RADIOAugust 07, 2024

WATCH: 10 Times “Tampon Tim” Walz Told Us EXACTLY Who He Is

The media is trying to paint Kamala Harris’ VP pick Tim Walz as a lovable, folksy “midwestern dad.” But Glenn dug through the archives to find who Walz actually is. Glenn reviews 10 moments from Walz’s time as governor of Minnesota that prove he’s a radical socialist: He joked about investing in a “ladder factory” in response to Trump’s wall, he wants to protect trans kids’ “right” to genital mutilation, he had more COVID-19 nursing home deaths than Andrew Cuomo, he told Minnesotans to rat out their neighbors, he praised socialism as “neighborliness,” he wants no gas cars in Minnesota by 2035, his bathroom policies have garnered him the nickname “Tampon Tim,” he said it’s “ageism” to question Biden’s age, he denied shutting down schools, and he has no problem becoming a “sanctuary state” for illegal immigrants.

Transcript

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GLENN: Joining me today, is Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed. Pat, I listened to your show today. And Chewing the Fat with Jeffy. And you guys were on quite a roll with Tim Walz. You like him about as much as I do.

PAT: Oh, man!

Hmm. He's quickly risen to the top of my list of people that I dislike with a very intense disliking.

GLENN: Sure. What do you mean? You don't like -- I didn't get that impression from you, earlier at all.

PAT: I was a little subtle. Maybe I was too settle.

GLENN: Maybe.

PAT: Because I mentioned I disliked him with all the intensity of a trillion white hot suns.

Maybe that's not enough.

GLENN: I'm not sure what you were saying with that.

Now, could it be.

Could it be because he says things like this.

Cut 11, please. Here's Tim Walz.

VOICE: And I think seeing a plan that's out there, talking about it with folks. Knowing, that he's not going to do thinking.

He talks about this wall. I always say, let me know how high it is? 25 feet, then I'll invest in the 30-foot ladder factory. That's not how you stop this.

PAT: Oh, jeez.

GLENN: Huh.

Is it because of stuff like that?

PAT: Yeah, it's stuff like that. And worse, actually. Stuff like that, and worse.

GLENN: Here's cut ten. Could it be this?

PAT: Uh-huh.

VOICE: And what we want to say, we're there to protect children. We're there to understand, in Minnesota, you're going to be protected. I want to be clear. I will never understand what goes into the thinking of these folks, to bully these children. They're not impacting them in one bit. And making it a living hell for children, for families, for adults. For folks just trying to bring themselves in.

So in Minnesota, we're making it very clear. We're not going to cooperate with these folks. We're not going to extradite people. We're going to say that this a place where you can come and make these decisions. I'm -- this is -- the community, the trans community is -- is as terrified as they've ever been. We've seen attacks across the nation, even here in Minnesota. And we're -- we're now saying, we have to be much more proactive.

We have to be much more aggressive about making sure folks are protected.

PAT: Yeah. Folks are protected in getting their noodles cut off. That kind of thing.

GLENN: Children are protected. Children have a right to have their noodles cut off. Or their breasts removed.

PAT: If they're six and don't feel comfortable. Cut off their noodle. Who am I?

Not nobody.

GLENN: Yeah. Who are you? What kind of monitor have you become? You know, I mean, it's really -- it's really, really bad.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: He's also -- you know, he was big on COVID. He was --

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Well, when I say he was big on that. He had more nursing home deaths in his state, than they had in New York. Under Cuomo.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: So, but he was -- it wasn't that he was a total dictator. It was just that he was a total authoritarian.

And locked everything down. But he went the extra mile. Here he is. Cut 28, now.

Here he is on -- on a new way, to be neighborly.
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VOICE: Hello, you have reached the Department of Public Safety, stay-at-home hotline. The information you leave is considered public information. At the tone, please leave the following information. Your name, your callback number. How the stay-at-home order is being violated. And where the stay-at-home order was violated.

Thank you.

VOICE: Record your message at the tone. When you're finished, hang up and press pound for more options.

PAT: And that's, of course --

GLENN: So congratulations.

PAT: That's where you snitch on your neighbor. Hey, I just saw my neighbor pull out of their driveway. They're going somewhere. I think you need send a S.W.A.T. team right now. Please, because they left their house. They left their house.

GLENN: That's just being neighborly, isn't it?

PAT: That's all that is.

GLENN: It's just being a good neighbor. Here's cut 29.

PAT: But we can get out there, reach out, make the case. And for one thing, don't ever shy away from our progressive values.

One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.

GLENN: Amen. Amen. Amen.

Now, they just don't understand how the left wants, you know, freedom.

And the right is just trying to take rights away.

You know, like they're not taking rights away H.W. Bush they want to take your guns.

They're not taking rights away, when they lock you in your house. And tell you, you can't go anywhere.

They're not taking any rights away. When they're saying, you have to inject this into your body.

They're not taking any rights away at all.

In fact, it's just good neighborly stuff. To be able to snitch on your neighbor.

That's so American. So folksy.

PAT: It is.

GLENN: So folksy. And not weird, I'll tell you that.

Not weird at all.

PAT: And when they tell you, that you shouldn't be driving SUVs. That doesn't -- that doesn't limit your choices on what you can drive.

Not at all.

GLENN: No. He's not taking away your right at all.

PAT: No. No.

GLENN: He's just saying, that there will be no gasoline cars in the state of -- by 35. That's all he's saying.

PAT: So is that a bad thing?

GLENN: In ten years, nobody is driving gasoline cars. Because he's also not taking your right away. He's not. He's definitely not when he says, we're going to shut down the oil industry. Giving you all kinds of choices. You can have solar panels. Or you can have, you know, wind-powered electricity.

PAT: There's two choices right there. What do you want?

GLENN: How many choices do you need, do you know what I mean? Man, it's just so crazy what people are saying about him. Now, so he's -- I would like to call him the name that people call him in the state occasionally, and that's Tampon Tim.

Which I think is very dignified, and shows what he's for, and that is: Tampons in boy's restrooms. You know, he -- you know, who are you to say, you shouldn't have -- you should use the restroom, you know, designated for the sex you were born with. That is so bigoted. So weird.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: So weird. This is folksy. You know, you have your boy, go in, and shove a tampon, up where he's bleeding.

That's normal!

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Hello!

PAT: If that's not Middle America, I don't know what is.

GLENN: No. No. And as he said, one man's socialism is another man's neighborliness. And, you know, when I think of a good neighbor, I think of Stalin. I think of Mao.

PAT: Yeah! Yeah.

GLENN: I think of the good neighbors that were turning Jews in, you know, in Germany.

I think of those neighbors. They were neighborly. National Socialist Party! Yeah, in Germany.

So it is -- it is. Some people would say, that's socialism, you know, where you rat on a neighbor.

