RADIOJune 10, 2024

Alex Jones & Glenn Beck WARN: Trump is the Next Lawfare Target

In a surprise move, Alex Jones has agreed to liquidate his ownership of Infowars. He joins as a guest on the Glenn Beck Program for the first time to explain why: Just a few days ago, according to Alex, the chief restructuring officer overseeing Infowars after his $1.5 billion Sandy Hook case “got so desperate” that he tried to go around the court and seize Infowars. But this is just the latest stage in a massive series of lawfare attacks against him, Glenn and Alex believe, which also included an attempt to get Alex to “sell out” and let a board control Infowars. So, why are they trying to destroy him? Glenn argues that Alex was the guinea pig for the Left’s lawfare machine that it’s now turning against former president Donald Trump...and then, against the American people. So, what’s next for Infowars? Why did they try to silence him NOW? And is the Left now beta-testing a new kind of attack that’s “outside the law?”

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GLENN: This weekend, I read that Alex Jones is having to divest himself of Infowars, released his share in it.

I don't know what that exactly means. He also said that the feds were going to seize it, if he didn't do something.

I read that yesterday.

We wanted to have Alex Jones on.

We have a podcast planned in September. So I want to kind of keep this narrow here, on what's going on, with him. Because I think this is -- I think this is -- he was the guy, the left tried law fare out on.

You know, the -- the early days of boycott, Sharyl Attkisson said, that trying to get somebody off a network and mainstream media. They tried to perfect that on me.

I was their -- their first real to guinea pig.

I think Alex Jones was the first guinea pig in lawfare. And it's exactly the same thing that's happening to Donald Trump now.

This is -- this is the way they're going to fight in the future.

And if anybody thinks.

You know, whatever you think of Alex Jones. What he said. He's apologized for.

And he said, he shouldn't do it. Their damages. I don't know.

But certainly, not 1.5 billion. What is Dr. Evil.

Was he in the jury box.

What the hell was that?

$1.5 billion. We talk to Alex Jones.

So, Alex. What -- what is going to happen now?

Because I read you are going to sale your assets. But if you sell. There's nothing left.

And, you know, who is going to -- honestly, Infowars without you, is nothing.

You are the asset of Infowars. So what -- what do you have -- are they forcing you to sell all of this stuff?

ALEX: Yes. And thanks for letting me give you the backstory so it makes sense.

So I told you exactly what is happening. Okay. I'm an LLC sole proprietorship. And so I own 100 percent of the shares of the company. That's why under law, the CRO cannot just shut this place down.

That's illegal. And so that's what my lawyers have told them. So I agree to pay 55 million over ten years. Which is protected. What extra revenue there would be. They said, no.

We want a board. We want to control what he says.

This is in meetings he had. But I couldn't talk about it, until outside of me, they now told my lawyers, a few weeks ago.

Right to their faces. My lawyers said, you can talk about it now. We can't believe it. They want you to start by talking about the Second Amendment.

They wanted me to he sell out.

So they told lawyers. They told Reuters, the most accurate story out there.

Some of it is wrong. It's still pretty much true.

The headline is: Sandy Hook families agree to Alex Jones' bankruptcy liquidation. Well, they had already filed for that.

And then in the article, they say, while liquidation will yield only a fraction of the money he owes the families. They have objected to his proposal, because it would have kept him in control of both Infowars and his wealth for years.

While also tapping the total amount to be paid towards the defamation claim. So they refused. And it goes on, that they wanted to have a board control this place. That they appointed, where I would work with them.

And, of course, if I would play ball. Then, of course, I can make money.

So my operation has been taken over. For whatever reason, they decided to try to shut it down eight days ago, outside of court. Which is totally insane. Because they feel like, well, this guy is a target. And we can do what we want.

And now they're so panicked to get me off the air, for whatever is coming for the rest of the country. So that's what's happening. So what's going to go down is, the judge will either give it back to me on Friday.

And it will just come to the state and shut it down, in a week or quicker. Because Austin is as bad as New York or DC. One of the worst in the country. I'm going to move out of here. Even though my family is from here.

GLENN: Austin is awful.

ALEX: It is. It is. It's all woke. Soros controls the DA on record --

GLENN: Yeah, it's awful.

ALEX: It's totally controlled.

So Infowars will --

GLENN: So hold on. Hold on just a second. I'm sorry to do this to you, Alex. I have to take another network break. Back with Alex Jones to see where he's headed they can say. What his options are.

And where the country is headed. Because of all of this.

Make no mistake. What they did to Trump, they first tried on Alex Jones.

And they will do anything to silence anyone that has impact.

For the first time, I've asked Alex Jones to come on the program.

I know Stu heard inklings of this last week, and did probably about 20 minutes of tremendous defense of -- of you, Alex. On this whole case.

Being just nothing, but -- just a show trial. That's all it is.

What they did to Donald Trump. They first tried out on you. And they're still going for it.

So I don't understand how a judge could suggest that we violate your First Amendment right, by forcing you to not talk about the Second Amendment. I don't know how that's even possible.

But is this something that they suggested, will stop demanding the billion dollars, billion and a half dollars, if you let us control what you say and don't say?

ALEX: Yes. Before I got sued, now six years ago, I was in DC for meetings. And I had meetings with some of the Bilderberg members. Some major billionaires. I'm sure you got reached out to by as well, when you were exposing Soros and trailblazing on Fox, before they targeted you. And they literally would beat around the bush. And say, well, this major billionaire, richest man at the world around the time, he wants to give you $50 million a year for a free speech foundation. And you can still do your show, if you just talk to us about, you know, cleaning up what you do. And so it was all thinly veiled payoffs.

And then when I wouldn't do it, that's when they cooked all this up. And the project veritas spin-off group. FBI. CIA agents all admitted, bragging how they engineered all this.

And then, again, even in the Sandy Hook show trial case, they got the FBI agent up, won $95 million from me. I never said his name. Didn't knew who he was, until he sued me.

And he said, the reason he was suing, was one person called him office, that was real one time. But he admitted that he basically helped organize, organize all of this. So as we said before on the break. This is all about targeting the American people.

But even in Connecticut and Texas. This is all on TV. This is all on the record.

The lawyers for the case, this all worked for high-powered Democratic law firms. The same ones suing you on Musk right now.

They went on TV at press conferences when they won. Because the judge already said they won.

But definitely on our show trial.

Never sent Alex Jones money. Don't buy his products. We don't want money. We want to shut him down.

And so they make good on this. The judge is appointed by Trump.

He's just following the law. They won't settle.

So they have this judgment.

