BLOGAugust 09, 2024

American Narratives artist highlight: Josh Clare

Born in 1982, Joshua grew up drawing and was rarely without a pencil and paper, but it wasn’t until he began studying art at Brigham Young University-Idaho that he began painting. That first oil painting class included a trip to the galleries in Jackson, Wyoming–his first visit to an art gallery or museum–and completely changed the course of his life. Since graduating with a Bachelor of Fine Art in illustration from BYU-I in 2007, Josh has been supporting himself and his family with art, and he thanks God every day for that remarkable blessing.

Josh has earned numerous awards along the way including “Artists Choice” at the 2012 Laguna Plein Air Invitational, and “2nd Place” in the Raymar 6th Annual Painting Competition. Early in 2014, Josh was featured for three consecutive months in several of the nation’s finest art magazines, Western Art & Architecture, Southwest Art, and Art of the West. He lives with his wife and five ridiculously cute children in Cache Valley, Utah.

Harvey Dunn, a Golden Age illustrator, taught his students that they should thank God every day for “the privilege of seeing the sun cast shadows.” Josh does just that.

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What MAHA Supporters MUST Know About IVF

President Trump has signed an executive order to look into ways to expand access to In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). IVF has become a very controversial issue among conservatives, especially since many pro-lifers view it as just as bad as abortion. So, what's the truth? Glenn believes that we must have this tough conversation NOW, so he invited fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ to make the case against expanding IVF access: "the reality of IVF is not what it is portrayed to be. For every 1 of those beautiful babies that's born, about 15 babies are killed." Plus, Liz arguest that Trump and RFK Jr. must look at the fertility crisis through the MAHA agenda.

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GLENN: I want to have a tough conversation with you. Because these are the things that we have to decide before we embed them in AI. We don't -- you know, we don't know our own morality.

What are we putting into AI? And this one is a very tough one. Yesterday, Trump signed an executive order to expand access to in vitro fertilization. IVF. That takes the egg of the mom and combines it with the sperm of the father, and puts it in a petri dish to create an embryo. A new life.

IVF re-creates the moment of conception, but in a lab. And it's a controversial process. Because at least those of us on the right. You know, we celebrate the creation of life. It's a miracle that a couple that can't have a child or struggling to conceive can. But on the other hand, a lot of the embryos created in the lab are discarded. And if you believe that life begins at conception, that means that you're throwing away, or worse, experimenting on new life. Liz Wheeler is here to take us through this maze. Hello, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: Hi, Glenn, thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet.

So, you know, I saw that -- you said, over 90 percent of the children created by IVF die, either left frozen or abandoned, destroyed due to eugenics, experimented on, or miscarried. Only 7 percent are born.

What is the real -- make an argument for somebody who may not believe the petri dish is the beginning of life. Can you?

LIZ: Yeah. I want to start by saying that this is such a gut-wrenching topic to talk about.

GLENN: Yes.

LIZ: Because every baby born, regardless of the circumstances of their conception. Is beautiful and worthy of dignity.

And has value. And should be celebrated. So all those beautiful babies that were created by IVF are not less though Because that was the circumstances of their conception.

GLENN: Correct. It's still a natural process.

It's just making it happen in a lab. But it's still the miracle of life when you put those two things together.

LIZ: Of course. Those children are still made in the image and dignity, the likeness of God.

I also am deeply empathetic, to women who -- couples -- married couples who are trying to conceive, and are struggling to conceive.

Before I had my first daughter, my eldest is 4 years old, I struggled to conceive for three years. And I lost a baby. And it's horrendous. It's the worst thing that's ever happened. And so I understand how emotionally fraught this topic is. Because if you're given this opportunity, you know, if IVF can fulfill this deep desire in your heart to have a baby, I fully empathize with that.

But all that being said, the reality of in vitro fertilization is not what it's portrayed to be.

Because for every one of those beautiful babies that are born, about 15 babies are killed. So it's not a pro-life endeavor to support in vitro fertilization. As a solution to the infertility crisis that we are suffering in this nation, and we are suffering an infertility crisis in this nation. We've never experienced a point in world history where one out of six, or one of seven women are struggling to conceive, where you have to make an active choice to try to have a baby versus just it happening, you know. Doing what comes naturally.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And my -- my argument against in vitro fertilization is a couple of things: First of all, it's anti-MAHA, right? One of the exciting things about the Trump administration is he chose Bobby Kennedy to partner with him, to actually investigate the root causes of the chronic health crisis in our nation. We're so excited about this.