Hey, there's a Jew living next door.

And other people just think that that's -- that's just neighborly. You know, that's not socialism.

It's just neighborly. And I love it.

He's also a man of truth.

If you look at cut 12 here, he was telling you the truth here the whole time. He was way ahead of the curve. Listen.

VOICE: I've spent a lot of time with the president. And he's great. We're chatting and talking. And I think we all get a little older. That's what happens.

But you also gain that insight, and I think, when it comes to those issues. Working across the aisle to get things done, you see the president just doing this with dignity, doing it with class. Getting up every day.

Doing the work. So I think he's just doing what he does, and I think it's incumbent upon all of us -- look, my mom is 88, still living on the farm, drives herself.

PAT: Is she the president though?

VOICE: Folks are able to do this. So I think this little bit of ageism that goes to this, if it's not that, it would be something else. They attack all of us on something. This is part of it.

PAT: That's right. That's all.

GLENN: Yeah. Absolutely. How folksy of him.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: He's not lying there. He's just being folksy. He's just telling a story.

And it turns out, that he was absolutely right. He's totally just like his mom, able to drive his car. You know, Tim, I want you -- when you get to Washington, you're not going to need a car. Because you'll have Secret Service driving you everywhere. Why don't you just hand the could you see over to Joe, of your car. And tell them just to -- hey. Joe.

Why don't you just take it. Park it in the garage. Around the corner.

You're going to be fine.

Because I don't think. You know, his mom could drive a car.

PAT: Sure. Yeah. She's 88.

That's older than Joe. She's 88. Now, she's not running the country.

GLENN: Exactly right.

PAT: But I'm sure she has just as important a position. And it doesn't -- it doesn't mess her up at all, getting old.

GLENN: Well, I will tell you, that there's a couple of other things that I think are really, really good. There -- Minnesota, there's room in the inn.

And in fact, let me just -- let me just play Tampon Tim here, on sanctuary cities.

Cut 13, please.

VOICE: Could you have done the schools differently. I think lots of parents are upset about what happened with the schools. Do you think you could have made any other choice.

VOICE: Well, just to be clear. 80 percent of our students miss less than 10 days of in-class learning. The vast majority of students were in. It depended again on population density. Many of these positions were being made by local folks, to be able to do what was necessary to keep them there.

I think again, in hindsight, if we could have known, that we would get vaccinations out as quickly as possible.

We prioritized teachers and the staff in school to get there. We're doing it differently now.

And since, May of 2021, almost every one of our students has been in, the entire time, and been doing that.

So I think with hindsight, at 2020, perhaps we could have tailored a little bit careers than that.

The fact of the matter, making the case that we couldn't have done anything, is simply wrong.

GLENN: Yeah. Simply wrong. By the way, that was about him shutting down all of the schools, which apparently never happened, Pat.

Never happened. Let's go to cut 13, please.

And that's --

VOICE: If the definition of that is that the federal government enforces immigration law, and local laughter, enforces local law. Then yes.

VOICE: Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities?

VOICE: Yes. Local control.

GLENN: Local control. Local control.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: I mean, he's not for local control on anything else. But when it comes to sanctuary cities. As he said, there is -- there is room in the inn, you know, for more Somalis and everything else.

And he has taken -- I will give you just a little track record, when we come back here, on Tim.

Because he has taken the state of Minnesota. And just, I mean, it's just taken off.

It's an entirely new state to him.

PAT: It's a rocket ride to the moon. With Tim Walz.

GLENN: You know, I think, Pat. Now, you can disagree with me.

But I think you put a team together, like Kamala Harris.

From California.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And bring in those California things right to America.

And then tampon Tim's Minnesota -- what he's done to that state.

My gosh. I mean, America is fixed.

PAT: Imagine kind of on a nationwide kale.

GLENN: Yeah. My dog is fixed as well. But it's going to be -- it's going to be fantastic.

GLENN: Now, J.D. Vance is weird.

Because he went to Yale.

And, you know, Walz said, look, I grew up in a small town, and its small town values.

And he said, yeah. J.D. Vance grew up in a small town, but he eventually attended Yale Law School. J.D. Vance talks about this in Hillbilly Elegy.

None of my hillbilly cousins went to Yale. Yeah, maybe because your hillbilly cousins either don't have the aptitude or the interest to go to Yale.

I mean, Yale is really not for everybody. You know, not everybody has to go to Yale. In fact, a lot of people would really hate Yale. I for one, went to Yale. And hate Yale. But gosh darn it, I just -- I won't give any money to Yale.

Why not?

Man, I'm weird. Anyway, J.D. Vance worked hard. That's something called meritocracy. And that doesn't happen in socialist countries.

No. Everybody has an equal outcome. Everyone is equally miserable. Well, I shouldn't say that.

Except for the people at the very top. They tend to get very, very rich and powerful. And not so folksy. You know, not quite so folksy.

So J.D. Vance just doesn't know anything about small-town America.

Because, you know, he went to Yale, after his.

Yeah. Yeah. He did. He earned a scholarship

Because he decided to work hard. He made that choice. You should watch the video or read the book. It's really interesting. Tampon Tim.

Liz Wheeler: Trump must EXPOSE these RADICAL Kamala Harris plans

BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ joins Glenn Beck with her predictions for the ABC News debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Does Kamala want to appear as a “girl boss” taking on a white, patriarchal bully? How should Trump counter this? Liz advises Trump to focus on how radical Harris is, despite what she claims on the campaign trail: highlight her record on things like abortion, child gender surgeries, the military and foreign wars, and the economy.

Transcript

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GLENN: Liz Wheeler. How are you?

LIZ: Hi, I'm well. Thanks for having had me.

GLENN: You're welcome. You're welcome. So I guess I will start with where Stu started with me this morning. Are you optimistic?

LIZ: I'm so excited for this debate.

GLENN: Are you really?

LIZ: Yes. I'm a political nerd. I just love this stuff.

I know it's a circus. It's a clown show.

It seems like a culmination of what we fight for every day. We finally have two people that are representing polar opposite viewpoints for our country.

Different paths. And I'm rooting for Trump.

I think he can win. But I think one of the most important thing he has to do is understand his enemy. If you know your enemy, then you will be able to tweet them. And he has to be very self-aware that Kamala Harris will be this girl boss. Girl power. She will try to provoke him emotionally.

And he has to be able to let that roll off his back.

GLENN: So what do you mean, she will be the girl boss, girl power?

LIZ: Remember when she was debating Mike Pence during the last round, and she goes, excuse me, Vice President, I'm speaking?

Why do you think this time, her team, insisted that the mics be left open. Remember, the first debates?

Between Trump and Biden. The mics were muted. So you could only speak during your allotted time, otherwise no one would be able to hear you. All of a sudden, she had agreed to this.

Then last week, her team said, we want the mics open. Why?