And so he said, he was just kicking back in the state court.

Which they'll just instantly grab on operations. Or they have to settle. And they just admitted in the newspapers, they don't want money.

He's a bad person. We want him off-air. They're so arrogant. Just like what we see with AOC, and a bunch of other Democrats last month. Say, we have to keep Trump in court, so he can't campaign.

And said, it's an ankle bracelet. So they're so pained. But also a mix of hubris at the same time. They're admitting what they're doing.

That's what -- what -- is so crazy.

STU: But, Alex, they can't -- I mean, maybe they can.

They can't hold a judgment, that you have no way to ever pay. Nobody -- no individual -- you know, unless you're Bill Gates.

Is paying $1.5 billion in a judgment.

Especially this one.

And I contend. No matter what, Bill Gates could have been on pedophile island, on TV. Doing whatever he was doing.

And he still wouldn't have to pay 1.5 billion, for that.

And I'm obviously not saying he was doing anything on pedophile island.

I'm just making that as an example.

Anyway, so they can't keep -- they can't force you to not make any money at what you do for a living. Can they? For the rest of your life?

JULIO: No, you're totally right. They're showing they don't want money.

But let me just explain this quickly. One week after they won the fake show trial, where the judge already said I was guilty. She issued an order, to seize all my assets. Even stuff under the Texas Constitution on my house. That was protected. And immediately ordered me to, quote, bring all my property and my keys to Connecticut or face imprisonment. That's why I had to file bankruptcy, hoping the federal courts would be better. So the last two years, I've been battling there. Then they got so desperate eight, nine days ago. Two Fridays ago, to literally have the federally appointed COO close the and building kick me out. So that's the level of this.

And that's why I go back to this, Glenn. This is totally desperate. You're absolutely right. They beta tested getting people off networks with you. They bragged about it.

They made a test against the law fare against me for Trump. Now they're beta testing, just grabbing stuff outside of law. That's -- this is just -- it's probably said a thousand times.

They're not trying to get me. They're trying to get through me, to get to you.

And that's why -- I'm a canary in the coal mine. They take me in the big audience. I'm also flamboyant. I've been on here thirty years, and you can dredge up some stuff and make me look nuts.

Because I have said I wasn't joking around or whatever, being a jerk. That I'm a different guy.

That's taught me a lot. Before this, I was already cleaning up my act. But now, I'm like a totally different gray-haired attitude, who just tries to do a professional show.

And these people are so wild-eyed they don't care. So I appreciate you standing up for the first Amendment. I don't know where I'll be. I haven't entertained other jobs.

I've tried to save this. I feel like I have a family member that's on death's bed. People can find me @RealAlexJones on X.

And, you know, they've said they will hunt me down, and try to shut me down. No matter where I go.

But the law is very clear in Texas, and federally.

I will be able to work for somebody in the future. Glenn, with this billion and a half dollar fake judgment, I won't be able to ever own the company, which is fine with me.

But here's the larger issue. We still have appeals at the state of Texas and Connecticut. And even part of the judge's ruling, taking the law license of my lawyer, who did a good job, as a criminal lawyer. The Supreme Court of appeals, overturned, her -- her suspension of his law license.

So people are starting to wake up. Mark Twain said a lie goes halfway around the world, before the truth puts its pants on.

But once the truth puts its pants on, it tends to win, and catch up. So people are getting this danger now. And if we can just get Trump in, if we can just not let them stage a race war and all this stuff, that they're trying to cook up.

And conservatives. You just pray, and be focused and be vocal. And just move forward and stay non-violent in the face of a mostly peaceful summer. That we know is coming. We're going to take this country back if we have to.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. It's already happening in Europe.

Alex, one thing. I want you to look -- have your lawyer look into a case. Disney against digital -- not Digital Angel. It was. It became Angel Studios. What was that thing called Stu?

STU: VidAngel.

GLENN: Look for a court case against VidAngel and Disney. They said that they were going after VidAngel over copyright, but they weren't.

They were going after them. It was a personal vendetta. A lot like this. Disney was going to put these people out of business, forever.

And the court appointed a restructuring. Because Disney won.

And the guy who came in said, one of you is lying.

Either Disney is lying. And they just want to put you out of business. And they just want total control.

Or you're lying. But when I find out which one it is. I'm going back to the judge.

And the judge ruled against Disney, and changed everything. Okay?

You -- you could prove.

Just look at that case.

Because I think if you have somebody who is intent as you're restructuring. Their job is to not put you out of business.

Their job is to restructure and get their clients, or their people they're supposed to be working for, money.

If this -- if their intent is to shut you up. I bet you, the Disney versus VidAngel court case, may help you.

ALEX: That's why I love listening to your show. And that's why I love being here. Because, Glenn, I would have never thought of that. One of my lawyers did -- did basically file something a year and a half ago to the judge.

Saying, look, here's the video. Here's the links where they say they don't want money. They're here to shut him down.

And then the judge said, I'll hear that later. But I think it's time to add Disney versus VidAngel with that. We have them saying. We have like 20 minutes of them saying in the courthouse, in front of a huge --

GLENN: They can't do that.

ALEX: Saying, this is not about money. We want him off the air. Boom. There you go. That's genius. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you, Alex. And we will sit down for a longer conversation. When I get back to Texas in September. So I appreciate it.

Thank you so much. God bless.

ALEX: Thank you so much, Glenn. God bless you.

GLENN: By the way, I would -- look, I stood for Bill Maher, when he was fired in ABC, and what I said at the time was, what part of politically incorrect ABC do you not understand?

They fired him because he said something politically incorrect. I took a lot of heat.

It was new in my career, and people didn't trust me as a conservative then.

And I started sticking up for Bill Maher.

And I took a lot of heat. But it was right, because it was about the First Amendment.

I did the same thing for Roseanne Barr. I did the same thing for, what was his name? James Gunn. The guy who was the writer/director of Guardians of the Galaxy. You cannot only stand up for the people you agree with.

You must stand up for those people you disagree with.

Otherwise, the First Amendment, second. All of the amendments, mean nothing.

I -- I don't care what you think of Alex Jones. And I say this to every conservative outlet.

You should stand by the case of Alex Jones.

To make sure this injustice. Because this is law fare. And if you think they won't do it to you.

You are sadly mistaken. And unless, each one of us, at each of our own locations, stand up, and say, this is an injustice!

This is wrong. They'll put each one of us out of business. And silence us.

And it will happen faster than you can imagine.

I challenge every podcaster. Every radio broadcaster.

To stand up and defend the right for a man to be able to speak.