I mean, thank you, President Trump for choosing Bobby Kennedy. Thank you, Bobby Kennedy for never giving up.

And for praying every day for this opportunity. But let's apply that same philosophy to the fertility crisis. Let's not just put a Band-Aid over this.

Let's go to the root cause and say, hey, why is women's fertility struggling right now? What could be causing that? Because that's not how it is supposed to be, and let's fix it.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. This is a really amazing stat. The rate of fertility in the United States dropped 3 percent in 2023 from 2022. From 2014 to 2020, the rate consistently decreased by 2 percent annually. There is something happening with our bodies.

LIZ: Deeply wrong. Yes, there is. I mean, it's the same thing. To be honest, it's the same thing that's happening with our children. We have Big Pharma and big food. And it's poisoning our bodies. It's disrupting our endocrine system. It's disrupting our hormones and resulting -- testosterone levels, sperm counts are falling.

Like, there are identifiable things, measurable things that are happening to our bodies. That we can reverse. If we stop letting big food and Big Pharma dictate.

That's where it gets back to IVF. So big Pharma, this is a cash cow off of Big Pharma. They make a ton of money off of in vitro fertilization. Which means, they are unwilling. Just like during COVID, when they were unwilling to say maybe hydroxychloroquine. Maybe ivermectin.

Don't know! They only wanted the vaccine because it profited them. It's similar to this.

They don't want to look at restorative fertility. They don't want to look at natural technology. They don't want to look at these other options that are healthier and more effective and more humane and more ethical because they don't profit from those things.

So then we get to some of these numbers here. And these numbers are really what break your heart. When you kind of zoom out and look at in vitro. So according to the CDC, just in the year 2021, there were 238,000 women who underwent IVF treatment, who underwent this procedure.

Now, every time that a woman undergoes this procedure anywhere. This is an unregulated industry.

So anywhere between five and 15 embryos are created. Multiple of those embryos are then implanted in the woman.

However, getting back into the statistic you started this segment with. Over 90 percent -- 93 percent of those never are -- they are not born live. They are either -- all 15 aren't implanted into the woman. Many of them will frozen.

They're, quote, unquote, screened for bad genetics, which is an epidemic. They look for characteristics that they might not want in the child. And then they destroy and experiment on those embryos. And because in vitro does not address a woman's hormones and fertility in her body. Oftentimes, she miscarries.

So the risk of miscarriage with in vitro is much, much, much higher than an ordinary pregnancy or restorative fertility.

So then you have this 238,000 women who underwent this. They have ten, seven, eight, ten embryos that were created. That's about one and a half to 2 million embryos created a year. And yet, in 2021, fewer than 100,000 babies were born from in vitro which means that anywhere between 1.5 and 1.8 embryos, which, Glenn, we know scientifically, spiritually, and ethically, human life was destroyed, discarded. Experimented, or remain in a freezer somewhere, you know, indefinitely. Which is more children are dying from in vitro than are dying from abortion in the United States of America.

GLENN: So this is absolutely heartbreaking.

Because, you know, my wife and I struggled. We adopted. And we struggled to have a child.

And, boy, when -- you know, when a woman wants to have a baby and can't, it just screws with your mind, so badly.

And it's heartbreaking, when a couple wants to have a child. And there's so many children that are being aborted.

And you're like, let me take them!

Please, let me take them. But this, when you say the pharmaceutical companies like this, because they're getting rich. The cost is between 12,000 to 25,000 per cycle!

And it takes several cycles, usually to take. So, you know, it's wildly expensive.

What does Trump mean when he says he wants to make it easier to access? Do you know?

LIZ: Well, that's the thing about this executive order. And President Trump is a very open-minded individual. One of my favorite things about him, actually besides how hilarious he is on Truth Social. Is that he listens to those who voted for him. I think this sets him apart from almost any other politician that I've ever known in my lifetime. The executive order is not entirely specific. It actually just requests a report on how to make in vitro fertilization more accessible. And so what I would encourage President Trump and his team to do.