So she could run these, quote, unquote, fact-checks in realtime.

She can say, you're lying, I'm speaking. And make it seem like he's this white patriarchal male, who is trying to be a bully to her as a woman of color.

GLENN: Right.

I think if he handle this is debate, exactly the same way, he handled it the way with Joe Biden.

He will do really well.

LIZ: Yes. He did very well with Joe Biden.

Because he was so disciplined with his message.

See, this is the thing. Kamala Harris is a radical. She is not moderate. She's not centrist. She shouldn't appeal to independents. She is a radical leftist. A Marxist. Her father was a Marxist. Is a Marxist.

Economics professor.

And Donald Trump should highlight that.

He has all the facts on his side.

She had been in the White House for four years thousand.

Her record is Joe Biden's record.

GLENN: Well, I don't know if you heard the news today.

But her policy page is Joe Biden's policy page.

How do you do that?

LIZ: It's like a gift to the Trump campaign.

GLENN: Oh, it absolutely is.

LIZ: She will come out and pretend to be a prosecutor. She will ask him pointed question after pointed question without --

GLENN: Yeah, she will call him a felon.

LIZ: Yes, and you know what she should do?

If she calls him a felon. Because she's going to -- that's polled well for them. He should say, Madam Vice President, do you agree with the Supreme Court ruling, that the vaccine mandate that came from the Biden/Harris administration was illegal? If she says she agrees with the Supreme Court, then she is acknowledging that she was a tyrant. Trying to violate all of our medical freedoms. And if she says no, I think the Supreme Court is wrong. Then she's saying, she thinks it's illegal to do that.

When you want to talk about crime -- a visceral response that people are going to have to a crime committed against them, he should pivot to the topic that's important for the viewers to understand. He's never going to change Kamala's mind on mind.

That's not the point. The point is to showcase the American people, what she is.

GLENN: You know, you've started with saying. And I've wanted this for a long time.

If we're going to talk about communism. We're going to talk about truly changing the economy.

Changing the Constitution.

All the things that the world economic four up until has been doing.

Along with the Biden Harris thing.

Then let's have that -- let's that have conversation, honestly. You know.

And we do have, literally, a communist.

She -- what she is preparing, is communism.

And her dad loves that stuff. So she grew up steeped in all of this stuff.

But she won't admit it. That's the problem.

LIZ: No, but her track record shows it. So all Trump has to do is remember one question. Every time she makes an assertion, he should say, what does that mean?

He should say it rhetorically. He shouldn't give her back the microphone. He says, I'm going to be tough on the border. What does that mean?

During the past four years, when you were in the White House and had control of this, as the border czar, which was acknowledged by the United States Congress after Biden appointed you to that position, eight and a half million illegal aliens cross the border. So when you say you will be tough on the border, is that your definition of tough on the border, or did you fail when you had a chance at this job?

GLENN: She is going to say, we have greatly stopped the flow of --

KAMALA: I hope she does, because that will turn people off.

Because people have Haitian migrants eating ducks in their front yard in Springfield, Ohio. They won't believe her when she says, everything is hunky-dory.

GLENN: Yeah, I don't -- tell me this.
I said to Stu yesterday, that I'm actually becoming more and more optimistic about this election.

Because things are getting so bad.

KAMALA: Yeah.

GLENN: That the average person. I mean if you're -- you're a stay at home mom. If you're a mom, you are worried about your kids getting to and from school. Even in California.

Where now the immigrants are just staying at the bus stop.

Standing there with your kids. And if the bus sees a bunch of immigrants there.

Because they're trying to get on the buses. If they see them, they just blow on by. They won't pick your kid up.

So now your kid is left at the bus stop, with illegals, because the bus driver does not want to stop. You have your -- every day, you're going in, and you're fighting against prices.

The rate of the rise of inflation. Has slowed down.

But they keep saying that, you know, inflation is -- is falling.

No. The rate of how -- the rate of how -- of going up. Has slowed down.

But we're still 20 to 23 percent inflation, compared to when Trump was in office.

GLENN: That's all he has to say.

He just has to say. My fellow Americans. How much are you paying for groceries right now?

What was your grocery bill last week? How much did it cost you to fill up your tank of gas, the last time you filled up at the gas station?

And then he says, and how much did it cost when I was president?

And if Kamala Harris says, I will impose price controls, or some other Communist measure for the food industry. That's her general idea. Which showcases exactly what she is. He just has to say, well, do you support continuing to send US dollars to Ukraine. Because that's what's causing inflation.

She will say, yes. This is a fight against Putin. He's a tyrant. Blah, blah, blah. After she finishes her spiel, Trump just says, okay. So what I'm hearing you say, is, yes, you want to continue to spend American dollars in Ukraine.

Which means you're saying to the American people, you don't care how much their gas and groceries cost.

I do care. And I've proved that. Because when I was in the White House, people had a very different life, than when you were in the White House.

GLENN: Yes. When it comes up to Ukraine. I mean, right now, Afghanistan is on everybody's mind again because it was the anniversary.

And that was such a disaster. And now, we are -- we are openly praising Ukrainians for their drone attacks on Moscow.

We would never put a -- if Canada became an enemy, and Russia was sending drones over. And military equipment.

And they were -- they were bombing with drones. New York or Washington, DC.

We would not put up with it.

They're not going to put up with it either.

And you can't -- how is she going to make the case, that we are safer today?

Again, I go back to the mom, worried about her kids.

I don't want to send my kids to war.

I don't want our world to be at war. I'm also, I don't want drag queens in my -- at my school, you know, for my kids.

All of these things are so much worse.

That I just think that, when people close the curtain, this time around, they are going to reflect. Do I want more of this?

GLENN: Right. This is why I encourage President Trump to stay on message. Because if you get into the weeds on the personal stuff, as entertaining as that might be for us to watch for a moment, the average American wants to talk about how things impacted them. That's classic politics.

So with the war in Ukraine. Yes. You can talk about these hypothetical war plans. The truth of the matter is, Kamala is dragging us to the bring of war. She's arguably the one who started this war, by saying Ukraine could be part of NATO.

That was, what? A month before Russia invaded Ukraine.

There's no doubt, that there was a correlation between those comments and the onset of this war. She is a warmonger. She wants to continue this.

And then she wants to draft our daughters and send them to the war. Tell that to the average suburban mom. I have two young daughters. The idea that Kamala Harris could send them off to war, enrages me.

GLENN: I have an 18-year-old daughter. That could be drafted, I guess, under her, if we went into a war. That is --

LIZ: It's unacceptable.

GLENN: And there's no Canada for my son to run to. But I would have to have some place for my son and daughter to run to.

They will not serve in a war with these people. They won't. I, as a dad would say, do not do it. Where do we have you go to?