France Goes Full Lawfare, JAILS Right Wing Leader Marine Le Pen

A French judge has just sentenced right wing leader Marine Le Pen to jail for 4 years and barred her from running for president in 2027. How convenient, since she has been leading in the polls. Glenn takes a look at the case, in which she was found guilty of embezzling EU funds, and compares it to the Biden administration’s prosecution of Donald Trump during the 2024 election. Maybe the French should have learned a lesson from America: people don't like it when you try and take their choice away.

Transcript

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GLENN: This story just caught my eye. This morning, just breaking that the French far right leader, Marine Le Pen has been barred for running for president in 2027 after a court found her guilty of a vast system of embezzlement of European parliament funds, banned her for running for public office with immediate effect.

Now, that seems pretty convenient, doesn't it? Really convenient.

STU: Really convenient. Luckily, all the people that were going to be running against her, where she was the actual favorite, they now don't have to worry about that because of her crimes!

GLENN: Yeah. But it had nothing to do with that. It was all crimes. It was all crimes.

STU: No, it's just incredibly convenient for them. You would think, it's really hard to win against a particular -- it's like, I don't know if you know this, the Super Bowl champions. Philadelphia Eagles. They ran the Super Bowl this past year.

And now they're trying to ban the play, that they do better than every other year.

It's kind of like that! It's kind of like, hey. What if we stop them from doing something they're doing at? What if we stop the candidates that are running against, and accuse them of crimes. Then throw them out. So we don't have to run against them.

GLENN: Now, wait a minute, to be fair. With France, Nicolas Sarkozy was convicted in 2021 of corruption and influence peddling. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. He could still run, however.

STU: He can. He's not a threat though at all to win again.

GLENN: No. No, no, no. The former Prime Minister in 2017, presidential candidate was convicted in 2020.

This is Francois Feldman, he was convicted in 2020 of embezzlement and creating fake jobs for his wife.

STU: Did he get banned from --

GLENN: Well, he was five years. Three years suspended. But yeah. He could still run.

He could still run. He could still run. But not Le Pen. She somehow or another is different.

You know, this is serious crimes. Even though, the other two were serious crimes as well.
But she can't -- she can't run.

So we've got that. Well, it seems to be happening a lot in Europe.

Where they just seem to be finding these crimes. Or they just have found some elections. They're like, you know what, we just don't think that's right. We don't think that's what the people really meant to do.

Let's overthrow that election!

You know, Stu. You know, I'm not a historian, but I am a thinker.

And it doesn't seem like these things ever work out well. Yeah.

I mean, I don't have to go back to Nazi Germany. Which I could. Where they threw Adolf Hitler into the clinic.

Which made him a hero. I mean, I could go there, but I don't have to.

Did anybody notice the election of Donald Trump?

STU: Hmm. When did that happen?

Is that recent?

GLENN: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

But I think there was some funny business there. Where they were trying to throw him in jail and trying --

STU: You know why that doesn't work?

I honestly believe this.

Is because the people get pissed off that you're trying to make the decision for them. It has nothing to do with whether the person who got thrown in jail or threatened to be thrown in jail is a good he person.

I don't know if Marine Le Pen is a good person or whether she should be president of France. No rooting interest. I heard her Dad was pretty bad. But I don't know. Who knows.

GLENN: Not French. Don't really care.

STU: Not French. Don't really care, and not following all that closely.

But the French people get annoyed by that, I think.

At least I know the American people do.

GLENN: I think all people do.

STU: I think so too.

GLENN: The number one I put on the list on don't do this too.

Germans. I don't know why I think that. You know, let's not have them, you know, recently. What you know they're doing now?

They've decided, you know what, we need to build an army. Okay.

I mean, let's not piss the people off, while they're building an army. What do you say? What do you say?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: It will be a bad thing.

STU: It will be a double-edged sword on building the army thing.

GLENN: What happens is you're exactly right. It galvanizes people. Because they no longer trust the system. They're like, what the hell? Why are you taking my choice away?

STU: Yeah, don't take it away. Let me make the choice. I think the American people, certainly, and I think the French people probably say. I can look at these allegations.

I can look at what's going on here. And make the decision myself.

People, by the way, did that. With all the allegations against Donald Trump. And they said, you know what, I don't see anything here. Right?

They were just like, no. I don't think this is going to happen. We're going to make this instigation. We talked about it all the time.

The largest jury in the world was just around the corner. There was no reason to try to throw them prison. Let the American people decide whether what they think, whatever he did with Stormy Daniels was big enough for him not to be president. They made a decision.

GLENN: No, no, no. We know better. Well, we don't know better. The judges know better.

The judges always know better. You know, they did this Erewhon. Does anybody remember?

Aren't they like a spooky state now, with Erewhon? Isn't he somebody that we should keep our eye on?

What happened? I think he either recited a poem, or published a poem deemed to be anti-secular. That's against the Constitution. So he was imprisoned. And what happened?

Because he was anti-secular in a largely Muslim country, everybody was like, he's my man.

The ban was lifted on him. And he became, you know, the Prime Minister again. And look at what happened.

Look at turkey now. Friendly nation. I don't think so.

Good news, it's in NATO. So something happens with them. We need to send our boys to protect them.

That's -- good news.

This is not going to work out well.

I mean, they just keep -- they just keep poking and poking and poking the bear.

Have you seen. Did you see what happened in Sweden this weekend. With all of the protests.

All of the things going on. It's becoming an Islamic state.

The whole place is becoming an Islamic state.

Look at what happened in England alone.

They're what, ten years away? Just from birthrates. Ten years away of being the -- the major population? Twenty years.

And that's if everybody stays cool. And wait a minute. How come you're throwing all of the people standing up going, hey. I don't have a problem with Islam.

I do have a problem with -- you know, they're banning -- not machetes. The -- the Japanese knives. Sword. Yeah. Samurai sword.

Why?

People are being beheaded. Why?

I don't know. I mean, it's just a -- it's not going to -- again, I just -- France, I know insular speak your language.

STU: You do, I have heard you.

You have done that before.

GLENN: Yeah. You wake up now, huh.

STU: That's perfect French.

GLENN: You should probably wake up. Because hmm. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Oh, by the way, there's another story out today, that is in our show prep, that is kind of reminiscent of this.

You know, the -- the judge that is -- is banning, you know, Trump from doing everything he wants to do.

STU: He was the judge that wanted the Venezuela flights to turn around midair. Mid-flight.

GLENN: Yeah. Boasberg.

Okay. I don't know. I mean, you know, he has been instrumental in a lot of things.

