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Adam Curry: The Great Reset & ESG will lead us INTO DEMISE

Former MTV VJ Adam Curry can give Glenn a run for his money when it comes to knowledge of The Great Reset. Now the co-host of ‘No Agenda,’ he joins Glenn on radio to discuss recent efforts in America to both stop (and push forward) ESG — a system, he says, will only lead America ‘into demise.’ Plus, for those new to the concept, Curry breaks down ESG, how it’s being used against Putin in Russia, and why it could target YOU in the near future too...

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GLENN: Adam curry, a guy who I used to think was the coolest guy on television. And MTV VJ for years. And then is the guy really responsible for podcasting? I mean, he worked with Steve Jobs, to get podcasts on to the Apple i Pod at the very beginning. He is wicked, wicked smart.

Has been following things like ESG, and The Great Reset for a while.

We come Mr. Adam Curry. How are you?

ADAM: Hey, Glenn, good to see you. Ideas.

GLENN: Good to see you. We didn't meet until a couple weeks ago, and I can't believe that friends -- so we have to have mutual friends. Haven't put us together earlier.

Because we think so much alike.

ADAM: And I think as I've told you on your podcast. We think alike. We have the similar paths. We're also, I think more or less the same age.

After this wonderful visit I had with you, I want to be like you so much, I bought one of those microphones that you have. It sounded really good, on Glenn's Show. I need a little beard.

GLENN: Yeah. Just a little goatee.

You look a little like Colonel Sanders, and you're all set. I want to read something to you, Adam. And get your thoughts on it. We're working with 20 states on legislation. Anti-ESG legislation. And having the Treasuries divest themselves on places like BlackRock. That are clearly working on the interests of the everyday people.

So this is a statement from the Idaho association of commerce and industry. And I want to read this to you, and get your thoughts.

Some in the Idaho legislature are supposed to consider legislation to deal with ESG or environment, social, and governance. ESG, a risk management system is being labeled as the latest threat to individual rights.

Well, as preposterous as this sounds, folks like Glenn Beck have given legislators, a farcical conspiracy theory, from which legislation is being crafted.

While it's easy to dismiss, due to its lack of basis in reality. The problem it creates for businesses are real. Risk management for all companies.

Small and large. Private or publicly traded, have common threads in determining asset risks, from environment factors from climate change or local weather patterns.

Additional risks are present in employment and management relationships, and community acceptance of the business.

Finally, the governance of all companies are critical considerations, when it comes to risk management for investors.

Business is, by definition, based on a risk/reward system.

Legislative efforts to manage how risk inputs are evaluated are unwelcome. And foundationally dangerous to free enterprise. These people are actually using that.

The -- the Idaho association of commerce and industry, believes and defends, that if Idaho wants to retain the moniker of the least regulated state in the nation, there is no role for government to dictate how business or business their and investors will evaluate the importance, to each company. Whether it is through formal systems, labeled as ESG or otherwise.

Listen to this. The tragic reality of the new world is one where talking heads drive policy, to stir the masses by creating nonexistent problems. And then solving the problem with massive overreaches into the private sector.

Businesses cannot stand by and allow this to happen. And we will firmly defend our member's ability to run their own companies, in the way that best suits them as a private and independent entity.

ADAM: Well, first of all, congratulations, you're now officially a conspiracy theorist. This is good news. This is good news.

This is why I always call myself the crackpot. I figure that's much easier. They don't have to kill me.

Well, unfortunately -- and so much happened in such a fast amount of time, since we last saw each other. And a lot of it is coming much closer.

I think we're seeing the total capture. The capture is more or less complete. With that, I mean, if we go back, and talk specifically about what ESG is. It's great hearing about it. A lot of people are talking about it. Not sure exactly what it means. Again, it sounds for environmental social governance. And this is a -- there is a measuring standard that goes along with this. Which was created, literally by the bankers, including BlackRock. And with the separate foundation, to determine how environmentally conscious, socially conscious, and governance conscious a corporation is, and we're talking about mainly publicly listed companies.

GLENN: And hang on just a second. To give you an idea, there's no individual choice on anything. I've talked to people in the oil industry this week. And they have said, Glenn, we can't -- the leases and everything. Yeah. We need that.

