid natural gas (LNG) export approvals. While Biden claimed this was a climate-related decision, many criticized the timing, since it will likely hurt Texas' economy. So, was this Biden's revenge on Texas for trying to secure the border? Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton tells Glenn that he has "no doubt." Paxton joins Glenn to explain the state's latest border moves and address critics who say his razor wire lawsuit doesn't mention Texas' right to defend against invasion. Plus, he gives his take on the “Take Our Border Back” trucker convoy.

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GLENN: Attorney General Ken Paxton joins us now. Hello, Ken, how are you?

KEN: I'm well, good morning.

GLENN: Good morning.

So I just have to say, I read your -- I read your letter, to the general council of the US Department of Homeland Security. And I thoroughly enjoyed it.

This particular paragraph, I would like to quote.

You are talking to a man, who the Department of Homeland Security and the federal government has said, we have government land. And you're not letting us use and access our government land. So we can get down to the river.

You said, second, you say, the United States acquired a perpetual easement from the city of Eagle Pass in 2018.

What I said last week about the 2015 MOA, I'll say again now, about your latest claim. Quote, Texas never approved that transaction, as required by article four, section ten of the Texas Constitution.

Your federal agency cannot have something, that it was not the city's right to give.

You are invited to read that document, here.

And you'll hyper link to the Constitution.

But even if the 2015 MOA were somehow valid, you're not seeking access consistent with its terms. The nonexclusive easement from 2018, is attached for your convenience.

Its press purpose is to allow maintenance of a road, along the river, including the right to trim trees or other obstacles within the roadway.

Elsewhere, the 2018 easement prohibits the United States from making any permanent improvements, other than roadway without written city approval. If your federal agency wishes to help the municipal officials with tree trimming and road maintenance chores, I suspect they would appreciate the help.

The 2018 easement, however, nowhere contemplates allowing the federal government to deploy infrastructure that President Biden will use to waive thousands of illegal aliens into a park that will continue to be and used and enjoyed for recreational events.

I -- I -- I found your clarity enjoyable.
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KEN: Me too.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

KEN: I mean, it's not complicated. And they keep misstating what actually is true.

And you know that. About the border. And then about this particular case.

Because the law and the facts do not back them up. And so they make claims about how it's their property.

And how they have claims with the city. Obviously, not based in any fact.

So, anyway, it's -- it's the way they operate. It's how they've operated for three and a half years.

And he we will hope that the electorate gets it, and realizes how bad this is.

GLENN: So there's been people saying that, none of this constitutional stuff, was argued with the last case that was in front of the Supreme Court.

And if I'm not mistaken, that's true. You're arguing an invasion backed up by eight different letters. Given to the president.

He ignored all eight of them.

This is -- this is an attempt, I think, to get them, into the Supreme Court, is it not?

KEN: Yes. So it was what? Ten, 12 years ago, that Obama sued Arizona over their law, which tried to protect Arizona.

And Robert v. Kennedy, and the three little judges came in and said, it's preempted by federal law.

But it is true also, that we've seen a very different border than we've ever seen, and the consequences of that decision is that it dramatically negatively impacted the country.

I don't even know if you can measure it.

Both socially and economically. But it's also true, that it was argued that there was an invasion. So this is a different argument, in front of a very different court.

And we're hopeful that we can get at least the five justices that are not Roberts. And maybe that Roberts, if he starts realizing how bad that decision was.

GLENN: So, I mean, you have a -- the only case that I think that they could make, that the American people would understand is, well, this is not an invasion.

That's not what the Constitution meant by invasion. And we could argue that point all day long. And win a thousand times.

However, you're not the only one saying it. Now you have 25 governors saying it. And the state of Mexico is now saying, that they fear there's an invasion of their company, or country.

Coming in from the Southern border. Their Southern border.

KEN: Well, you're right. There's more people saying -- more recognizing it. It's become common knowledge. Common understanding.

It's also true. I don't think any of these states would have joined the confederation, or they were signed on to the Constitution. And I don't think Texas, be surely, at that time, would have signed on. If they believed. That the federal government would have passed laws.

About people coming across the border. And somehow not enforce those laws. And then the state would be prohibited from defending their orders, and they would have to allow all kinds of crime and who knows who coming across the border, including terrorists. I cannot believe that was the understanding at the time.

So it's difficult for me to believe, that that's what the Founders meant. And that's what really matters here.

What did the Founders envision?

GLENN: So I want to go back to this. Because Ken Cuccinelli and others have said, Paxton and Abbott are not asserting the invasion clause in the border fence case.

They did in the Buie case, but not this one. This is separate, correct?

KEN: Yes. There are separate cases. One, we were sued by the federal government. The other, we sued the federal government.

So we had different arguments for different cases. We made the invasion argument. The governor has declared an invasion. You can quibble over how we use it, when we use it. I guess if Ken wanted to write the brief, he can come in and try to help us.

But the reality is, you know, we've got a pretty good team, that is pretty successful in the Biden administration.

I guess you can say, they're not perfect. They don't get 100 percent of the wins. Guess what, we don't decide the cases either.

I don't necessarily think, that if Ken had the pen on every case, if he would get it all right either.

Or that we necessarily agree with him, on every particular point.

GLENN: But it's my -- and excuse me. I'm way, way out of my league on this one.

But it seems to me, that this is something entirely new.

What happened last week, after the decision, that this is entirely new. And you're trying to either get the government to try to sue you. Or you in a place, to where you have to sue the government.