For instance, he was the guy who was like, you know, what do you mean?

What do you mean the FBI lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith? Falsified information to get the -- to get the FBI wiretap going for Donald Trump.

Sure, he -- yeah. Okay.

So what?

He falsified information. What's the big deal then?

So he's the guy that let him off without any prison time for falsing information without a FISA court.

Not a problem.

I mean, this is just. It's comical.

It's absolutely comical.

He also is the guy who happened to hear the case of Ray Epps. And was like, oh, well. No.

He didn't do anything wrong.

You have him on tape. Saying, you know what, you should riot. You should go in there, and storm the Capitol.

He didn't mean that! He's the guy that let Ray Epps off the hook.

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe -- maybe we should talk about impeaching.

You can't do that! Yes, you can. Yeah, that's what's in the Constitution. Why is it that Justice Roberts, and all of these politicians just don't want to use things that are actually in the Constitution?

Well, it's never been done before. Yeah. You know what, I've never used the life vest on an airplane as a flotation device.

It doesn't mean if we're in the water, we shouldn't try it. Oh, you've -- we've never done this before. This has never been done before.

Well, wait. We've never been in the ocean. Floating around, needing a flotation device. I don't know.

Maybe that's an emergency thing that you use. That's why impeachment is there for the justices, in case things go badly!

STU: And the Founders actually thought it was going to be more useful and more common.

GLENN: Yes!

STU: They didn't see it as -- that's what it's turned into with the president, unless you could be Donald Trump. Which is a weekly occurrence.

When it's supposed to be -- it wasn't always supposed to be only this gigantic thing that happened every 15 years. It's something that was utilized a little bit more than it was.

GLENN: They thought people would be like, I don't know, that one was really bad, maybe we should get rid of that guy. Instead, we were passive.

We were, no. That's not so bad.

And in some ways, that's good.

In others, if you live that way, you then are in such bad trouble. By the time you pull that out, that it is an emergency crash landing.

It is the little wait, I have to blow into this little red hoes. And blow it up myself. Okay. This doesn't sound like it will keep me up above water.

But okay.

That's what those things are there for.

And I don't know, I think we should start. This guy, Boasberg.

Ray Epps.

All I need to say.

Ray Epps. Let me show you the video.

Here he is. Hey, everybody. You should go into the Capitol.

Get him. And nothing?

Because of that judge?

Hmm. Hmm. I can't wait until he has to hear a case on somebody with a burning up of a Tesla. Or rioting in the streets. Or beating up an old lady.

I'll bet. I'll bet he has examples there up his sleeve. Where he says, that really doesn't count. That doesn't count.

But I would love to weigh in on Marine Le Pen. I say, if she ever comes here, we execute her!

Okay. Judge. Thank you.

Kirk Cameron's Alternative to Woke Children's Programming

While Disney, PBS, and other “child-friendly” networks are introducing kids to gender ideology, Kirk Cameron has decided to return to the days of “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood.” Kirk joins Glenn to discuss his new children’s show, “Iggy and Mr. Kirk”, which he believes could be “the most important project I have ever done.” The show, he says, teaches kids about God, “the sacredness of all life,” our true identity, and other important lessons.

You can watch Kirk Cameron’s new kids’ show at https://BravePlus.com

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me -- let me take you next to our next guest. Good friend of the program. Just overall great guy. Kirk Cameron is on with us. Actor, producer. He is with Brave books.

And it's now Braveplus.com, and they launched something yesterday, that he was on this program, talking about. Oh, jeez. I don't even know. Six months ago, maybe.

And he was talking about Iggy and Mr. Kirk, which is kind of a Mr. Rogers for modern day.

And it talks about the basic principles. It teaches us -- to our little kids. Self-control. Honesty.

Putting others first. Et cetera, et cetera.

All the things that Mr. Rogers did. Welcome, Kirk Cameron. How are you?

KIRK: Glenn, it's so good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for having me on. We're so excited.

GLENN: Yeah, you bet.

KIRK: Iggy has landed, and kids all over America are so excited. And I'm doing my best to honor Mr. Rogers with this new kids TV show.

GLENN: I meant to look this up, before you came on. Do you know how old Mr. Rogers was, when he started? Compared to your age now. I don't either.

KIRK: I don't.

GLENN: But he had years and years. Stu, look that up for me, will you?

He had years and years in front of kids, raising kids. And became just this beloved figure.

And I remember, I mean, he started, you know -- I don't know. I don't even know, if he was around when I was a kid. I'm sure it was when it was all black and white.

The early stuff. You know, I only found Mr. Rogers when I was older. And I'm like, wow!

This is weird. Because now, in looking back, you know, nobody was that nice.

Nobody was -- now you suspect people that are that nice. And so sweet.

But that guy was truly an amazing hero. A godly, godly man.

And really a respected guy, by everybody.

STU: He was 40 by, by the way, Glenn.

GLENN: He was forty. How are you, Kirk?

KIRK: I'm 54.

GLENN: Fifty-four. So he was 40 years old when he started this, and to step into kind of a little bit of his shoes must be a little intimidating.

KIRK: It is.

And in this show for kids, we're teaching clear moral lessons like he did. Like forgiveness. Lessons on telling the truth. Lessons on overcoming your fears. We are even diving into cultural and political issues.

We're teaching children about the dangers of socialism. And about the sanctity of life. We're even having an episode, number four, on identity.

And Mr. Rogers doesn't really need to talk about some of those things. Back in his day.

Today, we have Disney's Snow White, and we've got Nickelodeon and other shows that are introducing stuff, like nonbinary Big Bird.

And we have all sorts of crazy stuff, that kids are trying to wrestle with. So we need to address these issues in a way that is safe for kids.
That parents trust. And that also ignites those little imaginations for the good, and imparts virtue and faith. And that's what we're doing.

GLENN: We're pumping so much garbage into our system. I've heard you talk about, it's like food, but it's true!

We're pumping garbage food into us, and expecting our bodies to work.

We're putting garbage drugs into our bodies, and thinking it's going to work out well.

And garbage into our minds. And it -- it's not going to work out well, unless we turn this corner!

KIRK: Yeah. That's right.

And I'm actually really thankful for all of the -- the weird, woke, and twisted things, that have come down.

Because in a sense, it's the wake-up call we've needed.

And now parents are leaning in. They're waked up. They're speaking up.

And there's an opportunity, with so many things going on politically in the country with Trump and DOGE and all these other things.

Where all of a sudden, these governments. Top-down institutions are now going to be drained to a degree, and there's a need for parents and communities and churches to work at the grassroots level to provide better alternatives.