LIZ: And it's a very frightening prospect in our country. We shouldn't be in a situation where we feel like we have to run away from our country, otherwise our children --

GLENN: Yeah. I have never felt that way. Never. Under any president.

LIZ: I have not either. And I'm a newer parent than you are. My oldest is three and a half.

But my idea that I'm already having to think about all these different ways to protect her, from the left trying to get her. Whether trying to indoctrinate her on abortion.

I actually had last year. It was not this past November, but the November before. I had a debate with the local school board member, outside the polls. I was walking in and carrying my daughter on my hip. And the school board member, or this candidate I knew was very leftist. And she wanted to talk about her policies. And I was like, sure. I enjoy this a little bit.

And I said to her, do you believe in teaching trend-setter ideology to children? And she goes, oh, we need to be inclusive. I held up my daughter who I don't use for political props. But she was just there with me voting. And I said, so if my 2-year-old at the time, said she wanted to be a boy, you would transition her behind my back? And essentially, she said yes. And I said, evil. That's evil. That's what we're fighting against. People who will say that to your face.

GLENN: I know.

LIZ: President Trump should bring that up.

GLENN: You know, it's amazing what they will say to our face. And then what they say is a conspiracy theory. That they always turn out now, to be absolutely accurate. And they eventually admit it. Yes. Okay.

That is true. The things that they say to our face, are frightening enough. When somebody is unclear with you, in this administration, you should be terrified.

And I don't know why people continue to listen to liars. You know, Donald Trump exaggerates. He exaggerates.

I don't know. I mean, I can't think of anything. Of any importance, that he has exaggerated or lied about.

Can you think of anything that he lied about?

STU: For example, we talked about a couple of times. When he was saying, no. No one opposed Roe vs. Wade being overturned. Right?

Now, what he's talking about there is clearly there were, a lot of people on the left, legal scholars who did think it was bad law. So he is summarizing a legitimate situation by overstating it.
GLENN: Yes. Correct. Correct.

LIZ: It's like a general -- a hyperbolic generalization on a lie. I'm not trying to justify or be precise. But there is a difference.

GLENN: Yeah. There is a difference. And especially when you know you're lying.

You know, it's one thing to say this, and, you know. And he said, there are fine people on both sides.

No. At this point, you are engaging in evil, because you know exactly what you're doing.

That is exact opposite of what he said. And they just. I guess people just are -- they're either numb to it. Or they hopefully are waking up, and going, you know what, these people have given me this crap, in my -- in my home. In my bank account. And with -- in my city.

I can't trust them anymore. I don't -- I mean, I just can't keep doing it.

LIZ: Right. And obviously, Kamala is responsible for her own lies. But the institution that is responsible for allowing her to be a liar is the mainstream media. And that's what I would advise President Trump.

He shouldn't come off as a bully. There is the idea that if you have a man and a woman on stage, and the man is being harsh, there are a lot of women, who will interpret that as being a bullying demeanor.

Whether or not it's true, that's simply the reality of how people perceive things. And so he should say, what does that mean? When she says a lie.

Because here are the statistics that show that that's not true. And say, I don't know why you're not -- but to deceive the American people. But this is why -- this is a good example of the damage that happens when the mainstream runs interference for you. Because you shouldn't be on the stage if you're not going to tell a truth. But that should have been weeded out years ago by media actually doing their job and asking questions, about why you were contradicting your actions.

GLENN: All right. Back in just a second. We're with Liz Wheeler. I want to talk to you, Liz, about abortion. How should he handle? Because that's her big thing.

She's in the evil territory.

LIZ: She's not just pro-choice. She's pro-abortion.

GLENN: Oh, yeah, and she's almost Malthusian. You know, when you're willing to go, well, let the baby die after birth. That's a problem.

LIZ: It's child sacrifice.

GLENN: Yeah. It is.

So how should he handle abortion? Because she's going to lie and say, he wants to take all of your rights away. Which he doesn't. But he -- he has to say, what he actually believes. But he also can't piss off his own core, because he already is --

LIZ: He did.

GLENN: Yeah. He's already pissed them off. So he doesn't need to make it worse. How does he respond to that?

LIZ: It depends on how she brings it up. I'm more pro-life than Donald Trump. I'm a pro-life absolutist, and I encourage Donald Trump and everyone to be the same.

I acknowledge the reality that he is not. My advice to him would be to start out by praising life. Say, life is precious. Life is wonderful. I have five children. I have however many grandchildren. They have been the biggest blessings of my life. And I want to ensure that women across our country and American families, I want to make abortion unthinkable. I want to change the culture so that life is something that we value. I want to us think, who might this young girl or young boy be?

And I want to make it financially possible, I want people to feel financially secure and emotionally supported when they face these surprise pregnancies.

I believe that life begins at conception. I know he's unlikely to say that. Because he talks often about thinking abortion is okay through six weeks. I obviously disagree with that. But I encourage him to follow the science.

He always talks about following the heart. If he truly spends some time and reflection, I think he should be based.

I think he should say, abortion is wrong. Abortion is sad. Abortion ends the life of an unborn baby, who had potential and a future. And it harms women, it harms families. It harms our country. I don't want that.

And he should make it a generally positive message, without sacrificing the value of the dignity of life.

GLENN: Can he go in to, you know, she wants -- she wants abortion after birth?

CAORL: Oh, of course, he should highlight. He, of course, should highlight just how radical she is.

I mean, this is one of the most radical politicians in our country on abortion, if not the most.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. She's almost Margaret Sanger.

LIZ: Probably more so, because Margaret Sanger at the beginning didn't support late-term abortion or after-birth abortion.

GLENN: That's true. That's true.

LIZ: Kamala Harris does.

And he should highlight, that she's out of step with the American people. Even women who identify as pro-choice, 80 percent of Americans, including pro-choice women want late-term abortion to be banned.

Sixty percent want late-term abortion should be banned. He should highlight that he stands with the majority of America. And that she -- she does not.

And he certainly should highlight that the CDC says between 13 and 30,000 times a year, late-term abortions happen. That's awful.

GLENN: Liz Wheeler. She'll be joining us tonight for our live coverage of the debate on Blaze TV.

DEBATE PREDICTION: Will Kamala & ABC News try to TRAP Trump?

The first debate between former president Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris is quickly approaching. So, Glenn and Stu give their best predictions: Will Trump force Harris to finally admit the policies she’s for? Will Harris try to trap Trump into making comments that the media can spin? Will she just call him a “felon” constantly? Will Trump bring his classic energy, or has surviving an assassination attempt mellowed him? And which would be better in his face-off against Harris? Glenn and Stu also discuss a report from the Media Research Center, which found that the debate’s host network, ABC News, is as biased as can be.

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STU: So the debate is tonight.

GLENN: Yes, it is.

STU: And it is going to be an interesting one. I don't think it can live up to the standards of the last one. I just don't think that it can get to that level.