So this is entirely separate, is it not?

KEN: That's correct. And we also have another law going into effect. We have the Buie case. We have the Concertina wire case, which is still going, despite the fact that the Supreme Court stopped the injunction.

We still have that case going in the fifth circuit. We also have -- we aren't even sued bit federal government and the ACLU, over a law that was passed and goes into effect. Passed by the legislature. State legislature. Goes into effect, I think March 5th.

And it says Texas can start deporting on its own. So all of these cases will be opportunities for us, to make the argument, hey, we're being invaded.

Hey, this decision that you made in the past cannot be right, given the consequences to our state. The federal government shouldn't be able to pass laws. And not not enforce them. They're actually aiding and abetting the cartels. They can't be allowed to help the cartels. Then we have to sit on the sideline. Suffer the terrible consequences of that decision.

GLENN: All right.

Back with Ken Paxton with more in just one minute, 60 seconds time. First.

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GLENN: Ken, what happens if the president says, I'm going to federalize the National Guard?

KEN: So he -- he has the right to do it. There's -- obviously, I think that's a bad decision. I think it's also a bad decision for his election changes. Because his numbers on the immigration issue are not good. And he -- if he takes over our National Guard, and makes it even harder for us to protect the border. Then I think that hurts him in the coming election.

So he has to make a choice here.

Does he want to continue to damage his reputation, and his standing on the immigration issue?

Or is he going to go forward with his policy for the last three and a half years. Which is dismantle every law that we have in place, to help the cartels, accomplish their goals of getting as many people here as possible. And building their network and our country.

GLENN: And he would probably have to nationalize the National Guard for 25 different states. Because they're sending their National Guard, right.

Yeah. Every state that sends the National Guard. I would assume, he would have to take him too.

So it will be very confrontational. It will be very directed at the states. And it will be very directed at helping the cartels continue their operation on the border.

GLENN: Do you think the L and G decision that came out. This weekend.

About natural gas, sales being curbed, for overseas.

For the next year.

Do you think that was directed to Texas.

KEN: Oh, I have no doubt.

That was at least a side part of it.

Obviously, they don't like any fossil fuels.

Even if they're clean burning fossil fuels.

They have -- they have enriched many people, dealing with this all this alternative stuff, that doesn't work yet.

It's not affordable for most Americans. There's no doubt in my mind. They were probably enjoying the fact, that it would hurt the Texas economy.

I think that's what the border is about.

The other part of what they're doing is they're bringing people into our state. So that we have higher costs.

We have law enforcement costs.

Health care costs.

We have education costs.

And they know that. And they know the Republican state has been successful, versus the Democrat states.

That's people voting with their feet.

And I think they're doing their best to damage and harm, in any way possible, even if it means higher crime, the Republican states.

GLENN: So, Ken, this is crazy conversation we're having.

KEN: It is. It's hard to believe I'm saying this. It sounds so conspiratorial. I can see what they're doing.

It's not like a secret, it's all out in the open. So for me to say that, I'm just commenting on nothing secret. I'm commenting on what I see.

And it's pretty obvious, this hurts our state.

It's pretty obvious. They're bringing these people in.

They want them to vote.

They want to use them in their congressional drawing.

It's pretty obvious, they will bring people to the Republican states. They will hurt the Republican states.

GLENN: So Friday, there was this moment, when the president said, yeah. You have twenty-four hours.

That it sounded like, wait. Twenty-four hours, for what?

And giving people the -- I mean, we're entering times.

If things go awry.

God help us.

I don't want this.

If things go awry. You will have the ambiguity of, wait.

Do I answer that law or this law?

And this is what a constitutional crisis looks like.

Do you -- do you see -- have you guys talked about that being a real possibility, that he does something really foolish? That causes real trouble?

KEN: Yeah. We've certainly talked about it. We've certainly thought about it. It's hard to imagine that he would somehow try to create some armed violent conflict. That certainly doesn't make a lot of sense. And if you think about it, people on the border -- Border Patrol agents, they're on our side. They don't like what Biden is doing. None of those people. They're all working together. They're all friends. They all know each other. Whether it's the National Guard. State police. Border Patrol.

They all have the same goal. They're just being forced by Mayorkas and Biden. To not only ignore the law. As I said, it's more than ignoring the raw. It's actually dismantling, and telling the cartels, we will help you. Don't worry about hiding people anymore.

They used to try sneak across. We'll -- we'll make it very efficient for you.

Seeing, they're making ten to $12,000 a person. So it's very helpful for the cartels to have the Biden administration doing this. And they know that. And that's why they're incentivized to get as many people here as possible.

GLENN: What do you think of the trucker convoy?

Is that helpful?

KEN: Oh, I would love to see the border shutdown. The reality is, anything that makes Biden blink and stop doing this, and economic consequences, when things aren't being shipped back and forth. Having economic consequences.

That's why we do economic sanctions. If this is the way we stop the terribleness. I don't have a problem with anything like that, that affects commerce and sends a message to the Biden administration. It's like a strike.

GLENN: Right.

KEN: And send a message.

GLENN: I worry, only because, you know, up in Canada.

Look what they tried to do with the truckers.

And did. But this is in Canada.

And as long as there are no infiltrators in there. They will be fine.

But again, this isn't Canada.

The law enforcement will not be looking to pick a fight with the truckers.

They will actually, I think, be more in line with. If there's somebody out of line. They will arrest them quickly.

