BLOGOctober 20, 2017

‘I Thought … That Was Sacred’: Don’t Miss John Kelly’s Response to Gold Star Controversy

What happened?

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly became emotional during his response to a congresswoman’s characterization of remarks between President Donald Trump and an Army widow.

Kelly defended Trump against Rep. Frederica Wilson, who reportedly listened in on a confidential phone call between the president and the widow of an American soldier killed in Niger and then talked about it to the press.

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What did he say?

Kelly slammed Wilson as an example of our society’s scorn for the things that truly matter.

“I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or a woman to die on the battlefield … that might be sacred,” Kelly said.

Glenn’s take:

Glenn praised Kelly’s “emotional and genuine” response on today’s show: “If anyone has something to say of substance here, it’s Kelly. He has lived this nightmare when his son was killed.”

This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.

GLENN: Is nothing sacred in this country anymore? Anything?

Representative Frederica Wilson's politicizing of a phone call between President Trump and a Gold Star mom is disgusting.

But if you heard General Kelly yesterday respond, you heard him ask much deeper questions than I've heard from anyone else.

VOICE: And I thought at least that was sacred. You know, as a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred. Looked upon with great honor. That's obviously not the case anymore, as we've seen from recent cases. Life. The dignity of life is sacred. That's gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well. Gold star families, I think that left in the convention over the summer.

I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.

GLENN: I listened to the whole thing. We're going to play his whole speech here later on in the broadcast. I don't think I've seen anything this emotional and just this genuine from anyone in, I don't know how long.

If anyone has something to say of substance here, it's Kelly. He has lived this nightmare, when his son was killed. Every American should listen to Kelly's, you know, talking when what happens when our soldiers fall in combat. How he walked after this -- this debate started. How he took an hour and a half and just walked Arlington cemetery. And how he looked for the names that he had ordered, to do something, that put them in the ground.

What made this so devastating was knowing that as he was describing in detail how a slain soldier is packed in ice and then laid in his coffin, he was visualizing his own memories, his own son, his own pain.

He told the president that because of the pain involved, there's really no good way to talk about say soldier dying in combat to the family. But to Trump's credit, he tried anyway.

Now, what does that say for the state of our country, that someone was waiting to turn this into a political advantage? What is happening to us?

Shame on Wilson. And anyone else that's trying to score a win from this. To prompt a man that has lost a son in combat, to explain how this works, is insult on injury.

And all of it because of politics. You can -- I can guarantee you, that as he was walking through articulating cemetery, he was thinking, why am I serving? What am I serving? Who am I serving anymore?

What country -- what does it even stand for? One side may have started it, but we're both engaged in it now. And we have to stop it.

Kelly deserves better than this. Gold star families deserve better than this. Our country deserves better than this. You deserve better than this.

Truly, is nothing sacred in this country anymore?

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Why Trump's free speech plan is the "MOST AMAZING" Glenn has ever heard

Donald Trump has released a video explaining his plan to "shatter the left-wing censorship regime" and it's "the most amazing thing" Glenn has heard "any president ever say." Trump promised to stop government officials from colluding with private companies to censor legal speech, clear the bureaucracy of people who had done so, push for a "digital bill of rights," reform Section 230, and do much more. Glenn and Stu discuss this long, detailed list and also review a few concerns they have, which Trump must address very carefully.

Transcript

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GLENN: Stu, this is like constitutional porn. I just want to warn you. I just want to warn you, you might hear some sexy music, in your own head. You might be like, oh, yeah. Ding-dong, pizza delivery

You might hear that.

This is the most amazing thing I have heard any president ever say. This is Donald Trump.

STU: Wow. That's quite a standard.

GLENN: Just, I want you to make a list. Okay.

When he says, oh. And I'm going to do this.

Just make a list. Okay?

This is his plan to end the censorship cartel.

DONALD: We don't have free speech, then we just don't have a free country. It's as simple as that. If this most if you then right is allowed to perish. Then the rest of our rights and liberties will topple, just like dominoes, one by one.

They will go down. That's why, today, I'm announcing my plan to shatter the left-wing censorship regime. And to reclaim the right to free speech for all Americans.

And reclaim is a very important word in this case, because they've taken it away.

In recent weeks, bombshell reports have confirmed that a sinister group of Deep State bureaucrats, Silicon Valley tyrants, left-wing activists, and depraved corporate news media have been conspiring to manipulate and silence the American people.

They have collaborated to suppress vital information on everything from elections to public health.

Censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed.

And it must happen immediately.

And here's my plan.

GLENN: Here we go.

DONALD: First, within hours of my inauguration, I will sign an executive order, banning any federal department or agency, from colluding with any organization, business, or person, to censor, limit, categorize, or impede the lawful speech of American citizens.

