RADIOJune 17, 2024

Why Biden Won't Stop "Racist" Government DEI Programs, But Trump Would

Former president Donald Trump has proposed an idea to abolish the income tax and replace it with more tariffs on foreign goods. Is this a good strategy if Trump wins the presidency? Sen. JD Vance gives Glenn his take: "We want to tax production less. We want to tax making stuff in China more...it's a really smart idea to reward [Americans] for making things." Plus, Sen. Vance details his proposal to dismantle ALL federal DEI programs: "The way that our federal government has interpreted [diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives] is to explicitly allow racist decision making."

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And J.D. Vance is on the phone with us. J.D. Vance, senator from Ohio. Also a short list. For Donald Trump.

I'm sure he's going to -- he's just dying to talk about that. Because they always are. Everybody on the short list. They're like, oh, please, ask me about that. So, go ahead.

Spill it. Spill the beans. Spill the beans.

J.D.: My favorite topic.

GLENN: Yeah, I know.

J.D.: I said this, Glenn. I have not talked about Trump about it. Yes, I am aware that they're looking at me. And I think they're probably looking at 20 other people. And I'm sure they will make this decision. And if it's me, like I said, repeatedly, I would be interested in it, because I think it's important to help him. Because if he doesn't win this election, this country is in a tough spot. So that's pretty much it.

GLENN: Now, you were in the meeting with him yesterday, right?

J.D.: I was, yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Because he said, the guy I'm going to pick is most likely in this room with us now.

J.D.: Oh, I didn't see that.

But unfortunately, for the oddsmakers, there were like 49 other people in the room. So it doesn't help.

GLENN: Yeah. So tell me a little --

J.D.: Yeah. Let me just sort of set the stage. One is a very positive meeting. You obviously have people who are more allied with the president and his agenda. You know, like me and Bill Hagerty and Marco Rubio and so forth.

And you also have people in the rooms, who are very -- you know, even in the last couple of months, have been very critical of the president.

And I think what you saw is just a recognition that we have to unify to the Republican Party. When there's an election.

GLENN: Thank you.

J.D.: And look, there are guys that are running, that I wish their primary opponents had won. And I wish we had a different candidate representing the Republican Party. But there isn't a single person running, at least in the Senate, who I would rather have as a Democrat take their spot.

The other thing that is really interesting, Glenn. You have to realize, the internal psychology of Republican senators right now. They're looking at every single one of these Senate ballots, in the polls.

Suggest that whether it's by five points or 15 points, our Senate candidates are running behind Donald Trump, in the core battle states. If we actually want to take back the Senate with a solid majority.

We need the president to help us close the margin between our guys and his margins.

And I think he will help us do that. As we get down the stretch here.

There's just a recognition here. That you happen into something, especially into this cycle. And if we can get that thing to reverberate to the benefit of our Senate candidate, we can win a major, major victory in the United States Senate.

GLENN: And he was -- he was really kind of conciliatory yesterday. He seemed to be in good spirits.

And, you know, recognizing that we -- you know, we don't all agree on everything.

At least that was the impression that I got from his conversation.

Would you -- would you agree with that?

JASON: Yeah. I agree with that, Glenn. He was extremely friendly.

He was obviously in a good mood. I think, you know, he made -- he was very friendly to Mitch McConnell, of course, who has not always been the best ally of Donald Trump.

He was friendly to everybody in the room. And, you know, he said like, look, even when we disagree, our disagreements pale in comparison to the Democrats.

And we're at this stage. And, you know, I've done this now, Glenn, twice. I've been in politics for two cycles. Where right now, we're sort of in the hurt feelings stage.

Where a lot of people who didn't win primaries, grassroots activists, donors, state chairmen and so forth, they're kind of frustrated. And they're exhausted from the primary season.

And they're not thinking about the future. And I just think, you know, Trump is maybe the only guy in the party who can kind of stand before everybody and say, look. Yeah. Maybe your guy didn't win. Maybe we haven't agreed on everything.