So I think the timing of this is perfect.

I'm so excited. It could be the most important project I've done.

And it's available everywhere. For everyone to see. Kids and grandkids.

And you want to nourish their hearts and minds. When they're in the middle of Korean time.

Just check out Iggy, Mr. Kirk. And it's on Brave+.

The app on your TV, or BravePlus.com.

GLENN: And it's not the only thing. Don't you have like strawberry Shortcake? I'm trying to look. You had a bunch of stuff. Strawberry Shortcake. Bob the Builder is on there as well. So it's all these great character-building shows?

KIRK: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's what's really cool about Brave Plus. We're not waiting for Disney to pick up the clues on and figure out this is the stuff that parents actually want and can trust.

They've created our own streaming platform. And really high standards. So if it's overstimulating, that's as bad for your kids as processed foods. If it's not underlining good morals, traditional American and godly values, it doesn't make the cut. But there are over 50 shows on there, and you can watch the first three episodes of my new show, Iggy and Mr. Kirk, for free. If you want to watch the rest, we've got a whole season complete, along with 50 other shows, like you said. Bob the Builder.

Strawberry Shortcake. Madeleine. So many great shows there. That are safe, without a second thought. And your kids are going to love them.

GLENN: So let's -- can we just go through?

Because I really want parents or grandparents that have little kids, to understand what you're doing because this is so important.

We have to rebuild education from the ground up. And entertainment. And entertainment that you can actually feel comfortable in leaving the room for five minutes.

And you're not -- your kids are going to be coming back and speaking a language that you're like, wait a minute. You're confused in your own body.

What?

So can we just go over the first couple of episodes. First one is injured bird. The lesson there is?

KIRK: Yeah. This is injured bird, this is all about the sacredness of life. All life. Including unborn life. And Iggy is -- is essentially really upset at this bird that see snuck into his treehouse. And is stealing all of his worms. He wants to go fishing, and the bird is stealing his bait.

What he doesn't know, is that this is a mama girl, who is collecting worms because the little chicks in her eggs, in the nest, are about to hatch.

And he learns, that these little lives, inside these eggs are precious. And he has to learn to take care of them.

But then the episode continues on, to value disabled life and elderly life. And so it's way whole show, about the sanctity of all life.

GLENN: What an appropriate first episode.

KIRK: Yeah.

GLENN: So good. So good.

KIRK: Yeah. Yeah. And then episode number four is dealing with identity. And in the middle of it, Mr. Kirk. That's the Mr. Rogers character, reads to Iggy, the little adorable green iguana, a book called Elephants Are Not Birds.

And this is a show about identity. Where Culture, the vulture, tries to deceive Iggy into thinking, if he were somebody else, if he was someone other than what God made him to be. He would be -- he would be liked and loved more by his family and friends.

And so we have this whole show, helping Iggy to discover, that God made him just the way he is. And that when he embraces who he is, then he can fulfill the purpose they can't be God has given him.

GLENN: Have you heard of -- have you seen any of the research on this. Or talked to any of the viewers.

And discovered something that you didn't know was going to be a benefit of this. Or something that you were surprised by. And you were like, oh, my gosh.

I'm so glad. I didn't even think of that. But I'm so glad that this is happening with the audience?

KIRK: Well, you know, more and more data is coming out, that is showing that children's brains are negatively impacted by most of the children's programming coming out.

Because at the end of the day. Just like junk food is designed to be cheap.

And addictive.

And most children's shows are the same way.

Kids are staring like zombies at the screen, because they've been designed to addict them.

Through non-diegetic sounds, that are put in a post-production. This is not part of the world they're actually looking at, with flashing lights and jump cuts every two to three seconds. It's a literal brain hack on your kids, to keep them glued to the screen. And they say, nine minutes of that has measurable negative impact on their pockets and development.

And so we're going back the opposite way. Back to Mr. Rogers. Where we take our time.

And we lean into relationships. And develop trust.

And impart virtue the old-fashioned way.

GLENN: How difficult was that, to do?

Because, you know, everybody in the media, they didn't start out, well, some of them probably did.

They didn't start with nefarious purposes.

They were just like, we've got to get these kids to watch the show.

How are we going to do it?

And now to go to the opposite and say, we don't want to use any of those tricks.

That had to be a little scary.

KIRK: Yeah. It was.

But Glenn, you're a guy who says, no. My bottom line is I want to do the right thing by God and by my family.

I want to love people. I want to champion what's good and true and beautiful. At the end of the day, that's why I love working with Brave books.

That's really their bottom line. They don't want to go bankrupt. They want to make money. More than that. This is an eye doctor, who dropped that business to become the CEO of a book publishing company, and now, a whole media company. Because she's got kids, and nobody else is doing it!

So that's -- that's why we're doing it the way we're doing it.

Yeah, it's scary.

But at the end of the day, I have to answer for everything that I'm a part of.

GLENN: Kirk, I am -- I'm so proud, to be your friend, and to see what you guys are doing. And what Brave is doing.

I just think there's nothing more important than -- than beginning the journey, that is going to be a very long journey and generational journey. But beginning the journey right now, to put things back in order.

It is -- it's the most important thing anybody can do.

And especially well anything on education.

And I -- I know you know this, but anything I can do. Whatever I have, is yours.

You just tell me how we can help.

Because you're doing -- you're doing God's work. And you are helping save the -- you're helping save not just the country. Civilization. You're helping save civilization, so thank you.

KIRK: Well, you're so kind. You always put wind in my sails. Anything we've built.

And you're an inspiration to so many of us.

So, Glenn, thank you very much.

God bless you. And keep up the great work.

GLENN: I want you to go to Braveplus.com. That's Braveplus.com. If you have children, grandchildren, you know somebody that is -- you know, has young children.

This is so important, and it will help your kids take all -- we have to stop with the Sesame Street stuff. We have to. We have to.

The stuff that is being taught now to our kids so early. Is absolute poison.

And it's not what we grew up with.

You can look at all these things and say, well, but I was fine.

It's a different world now.

It's a totally different world.

And these are not the Jim Henson lessons that we used to get as kids.

And I am -- I am not against progress.

I am very progressive in the right ways.

I believe in the future.

I believe in making new things, and cutting edge. And everything else.

But we cannot disregard all of the things that have worked, for centuries!

The truth works!

And Kirk is doing Yeoman's job here, along with Brave. So go to braveplus.com. You can see the first three episodes free, but share it with all your friends. BravePlus.com. BravePlus.com.

Did "Snow White" Actress Rachel Zegler DESTROY Her Chances in Hollywood?