What I would request from them, is, you know, think outside the box here.

Look at -- look at in vitro through the lens of make America healthy again. Say, wait a second.

We are here to DOGE the corruption that exists between government and, you know, Big Pharma or big food, or whatever. DEI programs. All this stuff that President Trump has Elon Musk doing that we're all delighted with.

Apply that philosophy to this on too. To make sure when you're looking at in vitro fertilization, you're looking at it through the lens of, hey! Is Big Pharma lying to women? Lying to families to profit themselves. Is this essentially that's actually harmful for our country? Because someone else wants to make money?

And, meanwhile, they're hiding from women, the fact that if you undergo in vitro, your child is more likely to have heart defects.

And, you know, physical deformities in addition to miscarrying. In addition to all of those innocent lives that are being -- that are being put on ice, quite literally, and being discarded.

And, Glenn, one of the things that really chills me when I talk about, or when I research IVF. When we're talking about it, is this genetic screening. These embryos are given ratings on a scale of one to ten. Is this healthy?

Is this not healthy? Do they have desirable characteristics.

To me, that's just -- if it's not eugenics right now. Which I would argue it is.

It's a road to eugenics.

Trump's executive order. I would encourage him to really focus on restorative reproductive health. Focus on natural technology. Focus on MAHA.

We can fix this crisis. We all want more babies. We all want the United States to have an incredible baby boom. I share that desire with them. I think it's wonderful that he wants to be pro-family. But let's do this right. Let's do this in a way that's never been done before.

GLENN: So where does Bobby Kennedy -- I mean, is this a passion point for him at all, on at least restorative health for the pregnancy rate?

JASON: One of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy is his cues. He's actually, he's often portrayed as an anti-vaxxer. He is so open-minded to wherever the data leads him.

And if he is presented with evidence that women's fertility. This is not how our body's were intended to work. We were intended to be very fertile.

And something that we're doing. Some intervention, environmental, food, Pharma, whatever it is, stress, technology.

This combination. This culmination. If something is not correct, then he wants to fix that.

GLENN: But it's not just happening here in America, it is happening all over the world.

LIZ: It is, yes.

And but what's interesting is the fertility crisis is happening in nations who have adopted more of a western mindset to medicine. Meaning Pharma and also food.

GLENN: Yes! Liz, thank you very much for taking us through this. If people want to get involved, how -- what would you suggest?

LIZ: I would suggest reaching out to President Trump. Get on X. Email. Call.

Make your voices heard. And if it's tough topics and emotionally fraught topics, there's a compassionate way to handle it. We obviously should handle this in a very compassionate way. But encourage President Trump to look at the reality of the IVF industry. Because at the end of the day. For every one life that is born. About 15 babies are killed in this process.

And we as a nation should not accept that morally.

GLENN: Liz, thank you very much. Love you. God bless. She is the author of hide your children.

She's also a Blaze TV host of the Liz Wheeler Show, which is -- she's really, really very smart and just really logical.

You can find it at BlazeTV, but also YouTube.com. @LizWheeler. And her Twitter is @Liz_Wheeler.

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How Trump Can PUNISH Trudeau Without Angering Canadians

"It's been a bumpy few weeks" for US-Canada relations, ‪@RebelNewsOnline‬ founder Ezra Levant tells Glenn. But do Canadians actually hate America after Trump's tariff announcement, his talk about making Canada the 51st state, and the brutal US-Canada hockey game? Ezra joins Glenn to give his perspective as a Trump-friendly, Trudeau-hating Canadian. Plus, he explains why "Justin Trudeau wants a trade war" in his last few weeks as Prime Minister and how Trump can punish Trudeau without hurting the Canadian people, and it all resolves around oil ...

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GLENN: All right. Let's go to Canada. And one of our good friends up in Canada.

Ezra Levant. Hello, Ezra, how are you?

EZRA: Hi, it's great to be on the show. You know, I love America. And I love Canada too. And I don't think I have to choose. And I also love Trump, by the way. So it's been a bumpy few weeks because Trump said, hey, Canada, we will have a problem, or we will slap you with tariffs.