But now it's time to save the country. And to do that, we have to win.

GLENN: He said yesterday, that he was. And I'm going to get to something that you want to talk about. The DEI programs going away, which is so important.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We'll get to you in a second. But one more question on this meeting yesterday with Trump.

He said that he wanted to abolish the income tax, and replace it with tariffs.

J.D.: So that was not in our meeting. I think it may have been in another meeting that take. I saw the headline. That was not in our meeting.

Look, this is a fascinating proposal. And we can talk for a while about it.

But, you know, we have to sort of think about, when we tax something, we get less of it.

And we should ask ourselves. We have to raise revenues for the military. And Social Security and so forth.

GLENN: Correct.

J.D.: What do we actually want to raise revenues from? And my view would be, we want to tax production less. We want to tax making stuff in China more.

Well, that's what a tariff fundamentally does. Whether you get rid of the whole income tax. I think it's a really smart idea to say, we want to reward people for making things. We want to reward productive work. We don't want to reward making stuff in the home country of our chief rival.

And I think that's fundamentally where Trump's head is on this matter.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, I will tell you, I think if we don't take control of the Senate and the House and the White House, we're just going to be treading water at best.

If they win those, we are -- we are done.

They have -- they have put so many deadly fruit trees in all of our agencies, and all of our government.

That I just don't see us being able to survive it. The fundamental transformation will be finished, in the next term.

And you have introduced legislation to dismantle all of the federal DEI programs, from the federal government.

Thank you!

J.D.: Yeah. We have. And to your point about the Senate, Glenn, this -- the Senate, of course, we approved all of the political appointees. And if you want to root out the Deep State of the bureaucracy, you need political appointees who are aligned with the agenda.

And what this legislation does. I'm not an idiot. Joe Biden will not sign it, but Donald Trump would.

And what it would do is really destroy the diversity, equity, and inclusion bureaucracy that exists in our country. And people say, well, who doesn't like diversity, right?

Doesn't diversity mean, you have my Mexican restaurant down the street.

No. The way the federal government has interpreted this. Is to explicitly allow racist decision-making. Primarily targeting white and Asian-Americans. Now in the 21st century.

But explicitly racist decision-making. And contracting and hiring in the provision of grants. Some of these programs, by the way, have been held flatly illegal by the federal courts. For example, there was a farm program, that explicitly excluded white Americans from the provision of farm assistants to our farmers, and that's ridiculous.

You can't discriminate, whether black or white, against people on the basis of their skin color.

This would proactively root this stuff out of our government, and it's a very important first step to getting basic merit back in our federal system, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah, and I don't think even black farmers would -- would have wanted that.

I mean, maybe some would. But, you know, farmers rely on each other.

And they need to help each other.

Because, you know, if Bill's crop is down year. It might be my crop down this year.

We're all in this together. The last thing you want is now new racial barriers between neighbors.

Where he gets the help from the government, and we don't. It's not a good idea.

GLENN: It's not a good idea at all, Glenn.

And to your point about how black farmers feel about this stuff. If you look at public polling on this. What you consistently find is that black Americans.

And most Americans don't like racial quote as. They don't like racial discrimination. Whether it benefits them. Their group or harms their group.

One group of Americans that seems to really like racial quote as are very high education, white Americans.

GLENN: White. I know.

J.D.: That is the one group. That is the one group that seems -- by the way, they're not going to lose out, when the quota system comes out. Because they pull all the strings.

But they're not doing it for the good of the country. I think they're fundamentally doing it because they look down -- they look down on white Americans who don't have their same education status.

And a lot of -- one of my theories, Glenn. A lot of what is broken about America. High education whites who really hate low education whites.

And I think you see this as a main driver of a lot of very stupid public policy. And, frankly, a lot of very evil public policy in this country. So we have to root it out. That's what I'm trying to do.