I will then ban federal money from being used to label domestic speech as mis or disinformation. And I will begin the process of identifying and firing every federal bureaucrat who has engaged in domestic censorship, directly or indirectly, with whether they are the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Health, Human Services, the FBI, the DOJ. No matter who they are.

Second, I will order the Department of Justice to investigate all parties involved in the new unlined censorship regime, which is absolutely destructive and terrible. And to aggressively prosecute any and all crimes identified.

These include possible violations of federal civil rights law, campaign finance laws, federal election law, securities law, and anti-trust laws. The Hatch Act. And a host of other potential criminal, civil, regulatory, and constitutional offenses.

To assist in these efforts, I am urging House Republicans, to immediately send preservation letters. We have to do this, right now.

To the Biden administration, the Biden campaign, and every Silicon Valley tech giant. Ordering them not to destroy evidence of censorship.

Third, upon my inauguration as president, I will ask Congress to send a bill to my desk, rerising Section 230.

To get big online platforms out of censorship business. From now on, digital platform should only qualify for immunity protection under Section 230.

If they mean high standards of neutrality, transparency, fairness, and nondiscrimination.

We should require these platforms to increase their efforts to take down unlawful content, such as child exploitation and promoting terrorism, while dramatically curtailing their power to arbitrarily restrict lawful speech. Fourth, we should break up the entire toxic censorship industry that has arisen under the false guise of tackling so-called mis and disinformation.

The federal government should immediately stop funding all nonprofits and academic programs, that support this authoritarian project.

If any US university is discovered to have engaged in censorship activities, or election interferences in the past, such as flagging social media content for removal of blacklisting. Those universities should lose federal research dollars and federal student loan support for a period of five years, and maybe more.

We should also enact new laws, laying out clear criminal penalties for federal bureaucrats, who partner with private entities to do an end run with the Constitution.

And to deprive Americans of their First, Fourth, and Fifth Amendment rights. In other words, deprive them of their vote!

And once you lose those elections, and once you lose your voters like we have, you no longer have a country.

Furthermore, to confront the problems of major platforms being infiltrated. By legions of former Deep Staters.

And intelligence officials.

There should be a seven-year calling off period, before any employee of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI, DHS, or DOD is allowed to take a job, at a company, possessing vast quantities of US data.

Fifth, the time has finally come for Congress to pass a digital Bill of Rights.

This should include a right to digital due process. In other words, government officials should need a court order to take town online content. Not send information requests such as the FBI was sending to Twitter.

Furthermore, when uses of big online platforms after the content or accounts removed. Throttled. Shadow banned or otherwise restricted.

No matter what name they used. They should have the right to be informed, that it's happening. The right to a specific explanation, of the reason why.

And the right to a timely appeal. In addition, all users over the age of 18 should have the right to opt out of content moderation and curation entirely.

And receive an unmanipulated stream of information. If they so choose.

The fight for free speech is a matter of victory or death for America and for the survival of Western civilization itself.

When I'm president, this whole rotten system of censorship and information control, will be ripped out of the system at large. There won't be anything left. By restoring free speech, we will begin to reclaim our democracy and save our nation.

Thank you, and God bless America.

GLENN: Wow!

STU: I mean, that is -- first thing that strikes me on that, is just how different it was than 2016. That is not a guy who is just walking in. I don't know. Who should we pick?

Like, that is somebody who has a plan.

GLENN: No. That's one of the exciting things is.

This is so detailed. Even what he just said -- you know there's much more than this behind each one of these. And so much thought behind all of this.

This is a guy who has sat there for at least the last two years. Probably the last four years. Going, all right.

I'll get a second chance.

What do we do? What do we do?

This is the most comprehensive thing I've ever heard a Republican president, ever lay out.

Now, the Democrats do it. But usually they do it in about a bill of 3,000 pages. And you just don't find out, until after the happy meal bill.

You know, and you're like, wait. Is this for Happy Meals?

STU: The Inflation Reduction Act?

GLENN: Yeah. Kind of like that.

I mean, look at the list.

STU: Yeah. There is a lot in there.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

STU: Going after the federal employees colluding to censor speech.

GLENN: And put them jail.

STU: Taking the federal money. And away from people who are kind of walking that line, and drawing our guardrails on mis and disinformation.

GLENN: That's that -- that's that -- what was the name of that organization over in England, that we helped start? Over all the people -- all the people that were involved in that, buh-bye.

STU: And I think a lot of the people on the left and the media take it as, oh, he just wants to be able to say conspiracy theories and not fact-checked. And that's just not -- the truth is, the federal government should have no role in that.