GLENN: Yeah.

EZRA: And when you think of open borders. You think of the Mexican border, right?
And it's true, the vast majority numerically of the smuggling of people is on the Mexican side. But Canada is not perfect. And it's getting worse. There's actually more would-be terrorists that are nabbed on the Northern Border than the Mexican border.

GLENN: Yes, a lot of Chinese as well.

EZRA: Exactly.

And the cartels are active in Canada, including not just Mexican cartels. But, you know, there's big meth labs being found in Canada every week.

Here's the thing, if you look at the announcement that Trump made. This was back I think in November. He said, look, by the time I'm inaugurated on January 20. I want you, Mexico. And you, Canada. To basically do the preparatory work to seal the borders. Start working on it now.

Or else, I'll slap you with a tariff. So I think a grownup would say. He wants us to seal the borders. We should probably do that in our own interests anyway.

And he has. But let's just do the work. Because it's in our interest too. Trouble is, Trudeau said, no. I'm not going to seal the border.

I'm not going to crack down on illegal migrants and illegal drugs even if that's something we should do. I am going to focus on the "or else," and I will get into a sort of staring contest with an ally ten times bigger than us.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: And I've watched Trump's announcement. He wants the border fixed, the tariff is the "or else."

But here's the thing. And I don't know if Trump has really ever thought about this, because he's dealing with bigger fish.

Like, he's dealing with Ukraine. He's dealing with the economy and the fires in LA. And getting his nominees through the Senate. So he's dealing with huge things.

I don't think he's following the minutiae of Canadian politics.

Because let me tell you one thing I think Trump didn't count on here. Some master negotiator. And the thing about a negotiation, is, the other guy, you know, you've got to be willing to walk away. And you have to make it so the other guy sort of doesn't want to walk away, because his alternative is worse. Here's the thing about Trudeau, Glenn. In January, Justin Trudeau announced, he will resign. And that will take effect on March 9th. That's like three weeks from now. So Trudeau doesn't have the interest of getting a deal. He wants his final few weeks as Prime Minister to be, you know, an epic superhero coming to save Canada. He wants to be captain Canada fighting against the big, bad Trump.

He doesn't actually want a deal, Glenn. Because that's boring. And that looks like he's taking orders from Trump.

If he fights Trump. If he says, no, no, no. I don't want to spend a few billion on border security.

I want to get in a hundred billion-dollar trade war. See, Trump is not used to negotiating with a guy who actually wants to hurt himself. But why would Trudeau want that? Two reasons: Number one, to change the narrative. He's the Captain Canada, saving our country from the big bad -- we have Trump Derangement Syndrome here.

But number two, Trudeau has wrecked our economy through taxes and debt. And inflation. And cost of living. So if Trump actually does bring in punitive tariffs. Trudeau can say, uh-huh.

This is on Trump. Not me. I didn't wreck the economy. Trump did.

So Trump is dealing with a guy who is acting in bad faith.

Justin Trudeau wants a trade war. He wants our countries to fight.

GLENN: So let me ask you this. I've been watching the reaction of some Canadians. And they're like, we're not going to become the 51st state. Do you guys understand trolling. Donald Trump is calling Trudeau the governor of the 51st state to minimalize him. As a mock of Trudeau.

We're not -- we're not thinking about buying you. We're not offering to buy you. And we're certainly not buying troops up there to take you. Do the Canadians just not understand that?

EZRA: I think it's a combination. Because here's the thing, for the last ten years, Trudeau has tried to denature Canada. Our founding prime minister is named John A. McDonald's. John A. McDonald's, our version of George Washington.

He's on our 10-dollar bill. There's statues of him everywhere. Trudeau stripped him off the 10-dollar bill. Trudeau presided over his statues being knocked down. Trudeau has told us, that we are a country that committed genocide against Indian people. Trudeau calls us sexist. Racist. He says. He told the New York Times, we have no core values.

We're basically a hotel. So he has been -- he changes our national anthem. Who asked him to do that?

Like, he's doing all these things.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. He changed your national anthem from O Canada, to what?