A producer for “Snow White” recently reprimanded the film’s star, Rachel Zegler, for mixing the film’s promotion with leftist activism. Her decision to trash the original “Snow White” film and focus on politics over publicity will likely cost Disney millions of dollars. But doesn’t she have the right to speak freely? Glenn explains why this is yet another example of a narcissistic generation that believes their careers should be handed to them. It’s not about free speech when she’s being paid millions to promote Disney’s movie. Glenn also reads the fiery comments of the producer’s son, who summarized the whole situation perfectly.

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GLENN: But the problem with our society, can be found with Snow White, and what's going on with Snow White. We have too many people that don't know what it's like to actually work.

They -- they don't know what merit is. Because they get paid whether they succeed or not.

You know, they were talking about SNAP, and yesterday, we shared the information about SNAP and sugary cereals, and everything else, that shouldn't be a part of SNAP. Well, they should be able to buy whatever they want. No. Not on our dime. How is that? How is that? This really comes from Benjamin Franklin, he believes the best way to get people out of the circle of poverty is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty. Meaning, you know, you don't get what you want.

You know, you get what you need. And there's a difference between needs and wants.

And if we give people what they need, people want more than that.

Well, they'll learn that they have to change their behavior. Maybe their behavior is self-destructive.

Maybe their behavior is just pure laziness. Maybe it's a lack of education.

But we can find those solutions together, if you're not getting what you want. You're only getting what you need.

You know, it was Edward Bernays that said, you know, the problem with America is: We've got a problem of needs. We need to turn this around, to a country of wants. He, by the way, was the father of American propaganda. He's the guy whose books all taught Goebbels how to make germ my into an all-new place. He is the author of modern advertising.

We've got to just change this from a nation of needs to a nation of wants. No. We need to do the exact opposite now.

We need to make our nation, a nation of needs, again.

And that -- that one even understands needs. So the producer of Snow White, Marc Platt, the son -- sorry, the sone of the producer, Marc Platt has just gone on X, and hmm. Defended -- defended his family's name, and the father.

So one commenter wrote in his Instagram and tried to flip the switch here, and flip the narrative. Apparently, his dad had to fly to New York City, to reprimand what's-her-face? The woman who played Snow White. What's-her-face?

Rachel Ziegler. Had to reprimand. Because when they went on tour for publicity, she starts in with all of her political nonsense, and that wasn't helping Disney. It wasn't helping the movie.

You know, hey, Snow white.

Yeah. Let me tell you about Palestine and Israel. And how bad Israel is.

And how bad Trump is!

Okay. That's not going to help sell the movie. You've just divided the country in half. So you've lost half of the revenue, we could have had.

Because you pissed off half of the country.

Now, this is what exactly -- what would be said to me.

You know, I go in, and I say, hey. I would want to work at NBC.

First of all, it would never happen. Because I wouldn't want to work at NBC. But two, they would never hire me.

If it was a serious consideration.

You know why they wouldn't hire me?

If everyone was being honest.

The same reason why they wouldn't hire anybody from the View. Or Rosie O'Donnell.

Because I'm a polarizing figure. Because I speak about politics.

So I lose half the audience.

When you're in mass media. When you're making movies.

You don't want to lose half the audience.

You want to get everybody into a seat.

You're there not only to make a beautiful, arc film.

You're also there to put butts in the seats, to make money for the company or yourself.

So he has to go across the country, and say, hey. Can you top?

Can you please stop talking about your pro-Palestinian views and anti-Trump comments and, you know, how -- how this film was just creepy in the 1930s? Can you stop? This is a beloved film.

So somebody goes on Twitter and says to Jonah Platt, son of the producer, your Dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress. Any word on this? Because that's creepy as hell. And uncalled for. People have the right to free speech, shame on your father.

Oh, my gosh. I'm not the son of the producer. And I want to respond to that. But the son of the producer did respond.

Here's what he said: You really want to do this? Yeah. My Dad, the producer of an enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand a 20-year-old employee, for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promotion for a movie.

Which she signed a multi-million-dollar contract for, to get paid and do publicity for.

This is what you call adult responsibility and accountability. And her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions.

Tens of thousands of people worked on that film, and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires, at the risk of all of the colleagues and crew, and the blue-collar workers who depends on that movie to be successful. Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged.

I don't think I could have said it better. I would have said it meaner, perhaps. I don't think I could have said that better.

This is -- this is how narcissistic -- how narcissistic our society has become.

It's all about me.

It has nothing to do with the blue-collar workers that are depending on that movie to be successful.

Has nothing to do with the thousands of people, the tens of thousands of people, that worked on that movie.

No. It's all about her!

And what she believes. And what she wants.

You know, when I first went into Fox.

I turned Fox down, probably three or four times.

Stu, how many times it they offer that job? And I kept saying no.

STU: It was several.

GLENN: Several. And Roger Ailes finally called me into the Murdoch lunchroom, and I went over to meet with him.

And he sat there with a bunch of executives. And he said, what is it about our number one status?

And the money that I'm offering you, that is much more than I think you're making now.

What is it that just doesn't interest you?

And I said, Roger, I know your business.

I know it!

You don't know anything about my business.

And until you know and care about my business.

I can't do business with you. Because I have two masters I would be serving. My business, my career, and yours. And I know your business. So I know the lines that I cannot cross. This is not my company. So if you say, Glenn, you're not to do that. I need to evaluate before I go into business with you.

Am I willing to play by your rules?

Because I can't get on to your platform, and then have you say, Glenn.

And then break those, that would harm your company.

Because I am being paid as an employee by you. Now, that doesn't mean that we will agree on everything.

But I'm not going to do harm to your company. And I need you to tell you, you're not going to do harm to my company.

So that was the beginning of the conversation of going into business with Fox.

And -- and I -- I have prided that any company that I've ever done business with. That I was a good partner.

They weren't necessarily good partners of mine. Most of them have been great partners.

But I've tried to do the right thing, in looking at their company.

Because they have hired me.

Okay. Why is that any different, than these actresses, that just believe they have free speech?

You don't have free speech without consequence.

You can say whatever you want.

But she was on the Disney dime. She's being flown to New York City. To have interviews, that were set up by Disney about Snow White. It was -- she was there, being paid to promote the Disney movie.

Not her propaganda. Not her belief. I wouldn't have the right to sit there. I would have said -- if they would have asked me, and they would have. They would have tried to goad me into something. I would say, it's not the time or place. I'm here to talk about Snow White. I'm not hear to talk about Donald Trump. I'm not here to talk about Israel or Hamas.