You want to have a media organization -- that's not going to stop ABC News from doing misinformation reporting, as dumb as it might be. It will just stop federal money going to that process, which is totally appropriate for a country which has a 14th amendment. Prosecuting crimes that happened. I'm sure, this is punishing enemies.

But in a reality, if you commit a crime, it's supposed to be --

GLENN: Yes, and this is a constitutional crime. Government getting involved in freedom of speech. That's a constitutional crime.

STU: And sending preservation letters, so that these suites can go forward. So they're not clearing out and deleting all these files now, before he gets into office.

That's tough, and by the way, not something he can do personally. That's going to be something Sanders --

GLENN: No. That's why he said, they have to send that right away.

STU: Look, all of this is I think good.

Is there any part in there, that makes you at all nervous?

There's a couple of points in there that I could see going the wrong way, if we're not careful. Which is rewriting Section 230.

GLENN: Yes. That could be dicey.

STU: That could be -- there's nothing wrong with rewriting Section 230. But you just have to -- you have to be careful with it.

GLENN: What he said is --

STU: I think what he said --

GLENN: -- as long as you have quality --

STU: High standards of neutrality.

GLENN: Yeah. High standards of neutrality. You have to qualify for that. And you should -- you should ban things that are illegal. You know, child porn, terrorism. Things like that.

STU: Of course. And that is theoretically already there. But we have really loose standards on these companies for enforcing it.

It's basically like, if you get multiple requests to take some material down, and you don't, you could be in trouble.

Generally speaking, they are -- they don't have to take action to go get the stuff. They have to just wait for it to be reported to them, and then they have to do it after that process. But the process of course is really weak.

You have millions and millions and millions of posts going up. They would argue, that it's impossible to get to all of it. Oh, well.

Oh, well. Oh, no. Maybe you don't get to be as large a company. Maybe -- you know, look, my fantasy, of course, here is, maybe this doesn't work within the law.

And the social media companies just go away. That would be tragic. That would be terrible.

GLENN: It would be.

STU: Now, of course, Zoren. Max Zoren. Zoren Industries, if you go back to A View to A Kill, the documentary from 1985 --

GLENN: Right. I believe that was a James Bond movie.

STU: Actually, he advocated for explosives under the earth that would cause an earthquake that would flood all of Silicon Valley.

He must get to that. Unfortunately. I was waiting for it, one of the action steps.

Didn't quite get there.

Maybe that's step seven.

We'll get there eventually.

GLENN: The digital Bill of Rights is so important.

STU: Yeah. That's interesting.

GLENN: What's interesting about that, you have a right to go without an algorithm. Love that.

STU: And it's interesting because the -- Europe has a digital Bill of Rights.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: I would assume it won't look much like the Trump one.

GLENN: No. I don't think so.

STU: First of all, there's some similarities there. You own your own data.

That's the concept between the European one. Some of those concepts, you could say are good. And I'm sure will be brought over.

Also, just the idea, that you don't have to be manipulated by this.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Now. It's tough.

Because you should be able to run a website, that you own. Right?

TheBlaze should not need to go neutral. And give all sorts of information from the left. Right?

We should be able to do what we want to do with our own website.

Now, there's that distinction between publisher, and sort of cure rater.

Social network, that I think will probably be the line there. Again, the details matter on this stuff.

As we've seen over and over and over again.

If you don't get that exactly right. It could be a problem. But, you know, that's what the process will be for.

GLENN: First of all, you're in public square now.

STU: I --

GLENN: I know.

STU: I hate the public square argument.

GLENN: I know, but it's digital now.

STU: I know.

GLENN: Nobody gets on their soapbox and we're walking in our town square. And you see somebody stand and up say, I want to give a speech.

STU: Well, if you want a town square, then it's like, then make a town square. These are companies that have spent their own money on this stuff. I just feel like they should be -- look, there's a lot here, that I understand. And I think is a good thing. Making essentially, just turning giant private companies into utilities -- I mean, should Elon Musk have to deal with all that?

If he -- he bought the company. When is the next -- the next government -- the next time the Democrats get in control, and they take this public square and make their own rules with it. It makes me really nervous. I get what he's saying.

I think the -- I think we'll be able to walk this line. But let's be honest that we have to walk a line here and just be careful here.

GLENN: I agree with that. But you have things like an algorithm. You have a right to unmask. I don't have a right to necessarily know their algorithm.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: But I do have a right to say, you know what, I don't want you filtering stuff.

Why don't you have a right to do that.

STU: This is the sort of thing that they should have just done.

It wouldn't have been an issue, if they just did it.

It would have been easy. They should have just had an off button. But they couldn't bring themselves to do that. Because they wanted, A, money and, B, to control the public opinion.

GLENN: Correct. How many people will have their eyes be opened if you have that, and say, just unmask it. Just unmask it for a week. See what you see. It would be pretty amazing.