We can't get a dime from the banks.

ADAM: Can't get money.

GLENN: So that's ESG. The banks are saying, no, those oil rigs --

ADAM: Not just the banks. It's much worse than that. It's the retirement funds. Pension funds. Insurance companies.

ADAM: Yeah.

And they have, for their own clients, they have certain things they can and cannot invest in.

And this ESG has become this fictitious score. And I don't have a Merrill Lynch retirement account. But I understand that people who do, are already seeing the ESG score of their portfolio, of the companies that they have in their portfolio.

GLENN: Right.

ADAM: And, you know, so we've seen a lot of this taking place, over the past, probably five years. When it started to accelerate. Environmental, that's all green new deal. And holy crap, we missed. We totally weren't paying attentional. And they passed a trillion and a half dollars, in which half is going into that kind of stuff. The social part.

GLENN: The latest bill that just passed. Yeah. The omnibus bill.

ADAM: These things are horrible. And that's all -- I'm sure the Federal Reserve is very happy. Oh, yes. We got to push some money out. Yeah, that's not going to help inflation.

But the social part, we've been watching, really the acceleration, with Black Lives Matter. You saw every corporation. Giving away tens of millions of dollars. Donating tens of millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter, Inc. Which, by the way, has been completely dissolved. There's no one around. Who runs it.

GLENN: Can't find the money.

ADAM: Where is the money? There's a lot of groups looking for money. We were all there. The money went through you. Where did you go?

That's also -- then you have the governance part. Which is equity. So do we have the right amount of black and brown people in the organization?

Do we have the right amount of female to male, to transgender, to whatever.

It all has to be equitable, and equal. And equity is really the key term.

But the social governance capture, is -- comes close to the environmental, with the war.

The war, I'll just say it, in Ukraine. First of all, covid is yesterday's news.

We're still in that -- in that head space, where we're freaked out about stuff.

And during lockdowns, et cetera. The thing that everybody could kind of glom on to, which created this social cohesion. Oh, my goodness.

We could get out of this. Was masking social distancing. And eventually, proof of vaccination. And et cetera, et cetera.

We're still kind of reeling from covid. Things are stopping.

There's no news from it. Please, pay no attention to the Pfizer documents that came out.

And we have tremendous inflation. Uncertainty in the world. War is always scary. And what have we all glommed on to? Thanks to the corporations who led the way, the huge divestiture in starting with Russian oil. But then tech companies.

Everyone just -- I mean, I'm surprised I didn't wake up this morning, and go to Google Maps, and not be able to find Russia.

You know, they canceled -- and we're all jumping on board, and this is wrong. This is fundamentally, at a human level, wrong.

GLENN: And it's wrong also, because despite what people say, that this is free market. Individuals get to choose their own way.

That is not true. That is the exact opposite.

MICHAEL: Wall Street is pushing. They're saying, you can't be in Russian stocks, for Russian assets, or commodities. You've got to get out of it.

And because of this capture, that's taking place with the large corporations, who are advertising, and telling everyone how great it is. I mean, the things that are happening.

This morning, I got an email from universal audio. They make audio equipment I use.

Well, this so horrible, what's going on.

We cut off all Russian customers. They can't even access all IP addresses. It's like, why are you doing that?

Isn't creativity crossing boundaries? Isn't that for all people of the world? I'm a Hamm, as in Hamm radio operator. There's a database online called QRZ.com. You can find all the call signs in there, and you can look stuff up. These guys, they took out all the Russian call signs overnight.

This -- this is -- this is insanity.

It is -- it is psychological escape. And we're following straight into demise.

GLENN: You know, I --

ADAM: For what is happening.

GLENN: I said earlier today, if they can do this to Vladimir Putin, who just willy-nilly throws people out of windows, and gets away with it. Has billions of dollars. And a country with a ton of nukes. If they can do this to him, what the hell do you think they'll think about doing something to you? When you disagree. I mean --

ADAM: And it's the cancellation that is the scary part, Glenn. Because it's financial canceling. And they did it to Canadian truckers.