EZRA: It's still O Canada, but he changed the words. He went on Anderson Cooper's show. And Anderson Cooper said, well, what's a Canadian? Okay. Well, that's a question you would expect the prime minister to answer.

He said, well, we're not Americans. That's not -- that's not an identity. That's sort of an attitude. And so he -- here's a guy who for ten years has derided what it means to be Canadian. He's given away citizenship to millions.

So I think Trump in his uncanny way, detected within Trudeau a bit of an inferiority complex. A bit of a weakness. That 51st state thing. That governor thing.

It actually stings, because Trudeau has spent ten years destroying our national identity. And Trump must have got that somehow. Because every time Trump says that, it actually hurts. Because we have spent ten years destroying what's made us Canada.

And Trump figured it out.

GLENN: Well, he's very good.

He's very good at knowing where people's weaknesses where R.

I think that's one of his -- one of his real skills in negotiating.

He knows what the other side is thinking. And what they're afraid of. Let me -- let me ask you this: Are we -- is this going to turn into something?

EZRA: Well, you know, there was some booing. There was a hockey game going on.

GLENN: Oh, no. We're very well aware of it.

EZRA: Some people are very startled. The idea of fighting with Americans is unthinkable.
Really, you almost can't tell the difference between a Canadian and American. Words like about.

GLENN: Right. How long you'll wait for health care. Yeah. There's just a few things.

EZRA: There are some differences, of course. But I can't think of two countries that are more similar.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: So the idea that we're in some battle with America, it's confusing. But here's the thing. Let me say a quick thing about the 51st state. You know how California, is this huge electoral college that always goes Democrat every time. Let me say this to my brothers in the United States.

You don't want another 41 million people who will vote Democrat.

GLENN: Oh, we've made that point. We've made that point. That's...

EZRA: I myself, would be a Trump supporter. And maybe the problems of Alberta, from where I am, would.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: And, by the way, I know you have some challenges from Spanish bilingualism. You know, it's French. Get ready for French to be spoken.

I'm just saying, you know, there are a few details. But let me tell you, what -- what actually matters.

I don't know if you know, but the -- our free trade agreement. That Trump renegotiated with Canada.

It will give us he went you want. We have 170 billion, with a B, barrels of oil in our oil sands.

And you have access to it. You have preferential access to it. And so when Trump talks about slapping that with a tariff. My phrase is, is it America first? You're the customer. You need to displace the conflict oil you're buying from OPEC. How about instead of slapping oil with the tariffs, that's just going to your refineries? We're the number one source of American oil under America. You make about half of your own oil in Texas and other places. But the other half, we're your number one source. Then comes Mexico and Saudi Arabia. How about replace that OPEC oil with more Canadian oil?

And I know Trump is a deal-maker. Art of the Deal. How about do a 50-year deal with Canada?
You could buy every one of those 170 barrels of oil. 170 billion.

And that would last you 50 years. You would be able to displace every foreign barrel of crude. $13 trillion deal. That's a bigger deal than Greenland. You have access to your oil. It's yours.
Most of the companies operating there, are American-owned. The Canadian companies are all listed on your stock changes.

You own the companies. American all the way down.

GLENN: Right. Right.

EZRA: And you don't want China to get access to that oil? China is poking around Canada's oil. What does China want? China wants to you push Canada away. Don't. Don't, don't do it. And I just, I think Trump is shooting at Trudeau, but hitting us. Don't do that. Look, I have a creative way to get back at Trudeau. But don't do it by attacking Canada.

GLENN: What's your creative way?

EZRA: Well, I'll tell you, I mentioned before that Justin Trudeau has said that Canada has committed a genocide against our native peoples. But he says that in the present tense. He says, we are committing a genocide.

Really? That sounds like a crime against humanity.

What about issuing an executive order saying, taking notice of Justin Trudeau's confession, that he's presiding against over a genocide, we hereby put sanctions on Justin Trudeau and his cabinet.

They may not enter the United States. They may not fly over our country. They may not do this. So just like Trump is doing with that international criminal court.

GLENN: Yes.

EZRA: They wanted to arrest Netanyahu. If you smack Justin Trudeau around, he loves going to New York. He goes down to New York and parties.