GLENN: I mean, it's really -- I mean, this -- can it wasn't like this before. Because our education system was much more local. You know, and -- and not as -- you know, you didn't have all of the smart people, going to this one college. And so they were only surrounded by really, really smart people.

And then get married to the same kind of thinking. You know, you would have a great disparity in -- in education and experience in families.

All the time.

But now, the elites, they wouldn't marry into a farming family. They don't understand it. They don't like it, generally speaking.

JASON: No. That's right. Glenn, so there is this real classism, right?

I think that's a much bigger problem than racism in modern America. But it's actually made our American system much stupider. Because to your point, you know, the smart kids would be woo become doctors and lawyers and engineers. And the kids who didn't like school as much, would sort of do something else. Sort of everybody lived together and worked together. And the community kind of worked together.

When you silo people by education, what we find is that we send people to colleges, and they don't get good training in useful skills.

They increasingly get indoctrinated in how to be crazy people.

Even the educational institutions stop serving their function. When you stratify this thing in a way.

And I think you're seeing evidence of that in our country right now.

GLENN: What are the chances that this even passes?

I know Biden will not sign it. But you think it will even get passed?

J.D.: Look, I don't think it will get out of the Senate. I think the House will support this.

What we're trying to do is plant seeds. One of the things that happened in the 2016 campaign, is Republicans really expected Trump to lose. So when he actually won, there wasn't the foundational work that had been done, to make the -- the -- you know, just to pass a bunch of legislation.

GLENN: Good. Good.

J.D.: We're trying to do that. We're trying to set up the next administration for success.

And at the very least, have a debate about what kind of country we want. Do we want a country that discriminates based on race? I think the answer is no, and I think 90 percent of people agree with me.

GLENN: Do you believe that the -- the next administration can fire enough people, to make a difference in the Deep State?

BRIDGET: I do, Glenn. But it will be one of the most important fights.

I think the two things that hopefully President Trump does in his second term. And I know he wants to do. That will cause massive backlash from the media. We need to support a large number of illegal immigrants that have come here the last number of years.

And we also really need to root out the federal bureaucracy, to make it more responsive. To make it smaller.

But to make it really democratically accountable to the people elected president.

The media will howl about this stuff. They will call it fascism. They will call it every name in the book.

GLENN: It's the opposite!

J.D.: It's the opposite. Exactly. It's accountability.

That's the opposite of fascism. And, frankly, we have fascism at the bureaucratic level. Where people's lives are controlled by people they never elected, right?

That's not democracy. That's not the Republican form of government. So look, this is the most important thing structurally that we have to fix at the government.

I think Trump is committed to it.

And I think the question is: Do you have enough Republicans in there, who have the willpower and the courage to fight alongside of them? And I think that's the big question.

GLENN: I hope -- yeah, well, we have a lot of people like you, where when we did the Tea Party thing years ago, we didn't -- we didn't have -- we just didn't have the people in there, who really, truly had the foundation that they had been thinking about for a long time.

And I think we do now. We have a lot of really good people. We need more. But this is the best chance, of success, that I've seen in -- in a very long time.

The Tea Party turned out to be, you know, we were really fighting the -- the Deep State, in the Republican Party. And I think that one is on its last legs.
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J.D.: We need to win the fight, Glenn. If we don't, I think we could really lose our country.

GLENN: Yes. I agree. JD. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio. This is a good seed planting. Because DEI does need to go from all of our federal agencies and federal programs.

Thank you so much, J.D. Appreciate it.

