Donald Trump recently said that he doesn’t believe a 6-week limit on abortions is long enough and that the government should offer free IVF treatments. BlazeTV host Allie Beth Stuckey joins Glenn for an honest conversation about this moment that upset many of Trump’s pro-life supporters. They discuss why they believe this shouldn’t keep people from voting for Trump: “The difference between Trump and Kamala Harris is we actually have the opportunity to [grow the pro-life movement] if Donald Trump is president…Harris is openly hostile and vindictive toward pro-lifers…we’re looking at the chilling of pro-life speech…the doubling down of weaponization of the DOJ against pro-life grandmothers [under a President Harris].” Allie also gives her advice for how Trump should handle this issue for the rest of the election.
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GLENN: Well, there's a couple of things that Donald Trump did yesterday, to make news. And I think it's worth taking time to address.
Cut six. Here's Donald Trump on a six-week Florida ban.
VOICE: Overturn Roe. And you want abortion to be a state's rights issue. In Florida, a state you are a resident of. There's abortion-related amendment on the ballot to overturn the six-week ban in Florida. How are you going to vote on that?
DONALD: Well, I think the six-week is too short. There has to be more time, and I told them that I want more weeks.
VOICE: So you'll vote in favor of the amendment?
DONALD: I am voting. I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. Look, just so you understand, everybody wanted Roe v. Wade terminated for years. Fifty-two years. I got it done. They wanted it to go back to the states. Exceptions are very important for me, for Ronald Reagan, for others that have navigated this very, very interesting and difficult path.
GLENN: Okay. So why is he doing that know. Everybody thought he was going to be the pro-life president. I never did. I was shocked that Roe vs. Wade was actually overturned. And let's be honest about it. He didn't do that. He appointed the justices that did that.
But I don't think that that was his main thing when he was picking justices on who is going to be pro-life. And then they got the right, you know, verdict, right case, came in. And they gave the right verdict.
But he has always been somebody who is wanting exceptions.
I don't agree with him.
But that's what the vote is all about
Now, I just want to say. Now, I believe. If this is your critical issue, I would ask that you go out, and campaign. And vote in your state.
On the abortion bills.
You're voting for president of the United States.
This is a state issue. He's not going to pass anything, that is a federal law. I just don't see that happening. Maybe he will.
But I will tell you this, if you want to stand for life, if you have Kamala Harris, I believe you will go to jail. I believe, if you speak out, online, it is going to become very Draconian. She is the most shout your abortion president, presidential candidate, we have ever, ever had.
Allie Beth Stucky is with us now to comment on this happen. Allie. Allie, are you there?
ALLIE: Hi, Glenn.
GLENN: Hi. I know we caught you on vacation. I know you're out fishing, which I love. Thanks for hopping on.
ALLIE: Yes. Yes. Thank you so much.
And I agree with everything that you said. Every bit of it. Both Kamala Harris. And Trump's statement.
You know, this is politically miscalculated for Trump. Because the amendment, is probably thankfully going to fail in Florida. And the Trump campaign is coming out now and saying, you know, he must say exactly how he was going to vote.
That's the response that I'm getting on X.
But he did. You know, maybe he didn't mean it. Maybe he'll vote another way. But he did say, he is voting to extend the weeks.
Which would be voting yes on Amendment 4.
Which does allow abortion, through all nine months of pregnancy for virtually any reason in Florida. So it is politically miscalculated, as well as immoral.
GLENN: So how do you -- because I hear people. I just don't think I can vote for Trump now.
And I'm like, are you out of your mind? Do you agree with that?
ALLIE: Right. Right. No.
GLENN: Wait. You don't agree with me. You don't agree what, I mean, said or the people --
ALLIE: Oh, no. I don't agree with not voting for Donald Trump.
GLENN: Okay.
ALLIE: I still support Donald Trump for a variety of reasons. One of them, for the reason that you said. That, yeah. Donald Trump is not nearly as pro-life as I want him to be. And I want to use whatever political capital we pro-lifers have to push him in the direction of life. The difference between him and Kamala Harris is that we actually have the opportunity to do that if Donald Trump is president. Not only because it's him. But also it's because it's the people that he surrounds himself with. The judges and the justices, that he may appoint.