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5 GAME CHANGING moves Trump could make in his second presidential term

Glenn and Stu discuss what they’re most excited to see in a second Trump term. Will Trump have BOTH the House and Senate so he doesn’t have to rely on executive orders? Will Elon Musk be able to clean out the bureaucracy? Can Trump lower the income tax or abolish the 16th Amendment altogether? Will his tariff plan work? Will he be able to reduce the government’s spending? Will we finally see term limits for members of Congress?

Transcript

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GLENN: So, Stu, are you -- are you almost giddy at what is possibly coming?

STU: Yeah!

I think I'm really -- I'm excited. I was trying to think of what I'm most excited about. Because there's a good chance the Republicans get the House.

And, by the way, this is going to be close.

GLENN: Don't toy with my feelings here, Stu.

STU: Yeah. I was interested. Because there's so -- I think this is the right thing to feel.

But there's very little panic over the house. I think the Republicans will get it. But if you think about like, the shenanigans that have better than been worried about over the years.

GLENN: I don't know if it was shenanigans.

STU: Yeah. I was going to go a different direction.

The shenanigans that we have been worried about over the years. It would be a heck of a lot easier to steal this election. Than anything else that you could possibly imagine.

We will be completely dependent on California districts that take two weeks to count. That is legitimately what the House comes down to.

The fact that we're not freaked out about that. Is good.

Maybe that means, at the end of the day, whatever problems we have had before, have been solved.

At the end of the day, we are looking at a very close, 220, maybe 221, if we're lucky, in the House.

It will be in that general vicinity. Markets say, it's a 93 percent chance that Republicans will get the House. Not 100.

So that's still out there.

But if you are able to get that. I was thinking, what does that mean?

You will have 53 senators, at least. McCormick, by the way, even though some places haven't called that race. McCormick will get that race in Pennsylvania.

You still have two possibilities. Kari Lake in Arizona and Sam Brown in Nevada, that are possible.

I would say probably less than 50 percent on those. But 53 isn't 50 or 51. So you've got a little bit of a cushion there.

The more cushion you have --

GLENN: You just have enough for Murkowski and Collins.

STU: Right. And Collins. You at least you have that going for you, which is nice.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And the more cushion you have, the better bill you can get out of let's say reconciliation, to keep it nerdy as possible.

You will get one bill, basically, that is going to give you, that will pass with 50 votes.

This is how Donald Trump passed the tax break package. He passed back in his first term. And we may very well get a good tax break package.

It may be really good, you know, maybe he gets even more aggressive. Because, remember, that was sort of an off-the-shelf government proposal, largely, that they passed in 2017. So maybe we'll get something even better.

But honestly, I was thinking about. That's not what I'm most excited about. I think what I might be most excited about is the prospect of Elon Musk coming in and identifying places to come.

GLENN: Oh. Me too.

STU: Like, there's something about that. Because that is really his -- all of his brilliance.

We all know the guy is a genius.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But of all his brilliance, that is what you take most away from what he was able to bring to all of the companies.

Sometimes, it's even presented as soulless and heartless. Right?

He just comes in, and he has no care. We don't need --

GLENN: Hang on just a second. It's a company.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, it's not a charity. It's a company.

STU: Agreed.

GLENN: And look at how many people this heartless bastard cut from Twitter.

Well, it's doing better than it ever has. You know, you might have your complaints here or there. But I believe X saved the republic.

I wonder if it wasn't for Elon Musk, buying Twitter. If we would have won.

STU: I think that's very true.

I think remember, when you say it's doing better than it ever has done. You can definitely look at financial measures that do not agree with that comment. However, that's not what his goal was.

What was his goal? His goal was to allow people to speak freely?

And it was an expensive genre, into that world.

I mean, you know, but it was worth it, I think. And it was something -- he was protecting the First Amendment. And I didn't mean to say it in a negative way. When I said heartless and soulless, that was how it was portrayed by many.

GLENN: That's how it was spun many times.

STU: Yeah. And there are plenty stories of him being tough on employees. Maybe too tough on certain employees.

But that attitude, 100 percent is necessary in the federal government.

Whatever he thought was waste, at Tesla, or SpaceX, or Twitter, is nothing compared to the burden we all carry with incompetent employees and complete waste. And nonsensical programs, that accomplish nothing.

We all carry that burden.

And if Donald Trump empowers him, and he wants to take this on, as they talked about in the campaign. I feel like, it's one of those things we could actually see a real difference made.

Not just a little, hey, we should get 4 percent off of this rate, which I will cheer on.

I will be happy with tax rates going down.

But like, that's something I think that could really change the country in a positive direction.