I mean, in the omnibus bill.

I think it was $100 billion the IRS is going to receive.

GLENN: Yes.

ADAM: You know who they're not going to go after? Goldman Sachs. They're not going to go after BlackRock. They'll go after, you know, small people. Middle class -

GLENN: And probably people who have a low ESG score. Probably parents who are standing up in their -- in their school board meetings, and saying, this is wrong. Those people are going to be targeted.

ADAM: Yes, and you were talking to Michael Malice earlier. Another fine Texas resident. And, you know, he's -- he's absolutely right. With the direction, we're headed, with this announcement, well, it's just another let's go study stuff. And let's come back in six months. But the cryptocurrency, executive order.

GLENN: Biggest story of the week. I think that's the biggest story of the week.

ADAM: Yeah. Because once the central bank, digital coin comes in. And you can find online, videos of the director of the bank of international settlements, talking about this.

GLENN: Janet Yellen.

ADAM: It's open. They're very open about it. That your money will have expiration.

If they give you money, you may not be able to use it after a certain period. Literally, your dollars can be earmarked. And this can be tracked all the way through your spending habit. And when it pops somewhere, where you want to -- I can imagine, in the environmental part. Sorry, you can't buy gas today. You've surpassed your credits.

I know this sounds like -- but China is doing this.

GLENN: Russia. Russia started doing it too. Russia is now doing it.

ADAM: Well, of course, it's a globalist movement. Ultimately, the idea is to get all people enslaved underneath what they're doing.

GLENN: Yeah.

ADAM: But the way I see it, it's a perfect 2-pronged strategy. Now, you can -- you can inflate oil prices. You can -- you can make energy very expensive through legislation, executive orders, et cetera.

I truly believe that the idea -- and this is what you're going to hear our administration saying. Don't worry, we'll put 500,000 charging stations in.

Don't worry, oil won't be a problem once they buy an electric vehicle. That's what they want everybody to do. It's obvious. And they will push us in that direction.

It will be unaffordable to commute to work.

A whole section of people will have no problem, working from home.

It's the physicals versus the virtuals. Even though, you and I, by definition, are kind of virtuals. The physicals still have to go to work. They have five, 6-dollar a gallon gas.

It's going to break that system. Go home. You can't work. We'll save you some digital dollars.

GLENN: Right.

ADAM: Now, it's not tomorrow. But it's coming.

GLENN: It's coming I think sooner -- maybe longer than we would expect. But sooner than we would hope. Adam, hang on just a second. Because I want to continue the conversation about the digital currency.

Because does Congress or the people have a say in any of this? Or is it all the fed? We'll get to that in a second.

More with Adam Curry. Joseph lives in Pennsylvania. He writes about Ruff Greens. How it's affected his dog and his life. He said, my beagle is 17 years old. Sleeping like $20 a day. This is like President Miles.

STU: And miles put him to shame. He's 23 hours easy.

GLENN: He's out.

He wasn't active. I was afraid he was going to die soon. I tried Ruff Greens. I'm amazed. He's wagging his tail again. And I know he's happier. His food and Ruff Greens are gone every day. He's eating well. And he's more happy. I'm amazed at Ruff Greens. I appreciate getting my buddy back again. Thanks.

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You know, in that executive order, that Biden put out this week, it says, we have six months to -- to decide and come up with a plan, and we'll consult everyone.

Well, it talked about all its stakeholders. Other countries. Businesses around the world. Labor unions.

But it didn't say anything about the American people, or Congress.

It -- do you know that process? Is it all through the Federal Reserve?

They get to choose?

ADAM: Well, we have to go back to the Constitution, who is really allowed, or has the power to create money. And that's certainly not a commercial bank. But that's the Federal Reserve Act changed that. That is something that we would have to go back to.

I think that what is good for people to understand.

And I came to my own understanding, when I talked to banker friends, or people in politics. Even you see it now. When they talk about raising the debt limits.

And there's -- you know, this always is a polarizing issue. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, the Republicans will shut down this. The Democrats will shut down the government. What is really going on. And they're always surprised. You can't not raise the debt limit. That's un-American. You literally hear people say that. That's un-American. Because the way our system works. The financial system is, and this is why the Federal Reserve, does create our money.