And he sort of does what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Trudeau loves going to America. If you took that away from him, Trudeau would be floored.

Go after Trudeau. You want to punish Trudeau, me too. I've got some ideas. But Canadians -- get all the oil you want. Let's be good friends. And, by the way, you do a 13 trillion-dollar deal to buy oil for 15 years. Now we have money to build up our own forces. And be our best buddies like we were on D-Day. But we were in Afghanistan.

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EMERGENCY PODCAST: Save ‘Baby Sparrow’ from the Taliban | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 246

A 5-year-old sits at the heart of an international controversy involving Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, the U.S. State Department, and even Hunter Biden’s law firm. In what Glenn describes as maybe his “most important” episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" yet, Stephanie and Joshua Mast detail the unbelievable story of rescuing an injured infant from the war in Afghanistan and their uphill battle to bring her safely to America during the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal under President Biden’s administration. Now, their 5-year-old daughter’s fate again hangs in the balance, and she is just days away from a Virginia court case that may change her life forever. The Mast family believes their daughter is the biological child of foreign fighters. If they’re correct, then her mere existence unravels the foundations of the peace agreement between the U.S. and Afghanistan, which stipulated that there were NO foreign fighters in Afghanistan. In a tangled web of motivations, Glenn is shocked by the possibility that the U.S. State Department may have placed a baby girl in the hands of people without any evidence of biological relations and with potential ties to the Taliban. The Masts make a public plea to the Trump administration to save their little girl from a custody battle with international implications but deeply personal ramifications for this little girl.

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The INCREDIBLE Story of How Biden Gave Trump the “Gift” of Mass Firings

Every government official who is fired by President Trump should blame Joe Biden, former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer tells Glenn. Spicer tells the incredible story of how Biden's "pettiness" led Spicer and Russ Vought to sue him in a case they didn't think they'd win. But they DID - and now, it has set the precedent that allows President Trump to fire anyone in his administration! This has since led to the reformation of the Kennedy Center and will allow Trump to make many of DOGE's recommendations a reality.

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GLENN: My friend Sean Spicer, how are you, sir?

SEAN: I'm fantastic. How are you?

GLENN: So good. So good. I don't want you to tell the end of the story yet. I want you for start at the beginning.

SEAN: No, no, no.

GLENN: What happened when you left the White House, and Biden took over as president?

SEAN: I'll take you one step further. So I stepped out as White House Press Secretary, and the president has always been kind and offered to appoint me to a couple of boards.

He appointed me to two of them!

One of them was the White House Commission by the Commissioner there. And then he also was kind enough to make me one of the -- his appointees to the board of visitors in the US Naval Academy.

So I was sworn into office. Joe Biden came into office. And so January 20th, myself and all of the White House commissioners at the -- resigned. And because it's a White House commission, and the new president has a right to have people for White House commissions. Fair enough.

GLENN: Sure.

SEAN: Well, September 1st, I get an email 2021, and it says, Spicer, thank you for your service on the US Naval Academy of visitors. By 6 o'clock tonight, will you submit your resignation, or will you be fired? And I thought, whoa. What?

Just for context. Remember, Glenn. September 1st, my term ended November 1st. Sixty days later. I was like, you couldn't wait 60 days, just to have it for free?

GLENN: Wow.

SEAN: So I was like, I've been sworn into office. My term was ended at that time. I wasn't going to get reappointed. Biden had his right to appoint his people, great.

So it turns out he fired everybody. Myself, from the Naval Academy board. Russ Vought from the Naval Academy board. And then a guy named McMaster from the West Point Board.

Who, by the way, H.R. McMaster, you remember, was the national security adviser to Trump.

Three-star Army general, who was a graduate at West Point as a distinguished professor at West Point.

And the Friday after that Tuesday email, was going to be honored at West Point as a distinguished alumni in their awards ceremony. So, anyway, he fires us September 1st. I don't resign. I said, I'm not resigning. You can fire me if you want. And then Steven Miller and America First came to me and said, we have an idea. I said, okay. What's the idea? We want to sue Biden. Now, Glenn, I'm not a lawyer. I said, guys, I watch a lot of Law and Order. How in God's earth if we sue the guy in September?