But not necessarily blame it on the truckers. Unless the truckers were doing it. But I doubt that.

KEN: No. I agree with you. I don't think we have the same mentality as the Canadians. I say we.

I'm sure the Biden administration does.

They're in line with the Canadian government. There's no doubt about that. But I'm saying general law enforcement, is not sympathetic to federal law being violated.

And the cartels being enriched and helped.

GLENN: Right.

What do you -- what are you saying to the other 25 states, and is there a chance that any of the others -- like Denver just said, we're out. We have nothing. You have to get out of our homeless shelters. Because we can't afford to keep this. Or any of the other states possible on joining?

KEN: Yeah. Look, I think this is going past Republican/Democrat. You can see. These sanctuary cities were created during the Trump immigration. To complain about Trump enforcing the immigration law. Then when Biden came in, they started getting a trickle -- I say trickle, compared to what we have to deal with. And suddenly they're realizing, wow, this is really expensive, and it has high cost, both economically and socially. And they realize, this is not a good thing for our city. And I think you will see more and more cities. They literally -- just not enough money to pay for the entire cost, of millions and millions of people, moving into our country.

And we all be suffering for this, for a long time. And I think this hurts Biden in the upcoming election.

It hurts the country for obviously much longer than that.

GLENN: I know you don't have any of the details. Nobody does, and that's always a special surprise in these things.

But the bipartisan bill that Biden is trying to get through. Any thoughts on that?

KEN: I'm very suspicious. I don't want to give in and start allowing people in, in violation of our current laws. That doesn't solve the problem.

It just supposedly -- it's a deal for something that actually hurts the country.

So I'm not for -- I'm not against immigration. But let's make sure that it makes sense, and we're not hating, because Biden administration violated the laws for the last three and a half years.

And we will say, well, because he's letting in, you know, millions a year. We will say, he can only let in a million.

Well, that's not the way to answer this. They should follow federal law, and if they want to change the law, make it something that is good for America. Make it something that makes the system more efficient.

GLENN: Ken Paxton. The Texas attorney general, on Texas constitutional right to protect its border. Ken, Godspeed. Stay safe. Thank you.
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KEN: Thank you, have a great day.

GLENN: All right.

Banned CNN panelist reveals SHOCKING behind-the-scenes of Mehdi Hasan MELTDOWN

CNN has banned conservative commentator and 1776 Project PAC founder Ryan Girdusky over a joke that the network has called “racist.” But Ryan joins Glenn to expose CNN’s hypocrisy. Girdusky’s quip to MSNBC host, Palestine supporter, and fellow panelist Mehdi Hasan that “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off” was enough to get him removed. But Hasan was allowed to call Girdusky a Nazi?! Girdusky also notes that the other CNN panelists had no issue with constantly telling jokes about white people or comparing Trump to Joseph Goebbels. But there was one decision that CNN made that convinced Girdusky to just speak his mind, even if it meant getting fired …

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GLENN: Ryan Girdusky. You might have seen him. He was the guy. What did he do two weeks ago. We were on, going, yeah. Well, I think he's right about that?

STU: The problem -- he's a major problem. Because he keeps winning arguments at CNN.

And he's not supposed to do that.

He's supposed to be the idiot foil for the rest of the panel.

GLENN: Yeah. So now he's been banned on CNN. Because they're just after the truth.

That's all they want.

Ryan joins us in just a second or two.

Hang on just a second.

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Ryan Girdusky is on with us.

He's the founder of the 1776 Project PAC and a political consultant. Welcome, Ryan.

How are you?

RYAN: Good. Thanks for having me.

It's been one crazy 12 hours.

GLENN: I'll bet it was. For people who didn't hear it, let me play what happened on CNN.

VOICE: If you don't want to be called Nazis --

VOICE: You're called. Stop calling --

VOICE: Table.

VOICE: People are sitting there.

VOICE: By me -- I didn't call you an anti-Semite.

VOICE: I'm a Palestinian, I'm used to it.

VOICE: Yeah, well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off.

VOICE: You just said he should be killed.

VOICE: On live TV.

VOICE: Guys, let me just stop.

GLENN: So there's this fake outrage, of you said I wanted to be killed.

And Ryan immediately apologized. Okay. Fine. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that. I'm sorry. It was wrong. But the other guy doesn't apologize to you for calling you and people like you, a Nazi.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: In my book, that's worse than a Hamas member. I mean, they're in the same category. But what's worse?

RYAN: Well, the funny thing, it sounds much funnier in re-listening it than it was live. Because it was going crazy. Well, also the crazy thing was, he also said -- Trump sounded like Goebbels.

Now, I never met him before. I had heard a lot about him. But he was making accusations, that I was calling him an anti-Semite. That I was doing all these things to him. I had never spoke to him before. I didn't even know who he was.

And going on to that show, I decided like so -- so what happens if you don't do cable news, the producers text you all the topics, a few hours in advance. And they could range from people things you know anything about. Things you don't know anything about.

So I was -- so one of the topics they just changed it.

It was two segments on the Trump rally. Because obviously it's the most important thing in the world. They actually scrubbed the thing like war.

So then, we were going on, to do segment at the end, with Brian Stelter about trust and accuracy in the media.

And I just about lost it. And I was like, here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I said to myself, going to the show.

I was going to tell him, you're fake news.

You owe everyone on CNN an apologize for Russia. For Russia gate. For COVID.

For the Stormy Daniels. This is our last episode. Because they will never have me back. After I do what I do.