GLENN: So I want you to bring your best hat, your best thinking cap on Monday.

Because I scheduled a -- an economist, who said, the way that Donald Trump is thinking about -- thinking about tariffs, would mean an 18 thousand dollar raise for everybody.

And could actually work to pay our -- to pay our -- you know, our bills every month. And now, I don't know.

I haven't heard the full argument. But I just want to hear it. Because if we can cut back our spending, so it's fairly reasonable.

And we're still, you know, providing a safety net and everything else.

I am very interested in rebuilding our industries. Rebuilding our factories. And -- and actually motivating people, to go to work.

And -- and learn a real skill, and start making things here in America. And having pride in that.

STU: Yeah, for sure.

GLENN: And I think, for the first time, I think if I can -- if I can get somebody to tell me all of the metrics and the numbers. Because I -- you know, the numbers have to. They have to work out.

But that to me, is thrilling.

Even if you went to a 5 percent income tax. I would rather abolish it.

But if you did something track. You imagine the money that would open up. That could be invested in job creation.

New businesses. Can you imagine what would happen in a country, where we didn't have income tax?

STU: I -- look, the -- there is a three-pronged approach, right?

That he's talked about. One is raising tariffs. One is -- as you mentioned, getting rid of the income tax.

And a third would be cutting the government down level to levels. You know, roughly, you of course adjust for inflation, and you adjust for population growth and all these things.

But roughly to the 1800s. As he talked about 1880s.

GLENN: Or 1920s. Calvin Coolidge did this.

STU: Calvin Coolidge did this as well. He was more friendly to tariffs.

Even though, it's not my favorite policy. But he's one of my favorite presidents.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But, you know, those three things are, if you could do all three of those together. It adjusts the country in a way that is so dramatic.

It would probably be do a lot of really positive things.

GLENN: Yeah. Like 5 percent growth.

Like 5 percent growth a year.

That's -- that puts us into the -- when China was doing well kind of growth.

STU: And I think we can get locked into the sort of fantasy league here.

GLENN: I like to.

I've been doomsday for a long time.

STU: Hey. This is the right time to do it. He just won. What can we do here?

The issue with these policies together is one of them is really easy to do, which is raise tariffs. Donald Trump can do that just on his own.
The other two are nearly impossible.

I mean, get over -- and I'm not -- I have literally sold mugs at StuDoesMerch.com. That's a repeal the 16th Amendment. So 100 percent, this should be our goal.

But you're right. Like there might be a modified version of this that makes sense. If you can control spending, if you can cut some, and you can lower the income tax, a great deal, and replace some of that income with tariffs.

I don't think that that would be the type of situation, that would be horrible.

I don't -- I mean, we do forget at times, we are the second largest manufacturing country in the world.

We do make a lot of things here.

GLENN: I know. I do.

STU: And a lot of times, those measures I think are a little bit out of whack. That being said, I'm happy to trade.

I'll trade getting rid of the income tax for a lot.

There's a lot of stuff I'm willing to deal with on the policy front, if we could get a win like that. And why not go for it?

Why not?

GLENN: I know.

I mean, he's the guy who could do it.

Donald Trump is the guy who could do it.

He could get that constitutional amendment passed on the -- the term limits, on Congress. I think he could get that passed.

If he backed it, he could get it passed.

If he wanted to repeal the 16th amendment, with another constitutional amendment, and he really laid it out.

Here's what this would mean for you. I -- think the numbers are so staggering, that who wouldn't be for that?

STU: Well, certainly. Constitutional amendments are difficult.

Because you need the other side involved in them.

That makes them -- I mean, there are other approaches.

But you know how hard it is. It's hard. We've done it 27 times, in a couple hundred years. And most of them are at the beginning.

It's really hard to do. And it should be hard to do, by the way. That's a change that I would absolutely love.

Term limits are one. Term limits, I would say, are arguably more interesting, from a pragmatic doable circumstance.

This is a really popular policy.

People can't stand the fact that Nancy Pelosi just won her 20th term in Congress.

20 terms in Congress. People don't like that. They don't like it on Republicans or Democrats. You're talking about 80 percent approval numbers for a proposal like that. And I think Trump also looks at it and says, you know what, good chance, you know what, if I ran again, I would win.

I'm limited. Why aren't you? I think he looks at that as a general idea of fairness, why is the president limited for -- to two terms, when they are -- when senators get to go for two -- multiple six-year terms. Congressmen can go forever, with two-year terms.

Why not make it so there are limits across-the-board?

GLENN: Wouldn't it be amazing if the last time they put term limits on was through Congress. Because they saw how out of control FDR was.

And it was the Democrats that led that, and thought, we can't. We can't have that. We can't that have.