EXCLUSIVE: Chip Roy Explains His FIERY Rejection of Spending Bill

According to the media, there’s a big fight going on between Republicans over the House’s new slimmed-down continuing resolution spending bill. Some, including President-elect Donald Trump, wanted the bill to pass. But others, like Texas Representative Chip Roy, argued that it still wasn’t ready. However, is the Republican “unity coalition” really crumbling, like the media claims? Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn to explain what’s really going on. He argues that he IS trying to give Trump and DOGE a 100-day “runway” to fix the country. But he makes the case that, by increasing the debt ceiling by $5 trillion without agreeing on other cuts, this bill gives bad actors the ability to be an “obstacle” to Trump’s agenda further down the line. Plus, he reveals to Glenn that he believes some of these bad actors LEAKED false information about his stance to Mar-a-Lago.

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GLENN:

I think we have a great opportunity today. To show you how to have a -- tough conversation, with friends, friends. Where you deeply disagree on something.

But you know that their intent is good. They know my intent is good. Or our intent is good.

And we actually have the same end goal, but we disagree on the path. And we're going to walk away friends.

Chip Roy is joining us today. And, Chip, I love you. And I always will. And I agree with your, we've got to cut spending. We have to. But Liz Wheeler is with me. And we've been talking about it all morning. It's the -- the -- the -- the system of DOGE and Trump, the call-out to the world, in saying, you've got to surrender the Capitol. You know, the bad guys are in and about to take all the money.

Surround, and tell them, come out with your hands up. And that happened. And we scored a massive win, in an entirely new way.

Ask then you stood on principle, one we both agree with.

And it failed!

And so here's -- here's what Liz and I were talking about. Here's what we want to say to you.

And then get your response.

LIZ: Hi, Congressman Roy, this is the way I see it. I want your take on it. I love you. I think you're one of the best members of Congress. I disagree with you on the process that's happening. And I think that is the difference. The process. We elected Donald Trump to be a disruptor. Because Republican members of Congress for decades have been telling they're fiscal conservatives. They want to decrease the debt SEAL. It hasn't happened.

It hasn't -- it hasn't been done. And so Donald Trump comes in with Elon Musk, and uses this DOGE process to first identify these pieces of garbage in the first 1500-page bill. And take those things to the people. We took them to members of Congress. Congress said, okay. We'll listen to you.

So that new process was very effective.

And my question to you is: Once that process was proved to be effective. Which I think is exciting and wonderful.

How do we bridge this divide, with you, to say, okay.

Let's put some faith in this new process. And trust Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Dow Jones process, to eventually address the debt ceiling, but get this done right now?

GLENN: And not blind trust. Chip.

CHIP: So appreciate you guys. Appreciate being on the show. Particular order. I have to go through a couple of things.

GLENN: Yep.

CHIP: Number one, it's important to remember that my job and my duty is to the Constitution, to God, and the people I represent. I told them, when I came to Washington, I would not -- I would not let the credit card and the debt ceiling and the borrowing of the United States without the spending restraints necessary to offset it.

GLENN: Okay.

CHIP: Right now, all we have are promises and ideas and notions. What I know, that neither of you respectfully no, and that none of your listeners respectfully no are the people that are in the room, that I was in with yesterday. And the day before, who are recalcitrant.

And do not want to do the spending cuts that we need to do.

That I believe the president and the DOGE guys. And everybody want to do.

My job, is to force that through the meat grinder. To demand that we do our damn job. Okay?

GLENN: Okay. So hang on. Okay. So wait. Wait. You're right. You're right. You're right. Go ahead.

CHIP: Number thee, when we were going through the bill, I'm glad the bill dropped from 1,550 pages to 116 pages. Three-quarters of Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it, have been out there spreading false facts that we supported a bad bill and didn't like the better bill.

That's not true. But let's be Lear. The 1400 pages that were cut out. It's a panacea.

There were some good stuff in there. There were some bad stuff in there. There was a lot of disinformation.

There wasn't a $70,000 pay raise. There was a 3,000-dollar pay raise.

I didn't support any pay raise. I didn't support a lot of the stuff in there.

But there's a lot of misinformation. And here's the thing: The 116 pages that were left, and I opposed violently the first bill. I was leading the charge on fighting and killing the first bill.