This was just a throwaway line. Because what happened, I got on set.

The woman sitting next to me. She was outraged. I was speaking to her.

She was making comments.

Like white man. Whole run into the show.

And looked just like -- it freaking irked me. I would never say opposite racial things like that.

But if I did, I wouldn't even make it to the show open.

But it was just like the double standard.

Then I said on the show, that people in the media -- everybody that attended the Trump rally was a Nazi. Abbey said that wasn't true. Totally true.

Abbey has falsely corrected me on things that I said was true, and she said, it was the Ferguson effect.

Which was very clearly -- even though, she was --

GLENN: That's what it was.

RYAN: So, anyway, I did the thing.

It was a throwaway line. Go to commercial. Then throws his mic on the table. Storms out of the place. I'm not going to be on with him. Abbey is like, can you please step aside?

Because Allison was like, he needs to leave. And I was like, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to embarrass. I hope you don't get in trouble from corporate. I told the producer, I hope you don't get in trouble. Because it wasn't very lovely to me. And I'm a professional.

And that was that. I was like, okay. Cool.

And you would have thought, you know, I was responsible of the Hindenburg disaster, the way people are responding to it.

I'm like, calm the freaking hell down. I said to somebody, who by the way, always stands up for terrorists.

You know, or sits there -- and kowtows to terrorists, that -- and terrorist-funded countries, that they are -- that, you know, that it's a joke. Whatever.

Like, grow a pair. Like, I don't know. I'm a man. If you sit there and make a joke at my expense and you apologize, I'm over it in 30 seconds.

I'm not going to go storm off and act like, you know what.

GLENN: Right. So go ahead.

STU: Ryan, people probably don't know a lot about this guy. Mehdi Hasan. You know, is he -- I'm sure you've looked into him, a little bit more since all of this has gone down.

He does seem to be well-known for conveniently taking the side of terrorists over and over and over again. What do we know about what his beliefs are?

RYAN: I don't know him. I genuinely don't watch cable news.

I don't watch MSNBC.

I watched him a lot. I don't watch MSNBC. Unless it's an election where they're losing or all crying on set.
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RYAN: So I don't know what he's all about. I genuinely don't -- I Googled him a couple of -- maybe a couple of years ago. He said that nonbelievers are all cattle and animals.

And that gays are pedophiles.

And he apologized. And stuff.

But that's basically all you need to know. Is like where they're coming from.

And I think that he was doing a show with the nation of -- I think it was Qatar.

I don't know.

I don't want to say anything.

He was doing a show with a foreign country, at one point.

He was booted off MSNBC.

Whatever. I don't know.

But literally like, I don't know.

I don't want to sit there and say more.

I can't --

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

It seems like, when you're talking about --

RYAN: It's not great. It's not great.

STU: Right. When you're talking about rhetorical flourish of sorts. You know, you can put your comment and him calling you a Nazi in roughly the same category.

RYAN: Right.

STU: It's an overstatement, sure. You're making a point.

It's a debate. But when someone comes after you, and calls you, the worst -- member of the worst group of people that anyone can ever imagine.

Like it's sort of normal to come back and be a little prickly about the situation.

RYAN: Well, also, the thing is they will never know what it is to be a conservative in the media. They will never. The only Democrat in probably the history of the world, know what it's like to be a Republican is Joe Biden. In the one month that they all sat there and said, you have to get out, and the whole media was against him.

They do not know what it's like to show up at your show, where the hosts are biased. And the guests are biased.

And it's three on one screaming at you constantly. And you're like, hey, I read the statistics somewhere, and it doesn't really matter.

Because what's important is the narrative. That's all they care about. It's the narrative. And the narrative and the narrative.

If you sit there and you shoot against the narrative for so long, it is -- you know, they have to get rid of you.

I don't care. It's not like I was going on CNN anyway.

I do school board elections with the 1776 Project.

That's what I do. This is just like something I did for -- well, three and a quarter episode, if you think about it.

GLENN: You were only on three and a quarter episode?
RYAN: Of Abby's show, and then the other show is on twice.

RYAN: I did maybe five and a quarter shows in like three weeks. All of them went viral.

STU: That's amazing. Yeah. I was going to say, I think every single one of them went viral. I thought you were on all the time, because every single time, I turn on Twitter, you're going viral for this.

RYAN: No. I was on -- I was on the whole network, less than a full six episodes.

And, you know, whatever.

I didn't care. I want to give credit to some person, to the booking person at CNN, who originally talked to me.

They said, they are looking for a Republican. You are a Republican, who will apologize for being a Republican.

It ain't me.

That's not what we're looking for.

You can come on.

I said, okay. Great. I told them flat-out who I was, that's I was very open and honest.

I'm not going to apologize for being a Republican. I'm not going to attack Donald Trump. Not on CNN. My grandmother would kill me.

That is not going to be me. And so like, whatever. That's all fine. And they let me on. So I'm lucky to have the opportunity.

Probably could have handled it differently. But at the end of the day, I'm not a Nazi. And the fact that one guest gets to call another a Nazi. And the other can't flip it in a joke. That was funny, by the way.

STU: Objectively a funny line. It is a little roast comedian. Like we just had this experience with the MSG situation. It's in that category, which they might not like, but objectively a funny line.

GLENN: So can I ask you, when producers called, they said you were a little reluctant to come on the air.

Why?

RYAN: When they called about, what?

GLENN: Coming on the air here.