Through debt. Says, you know, we like to keep inflation at 2 percent a year. That's not 2 percent, what you're paying extra in gas. Or what you're paying for household goods. Or this Consumer Price Index they've made up or changed throughout the years. That's how much money they need to print every single year, to create, in order for the system to work. And that's why, a Toyota truck, in the '70, cost $5,000. Now it starts at $50,000. That is the result of money printing throughout the decades.

GLENN: And what's crazy. You saw this in realtime. Recently, they said in 2008, the price of gas was -- what was it? 341.

But today -- or what was the price of gas?

STU: It was 411.

GLENN: 411, yeah. And now today, in today's dollars, they say, due to inflation.

STU: That would be like 525.

GLENN: You're like, wait. That was 12 years ago. What are you talking about?

You know, it's not like 1950, to today.

ADAM: Well, and so now the gig is up. Because throughout the financial crisis of 2008, 2009, when they created a whole lot of money. Then we had a similar issue in the liquidity; i.e., banks weren't trusting each other to lend to each other.

So there are one or two weak sisters in the mix. Which is still in there. We don't know where. Now we have another trillion and a half dollars going in. They're solving these problems, kind of as we're going along.

The fix is the central bank digital currency. Because then, you don't have to create more money. You can destroy money, and you can destroy it, directly from people.

By taking off my new amounts of their bank account, after the decimal, and just forever.

GLENN: Adam curry. Great to talk to you. Hope to talk to you again soon. Thank you very much.

Adam curry. You can find his podcast. It's tremendous. Wherever you get your podcasts.

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Glenn Beck and Eric Metaxas expose the spiritual crisis gripping America’s churches — a moment they compare to Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s warning before World War II. As the culture descends into moral confusion, too many Christians retreat into silence, claiming faith while refusing to act. Together, they argue that true belief demands courage — that “faith without works is dead” — and warn that neutrality in the face of evil is itself a form of complicity.

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Is Socialism replacing the American dream?

The American Dream used to mean freedom and the chance to build your own life through hard work, faith, and independence. But today, it’s been replaced by comfort, consumption, and debt. Glenn Beck breaks down how America traded liberty for lifestyle, why socialism is gaining ground, and what it will take to reclaim the real American Dream before it disappears for good.

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GLENN: I don't know if you saw the visualizing the American dream, Stu.

You know, what the American dream actually is, is that you can forge your own way.

You can -- you know, you can have a scrap of land, and grow your own food if up.

You can, you know, go to school. Not go to school.

You can find a job. If you're qualified for it, you have an equal chance of getting it, you know, based on merit.

But the percentage of Americans who say the American dream is retirement is 86 percent. Health care, 86 percent. Owning a home, 85. Raising two kids, 78. Owning a car, 72. Vacations, 71. Pets, 66. A wedding, 55 percent. That's the American dream, I can get married.

The American dream, if that's what you think, they've now estimated, the cost per household over the cost -- over the lifetime, retirement is $1.6 million. Owning a home now, 30-year mortgage, 20 percent you want to, is $957,594. Owning a car, buying and finance to begin with new cars every ten years is now $900,000 over your lifetime. Raising two kids to 18, plus four years of public college, $876,092. Two kids. Health care, over your lifetime, spending from ages 22 to 85, $414,000. Vacations, annual vacation from '22 to '85, $180,000. One dog and one cat for 11 to 13 years is $40,000!

That's more expensive than a wedding. The engagement ring, the ceremony, and the reception is now estimated to be $38,200.

There's a reason socialism is doing well. You look at that, and you're like, wow. I mean, if that's the American dream. And for a lot of people, that is the American dream!

That's not what the American dream is supposed to be, but, you know, once -- you know, once Woodrow Wilson and FDR got a hold of us and they started advertising, it became stuff instead of freedom. It became stuff. And, you know, when there's a new report out. Let me see if I have that.

There's a new report out now that shows, first time home buyers made up just 21 percent of the home purchases. That's the lowest on record.