I mean, my term ends November 1st, we're never going to get back on the board. And they said, no, no, no. Let's go to court and make Joe Biden argue that he has the absolute authority to fire anybody. And because we're not going to win the case. They'll rule against this. And I thought, oh, this is brilliant.

So the only people. But here's the kicker. The only people who were running willing to put their name on that lawsuit performance myself. And Russ Vought. Of all the people who were so honored that President Trump had appointed them. And they went and they said, aw, thanks, we're busy.

So they became Spicer et al. It goes up to the court. The court says, the president has the absolute authority to that. We appeal the decision. It goes to the appeals level. And the court again, reaffirms the decision that Joe Biden and the president of the United States have the absolute authority to fire everyone. And the media started calling, Glenn, and said, you lost the case. And I said at the time, did I?

So Donald Trump gets elected, and this is where it gets really fun. You'll love this.

GLENN: Yes. And now you know the rest of the story.

SEAN: Yes. Thank you, Paul Harvey. So I read this story in the op-ed in the New York Post. Saying, hey, guess what? Spicer, Joe Biden has given President Trump the authority to fire anyone he wants. I hope that President Trump executes it, and the White House is tweeting, you know, sending me messages back after we just fired him, and I'm living this. Well, I write this piece for the New York Post. Explaining, hey. Here's what we did. Here's the legal basis. All these people who are about to get fired by Trump should thank President Biden for this.

Now, here's where it gets fun: The New York Post in the editing process says to me. Okay. Well, was it just the service academy?

They said, no, they had the right to fire them. They said, well, give us some examples. And so I got the list of commissions that the president can appoint too. There's like a couple hundred. And I start reading one of the editors.

I said, they can fire -- there's the battlefield commission. There's the Truman scholarship. There's the Kennedy senators.

Put that in the op-ed. People will identify with that. We went. We added a couple other examples to the op-ed.

So the op-ed gets published in the New York Post.

And it gets a lot of coverage. Whatever. And President Trump continues to fire people. And when they fire the board of the Kennedy center, the Washington Post calls -- you know, the spokesman for the Kennedy Center. And he says, are you going to be opposing President Trump firing you?

And on the record, the spokesman for the Kennedy Center says, we can't. Spicer v Biden sets the precedent for this. It gives the president the authority to do this.

Now, the here's the kicker. The Washington Post calls me. And says, what do you think about what the Kennedy Center thinks? Now, I have a hard enough time keeping up with President Trump.

I don't focus on what the Kennedy Center is saying.

I'm sorry. That's really not my thing. So I said, I don't know. And they go, are you serious?

You don't know that they just cited your case as the reason that they can't oppose or -- or object to what President Trump just did. I said, oh, my God. I'm glad to have played a small part in it. Later, the reporter calls me back and says, I went and read all of the court documents, and you're right.

And, of course, I'm -- yeah. I wasn't lying to you. And he said, I've got to write this big story. And I said, to my team at the time. My family. I was like, oh, my God.

This isn't going to go well. The Washington Post wants to write a story about Spicer v Biden, and why it's giving the president the authority.

And then I get a text. And it says, hey, we're putting the story up.

And I go, oh. These things don't end well for people like me and people like you. It's like getting a call from the IRS. It doesn't go well. Hey, I'm from the Washington Post, and I'm writing a story about Glenn Beck. Yeah, thank you.

GLENN: Yeah.

SEAN: So I click on the story. And I'm reading it, and I'm like, okay. Okay. Okay.

Like, when is the bad part coming? And the only part is -- I normally. You know, there's that phrase, Glenn. Where people say, they hate watch MSNBC or something. And I hate the comments. I had to do it. I had to do it.

I will not -- I will not read the Twitter replies or whatever. But I read the comments. And these snowflakes, they're so offended. They're like, Sean Spicer is an evil person for suing the president. I'm like, wait a second. You have to understand the context. Never in the history of the United States has any president ever removed somebody from a service academy board, prior to their term being done for anything less than malfeasance. And even that, we can't find an example. Never!

Joe Biden was so petty. And the point is, they're mad at me?

The comments, there's like thousands of comments when you click on the Washington Post story. I posted it on my social media story if someone wants to go read it. And I'm like, wait a second. You're mad at me.