RYAN: Well, like, listen, I didn't want to -- not that I don't want to amplify the story. I don't think it's a story. In 24 hours, someone will find something else to be outraged with.

I don't -- I went to a party literally like a few days ago. A conservative party, and every four seconds, some stranger I didn't know yelled at me, the Ferguson effect!

And I was like, great. And I'm like, okay, great. Now I will be called beeper for the rest of my life. So I didn't want to talk about this forever.

So I said, okay. I will do a few shows today. And then none after this.

And that will be that. And I was like, listen, I have a moment where I can talk about my PAC. My school board election. And mention it while I'm doing it. And that will be that.

I just don't think anyone really care about it, come in a couple of weeks.

And wait. One other thing, by the way, that other segment that I was on. This is the most insane story in the world.

I was on the segment with the Ferguson effect. The two women next to me. Ashley Allison. I don't remember the other girl's name. We only spoke about five minutes together.

We did a segment. For 25 minutes. Almost a half an hour. The one looked at, the one I don't remember. Her -- she looked at Ashley Allison, right on set, points at me, and says, what's his name?

And she goes, I have no idea. We've been on this show 30 minutes before our names were publicly announced. And didn't sit there and say, oh, hi, nice to meet you. Yada, yada, yada.

Lot of just mean girl nonsense like that. So, anyway, I just wanted to --

GLENN: So the 1776 Project.

Is that the 1776 project that was banned or stopped immediately after Biden got into office?

RYAN: No, no, no. It's a PAC to flip school board elections. We've done almost a thousand school board elections in three years.

We put money directly into school board races. To support conservatives for a myriad of issues. Everything from testing standards to, you know, enforcement of school rules.

To CRT, to the trans issue. There's one school board in Texas. That we literally booked every single seat in.

So we have done this.

We have races coming up in Maryland and Arizona next week.

We have hundreds of thousands of dollars into those races. And we're trying to sit there and to get conservatives elected across the country, to protect kid's public education.

GLENN: How do you feel about the election?

RYAN: You know, I'm nervous. I think Trump is doing well. I wrote something for my Substack, two days ago.

The craziest thing in the world. And this will drive you nuts.

In a 2020, the census admitted that they got the data wrong.

And they gave extra seats, Congressional seats to Rhode Island, Colorado, and Minnesota. Over Texas. Was supposed to get one extra. And Florida was supposed to get two.

If Trump wins the Sunbelt and loses the three Rust Belt states, he will lose the election 270-268. Had they not misallocated those seats, he would have won 270 and 267. So things like that, at this point, playing in my head, driving me crazy.

He will win one Rust Belt state. He just has to win Michigan, Wisconsin or Pensacola. Pennsylvania -- Pensacola.

Now, Pennsylvania. I'm thinking of Florida now.

I think things look good. Republicans are voting like their life depends on it.

Just brace into a little bit more, and we just need to get some independents along the way. And he should win one of those states.

GLENN: Let me ask you: What's your take on the support behind Kamala?

RYAN: I think a lot of it is people who hate Trump. I think a part of it is also the AstroTurf, female empowerment nonsense, that she's just so great.

And I mean, look, she went from being Selena Meyers on beat, to being a girl boss in 24 hours in the media.

Everybody remembers. And this is where they hid her for so long. This is why she's keeping her hidden. She has a billion dollars. It's a lot of money. She has all these unions. A lot of effort. What she doesn't have is a lot of support, but she's harping on this fascism and Naziism thing. Because she's got one group. One group that can put her in the White House. And that is suburban moms and dads. Who are very scared of it. And they don't have to worry about tax cuts. Because they make a lot of money. They don't live in a high crime neighborhood.

Their kids go to good schools. They are insulated in a very comfortable bubble.

A lot of them live in places that look like the 1950s.

It means nothing to them.

But Hispanics. Blacks. Muslims. Jews.

People who have a lot of stake on the line, they're living -- deal with 2020. And act towards.

They're increasingly voting for Trump.

That's why she's harping so heavily. That if you don't do this.

If you don't vote for me. You're a bad person. You're a bad white person.

You're a bad mom. You're a bad suburban person.

You're a bad person. You have to vote for me.

That is her closing methods. I don't know how effective it will. These people all vote. They all vote.

The noncollege educated. White working class. Blue-collar guy out in Pennsylvania

There were 2.66 million of them in 2016, who were not even registered to vote.

A lot have registered since then.

Twenty percent of all early votes Republican, are first-time voters. It's got to stay that way, and it's got to increase.

Yeah, that was the data that was released yesterday.

GLENN: Wow.

Ryan, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Hope we talk again.

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Pastor EXPLAINS: Does Voting Go Against Christianity?

Should Christians vote in the 2024 election? Some argue that they can't support either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. Others say Christians should stay out of worldly politics. But Pastor Josh McPherson of Grace City Church joins Glenn to explain why he has "a fundamental conviction that we cannot be Biblical unless we ARE political." It's time for followers of Christ - both in the pews and at the pulpit - to stand up, speak out, and VOTE: "When the Church goes silent, a culture loses its conscience and government loses its mind and everyone suffers."

Transcript

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GLENN: Josh McPherson is a guy I found online, I don't even know how long ago.

And just I love his sermons.

He's a lead pastor of Grace City Church. Founder of Stronger Man Nation, which is a movement to help men get stronger every day in every area of life, and helping dads raise boys to be stronger men, which is one of our problems, in society today. We are teaching everybody to be weak, and helpless. And that is not the way that God would have us to be. Josh, welcome to the program. How are you?