The typical age of repeat buyers hit an all-time high of '62. The median downtowns, reaching 23 percent.

The highest since 2023.

And also, where is it?

The last one is -- the median age for first time home buyers, in 1981, it was 29 years old.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Twenty-nine years old. In 2021, it was 33 years old.

What is it this year?

Median age, first time homeowner, forty.

You're 40 before you can buy any kind of home. That puts these things that people want, dream about, out of reach, until you're 40?

You know, 29 is one thing. But if you're not seeing -- you're not seeing your life really kind of settling down until you're 40, I -- I can understand why you're like, you know what, this system doesn't work.

Because you've never seen it work. It's betrayed you.

Or so you've been sold. It's betrayed you.

And everything is being pushed out of your reach. And when you're young, the one thing you're not is patient.

And at 40, I can see why people are not, you know, yeah. Well, socialism is neat because capitalism isn't working. How would you respond to that?

STU: I mean, it's more lengthy than we have time for. But I would say that the response to, you know, you thinking that you want a home is not to embrace an ideology that murders 100 million people.

That's not -- that's not a good answer to the problem that you think you have.

GLENN: But they're not learning that anywhere.

They're not -- that is our responsibility! To teach those things. Because they're not learning it anywhere.

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Socialism is spreading fast among America’s youth, and the shocking election of Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani for mayor in New York City marks a major cultural and economic shift. Glenn exposes how runaway debt, record home prices, AI job disruption, and the collapsing stake in capitalism have led many Millennials and members of Gen Z to embrace socialism and communism. He reveals the three possible economic futures for 2026: two that are disastrous and one that could change everything if the Trump administration’s global financial overhaul succeeds. Plus, Justin Haskins, president of the Heartland Institute, joins to reveal some terrifying truths about why young Americans are embracing socialism from a poll he conducted with Rasmussen Reports.

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Glenn Beck warns: We're already in World War III

"The world doesn't understand yet. We're already in World War III," Glenn Beck warns. "That foe is not China. That foe is militant Islam." Glenn explains the battle we're currently facing and what's to come if we don't wake up soon...

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GLENN: From New Jersey, it's Brian. Hello, Brian.

CALLER: Hello!

GLENN: Hey.

CALLER: Yeah. Thanks for taking the calls today.

GLENN: Sure.

CALLER: Yeah. I'm worried that we are headed towards another French Revolution-style because we have entire generations. Or actually people just not being heard by their representatives.

GLENN: Hmm.

CALLER: And it's not just here. It's around the world.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

I -- actually, I had scheduled for this time, I'll just do it some other time. Talking about what's happening in -- in England.

I think England is headed for a Civil War. And -- and it's very close.

I mean, you can't put 4,000 people. 4,000 people, in jail, or try them for hate crimes. And speech crimes.

You can't -- you can't do it. In England!

You can't do that in one year. And expect people to just put up with it!

You can't -- you know, we're -- we're -- America doesn't understand yet.

The world doesn't understand.

We're in World War III. We're already in World War III.

I don't know when it becomes a hot war. Or even a war that we on our side recognize. But we are in World War III. And that -- that foe is not China.

That foe is militant Islam, period. And, you know, when we have a situation to where people are -- when the government is just like, no. It's not a problem.

It's not a problem. You know. You've got illegals all over.

It's not a problem.

It's not a problem.

It is a problem. Don't tell me what -- what the problems are not!

Because we're the ones living it!

You're the experts, who keep telling us, no. It's going to work out fine.

And it doesn't work out fine. And it just gets worse and worse.

Oh. We can spend this money. No. It looks like we can't spend this money. Oh, we can afford this. No. It looks like we can't afford this.

You know, if we do this with Ukraine, it will work out fine. No, it didn't, did it? These endless wars, all of this stuff, don't tell me what the problem is. Listen to the people and start talking to the people. Honestly, this is the reason why I'm doing this today. I -- I need to hear from you.

I need to know what's on your mind, so I stay focused and -- and clear on what America is saying.

Because I don't think -- look, you know, me taking phone calls is -- is not a true representation of anything, but it does give me a sense of -- of where you are, as an audience. Maybe not as America, but as an audience. And there are lots of things that concern me. But I want to hear it from you.
But I think you're right! We're headed for real, real trouble. All you need is real economic trouble.