That's what I would have done.

And if you don't believe me, well, then you haven't listened to me long enough.

I know what my responsibility is. And if I'm going to make that deal and get into business with somebody, I know the difference of when I'm on their dime and when I'm not on their dime.

Now, I want to leave that, and hold my own press conference.

I think it's unfair to do. Because you are still promoting that movie. So if you do it, at the same time you're in promotion, you're going to sabotage your partner Disney. And that's not right. But if I felt strongly about it. I would get off of the tour, after I finished the tour, and I would say something then, in my own space and my own time.

And I would make it clear. This has nothing to do with Disney.

It has nothing to do with the movie. The movie is completely separate.

Now, if somebody wants to make it about the movie. That's fine. That's their thing.

But I'm not on the company dime.

That's how freedom of speech works. You have freedom of speech. But if you're being -- if you're on somebody else's dime, you have the responsibility to respect their wishes and respect what they're asking you to do.

What you do in your own home. Fine.

However, Disney would have the right, and they wouldn't have, because they agree with her on everything.

Oh, men are just disgusting. Especially white men.

They're all there with you.

So they will not let you go!

They let Roseanne go.

Sure. But not her!

Even though, this is a massive flop, they didn't let her go. They just had the producer fly out and say, can you shut the pie hole for a minute?

You're killing us. You're killing the movie.

You're killing everybody who worked on this movie.

You're killing Disney. What you are doing?

If this woman gets another acting job in a movie?

It will tell you everything you need to know about Hollywood.

There's no way this woman should be hired for anything ever again.

One of the bigger box office bombs, the reason why it was a bomb.

Is because she was just completely irresponsible.

Now, how do we teach our children this responsibility?

We teach our children this responsibility, by not allowing them to become narcissistic.

You know what, sweetheart. Life isn't fair.

And it's not always about you. Once we start looking and gazing at our own image on social media all the time. And we begin to believe that we're the most important thing ever, the whole thing goes to the crapper!

We have to put narcissism back into the ugly place, that it has always been. And understand that we are a narcissistic society.

And that needs to change.

Why the Founders Would CRINGE at the SNAP Soda Debate

There’s a big debate brewing: Should people be allowed to buy sugary snacks, like soda, using SNAP benefits? Glenn and Stu look at how our founders, like Benjamin Franklin, looked at poverty and social welfare. Is it a problem that the number one item purchased with SNAP benefits is soda? Should our tax dollars only help the poor buy the basics, like meat and bread?

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GLENN: I don't know. I mean, I don't want to turn anybody into Jeff Bezos.

But you might want to back off the sugar if you're on Snap. Oh, that's the word we're getting. No sugary treats, if you're on Snap.

And, you know, I'm torn.

If you are somebody who have got kids and you are struggling, you're not living off of the government. You're struggling.

I mean, it would be nice to have something. You know, an Oreo, to be able to have for dessert, or something.

But the argument is, and I agree with it, this is not good for you. We're going to cause more problems, if we're giving these really high sugary, high fructose corn syrup stuff to the people who can't necessarily afford the medical care and the medical treatment, and take care of yourself.

That's adding. That's just adding stupidity on stupidity.

But Stu and I are big fans of Benjamin Franklin. And how he looked at poverty.

STU: Yeah. Here it is.

I am for doing good for the poor.

But I think the best way of doing good for the poor. Is not making them easy in poverty.

But by leading or driving them out of it.

I observed, that the more public provisions were made to the poor, the less they provided for themselves. And, of course, became poorer.

On the contrary, the less that was done for them. The more they did for themselves. And became richer.

I'm a big believer in that philosophy.

GLENN: Me too. Me too. Me too.

STU: And I'm kind of like this with almost all government programs.

They should not give you some utopian life.

They should be something that you hate.

You should despise the fact that you have to stay on these rams.

And you should always desire to get off of them as soon as possible.

And this goes, when it comes to the snap benefits discussion. I don't -- it's not -- for me at least.

It's not about whether it's healthy or not.

I do -- you have a big place in my heart for your argument on -- that it's going to lead to a bunch of health expenses later on in life.

I think it's a real consideration.

It's not really that for me.

It shouldn't be things, that are like luxury items.

You shouldn't get a luxury item. Oreos, as much as I love them. And they feel like, it's part of my day-to-day necessity to live.

GLENN: Oh, it's the left hand side of my food pyramid. All the way to the top or the bottom, it's the left-hand side of that pyramid.

STU: Some would say, maybe not the best decision. But I'm with you on that. That should not mean, that the government provides those things for you. Like, I am like, I would rather go back to like government cheese.

They're delivering government cheese.

Government milk. They produce it.

It sucks! You hate it. You never want to eat it. That's what I want.

Do I want like -- if you are going to have a program like this.

The idea is to not make it a lifestyle. It might be something to get people through a really difficult situation. By the way, that is temporary.

It's supposed to be temporary.

A temporary situation, where you're struggling, and you help end meat.

But that means, you're alive! That doesn't mean, you're having the latest Mountain Dew flavor.

That's not what it -- you know the number one thing, purchased with Snap benefits is soda.

And I am the biggest soda advocate you will ever find. I constantly --

GLENN: Oh, yeah. You're 98 percent soda.

STU: I am. If anything, there was a story about conservative influencers perhaps getting payments to post in -- on behalf of big soda.

Which was really frustrating, and awful.

Because I didn't get an offer.

Like, I should be the number one --

GLENN: I know. I'm a little upset about that too.

STU: Where is my soda cash? I want it. You can pay me directly in aspartame. I'm fine with it. Deliver bags of aspartame to my front door.

GLENN: Honey, why is there a truckload of aspartame?

STU: Hold on, I need to post on X. So I -- from that perspective. Like I think there's a big hole here for considering what we do with these programs, and how we consider the relationship with the government and people who are on them.

People who are on these programs. Should desire to get off of them.

We shouldn't be. They used to have food stamps. Then they made the cards.

One of the talks. It's kind of embarrassing for these people who go and use them. Look, I'm not looking to shame people. You shouldn't have shame for going through a tough period.

But it also shouldn't be something where you're like, this is great. Hold on. Let me pay for all the food I have. So then I can use the extra money for liquor. Or I can use the extra money for an i Phone.

Or whatever else.

These should be desperation programs. The government, if it will provide these services at all.

Should be providing them to people who are desperately in need to get over a hump that is temporary. That should be the design of these programs.

GLENN: So do you know the history of that phrase, from Benjamin Franklin? Do you know what that's about?

STU: I think so. He was in Europe, right?