GLENN: And I love you.

LIZ: The second bill for 116 pages. Turned off -- turned off the pay go requirement. That we slash 1.7 trillion automatically.

And added a 5 trillion that are increase.

My view was, I could not support that, without a clear understanding of what cuts we would get, in mandatory spending next year. And undo any of the Inflation Reduction Act.

The undoing of the student loans. The undoing of the crap with the food stamps.

And everything else. I yield back.

GLENN: Okay. I yield back.

Chip, you're not in a hostile room. We love you. And we agree with your end goals. It's our end goal too. We didn't make that promise that you made to the people that voted for you. So we have more wiggle room here.

But you say -- I think our big difference is, you say, I know the guys in the room.

You're right. You do. And we -- we ceded that earlier today on the show.

You are -- one of us is wrong on trust.

I don't trust any of the weasels in Washington.

But I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have earned enough trust, to get a grace period, here for the first -- maybe the first year.

Or at least six months.

To turn the economy around, and also reduce the size of the government.

And totally flip this thing.

And I know, as somebody who is -- you know, run a company, mainly into a ground. But run a company, and have to switch it, in the middle, and totally reshuffle. That -- that actually costs money, while you're doing it, to bridge the gap.

Because you have to fill up holes while you're filling in the gap.

You don't trust the people in the room. Neither do we.

But we do trust the system that worked on Wednesday with DOGE and Donald Trump.

Where do we disagree?

Can you give them --

CHIP: We don't disagree. And yesterday morning, I was making that precise argument in a room full of conservatives and then a follow-up room with people who will call it, less conservatives.

GLENN: Republican. Yes.

CHIP: And so we were making this argument. And then someone infamously. Something leaked out of the room, somehow out to Mar-a-Lago. That I was being resistant. Because I was negotiating trying to get the agreement to achieve the objective that you just said. I was trying to get, okay. In fact, yesterday morning, I made the argument to a group of conservatives. We need to give the president runway. We need to give him his first 100 days. We need to appreciate JD, and Vivek, and all the people -- and everybody involved. For the president to achieve the objective.

But to get there. We have to make sure that the guys in the room, that are an obstacle to that, don't have the ability to block it.

Because information flow matters. And when those guys tell the president, they can't achieve X.

Then the president will not achieve X. Our job was to force and demand, guys, we need actual understanding of what the cuts will be.

And because otherwise, we're asking us to accept a 5 trillion-dollar limit in our credit card increase. In exchange for nothing!

Literally, in exchange for nothing, but -- but hope.

So our job was to force that change.

Unfortunately, while I was trying to make the argument that we needed something in order to get the votes, someone leaked that down to Mar-a-Lago, and the president reacted.

But now I have to now manage that.

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

CHIP: They're trying to enforce change in town.

GLENN: So hang on.

We have to leave this. Because I'm going to run against the clock.

I could talk to you all day about this. You were in a meeting this morning about J.D. Vance. Can you tell us anything about that meeting?

CHIP: That meeting happened, because despite what happened yesterday, I'm trying to get this done. Last night, talking to JD, we worked to get this meeting done. We had some good progress this morning.

But there still remains people concerned about spending. That we can work out, what agreement we can reach. On what spending cuts. We can actually get next year, in exchange for giving the vote on a debt ceiling increase.

So it remains fluid. Progress was made. But we have to keep working on it.

And I left that meeting to talk to you. Soil get an update in a minute.

GLENN: Thank you for that, by the way.

I hear there is a new bill that may be coming today.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Or is this another bill that could be another nightmare?

CHIP: Despite other people leaking crap, I refused. I can't say, because it's not been decided by the speaker.

And it's not right to talk about things they're talking about in private meetings.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's -- it's this speaker. I mean, is he really the speaker anymore, Chip, really?

CHIP: We need to hear what bill we need to get forward. And I can't talk about the private meetings. But, look, I'm going to keep fighting for what I promised people that I represent.