You start getting real, true economic trouble. 1930s kind of depression stuff. And we're in Civil War.

Dan, Oregon. Welcome!

CALLER: Hello, Glenn. How are you?

GLENN: I'm great!

CALLER: Yeah. Good. It's been a long time.

I guess it's been over ten years, since I've had a chance to talk with you. I was one of your first insiders. I was listening to you, since you were in Florida.

GLENN: Wow. Wow.

CALLER: So it's been a long -- yeah. It has been. And I can't say I've enjoyed all of it.
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GLENN: Neither have I!

STU: I can't say that either, I'll be honest with you.

CALLER: You know, you were talking on yesterday's show, reminiscing with Stu about how you guys started. And I remember those old shows. And, you know, at the end of the -- the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Right.

CALLER: And there was a lot more entertainment. I remember I laughed a lot.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. I know. I know. Those days are long dead.
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STU: There's nothing to laugh about now.

CALLER: Yeah. I -- I'm 78. I still work 40 hours a week. I love my job.

GLENN: Good for you.

CALLER: Been married for 55 years. I have seven kids.

GLENN: Good for you.

CALLER: I've got a daughter -- I've got a daughter who is in her 40s. And she has severe TDS. She -- we don't -- I mean, we're not cutting each other off. She hasn't done that at all. We're still very close as a family. But she was down visiting the other day, and got into a conversation with my wife. And I wasn't in the room. But Kathy said it was just like listening to one of those young people out on the street that was being interviewed by the news media. And she was -- and she was in tears about it. My wife and my daughter both.

And, I mean, I love her, and I continue to support her. She's a single woman, not by choice. She just never found the right guy.

GLENN: Yeah.

CALLER: And I really think that's part of the problem. Because she started reading -- back when Trump was first running, she started reading all of this stuff about him being misogynistic and all of this stuff.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

CALLER: And it's just gotten worse. I -- I'm at a loss. I really am. Because I -- like, I see the country doing better. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. But I still feel like that at least right now, we're doing better as a whole. But what do we do about -- what do we do about our kids about -- she went to Portland State University for the last two --

GLENN: Oh, jeez, for the love of --

CALLER: Well, yeah. For the last two years, she went to -- she went to a little college in Idaho called Ricks for the first two years, and Utah State.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

CALLER: And then she served a mission for our church in Brazil and came home, but then she went to Portland State University. And it just seems to have gone downhill from there.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. So, Dan, I think you are suffering from the same thing that almost all parents are suffering from. If you're not suffering from this, then, I mean, God bless you. You know, get on your knees and thank God. Because you are a lucky, lucky family. Everybody has in their family. I have it in my family.

And you have to ask yourself, what is your goal?

My -- what is your goal with your daughter? Your real goal?

CALLER: My real goal is for us to be united eternally. That's my goal. That's my goal as a father and has been to teach her --

GLENN: And how -- and how is that going to happen with politics?

CALLER: We just stay together as a family regardless of what politics does.

GLENN: That's exactly right. Exactly right.

I think we're in a place now where as parents, you can ask your kids, but it has to be honest. It cannot be trying to win. It has to be honest. How did you get there?

I mean, I remember. You know, we've talked about this before. And you didn't believe that before. What has changed?

Can you help me with that?

I would like to see what you're reading, or what that was.

And just ask questions. But they have to be honest. They can't be, you know, because I'm setting you up. Because I want to change your mind.

But keep a dialogue open with them. And just love them!

Just love them!

Because if you do anything else, you're going to drive them away. And then they're really lost. So just love them.

CALLER: Oh, I know that. Glenn, when she was young -- when she was young, I considered her one of the elect. And the Scripture says, that in the last days, even the elect are going to be deceived. And that's what I'm seeing. But everything you've said, I -- I am doing. I'm doing it that way. Because I know --

GLENN: Okay. Good. Then you didn't need to -- I appreciate it. I'm so glad you called me. But you didn't need to -- my advice, you already have it down. You're a very wise man.