With Kamala Harris, we not only have no in. We have no influence whatsoever.
But as we've seen, while she was AG of California. While she was even district attorney of San Francisco.
While she was the furthest left senator, when she was in the Senate.
Is that she's openly hostile and vindictive, towards pro-lifers.
Anyone can ask to be the delight, and what that's been like. And so we're looking at the threatening of the 501(c)3 status for every pro-life organization.
We are looking at the chilling of pro had much life speech. We are looking at the continuation of. And the doubling down of weaponizing the DOJ, against pro-life grandmothers. Who is simply sharing the gospel in front of murder mills. So that's Kamala Harris.
Do I wish that Donald Trump were more pro-life and was doing more and was making better decisions?
I wish he would stop talking about it. If he's not going to come out strong on the side of life.
I wish she would not get into the weak conversation. And just say, I will make America the best place on earth for moms and babies. End of story.
He could pivot. That's kind of PR 101.
He should just be doing that. And so I have much more hope, that the Donald Trump presidency, will be much friendlier to the pro-life cause.
GLENN: Oh.
ALLIE: Than Kamala Harris.
GLENN: Yeah. I agree with you. Last question, he came out for IVF. I think you're against IVF.
ALLIE: Well, IVF results in the destruction of millions of embryos every year. I am absolutely for people becoming parents.
I do want more babies. I think that's great, but we have to acknowledge that America is the Wild West of reproductive technology.
There are virtually no restrictions or regulations around the creation of embryos. Those are little image bearers of God.
Life starts at fertilization. They have their own DNA. And I do not want to subsidize IVF. I understand that a lot of the country is not where I am. I don't expect Donald Trump to be where I am on IVF.
But when you start saying that you are going to take the tax dollars of millions of Christians, millions of Catholics, who are against the destruction of those embryos through IVF, and you're going to fund that, that becomes a problem. Again, I just would like him to stop talking about it.
GLENN: Okay. Deal breaker for you?
ALLIE: Is this a deal breaker for me? No. It's not a deal breaker for me. As you, I'm sure will agree, we have so many issues economically, with foreign policy, domestic policy, immigration.
I don't think Donald Trump and the policy that he represents, represents order. And I think Kamala Harris and the policy she represents, represents disorder and chaos.
And I can't do that to my children and my children's children. I've got to try to preserve the good that can be preserved and fought for. And I think it's much more likely to be preserved and fought for in the Donald Trump presidency.
GLENN: Ali, I have to first say to you. I'm so proud of it.
And I'm so happy for your success.
You have become a -- a force to reckon with.
And I just love that.
Because I know you.
It's you. You're being you.
And it's not some show. And that's what makes people a success. You're doing an event in Dallas, September 28th. And I love this. Share the arrows. What exactly is this event?
ALLIE: Yeah. So this is an event for Christian women.
And we are expecting, hopefully about 5,000 Christian women to be there in Dallas, Texas.
It's at a large church there. We have several Christian speakers, apologists, theologians, moms, who are talking about how to contend with this crazy chaotic culture that we live in, through Biblical truth, and through Biblical courage.
We also have another huge speaker. A woman we have not announced yet, who hopefully will be announced soon.
We have worship led by Francesca Battistelli. A woman can come by herself. She can come with her friends. She can come with her female family members. There's going to be lots and lots of like-minded women, and in this very crazy, turbulent election season, he we just need to be able to look around, link arms.
And say, you know what, whatever arrows the enemy will throw at you. They can send them my way too. When we have that kind of solidarity, and courage. We can make a difference.
GLENN: You can see Allie's show on BlazeTV.com/Allie. Also, find out all about Share the Arrows at sharethearrows.com.
She sold thousands of tickets. It's going to be one of those events that we used to hold, where, you know, people came together. And you just make lifelong friends. I think that's kind of the feeling that this is going to give to you as well.
Sharethearrows.com. Allie, thank you so much. God bless. You bet. Go catch some fish.