JOSH: I'm very good, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: Yeah, thank you. So I have been hearing from a lot of Christians, that are saying, I just can't vote for either.

JOSH: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: And I don't even know how to -- I don't even know where to start on that.

JOSH: Yep.

GLENN: This is so clear to me, that we are not battling Democrat/Republican.

We are truly battling light and dark. Life and death.

JOSH: That's right. Yep. Yep.

GLENN: Good and evil.

So how do you convince people?

JOSH: It's -- it's -- what COVID revealed in terms of our shallowness in thinking, in relationship to our role as citizens in our nation. This election is revealing it at a deeper level.

I think Christians have been misled and wrongly discipled in relationship to their responsibility, as citizens of heaven, to be engaged here, as citizens of earth.

GLENN: Right.

JOSH: And so with bad teaching.

The kingdom of God is spiritual, not physical. Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say, the kingdom of God is spiritual. The closest it gets is Jesus saying, my kingdom is not of this world when he's speaking to Pilate.

And he's not using that as an excuse to disengage from the world. He's using it as an apologetic to lean into the world.

He's saying, my kingdom is not of this world, which means I'm above your pay grade. And I don't have to answer your petty questions. The kingdom of God does not hover, Glenn, a mile above the earth. It lands in our sex lives, in our marriages, in our dysfunctional family systems, in our relationships, in our entertainment. In our food. And, yes, in our politics. When Jesus says, my kingdom is not of this world, what he's saying, is my people have the authority from heaven to step into the broken systems of earth and be salt and light.

The most basic texts of the Bible. Which Jesus explains how to think as Christians.

You're light. Light exposes lies. In darkness. You're salt.

Salt works against the natural decay of sin in the world. And right now, a pastor trying to convince Christians to be salt, while they're still in the box.

GLENN: And people think, that that adds flavor. No. It stops corruption.

It stops the corrupting of the meat.

BIANCA: That's exactly right.

GLENN: That's the way it was used back then.

JOSH: Yeah, there's this demonic gaslighting, that says that Christians should be political.

I have a fundamental conviction that we cannot be Biblical unless we are political. The entire story line of the Bible, is a story of God against governments. Rogue, empiric governments. Tyrannical. Abusive. Heavy-handed, oppressive governments like Egypt, like Persia, like Babylon, like Rome. And the story is those -- because when you remove God from a society. What replaces it typically is that which is biggest and most powerful, mainly government.

GLENN: God calls governments to submit to his rule of law, just like he calls individuals. And it's the church's job to function as the conscience of a society. And when the church goes silent, a culture loses its conscience. And the government loses its mind. And everyone suffers.

GLENN: I can't understand, when we have -- I mean, when we have one party that is putting up abortion vans for free abortions.

I mean, I wouldn't go to a concert that was doing that. Let alone a political party.

JOSH: No. No. No. Here's what I would say to Christians to wrestle with seriously -- I did five sermons to my church. You see them online if you want. GraceCityChurch.com --

GLENN: I'll tweet them out today.

JOSH: Okay. I wrote a small PDF to help people think through three questions. Should I vote? How should I think about politics? And then how should I vote as a Christian. So I can walk through that very quickly.

Should Christians vote? Here's the deal. 40 million Christians didn't vote in the last election. The last election was decided by 42,000 votes. Your vote matters. When the salt stays in the box, the meat rots.

GLENN: Jeez. Uh-huh.

JOSH: When Christians hold their voice back, culture goes into massive decline. Do you people wish the church would have gotten more political when Hitler squeaked through in an election? And 12 years later, 11 million people were dead.

GLENN: And do you know what the church did?

It stayed silent, and then it went into cahoots.

JOSH: The church abdicated its voice. And then aligned with evil out of fear and deception, and millions of people died.

I have a distinct sense that there are millions of people, the over.

Praying to God Almighty that Jesus Christ would wake up his church in America. Because if America goes off the rails, we haven't seen anything like it historically.

GLENN: Oh, I have heard it from a Chinese dissident, that was in prison in China.

Just because she believed in Jesus. She said, what you know we were praying for in China?

We were praying that you would be humbled so you would wake up to who you are.

JOSH: That's right. Should Christians vote? Here's what I would say, God made three spheres of human sovereignty. The family, the church, and the state. If Christians won't lead their home, Satan will.

If pastors won't lead their church, they become synagogues of Satan.

And when it comes to our constitutional republic, we need to almost stop using the word democracy. We don't want a democracy. We're a constitutional republic.

Which means we're guided by the moral absolutes outlined in the Constitution. Then we vote for men and women to represent us.

To make laws that will reflect the values of that Constitution. If we fail to do our duty in this Constitutional Republic, we are failing our children. And we will pass on to them, a social inheritance. That will bury them.

Right? So when I think about whether or not I should vote. If Christians don't -- if godly voices don't rise up, to speak up.

Godless voices will. And we will be held responsible for what happens. Christians need to carry a burden.

GLENN: People don't understand.

JOSH: For what God holds us accountable for.

I look at it like this.

Christians -- and I want to be sensitive to those who are like, well, I don't want to be partisan. Brother, listen to me. Sister, listen to me.

You cannot follow Jesus. And not be accused of following Jesus.

Because Jesus draws lines, and Jesus takes sides.

Look, I haven't asked the GOP into my heart. I'm a Bible guy. I'm a Jesus guy.