I'm going to fight to cut spending. I am going to represent article one.

I'm going to support the president's agenda, but we've got to do that together.

GLENN: Okay.

Chip, thank you.

I think we can -- I think we agree, but I await to see what that means to you. Because we may just have to agree to disagree on this.

But I love you. And I still want you to replace Cornyn.

CHIP: The short version is, for inflation's sake, we cannot increase the debt ceiling $5 trillion without knowing what we're getting for it.

And I don't think anybody should disagree with that.

GLENN: But you don't disagree that Elon Musk and Trump and Vivek are serious about gutting the system.

CHIP: I believe that is their objective. I believe there are obstacles to that objective. And I need to know the sincerity of how we deal with those obstacles, both structural, and human. And we have to figure that out. And that's my job.

America's Favorite Villain Is Ready for Nuclear Fallout. Are You? | Glenn TV | Ep 401

In this episode of Glenn TV — a theatrical how-to guide to survive the breakdown of society after a nuclear attack, according to the new movie “Homestead” from Angel Studios. Glenn Beck interviews the movie’s star and executive producer, Neal McDonough, who plays the head of a family trying to survive as society is breaking down in a postapocalyptic world. You’ve probably seen Neal in everything from the hit TV shows “Yellowstone,” “Suits,” and “Justified” to movies like “Captain America,” “Minority Report,” and the groundbreaking mini-series “Band of Brothers.” Glenn asks Neal what it’s like to play a villain so often, how TV and movies are changing, and how he survived Hollywood as a devoted Christian and husband who refuses to do onscreen kissing scenes with any of his female co-stars. They also discuss his battle with alcoholism, what it’s like working the legends like Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Costner, and the cultural craving for Western cinema. Note: Angel Studios is a sponsor of “The Glenn Beck Program.” Get your tickets for “Homestead” at https://Angel.com/Beck.

Biden FLOODED the Government With DEI, But Trump Has ONE Way to Win

With just weeks left in office, President Biden (or whoever’s actually calling the shots) has decided to hire 1,200 DEI officials. Is this part of a plot to undermine Donald Trump’s plans and make it harder for him to rid the government of woke Deep State bureaucrats? Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ discuss how other Democrats have recently proposed things like this, including a UK-style “shadow cabinet” that would oppose Trump. Liz also gives her advice to Trump on how to deal with these new DEI officials, who will be paid hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to focus on things like “health equity” …

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GLENN: Okay. Where were we, Liz?

LIZ: The Biden administration. Although, not Biden. Because he can't tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, trying to sabotage the Trump administration.

GLENN: Yeah. So the latest on this is now Biden is hiring 1200. Biden is not doing it.

But he's hiring 1200 DEI officials, and putting them just under the appointed official. So there will be 1200.

Some of these people make almost $400,000 a year. $400,000 a year! That's your tax dollar!

Will you -- in your -- in your life, your average person, I don't know if you'll ever even -- if you'll ever even pay $400,000 in taxes?

So you could be working your whole life, for that one hire.

And he's hired 1200 of them.

And all he's trying to do is make sure the DEI positions just can't get cut.

I've got news for you.

Donald Trump is going to cut those positions.

He's going to. And it's going to get ugly.

I mean, the ACLU was all over this, saying, oh, we've got plans. We're going to -- we're going to -- this is obscene.

This is absolutely obscene. What the Democrats are trying to do. By thwarting the president.

And honestly, thwarting the will of the American people. Remember the speech that was given by I don't know, some boob from -- well, one of the Carolinas.

I don't want to besmirch the other one for electing a boob. But he was -- he was giving a speech in the well of the Senate. And he said, we need a shadow government. What?

Hold it. You mean a Deep State. Because we already have one of those. And he said. This is a quote.

One of the most obscene things I've ever heard from an elected representative. We failed to make our case. That our policies are better.