GLENN: Yeah. But wouldn't it be nice?

STU: I think so. As long as it doesn't happen in the opposite direction.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

But there is a chance that either one of them, could just step on a land mine.

STU: It's very possible.

And I'm -- I will -- are you concerned?

What's your concern level? One to ten. Glenn Beck concern level going into tonight.

GLENN: Because it's American politics, and the stakes are so high. One to ten. 100.

STU: Yeah. I'm kind of there. I don't know if we're there for the same reasons.

GLENN: What?

STU: Because the stakes are super high. Obviously, you're concerned.

GLENN: That's 99 percent of it.

STU: Your concern is not Kamala Harris is an amazing debater, right?

GLENN: No. It's just that she's going to be everything she can, just to get under his skin. I mean, that is literally the -- the plan. Is to get under his skin. Make him angry, so he says something.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: And, you know, I just hope that he -- he is as good as he was, on the last debate.

STU: Yes. As far as knowing what the situation is, and knowing what's going on. Right? It is -- a lot of it is about awareness in that moment. And that is probably what Trump is best at, in these debates. You think back to the -- well, you would be in jail. That moment, with Hillary Clinton.

That was him, just picked apart the conversation at the moment. He's very good at that. He's obviously not as skilled at going after policy details. That's not what his game is.

GLENN: I bet it will be tonight. I bet it will be tonight. What is your plan? What is your plan? What is your plan? Let's talk about details. What's your plan?

STU: Right. Asking about them constantly. Like him trying to recite parts of health care laws, is not a good point for Donald Trump.

GLENN: No. It's not going to be good for her either.

STU: No. And she is the reverse of Trump. She's much worse in the moment. She's much worse realizing what's going on. The only thing I think she will try to do I think in this debate is to make Donald Trump, lure him into some sort of, quote, unquote, sexist, quote, unquote, racist moment.

That she can exploit.

You go back to that Mike Pence debate. Where she said, excuse me.

Mr. Vice president.

GLENN: I'm speaking. Oh, shut up.

STU: It's like, we know you're speaking. The problem is the words coming out of your mouth.

It's not that you were speaking.

If you were saying true things, you wouldn't need to be interrupting. But you're lying constantly. That is the moment they'll try to get that into something. And to be clear, the media will try to magnify that into something it's not.

GLENN: ABC is so bad. So bad.

Did you see the numbers on ABC? Let me see if I can find it real quick. So ABC is absolutely the most biased out of all of them. They are so much more worse. Is that right?

They're worse than NBC. And that's saying something!

STU: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. According to -- according to, you know, a watchdog group, they --

STU: The earner center, I think it was.

GLENN: Yeah. I think it was. They tracked CBS, ABC, and NBC. CBS was actually the most fair and balanced out of the three.

I think it had a score in the 70s. And what they scored was, is there any -- is it balanced?

Is there the other side ever being shown?

Is the anchor ever giving the benefit of the doubt?

Are they saying something positive?

Or is it just all negative?

On Kamala Harris, it was 100 percent positive coverage.

100 percent.

STU: Well, it wasn't 110 percent positive.

GLENN: It could have been worse.

STU: Well, actually, it can't be.

That's unbelievable.

GLENN: Here it is. No. Actually, NBC was best. 71 percent, with NBC.

STU: 71 percent positive is the best. The best number?

GLENN: The best number is 100 percent.

STU: No. But I'm saying, like for our -- for fairness. The best one was 71 percent positive.

GLENN: Seventy-one percent.

Then 94 percent for CBS. ABC, 100 percent.

STU: And what's the time period on this? They must say one negative thing?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Since --

STU: Since?

GLENN: She became the candidate.

STU: Oh, my God. That's over a month.

That's 50 days now?

GLENN: Yeah. 100 percent. Now, Trump's negative coverage, 77 percent on CBS.

86 percent on ABC.

STU: Oh, my God. These are terrible.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

But -- but nobody -- nobody even -- nobody even came close.

STU: I didn't even think about that.

GLENN: 100 percent.

STU: I have to -- you have to think about it. Are they this incompetent?

How have they ever lost an election? With this environment, how do you lose elections?

GLENN: Well, I don't know if it's ever been this bad.

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Now, it is -- it's just lies. I mean, they've always gotten stories wrong.

And they're like, well, yeah. That's not the way you frame that story.

You know what I mean?

That's the way it used to be. And then some lies.

Now, it is non-stop.

If I hear that very fine people thing, one more phylum

STU: How many times can they do this?

Oh, my gosh. And they just keep getting away with it.

STU: Did you see the one they tried to J.D. Vance?

GLENN: No.

STU: J.D. Vance. Quote. Shootings are just a part of life. Are you kidding me? That's not what he did. That's not what he said.

GLENN: In context, he made a big deal about how horrible this was.

What I tragedy this shooting was.

And he said, unfortunately, and I don't like this. Shootings have become part of life.

STU: Yeah. A fact of life. And we've got to stop it.

STU: But if you take all the context out. And say fact of life. It looks like you're just this, yes, and wants people to die.

GLENN: Hey, whatever. Those kids are killed. It's a fact of life, you know what I mean?

STU: Let's build all schools near a mountain so they have high ground for all these assassins. It's like, no, that's not what he said.

GLENN: It's really almost that.

STU: It's like, they all know what they're doing.

This is the Donald Trump, we're going to have a bloodbath, dot, dot, dot, in the economy.
But they just say bloodbath. This is stuff. They all know what they're doing here. This is not like mistakes.

Not like, this is taken out of context. They are intentionally trying to sink his campaign. Because they hate him.

And I don't know that they love Kamala Harris honestly. She's just the other thing.

GLENN: Well, that quote really originated with the Associated Press. And I don't know if you saw this.

But the Babylon Bee has -- has put a list together of all the things that the AP has said in the past.

And they still stand by it. You know, for instance, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. According to -- according to the AP. The only thing we have, dot, dot, dot. Is fear itself.

STU: Hmm. Wow! I don't --

GLENN: Neil Armstrong.

That's one small, dot, dot, dot, man.

STU: That was a height speech?

GLENN: Yeah. Wayne Gretzky. You miss 100 percent of the shots you, dot, dot, dot, take.
STU: So you shouldn't even try, is what he's saying.

GLENN: Donald Trump, I can't believe he came out and said it. But it was reported by the AP. I am literally, dot, dot, dot, Hitler.

STU: Oh, my gosh. He said that? So he's not even saying he is endorsing the policies of Hitler, he's saying he's the man.

GLENN: And let me tell you, John F. Kennedy is practically Kamala Harris. John F. Kennedy: Ask not, period.

STU: So you shouldn't bother asking.

GLENN: Don't even ask. Don't even ask. How about this one? Martin Luther King: I have a dream that one day, dot, dot, dot, little boys will be, dot, dot, dot, little girls.