GLENN: He was in England. Yeah. He was traveling in England.

And somebody said, you know, you just -- you hate the poor. Because you don't. And he's like, no, no, no. I don't. I don't.

I'm watching what you're doing.

And everything that you're doing is making the situation worse for them. They're getting poorer and poorer and more reliant on you.

We found, you know, the churches should do it.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And you shouldn't just give it out. We should make people uncomfortable in their poverty, so they want to get out.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: You know, if you read Noah Gerald Harari. Anyway, that guy.

STU: Geraldo. Yes. If you read Geraldo's book, yeah.

GLENN: You read Harari's book, and he talks about, what are we going to do to this useless population?

Well, there's your first problem.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. If you're looking at people as useless. Then you do have to do something with them.

But who is making them useless?

Our school system is making them useless.

They cannot read. They can't reason.

They can't think.

They can't do mathematics.

And then on top of it. You know, the elites are controlling all of our tech.

And it's going to get worse and worse and worse.

I mean, Stu. Tell the story about homework last night with your son.

STU: Oh, yeah.

So we had baseball. By the way, Zach two for two with the triple. So we get back from the game, and it's late. And he's been -- from the moment we left school, it was baseball all the way. And it's like 9:15. 9:30. He's done with the shower. He's beat. He's -- you have to run for a triple at that speed. That will do you.

So he has the homework. And he has math homework. He's in some advanced math class. Where he's now looking at -- he's to the level now in seventh grade, where he is beyond what I can actually remember and do easily.

You know, he's like, can I help me with this.

GLENN: I remember that hit me with my kids in first grade.

STU: It's some advanced graphing formula.

And I'm like, I sort of remember seeing something like this 30 years ago.

It's beyond my level.

GLENN: Right.

STU: So when these things happen.

I've been using. Like ChatGPT.

Or Grok, or whatever. To kind of reteach it to me in a brief lesson. So I can talk him through it.

It's really helpful like that. Don't let your kids get access to it.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Right.

So what I usually do, is I'll be like, hey, help me understand this and explain it to a seventh grader. And it gives you like a little outline of, like, okay. Here's a formula. This is how this works.

Then it kind of comes back to you. It's like a language you maybe learned a long time ago.

When you get kind of a couple of words, it starts piecing back together in your mind. So it's been really helpful.

But last night, I'm tired. He's tired. It's late. And I am like, I just -- even after I did that exercise, could not really remember how to do whatever he was attempting.

And so I was like, well, let me just try to type it out. And have -- graph the thing for me. Maybe it will set me up. I do that, I type in the question he's got on his paper. It does the homework and graphs it up for me. And I'm like, wow, that's amazing. But still, I'm at the point, my brain is not working, I cannot get there.

Then I wind up taking a picture of his actual question, just a picture of it. Input it into the AI, and it reads the question. It then explains it to a seventh grader step by step. And then answers it, at the bottom.

And so I have him, I'm like, you read this.

I'm legitimately not getting this. I read this. He reads the step by step. You know, how to understand what's going on. What each thing means.

And, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is easy.

Before he gets to the answer.

GLENN: You gave him the answer?

STU: I didn't give him the answer.

It was at the bottom. So I made sure to not get to the --

GLENN: All right. You just know, it's my son. He's never going to read all the way to the end.

STU: I think what you want to do.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Glenn. Because you're the AI expert here. What I should have done is say, don't give the answer at the end.

GLENN: Well, you could have, cut it off for you. So you could have it, and check his work.

STU: That's what wound up happening.
It's fascinating. And then I started thinking, I'm super restrictive on phones.
My kid doesn't have one.

Every single thing is locked down. They can't even log into their devices, where they're coming to me and make me type in or give my fingerprint to get in. I'm obsessive about this. I've read Jonathan Haidt's book.

GLENN: That is terrifying, by the way.

STU: The Anxious Generation, read it. Hopefully before they turn of the age where you might be considering giving them a phone.

GLENN: I wish I would have read that. I wish it would have been printed before I did. Because I gave my kids a phone when they got into high school.

Because the school said, they have to have one.

STU: And that's late.

You already did a great job of -- of --

GLENN: Oh, we just.

STU: It's so hard.

GLENN: I'm sure every parent feels like this.

You just feel like a failure.

Because everything is so overwhelming.

And you never dealt with any of this stuff.

It's not like our parents -- I mean, kids hadn't changed that much.

Life hadn't changed that much from the '60s to the '80s. It's totally different now.

You just feel like a bad parent at times.

STU: We were at dinner with some of his friends after baseball.

Five kids at the table. Four of them are on phones, at the table. My son is the only one without one. I'm sure this is going to lead to all positive things in the future.

GLENN: Oh, it will. It will.

STU: I do believe it will, for him. He will have some tough times.

My point there though, is that I'm obsessive about this. I lock all that stuff down as much as I can. It's still difficult.

Most of the parents I know, are like, they're going to get it anyway.

I can't sit here and obsess about freaking screen time all day.

So, you know, they're good kids.

Look, I -- I don't know -- was I a good kid? I don't know. But I will tell you, if I had access to that, I would be taking a photo of every single one of my questions and having ChatGPT or whatever answer them.

Filling it all in.

Getting on with my life. When I went to play video games.

And we're seeing it now. There was an instructor, who teaches a college course.

Been teaching it for years and years and years.

He said, all of my students seem brilliant all of a sudden. And it's funny because none of them come for help after school and office hours. None of them ever ask any questions in class. They all get incredible grades, and until we have an in-room exam! And then they all do worse, than everybody else.

From the previous years.

And he's like, what's happening?

Is -- ChatGPT. I think it's a coding thing. Their -- ChatGPT is doing all the coding for them, or AI or Grok or Gemini. Or whatever.

And they're not learning it. They don't have any of the process. They don't know how to answer the questions.

They don't know how to think through the problems. What -- what does that lead to?

GLENN: Stu, do you remember when I had Ray Kurzweil? 2008, 2009.

And he said, that this was coming.

And I said, Ray, that's going to make us incredibly lazy.

He said, no. It will give you time to think about other things.

And I thought, okay. You don't know who humans are.

I use it that way. I know people who do use it that way.

It's enhanced what they do.

And I said, oh, my gosh.

I can create so much more.

Most people are not like that. That's the spirit of the entrepreneur that is like that.

That's the discoverer in some people.

Most people are like, I just want to get by.

I just want to get by.

And I just want to do my thing for a few hours every day, just be left alone. Those are the ones that are going to be left way behind. Because they will use it to complete their work.

And not to help them learn or think.