Now, in my world, growing up in America, the next sentence is: We need to sit down and talk and find out why we're out of step, with the American people.

His was, but we know we're right. So we need a shadow government, to make sure we put our policies in, anyway.

There's nothing more un-American than that.

By the way, Ted Cruz also said, he thinks there's criminal charges that could be lodged against Biden and his administration for the selling of the steel and the walls for the border.

I think so too. I think so too. He'll probably end up blanketing or pardoning everybody that has either lived by a Biden. Or a Democrat.

Worked for the administration. Everybody will get a pardon at the end.

Honestly, it's like, hey. Everybody, Oprah is here.

Look under your seats.

Because you've got a pardon. You've got a pardon. And you've got a pardon.

Ugh!

Now...

PAT: The Department of Health and Human Services on November 15th. This is posted immediately after President Trump has been reelected.

They advertised for the following position. A deputy assistant secretary for Minority Health. With a salary of up to 221 thousand dollars. This is the goal of this position.

Or this is the purpose of this position.

To, quote, promote health equity.

To promote health equity.

What does that mean?

It means racial criminalization in health care.

It means, if you are seeking, I don't know.

Think about during the pandemic. When there was limited resources. Limited beds in the emergency room.

Limited amounts of drugs and therapeutics, that people could access, in order to treat COVID when it's at its worse.

Well, now you will be screened based on the color of your skin.

That's what health equity is. Health equity is a word used to disguise the reality, that it's just -- it's socialism.

It's discrimination.

It requires, a government official to look at you, and make a decision about whether or not you are going to have access to health care that you might need, based on what you look like.

Not based on the severity of your illness. Not based on your ability to pay. Not based on your request for care. But based on the color of your skin. That's not only wrong and immoral and completely absurd, that a bureaucratic in that position would make over $221,000. That's evil. The left likes to pretend, that you're a racist. Or I'm a racist. Just for voting for Donald Trump. This is evil racism. This is the kind of stuff that we eradicated from our country.

And Biden is trying to plant the Trump administration. With these evil little minions before he leaves.

GLENN: I mean, why are we -- why are we surprised?

How many anti-slavery amendments do we have, to the Constitution.

I mean, it's amazing to me. With very few exception, after ten, most of these seem to be like, oh.

Yeah. Okay.

You're so stupid, you don't understand.

Slaves need to be free. Okay.

Then the next amendment is like, okay. All right.

Let me limp up to explain this once more.

That means, they're Americans, and can vote!

How many amendments are -- are just one after another, especially on slavery.

And, by the way, who was it that didn't understand that slaves should be freed? The Democratic Party.

It -- I swear to you, these amendments are just, God, we didn't think you would be this stupid.

It's already covered!

But let's lay it out clearly, for you.

You cannot discriminate by color! By race! By religion.

We thought that had already been covered, but apparently, not.

LIZ: What I would do if I were the Trump transition team. This is obviously a deliberate effort by the Biden administration. Because within the first ten days after the election, 33 of these jobs were posted on government websites.

So this was -- they were like, okay. Trump is coming in. Let's start ceding the deep state with these races. What I would do if I were Trump transition is I would say, we take racial equality, very seriously. We take civil rights very seriously.

In the administration, of the 47th president of the United States, and anybody who engages, especially a government official who engages in racial discrimination will be prosecuted. And prevent these people from even accepting these jobs. Because they will be threatened with legal action if they do.

GLENN: You can make a legal case. A solid, legal case, that that is exactly right. And that's what should be done.

They would be doing that to us, if we were -- if we were discriminating on race. If we were like, you know what, we're only going to hire white people.

We would go to jail.

Oh, you know what. We're just going to shuffle the deck here.

We're going to look at everybody.

But we lean towards white people.

Did you have Wheaties for breakfast?

If you had Wheaties as a childhood, you're in a different category. Okay?

I mean, we would go to jail. We would be shut down.

It's the same thing.