STU: So he was for this gender stuff?

GLENN: He was for it.

STU: A reverend was for all of this gender stuff? Glad they covered that.

GLENN: And, of course, you know, you want to talk about weird. Thomas Jefferson. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that men are dot, dot, dot, endowed, dot, dot, dot, well.

STU: Oh, wow. I thought that was Abraham Lincoln they were talking about with those things.

GLENN: Yeah, Patrick Henry: Give me death.

Franklin Roosevelt again. December, dot, dot, dot, will live in infamy.

STU: Just the whole month?

GLENN: Anti-Christmas. Just anti-Christmas. And, of course, Bill Clinton.

I did, dot, dot, dot, that woman. That one is actually --

STU: That's a good summary.

GLENN: That one is right.

You know what they're doing is, they're changing history in realtime. They really, truly believe, that Hitler was right when he said, you say a lie wrong enough, loud enough, people will begin to believe it's the truth.

I mean, there's no other reason to keep saying, very fine people. Other than --

STU: They know they're lying on that. And they may think that secretly it's what he really believes.

They might really. They may actually apply those things to him. I think they hate him enough maybe to believe that.

GLENN: Yeah. I was going to say. You know why they believe that? Not based on any fact. But just what they think.

You know he believes that. What?

You know, what kind of people do they hang around all the time?

STU: The worst people that have ever been created. Maybe it's because they're surrounded by all the most awful people that have ever existed. Could be that.

GLENN: Yeah. And their experience tells them, that everybody on earth, is a scumbag. Because that's all they're surrounded by. And actually, we know that to be true.

We worked -- we worked in those circles. Yeah. Not a lot of home runs there, on the people front. You know.

STU: Home runs on the people front.
(laughter)
That's an interesting way to describe multiple cities. I think it's pretty accurate.

The ONLY way Trump can BEAT Kamala in a LANDSLIDE

The evidence is clear: Americans have had enough of the Harris/Biden administration. Inflation and prices are up, homelessness is rising, and illegal immigration has turned safe towns into hotbeds for unchecked crime. But there’s only one way that this changes: People must go out and VOTE. If they do, Glenn predicts, Donald Trump will win in a landslide. But ONLY if Americans show up at the ballot office! Glenn reviews videos of concerned citizens whose life has been upended by illegal immigration and lax law enforcement. Plus, he reviews the claims that Haitian immigrants are eating ducks and cats in the streets of Springfield, Ohio.

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GLENN: So I have to tell you, I was with Tucker Carlson this weekend, and did his -- you know, his stage thing. And it was fantastic.

And there was just a spirit -- I had all day. I had to do some fundraisers earlier in the day, and I'm with these people.

And I'm just like, there is something happening today. At least in me.

And I don't know if people who saw the Carlson, you know, interview or I guess -- I don't know what it was. It was just two friends goofing around. But if you saw it, if you felt something change. But I think maybe it's just the realization that things could change for the better, that fast.

But we have to get out and vote.

But let me show you. You know, the poll numbers, Nate Silver just put out, his latest prediction. He says, Trump has a 68 percent chance of winning.

That's pretty remarkable. Tucker said, he's seen some polls, from both sides. And he said, Kamala is starting to crater.

STU: And just to -- 64 percent.

GLENN: Sorry.

STU: 63.3 percent is where you got the 68. Still, significant favor.

64, 36.

GLENN: It was a couple months ago.

STU: Harris was leading as of August 28 only a couple weeks ago.

GLENN: Right. Right. Okay. So let me tell you what I'm feeling, and you tell me that I am wrong. But I don't think I am.

I don't know if you've been -- I don't know if you've noticed, but people are starting to get pretty close to where they are, in Europe. About illegal immigration.

Now, they're farther ahead than we are. Maybe a year's worth. But everything is fundamentally changing.

I mean, the people in Ireland, now think Ireland is over! Unless, they act right now.

Okay? It is really bad. But let me just show you some things here in America. Here's a Springfield resident, Springfield, Ohio.

About the new Haitian population. Which I think there were 53,000 residents, and they added 10,000, 15,000 Haitians into that. The city is collapsing, right? Listen to this resident.

VOICE: That's what they're used to though. They're in the park. Grabbing up decks, by their neck, and walking off with them, and eating them, like it's only going to get worse.

And y'all are sitting up there in these chairs. All y'all need to get out here and do something. Y'all are making hundreds of thousands of dollars. And y'all need to put on some T-shirt and some Crocks.

And then y'all need to come out here in these streets. And ugh. I'm out here before the police is.

Like, y'all need to do something, bro. Y'all really need to stand on business. Y'all are getting paid all this money, just to wear a suit and sit in a chair.

GLENN: Okay. That's a black man in an Ohio city councilman, saying, where are you? What are you doing?

Let me give another resident, same meeting. Listen to this. Cut six.

VOICE: I'm done with what I'm seeing. It's so unsafe in my neighborhood anymore. I have the homeless that are trying to camp out. And I've made concessions with them, and I've tried to help them as best I can, to keep them from trying to squat on my property. But it is so unsafe. I have men that cannot speak English, in my front yard, screaming at me, throwing mattresses in my front yard. Throwing trash in my front yard.

And I can't -- look at me. I weigh 95 pounds. I couldn't defend myself if I had to. My husband is elderly. And last night, after living in this home for 45 years, he said, Noelle, guess what. It's time to pack up and move.

He said, we can't do this anymore. He said, it's killing both of us mentally. I don't understand what you expect of both of us as citizens. I understand they're here under temporary protective status. You're protecting them.

And I understand that our city services are overwhelmed and understaffed. But who is protecting them. If we're protecting them. Who is protecting me. I want out of this town. I am sorry. Please, give me a reason to stay.

GLENN: Now, listen to her.

STU: Jeez.

GLENN: Now, she's obviously somebody who is not like I am, on illegal immigrants.

I want them sent back. She's saying, I understand we're protecting them. I understand we have to help them.

I don't understand that. But she does. She's coming from an entirely different place than I'm at. If somebody were putting, you know, mattresses on my front yard, I would be really pissed.

She's coming to them, and saying, please. Notice she also says, I don't know what you expect of us.

She's also somebody who has put herself as a -- as a servant of the government.

You know, I'm trying to do my part. I'm trying to help.

I know you're telling me we have to protect them.

So I'm trying to.

I don't know what you expect of us. No. Reverse that. If you're a right thinking American. You understand, you don't -- you're not here to serve them!

The leaders in our communities are put there, to serve us. To protect and defend us!

So there's two people just in this small town in, Ohio. Ohio is, you know, has been in the past, a bellwether, and also a swing state. Now, it's not probably a swing state this time.

But if these things are happening are in Ohio, you're going to see people, do one of two things.