They're like, I can't believe you did this. Wait. Wait. I did nothing. I literally had 60 days to go. Sure, I would have gotten some medallion from the Naval Academy.

Thanks for your service be on your way. And yet, here they are, like all these snowflakes putting comments in the Washington Post that like I'm the bad guy. Because why?

Because I stood up and said, hey. You want to argue that you have to do this?

Then give the future Republican president.

Now, at the time, myself and Russ Vought had no idea. President Trump hadn't even been declared for reelection yet.

But we thought to ourselves, hey. You know what. We'll stand up. I watch a lot of Law and Order. But that's my legal prowess here.

So the idea that this case now, which we fought at the time, hey, let's try it.

Has now become the basis for which President Trump can run around and say, hey, you're fired. Legit is amazing.

And the Post wrote in the story, that I was giddy. I think that's an understatement. I'm so ecstatic. Not just that President Trump can execute on this tragedy, and that it was Joe Biden that set the precedent and gave us this 50 was such, sweet, poetic justice.

GLENN: You know, whenever somebody tries to force their way. It never ends well.

SEAN: Think about this. They tried to deplatform Trump. They did it civilly and criminally. It backfired. Backfired.

Learn your lesson, folks. Like, to me, I get such a kick out of this because the dumdums keep thinking, if we just go after it one more time, and it works. And it doesn't.

GLENN: So what is the strategy now?
Do you think they have? What -- I mean, because none of this is working.

SEAN: No, I hope it continues. I mean, I just love the fact that it -- they double down on stupid. And they're like, what if we just try it one more time?

And I'm like, God bless you. But the idea that at some point, you know, you take -- I was -- you take the loss. And just say, let's regroup.

Let's retreat. He's not running again. Maybe we stop making it about him, and we think about what we're for.

I don't intend to give advice to the Democratic Party. But at some point, recognize that for ten years, you try to say that Donald Trump is the problem. We are going to come up against them, and it hasn't worked.

So maybe, just maybe you try to rethink this whole strategy. Look, I don't really care.
That's their problem. Not mine.

GLENN: I -- you know, I performed at the Kennedy center ten, 12, 15 years ago.

And it was like -- it almost took an act of Congress to make that happen. You can rent out the Kennedy Center and do whatever you want on there.

Well, they had a problem with me.

And they told me at the time, I was the first show ever done at the Kennedy Center that displayed the American flag on stage.

I found that incredible.

But I don't care what happens at the Kennedy Center. It doesn't matter to me.

But the left is freaking out. They're just freaking out!

SEAN: See, here's the thing. There's a bigger arc, that I think is taking place. In the first term, we were somewhat apologetic. Remember, just think about this. And remember, the Kennedy Center is just one thing. So the president can keep firing everybody. But in 2017, we came into office. The Kennedy Center honors, right? Which was supposed to be this annual thing. And they celebrate each other. They said, we won't come if Trump shows up.

So Trump was actually magnanimous. And said, you know what, you guys go on. Have your event, I won't go. And I think there was a lot of feeling around. And trying to understand.

And like I said, it was -- it was just -- it was new. What do we do?

How do we approach this? This term, he says, screw it. You're all fired.

I'm taking over the board. I'm in charge.

And I love this.

This idea that we have learned. And this what I mean about the arc. it means, don't be afraid. Don't be apologetic. Fight! Go out there. Why are we ceding ground and pretending to be better? Why is it that Glenn beck is the only person that puts an American flag on it?

Why aren't we saying, you know what, let's bring in more people that do that. Let's be proud. Let's be patriotic.

Let's use this institution to celebrate America.

What I don't understand.

Like, the mentality is so different now.

Let's fight. Let's do this.

GLENN: I think it's -- I think it's absolutely fantastic. I thank you for what you did. And, you know, the only thing that would make it better is if you or I were on the board of the Kennedy Center and we could announce that Lee Greenwood's residency was taking place at the Kennedy Center.

SEAN: Now that you know, that definitely won't be the last time we hear that.

We may be meeting for presidency, of like several other country artists.

GLENN: It would be fantastic.

Thank you so much, I appreciate it. Sean Spicer.

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