And now, to come back after Congress has done nothing. And our government is -- is out of control. Like it was at the beginning of FDR, and through Woodrow Wilson.

To have now the president come back and say, all right. Let's finish that job.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: The progressives always take people's breath away. They always go too far. And they hit a point to where you're like, oh, my gosh.

That is like, oh, what are we doing here? And they've done it again.

STU: You notice that, when you see people with bulging in their swimming suits winning gold medals.

GLENN: Yeah. For the women's.

STU: For the women's swimming events. Yeah, no. I mean, I think that's true.

You can get something like term limits.

I think there's very, very limited opposition to Donald Trump, for what he makes a priority from the Republicans. So when you're talking about laws, you're not going to get much pushback from Republicans on this stuff. I think, you know, when you get into constitutional amendments, it becomes much more difficult.

But it's all a matter of what Donald Trump prioritizes. If you remember 2016 and 2017, he also ran on a proposal to -- to do term limits.

He just never made it a huge priority.

He would mention it in speeches. This time, I think he's serious about it. In his first -- that speech we played earlier. The first ten things he wants to do.

GLENN: If you haven't heard it. Oh, it's so great.

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Will Trump’s 10-point plan to DISMANTLE the Deep State work?

Donald Trump has released a 10-point plan to dismantle the Deep State during his second presidential term and Glenn can’t see how anyone can be against it. Glenn reviews the plan and how it should unite America. Glenn and Stu also discuss some possible moves Trump should make to troll the media and the Left …

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me go to Trump, announcing his ten-step plan to dismantle the Deep State. Listen to this. If you haven't heard it, you will love this.

DONALD: Here's my plan to dismantle the Deep State and reclaim our democracy from Washington corruption, once and for all. And corruption it is. First, I will immediately reissue my 2020 executive order restoring the president's authority to remove rogue bureaucrats. And I will wield that power very aggressively. Second, we will clean out all the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus. And there are plenty of them.

The departments and agencies, that have been weaponized will be completely overhauled, so that faceless bureaucrats will never again be able to target and persecute conservatives, Christians, or the left's political enemies, which they're doing now at a level that nobody can believe even possible.

Third, we will totally reform FISA courts, which are so corrupt, that the judges seemingly do not care whether they are lied to in warrant applications. So many judges have seen so many applications, that they know were wrong, or at least they must have known. They do nothing about it. They're lied to.

Fourth, to expose the hoaxes and abuses of power, that have been tearing our country apart. We will establish a truth and reconciliation commission, to declassify and publish all documents on Deep State spying, censorship, and corruption. And there are plenty of them.

Fifth, we will launch a major crackdown government leakers who collude with the fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and to subvert our government and our democracy.

When possible, we will press criminal charges.

Sixth, we will make every inspector general's office independent and physically separated from the departments they oversee, so that they do not become the protectors of the Deep State.

Seventh, I will ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor our intelligence agencies, to ensure, they are not spying on our citizens, or running disinformation campaigns against the American people. Or that they're not spying on someone's campaign, like they spied on my campaign.

Eighth, we will continue the effort, launched by the Trump administration, to move parts of the sprawling federal bureaucracy, to new locations, outside the Washington swamp.

Just as I moved the Bureau of Land Management to Colorado, as many as 100 thousand government positions, could be moved out. And I mean, immediately, of Washington, to places filled with patriots, who love America. And they really do love America.

Ninth, I will work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs, at the companies they deal with.

That they regulate. So they deal with these companies. Or they regulate these companies. Then they want to take jobs from these companies.

Doesn't work that way. Such a public display, cannot go on. And it's taking place all the time, like with Big Pharma. Finally, I will push a constitutional amendment, to oppose term limits on members of Congress. This is how I will shatter the Deep State, and restore a government that is controlled by the people and for the people. Thank you very much.

GLENN: I just -- now, tell me, what is -- what is possibly objectionable about that? Everybody wants term limits. And he's going for a constitutional amendment.

Everybody wants it, except for the people in Congress. He wants to ban the bureaucrats, from going into the businesses that they regulate after they leave government.

That's absolutely fantastic. That stops all of this graft and all of this corruption. But Democrats have been asking for that, for forever.

Moving government, breaking it up, and moving it to different parts of the country. I think that's smart just for Homeland Security. I just hope they don't poison the places where they're moving them to.

Independent monitoring of the intelligence agency. So they're not spying on Americans.

How could you possibly, as a Democrat, how could you possibly be against that?

They're not spying on us. And there's no disinformation campaigns, which we know happened. The inspector general's office of each thing that they monitor, being independent from those -- from those institutions.

So if I am monitoring, and I'm the inspector general, of the Pentagon, I'm not part of the Pentagon. So I can't be shut down. That is fantastic.

How could you be possibly against that.