One, stay at home, because they can't vote for Trump.

But they can't vote for this anymore.

Or two, they're going to go out and vote for Trump.

Let me give you another one.

This is a Chicago residents.

Resident.

This is from a Fox 32 Chicago report.

And they're talking about the Venezuelan migrants in their community.

Cut seven.

VOICE: I don't want them there.

Take them someplace else, or send them back to Venezuela. I don't care where they go. This is wrong! You've got 73 percent of the people homeless in this city.

VOICE: There were lots of fireworks. Over the migrants moving into Lakeshore hotel for six months, where 300 can be housed. Also, the city said, it is a fluent situation, and it will need to revisit that time line.

GLENN: Okay. So now you have people -- let me play another one.

Cut 12. This is another woman, talking to the city council in Chicago.

She's a black woman, listen to this.

VOICE: You know, hang those signs. About black people hating on immigrants. Because black people have no reason to hate on immigrants.

VOICE: Let me tell you something, you get those signs down. Any time that you're in Boston -- and Silverstein. And what's that?

Up here. And talk about how they have a hate crime. You know, because swastikas was in my bags, in that community.

They hung this in our communities. We want it off the polls. We want that to be the beginning of a hate crime.

And that organization, which is a white, liberal organization, like in the words of Malcolm X, who told us, that the white liberal is the worst enemy to the black man.

And you're coming up in here, acting like y'all are representing some social justice. All you're doing is trying to use black people, to try to make some money. Let me tell you y'all something here, we're done! The Democratic Party is done!

VOICE: Y'all going to abuse us. They'll abuse the black American.

VOICE: Clean it up.

GLENN: Okay. Stop. Do you see what's happening?

People in small cities, people in big cities, have had enough.

And if you're listening to her, what she's saying is, it's just not you and the city council.

It's Democrats!

You have betrayed us.

I think this is going to crystallize like crazy, by the time we get to the election.

I -- I just think, we are in for a -- something pretty amazing.

Listen, here's Kamala Harris in a barbershop this weekend.

Cut 29, please. Roist and we're talking about specifically, something that happens with black people so we have to be specifically targeting to help those people.

Because if we put those people in a position. And everybody knows this. He need understands it.

In America. America, you did this to these people. You should write laws for these people.

Don't -- don't group us in with everybody. Because everybody did not -- let's be fair. We waited.

We don't -- we actually write the law. Those of us who are willing and able to do work. Will do work.

GLENN: Okay. Stop.

So here she is, this a barbershop. Now, Cut 52.

Listen to Cut 52. Here she is, talking to Al Sharpton.

ALAN: Reparations of descendents of African descent.

If you were elected president, would you sign that bill, if you came across your desk?

VOICE: When I'm elected president, I will sign it.
(applauding)

GLENN: So why is she saying this? Why is she saying this?

She knows the black community is cratering on her. So now, we're going to sign reparations.

Well, how are we going to afford that and all of the things that we're paying for, with the illegals?

We can't!

Cloward and Piven.

Collapse the system. That's exactly what's happening.

Let me go to cut 48.

This is illegals. And the school buses in California.

Somewhere a group of migrants tried to board a school bus this morning, while it was traveling to a school.

The superintendent for the union school district, informed parents of that incident earlier today. It happened at one of the stops on the school district's bus route, that heads to Oak Grove Middle School and (inaudible) Primary.

Meanwhile, yesterday afternoon, in a similar area, along another route, the superintendent says that a group of migrants tried to stop another bus.

Border Patrol CHP and the sheriff's office have now been informed of these incidents. The superintendent says, that for the safety of everyone, if a driver sees a group of migrants at a bus stop, they will drive past it on -- and move on to the next.

GLENN: Stop. Hmm.

So if a bus driver is going to pick up your kid, at a bus stop, and he sees a bunch of illegals there, he's going to drive past, and let your kid leave them alone at the bus stop.

Oh, well, that's great. I feel good. I feel really good.

No. Seriously. Minute kids to ride the bus.

I want my kids waiting for the bus.

Sounds pretty safe! I'm telling you, the chickens are coming home to roost!

I'm telling you right now, if you get up and you vote and you bring everybody you know to vote, and you start talking about, are you seeing this?

What's happening in our community? What's happening in our schools.

What's happening in -- with illegal immigration. What's happening in the grocery store.

This will be a blowout.

Why Alan Dershowitz LEFT the Democrat Party after 70 years

Attorney Alan Dershowitz has been a Democrat for 70 years. He has only voted for Democratic presidents since JFK. But now, he no longer recognizes the Democratic Party. Dershowitz joins Glenn to explain why he left the Democrats behind to become an independent. After defending then-president Donald Trump in his impeachment trial, many Democrats distanced themselves from him. Since then, hatred of Israel and Jews has grown amongst their ranks, censorship has become the norm, and the Party has embraced the socialist leanings of Bernie Sanders and AOC. But Dershowitz tells Glenn that he’s not alone: liberals are fleeing the Democratic Party in droves! Dershowitz also comments on Republicans Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney’s endorsements of Kamala Harris and RFK Jr.’s endorsement of Donald Trump.

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law professor. Emeritus.

Host of the Dershow.

And Get Trump author.

He came out this weekend, joining his voice to many others.

Saying, I am not a Democrat anymore.

He's an independent. He's not saying he is going to vote for Trump. But there is a problem in the democratic party, as we've been pointing out for a while now.

They're not your grandfather's Democratic Party. Your father's. Even maybe your Democratic Party anymore. They're not. Dershowitz is joining us now. Alan, how are you, sir?

ALAN: Well, I'm feeling really good as an independent. I've been a Democrat for 70 years. I started supporting the Democratic Party, in the early 1950s, as a kid, who went around in a sound truck, supporting Phillip Shuffler. The Democratic candidate, the assemblyman in Brooklyn.

And I haven't voted for single non-Democrats for president, since -- since John Kennedy in 1960.

But like Ronald Reagan said, the Democratic Party has left me, by having people like Keith Ellison, who was a supporter of the reverend -- and the Reverend Sharpton, who conducted an anti-Semitic pogrom, in the Bronx and in Brooklyn back in the day. And AOC, who says that Israel is a genocidal state. And -- and -- and people like Bernie Sanders. That's not my party. I can't support a party like that.

I'm going to be independent. And I'm hoping maybe some day, the Democrats will come back to their roots.

But until then, don't count on my support.

GLENN: This is really earth-shattering, I think to some people.

And the minute I read this, Alan. I thought of your children and your wife.

Because I know, I know decisions that you make. Like decisions I make. Affect the whole family.

How -- how is that going?

ALAN: Yeah. Terrible. Terrible. My nephew wrote to me yesterday, and said, you're now to the right of -- and then he mentioned, some of the people who -- you know, the old Republicans.