That's my lane.

If a political party happens to step into that lane, I am cheering them all the way. If they step out of that lane, I am prophetically calling them to obedience and submission to God's word. So this isn't me cheering on one particular party.

But let's be honest, one political party is explicitly advocating openly for demonic, horrific, perverse sin, and the other is not.

That's the bottom line. That you have to wrestle with.

What I find most Christians. I find very few Christians.

I'm going to vote for -- I hear a lot saying, but I can't vote for their side. But I don't agree.

Here's the deal. You don't do anything else in life. Was your spouse perfect when you married her or him?

No. You married him anyways.

We don't apply the same standard, where you're using Donald Trump to anywhere else in life. So no matter who is running for office, unless it's Jesus. You would have to hold your nose and vote at some point.

So here's what I would say for Christians to consider who are on the fence. Think of politicians in terms of three tiers.

Tier three is in the category of opinions. In this category, we -- we discuss, and we decide.

This is where the Bible is silent on these issues. And this is like, should Taiwan be granted favored trading status.

GLENN: Yeah.

JOSH: Should feds lower or raise interest rates. Should the post office use planes or horses to go to deliver the mail?

I don't know, but let's discuss. And let's decide.

The Bible will speak to it. I won't stick my nose into it. That's tier three. Tier two is in the category of wisdom.

Okay? We should debate and discern. The Bible speaks to it. But not clearly, how we should go about it. We agree on the goal. But we debate. Have the means. Should we care for the poor?

Yes. We should all agree on that. How do we do that?

Let's have a good debate. Let's pull each other on the extremes, walk in the middle, find the path. We can robustly disagree and debate and then go out and have a beer afterwards.

GLENN: Honestly, that's where we were at one point in our nation.

JOSH: That's Reagan and "Tip" O'Neill. Right?

Where it's like, no. Yes. What? Are you kidding me? I'll buy you a drink.

GLENN: Yeah. Because they had the fellow in common. They vehemently disagreed on how to accomplish it.

The goal was the same.

JOSH: That's right. There was a like-minded shared mindset for life. So what's happened now.

And most Christians are working from that framework. Tier three or tier two politics. It's opinions or it's issues of wisdom, which makes them feel uncomfortable to speak prophetically to it.

Here's the problem. There's a third category. Tier one.

And tier one. If the first -- the third -- the second is to have wisdom.

Tier one is, this is the realm of obedience. This is where we declare and divide. This is thus saith the Lord kind of things. Okay? Where the Bible has spoken clearly to it.

And to discuss -- we don't discuss and debate stuff. We submit to God's word. And we say yes, God, and we obey. These are issues. The sanctity of life. The sanctity of marriage. National sovereignty.

The moral law of God. The rule of law.

Religious freedom. Jurisdictional respect. These are the kinds of things, are the grid through which we think as Christians, where God is clearly and plainly without stuttering spoken, where we must say, thus saith the Lord. Not because it's our opinion.

Because of what we're calling the culture to submit to themselves God himself. Right? When we get into that category, tier one.

A Christian is obligated, I believe to engage. Here's the problem. In politics past, most of the ticket represented tier three and tier two.

And so Christians were reticent to say, thus saith the Lord. The Fed should lower their interest rates.

I agree. Don't stick your nose where God doesn't quote clearly. What's different about this election is almost every issue on the table. Representative on the ticket is a tier one issue, thus saith the Lord. And if the church does not step and up speak boldly through this moment, the vacuum we create will be filled, I believe with the godless and the demonic. Then we will be responsible for having been silent, in a moment where we needed Jesus to speak up.

GLENN: So there are two things that come through my mind, almost every day.

One, we will be held responsible for all of -- are these God's rights. Not ours.

We are put in charge to protect them. Or to elect the government to protect God's rights for future generations.

JOSH: That's right.

GLENN: If we lose these rights here, it's not just here.

It's the entire world could be cast into darkness. And slavery.

And we will be held accountable.

What did you do? And say, well, I just couldn't vote for either one.

It's not going to be an acceptable answer.

JOSH: That's right. Think about the moral dilemma, some Christians are having, about who to vote for right now.

It's nothing. In comparison to the moral dilemma, you'll be facing. If we have an openly rogue demonic evil government. That is using the force of law, and military, to -- to make you disobey, God's law. You will have much bigger moral dilemmas to face then, better to deal with these little ones. Hold your nose and vote.

Rather than, do I need to stand up and do something more than just pray in this moment, like Dietrich Bonhoeffer had to wrestle with in 1940s.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

The other thing is, when people say, well, my vote doesn't count.

For the first time in my life, I look at that, as a completely different statement.

JOSH: That's right.

GLENN: That's saying, I'm not going to be held responsible.

JOSH: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This time. This is like 1933.

At this time, if you don't stand, and it goes awry.

JOSH: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: He's not going to accept, that I just didn't invoke.

Because I didn't think my voice mattered.

In Texas, if you want to vote for a Democrat, it may not count.

You know, here in Texas. Because it will go, hopefully, it will go red. But it does count in your first citizenship.

GLENN: When I think about, my vote doesn't matter. Here's what I think.

No, no, no. It matters, because I'm not voting to appease a candidate or a party. I'm voting in response to God's commands. I'm voting for a holy God.

I'm voting to be obedient to my duty to be an active citizen of heaven. In the current citizen, I'm abiding here on earth.