This one is a little -- we have to look at the wording. Government leakers. He will fire any government leakers, and prosecute where possible. If they are trying to subvert the government or working in collusion, to give false narratives to the press. Okay?

I think I'm for that one. But I want to make sure that leakers and whistle-blowers are protected.

The FISA courts, Stu. How could you possibly be against that, if you're a Democrat?

And the Justice Department. Clean up the Justice Department. What was the other one? Oh, going for the truth and reconciliation.

That's a document dump. Who is against document dumps? I would like to know exactly what the truth is on all of these things.

I want to know. I think this is uniting. Now, the press will make this into a horrible dictatorial stuff. But it's not. Practice have if -- if the Biden administration would have done this, I would have been for all of these.

Now, what is the problem with them, Stu?

STU: Yeah. I mean, I think if you go through all those proposals, probably the worst thing you can say about them, is that several of them are sort of just not particularly interesting to the average person. Like, I think a lot of people don't even know what a FISA court is. Like, when you're talking about it from that perspective, they might be good policies. But they're not going to be exciting.

And they range from that, to the most popular proposals in our public discourse. Immure talking about things like term limits.

Which you talk about 80 percent popularity, around a proposal like that.

And the only thing stopping it is Congress. They've been, you know, doing this forever. Because they're protecting their own gigs.

Now, I will say, I am going to be very, very entertained when part of this proposal, he floats to taunt the media, a third presidential term. That's going to be fun.

And I can't wait until he does it. Because you know he will do it.

If senators get 12 years, why wouldn't a president. Your favorite president. Why wouldn't he get 12 years?

That's coming.

GLENN: I want him to float the idea of packing the court. I want him to do that, just so badly. Because everybody would be like, that's -- you can't do -- that's ridiculous.

He's going to control the court forever that way. That's unconstitutional. I would love him to just float it for about a week. And then say, huh. Thank you for all of those sound bites. We will use them against you, if you ever get in power and try for pack the court. Because you clearly know why this is wrong.

STU: Yeah. Honestly, I would -- I'm sorry -- I love that approach.

I think he comes out. He says, I'm going to start studying those proposals made by the left, during the last couple of years, as some of them sound interesting. Let them all get excited.

Then come back. Pull the rug out from underneath it. Then propose something that locks it at nine, forever.

Seriously. This is ridiculous. Let's just set it at 9:00. And then be done with it.

This shouldn't be something that is even talked about. It is a ridiculous manipulation of power.

We've seen the left try to do it hundred times. Let's get rid of that one forever.

You are going to have it, go through a constitutional process. Check that one in there too.

GLENN: So friends of mine sent me a text message, between two friends, that just came in.

And I really -- this -- this is mental illness. It really is mental illness. Listen to -- listen to this exchange via text. Okay?

Did you all vote Republican?

Just trying to figure out who to trust.

We voted both ways. We're Libertarians.

Okay. This is the response.

We voted both ways, we're Libertarians.

Sorry. If you feel our choices in this election is needed to end the friendship.

I feel like we've trusted one another throughout the years. Unfortunately, no one is perfect, in either way that you choose.

I hope you can still feel comfortable, reaching out to us. If you ever need anything.

And still be friends.

Now, this is a long-term friendship.

Men are hurting us!

They're laughing gleefully at our pain.

If you voted Republican, that's all because you're okay with that.

Men are hurting us. Could you be more specific? Men are hurting us. Could you also show us where the men are that are laughing in your face? They are holding up signs saying women are property. Could you help me out with that one. Could you show me a picture of those signs?

STU: That one, I did see a real estate listing, that did list women as property. So that is happening.

GLENN: Okay. So it's a real decision --

STU: Online.

GLENN: Okay. All right.

Are your daughters property? Well, they are now.

STU: Huh.

GLENN: What?

Now, this person responds in a way that I wouldn't have. I would have saved this one for later. Because I have too many questions on what she just said. She said, are you all going to sell the Tesla now? Isn't that supporting Musk and the Republican Party. Then the friend responded. I saw your Ted Cruz sign.

He wants my child dead.

STU: That was a weird part of his campaign. The whole, I want your child dead, vote for me, instead of Allred chanting.

But it worked. He won.

GLENN: Right. And then she responded the Tesla thing. No. We bought it used. And there's no way to escape capitalism right now.

But you chose this. You chose to make women property.

Well, I'm sure I'm sorry that you feel like you have to you be friend us. There were good things on both sides. If you hate us, then you really never knew us.

I hope you get everything you voted for.

I hope it all affects you personally.

Me too, actually.

I hope it affects you too, because it will be good.

You hate me and my child if you voted for people who openly called for our deaths. Who called for your deaths?