Cheney and others who are now supporting Harris.

And my family -- every -- my family is a Democrat.

And most of my friends.

I don't have that many friends left.

Because I have supported Donald Trump's civil liberties. Even before I left the democratic party.

I'm a civil libertarian first.

And I hate what the Democrats have done to Donald Trump.

You know, that New York case. And --

GLENN: But you --

ALAN: I've been on his side of the legal issues for years now.

GLENN: But what they're doing on censorship overall is terrifying.

ALAN: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Really terrifying.

ALAN: Well, it's happening around the world. It's what's happening in England. They're putting people in jail for protests.

GLENN: I know.

ALAN: It's horrible. And they're applying a double standard on universities. You know, you can't say a word negative about protected minorities on college campuses.

But, you know, if you use the wrong pronoun, you'll get expended. But you can call Israel a genocidal country. And you can say, you know, Jews are destroying America. That's okay. That's first America protected speech.

And I don't mind that, as long as you apply the same standard to everybody. They're not. They're not.

They're applying a double standard.

GLENN: So, Alan, do you sense that this is more than just you?

ALAN: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I've gotten hundreds and hundreds of calls and emails, from people who say, you know, used to be Democrats. We still support a lot of the democratic platform.

On abortion rights and gay rights. But we can't be members of a party, for 50,000 -- or AOC. Or people like that. You know, the Republicans have their problem too, with Tucker Carlson.

He platformed recently a Holocaust denier. And he ought to be ashamed of himself for doing that. Neither party is perfect. But I think Republicans have done a better job of marginalizing their extremists than the Democrats have done.

GLENN: Well, I mean, you know, it's -- it's hard when Kamala came out, this weekend, saying, you know, I understand the Palestinians. Those who are standing up for the -- for Hamas.

Or the Palestinian cause.

I have sympathy for them.

And that's why Israel, they have to offer a two-state solution.

They don't want a two-state solution.

Israel has offered a two-state solution.

They don't want one.

ALAN: There isn't a single protester. I will give a thousand dollars to Hamas, if you can show me protesters, protesters who are calling for a two-state solution. What they're calling for is the end of Israel.

GLENN: River to the sea.

ALAN: What they're calling for is a victory of Hamas. What they're calling for is the end of Israel.

They're not calling for a two-state solution.

That's ridiculous.

And they're not even calling for a cease-fire.

Because Israel is agreeing to the cease-fire. Even the State Department says, it's all up to Hamas now.

Has a single protestor ever said, hey, Hamas, agree to a ceasefire, maybe then you can save some lives?

Nobody is calling for that. These are just calls for the end of Israel.

And they're calls for the end of America.

Recently, some of the protesters were burning American flags. And saying, our real goal is the destruction of America.

Because Israel is a surrogate for America. Why is there so much focus on Israel?

Is there any focus on Darfur and the Sudan, where people are literally dying of hunger and thirst? No! Because that has nothing to do with being anti-American. So it's all about anti-Americans.

GLENN: So when you left the democratic party, it's more than just their stance on Israel.

ALAN: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the whole movement to the hard left.

And look I'm a centrist Democrat. I'm a liberal. I'm an antiradical. I believe in civil liberties, and free speech. All the basic aspects of the Bill of Rights. And the Democrats aren't supporting that these days. To them, it's free speech for me, but not for thee.

GLENN: So Dick Cheney came out. Speaking of your nephew.

ALAN: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Dick Cheney came out this weekend and said, there's never been a bigger threat to the republic. Or I think he probably said the democracy. Than Donald Trump.

What do you make of that?

ALAN: I don't know.

You know, he was a pretty tough vice president.

And pretty aggressive in his support, of American policies.

I don't know that it has to do with -- I don't know what it has to do with his feeling that the Republicans haven't give up him enough deference.

He hasn't quit the Republican Party.

As far as I know, he's still a Republican. But he will still vote for Harris and against Trump.

I know people like that as well. And I know people on the other side.

This is an election that is very much about personalities. You know, I don't know very many people who will vote for anybody in this election.

I think there are a lot of people voting against a candidate. And they haven't decided against the candidate they are voting against yet. The American people really were entitled to a better choice.

GLENN: Yeah. So if you were -- if you were talking in front of a jury. Let's make America 12 men and women.

ALAN: Yeah.

GLENN: And you had to make a case, that the Democrats are actually a bigger threat, at least the way they're currently put together. How would you change -- how would you approach the jury?

ALAN: Well, I would approach the jury, by be looking at the facts. By seeing what the Democrats have done. How they've abused the rule of law.

How they're violating the First Amendment. The Fifth Amendment.

The -- the Sixth Amendment.

They're using lawfare. And politics.

They're distorting democracy.

And look, I don't like the fact that President Trump claims he won the last election. He didn't win the last election.

Although, I think a lot of people think he did. But I don't like the way the world. And the country. And the Democrats have reacted to that.

He has a free speech where I can make that position. He shouldn't have been indicted for any of the charges that he was indicted for.

And I think if you would have singled out one case, it's the New York case, against him.

Where they made up a crime.

Has done more damage to the rule of law. And to democracy. Than anything Donald Trump has done.

GLENN: Alan, thank you so much.

I --

ALAN: My pleasure.

GLENN: I feel for your family.

Because I know what it's like. I know.

ALAN: It's tough for them. It's tough for them.

But look, they have to buy the whole package. They know who I am.

I stand up for principle. And, you know, I put family first. But I put principle first too.

GLENN: Yeah.

ALAN: And mostly my family has been supportive. Not everybody in the family. But mostly my family has been supportive.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, you're probably feeling a lot like Robert F. Kennedy.

Jr.

Right now.

ALAN: Well, Bobby is an old friend of mine.

I've known him since he was a young man.

Of course, I've supported the Kennedys, right from the beginning.

I tell you a funny story about that. I was at a dinner party. And they see this Caroline Kennedy next to me, and she said, I know you were -- I wouldn't have come because you defended Donald Trump.

And I said, yeah, but I also defended Ted Kennedy.

That's how I first came to Martha's Vineyard. Defending Ted Kennedy at Chappaquiddick. Would you have walked on me, for that? Well, she had no answer.

GLENN: Huh. What do you think of Robert F. Kennedy joining the Trump thing?

ALAN: I'm not advised. I mean, they have a lot in common.

And, you know, he has very strong views. Some of which I agree with. Some of which I disagree with.

And he's a serious guy.

And I have to tell you, he's a great volleyball player. I've played against him a couple of times. My nose still hurts.

Into my face. But I like Bobby.

GLENN: Yeah.

ALAN: And, you know, I like his spiciness. I don't agree with all of his politics.

But he shouldn't be attacked by his family. He's an individual. He should be entitled to his own opinions.

GLENN: Alan Dershowitz. Appreciate it. Good to talk to you.