But don't expect the Democrats to get it.

Did you see the new -- or the DNC chair front runner?

The one they're thinking should be the head of the DNC?

He said, the problem with the election is, the convention should have featured pro-Hamas activists.

LIZ: I totally agree. That absolutely should have --
GLENN: At least they would have been honest.
LIZ: Think about how many Democrat voters, and really prominent people too.

I'm talking about Joe Rogan. I'm talking about Elon Musk. I'm talking about RFK Jr. These were fairly hard-core Democrats, who not only converted to being like, okay. We'll tolerate a Republican. Because it's not Joe Biden.

It's not Kamala Harris.

These people are the biggest supporters of President Trump right now, because of that kind of garbage. So DNC, if you are going to be radical, please be honest and tell us.

Thank you. It's just ushering new Republican voters right into our arms.

GLENN: I respect you, more than I respect people like Mike Johnson.

Mike Johnson doesn't tell me what -- he doesn't tell me what he really is.

What he really believes.

He tells me what I want to hear. I don't believe it. Then he's elected. Then he gets in.

And then he rapes you.

You know, I have much more respect for -- for people who are like, yeah. I'm pro-Hamas.

And you should elect me.

Well, I don't think I'm going to do it.

But thank you for telling me who you really are.

LIZ: Yeah. Great. Let's take all of the Democrat members of Congress. And let's Jamaal Bowman them, let's Cori Bush them.

Because as soon as they were honest about being pro-Hamas, voters were like, actually, we're good.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

By the way, Hochul has come out. And she has now tried to stir up support to end the electoral college.

Because no offense, Wyoming, according to her words, New York voted for Kamala Harris.

You know, it is so dishonest. And this would -- this would have no space, if -- if we were actually teaching you students, what the electoral college is for.

You want to talk about fairness. Here's fairness: Should New York City dictate what all of New York does?

No!

They have representation. Of all the small towns.

All the farming towns.

Everything else.

New York City, should not be the one that tells everyone else, exactly how to live!

I think there should be electoral colleges in states now.

Because the cities are just devouring, all of the communities outside of those mega cities.

The electoral college is to make sure, that New York, California, and let me say, Texas, doesn't run over all of the other states!

And force how they're living in those cities, and those big states. In Wyoming!

Or Idaho!

Or Alabama!

Yeah. I don't have to live like you do in New York City.

I don't want to live like you do in New York City.

And we have completely different values than you do.

We should have a say, and an even, equal seat at the table.

That's why we have the electoral college. And we have the popular vote.

So you can see. And it's usually pretty close.

This time, however, Hochul, you lost the popular vote!

So you don't really have a case here, on the electoral college.

But you don't have a case.

If you're an American, you don't have a case on the electoral college anyway.

LIZ: Wait a second. Have we war gamed the scenario that you just proposed.

If there was an electoral college on the state level in California or on the state level in New York, what would the -- have we actually looked at a map here. If anybody has done this. Tag me on social media.

Because I am fascinated by this idea. I've not thought of this before. But I -- would we actually swing those states Republicans, if there was a state level?

STU: I bet we would. I bet we would.

You know, every time. Look at Wyoming.

Jackson Hole now controls Wyoming. Just controls it.

Who is -- who is so close to controlling Texas?

All the big cities.

You know, you don't have a chance. When these cities grow so large, they tip everything.

That's why we have an electoral college.

And it didn't used to be this way.

But our cities are becoming mega cities.

Almost states in and among themselves.

You -- you have to balance. Otherwise, the farmer and everybody else, that makes your life possible, in a city, gets screwed.

GLENN: And also think about cheating for a second. If you have a popular vote across the whole country, versus an electoral college system, it's a lot easier to impact the outcome of the entire presidential election because you can have one county somewhere with corrupt election officials.

And if they cheat by 10,000 votes, that could change the outcome of the election.

But if you're an electoral college, it doesn't necessarily.