When I think about that, Glenn, no, I'm voting for the sake of keeping my conscience clear. But before God, so I can look in the mirror and say, kids, I preach sermons. I talk to friends.

I wrote stuff. I joined my friends online.

I did everything I could, to move the needle for the sake of our nation. Friends, don't vote -- if we take this pragmatic approach, well, it doesn't matter. Well, we already ceded the battle. No, no, no. It does matter. It does matter.

If not only for you to say, I will not be shaken and silenced by the lies.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote -- I'm trying to think of it. Live not by lies.

GLENN: So good.

JOSH: And in the essay, he said, look, here's the deal. You may feel small in the face of this massive, tyrannical, totalitarian regime.

But -- but you're not as small as you think. You're only as small as the silence that you embrace.

He said, so if you stand up, they may shoot you in the head of the street, but only you can secede or turn over your freedom. So you can die a free man in the street, or you can live as a prisoner in your apartment. You could be freer in prison. Than you are compromising your values living at home.

And so what he said was, essentially, silence in the face of lies, is itself a lie.

Silence in the face of lies, is to perpetuate, and participate in that lie.

We are in a spiral of silence right now.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer talks about.

Eric Metaxas talks about it.

Which means, the less we speak up, the higher the cost for the ones that do.

GLENN: We're seeing it right now.
Hang on, I have to take a break. We'll be back in just a second. You are listening to Josh McPherson.

I will, on my social media, put out on his sermons on this. Share it with every Christian that you know.

GLENN: We're talking to Josh McPherson, about why Christians need to vote.

JOSH: Yes, yep.

I will say two things. If there are those that are sitting on the fence, I get it. There's been challenging things to figure out, sift through. I understand. Three things within one. This is from many conversations, your vote isn't a Valentine.

You know, oh. I just get the warm fuzzies. That died with JFK.

Right? So like don't vote for warm fuzzies or personalities. Think -- be more sophisticated in your thinking. Think about policies. Personalities will come and go. We'll be left with policies, for the rest of our life. Don't think your vote is a Valentine. Secondly, your selection isn't a sacrament.

So many Christians, well, if I vote for them, they might do something immoral, and then I'm responsible.

No, no. Your vote isn't a sacrament. You're essentially exercising your right as a citizen, to -- to advance people, in positions of authority, that you think have the best shot of aligning most closely to a Biblical worldview.

GLENN: And if they don't, then your responsibility kicks in to speak out to stop them.

JOSH: That's right. We're in the most important in a moment our history, coming up in our election.

Then the next week will be just as important. Don't vote and then back off. Get more engaged. Speak up. Say things that are true, longer and louder. So it's not a Valentine.

How do I say it? Your vote is not a sacrament. Then lastly, this is crazy.

The ballot box isn't a mailbox. I heard a ton of Christians going, well, I'm not going to vote and send a message.

Why write an email and never hit send? No one cares that you didn't vote. The only outcome that matters is who wins.

So don't think you're sending a big message by not participating. That's a lie from the pit of hell, to silence the voice of the church. In maybe the most critical moment in the history of our nation.

And I will say this, pastors, you must be bolder. You must speak up louder and longer.

It may feel weird to talk about politics and the pulpit to you. But that's because you're living in this weird bubble and moment of history.

You're out of step with the great preachers of history in the past, who have always thundered from the pulpit, how to be engaged in politics.

GLENN: I am hungry for preachers to speak the truth, based on the Bible. I am hungry for it!

How do I apply these 2000-year-old teachings to what's happening right now?

JOSH: That's right. It's disingenuous to expect the pastors in their church to be bold in the marketplace, when they're failing to be bold in the pulpit.

GLENN: It is so great to see you.

JOSH: You too, Glenn.

GLENN: I actually will meet with the president tonight. And I'm hoping to convince him to do something with TheBlaze and Trinity Broadcasting. And I would love to invite you to be a part of it, if it actually comes through next week. I would love to have you be a part of it.

Because I have seen your social media, and you are right, spot-on.

JOSH: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

Ten seconds. We just started a school. Guard City Academy. There's 286 kids in class, listening right now, learning to become Christians and patriots. I want a huge shout-out to those guys. Go Farmers!

GLENN: God bless you. You guys are great.

Thank you, Josh.

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You Have a TRACKER in Your Pocket Sending Data to the Deep State | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 233

Our cell phones are collecting way more data on us than we think, and it’s shockingly easy for Big Tech, government agencies, and a wide array of bad actors to access it. Glenn speaks with Erik Prince, retired Navy SEAL and the founder of the private military contractor Blackwater, and Ryan Paterson, retired Marine and Big Tech insider, about their new venture, Unplugged, which aims to solve as much of this massive personal security breach as possible. Erik and Ryan explain how anyone who buys our data can learn our routines, discover who we are, and even know which side of the bed we sleep on: “It’s worse than George Orwell even imagined.” Erik and Ryan also address excuses like, “They already have all my data,” or, “I have nothing to hide.” But first, Glenn speaks with Erik about his incredible backstory: Why did he, the son of a successful entrepreneur, become a Navy SEAL and start Blackwater? Erik also provides insight on the conflicts around the world: Can Trump stop the war between Russia and Ukraine? Can Israel free Iran from Islamist tyranny? Was America’s war in Iraq for nothing? Is the Chinese Communist Party our greatest adversary? What did Trump’s comments about “the enemy within” really mean? Plus, he shares his plan for how to make the U.S. military both less expensive and more efficient at the same time.