Please, give me. Before you break up a long-term friendship, can you please just give me the original source, of people calling for your deaths.

Now, I'm sure there are people online, that have said, really crazy things.

Because honestly, let's go up about four paragraphs, and what you just sent. You say really crazy things, too.

So let's just deal with who said that, when it was said, what the context was. Because I've never heard that before. So now, we all know. I already knew, but I hope you were able to see what was happening because you're not stupid.

Please, forget we exist.

I beg you not to talk to anyone about my son, who is disabled.

We're first on the chopping block.

Now, apparently, the son is trans, and disabled. Well, you know what, I think there are rules at Auschwitz. Yeah. He would be first. Oh, we don't live in Nazi Germany, do we?

Please forget we exist, and don't turn us in. Wow. You are 100 percent, I guess we voted wrong. Sarcasm in the face of my pain?

What pain? What pain?

Your pain is being caused because you believe lies. If you actually think that Donald Trump wants your trans handicapped child dead, you have no idea. You are so far out of reality.

I hope you have a lovely day. God bless you and your family. Typically.

I'm kidding. Please don't hurt us. We don't exist. You don't know us.

You're so compassionate with your name-calling, and if you believe that, stop texting us. What name did I call you

I will stop. But I didn't call you any names. I did not. I truly hope that you would see the light, because the Cruz sign didn't come back. I thought you would care that women are dying.

Again, give me a fact. Show me an original source.

Where are women dying?

We are now literally property of men.

You say literally, show me the source on that.

My mistake.

You said we were stupid with, for who we voted for.

No. I said you were not stupid. Which means you did it with purpose.

Oh, so I'm not stupid. I'm just evil, voting knowingly for your child to be killed?

May your daughters bleed out in the hospital parking lot now. I hope you have the good sense to be lesbians or childless cat ladies.

Again, as I said, you're 100 percent right. Maybe four more years, we can be friends. L-O-L.

Women are property now.

What the hell is wrong with people?

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Stock market SKYROCKETS after Trump’s win, but will tariffs keep it rising?

The U.S. stock market had incredible gains after Donald Trump was declared the president-elect. Is this as good of a sign as it looks for small and medium-sized businesses? Financial expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain. She also gives her take on whether Trump can stop the World Economic Forum’s plans for transforming the West and why she isn’t confident that Trump’s tariff plan could replace the Income Tax. But she has another solution that might be better …

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. So it's very exciting. I'm just writing my dear Santa Trump list. Take care of the border justice reform. Elon cuts.

MAHA tax cuts. I'll take a 15 percent corporate. But can we start with zero with tariffs?

Deep cuts in regulations. The Department of Ed, close it down.

Pentagon.

Stop the madness. That's all I've got so far.

But I'm going to -- it's going to be a long list. I will send this to Trump.

Do you have any suggestions? I would love to hear it.

One of the things I know he is going to do is -- is probably give, you know, the -- a great gift to anybody who has Bitcoin. Or anybody who is in the Bitcoin industry.

Because I -- he has said, he's against the Fed coin and he in his administration, will stop that from ever becoming a reality. I hope he can pull that one off.

But gold is up, still. It's down, what? Thirty dollars from Election Day.

But it's still doing well. I think 2700. Just coming off of all-time high. Yesterday, all-time high for Bitcoin. That's come down just a little bit.

But the economy could roar. And we have Carol Roth with us. Now.

Hi, Carol.

CAROL: Hi, Glenn. We promised people that we would get together, and would have something good to talk about at some point in time. So we manifested this discussion. And we have optimism.

And I think actually my most exciting point is the optimism. It could be four and a half years, since we've had real optimism in this country, from the time of the COVID mess through the Biden/Harris administration.

And sentiment is such a self-fulfilling prophecy, you know, particularly for the economy, but in all aspects of life. So the fact that it at that we have this huge sense of relief, has lifted off our shoulders -- not to say that there is an easy road ahead, but just to have the optimism, that, yes. We can go out and do this. Such a blessed, blessed day and week.

GLENN: Amen, on that.

So the stock market. You sent me, oh, something maybe 6 o'clock on Tuesday night. And you said, Glenn, stock market is up 200 points. That bodes well for Trump. And then it just kept going up.

You know, the after hours stock market just kept going up all throughout the night.

And it's doing well. They didn't usually they will bake in, what they think is coming.

They really thought a Kamala administration was coming. Didn't they?

CAROL: No. They actually had baked in a Trump win. So that's why this was so staggering.

I think what they didn't have baked in, is what a resounding mandate that he would have. That the Senate, the fact that he would win the popular vote. Obviously, we're still waiting.

Hopefully, the House. The fact that this is the country saying, we want this mandate.

And CNBC said this morning, that we are on track for the best week in the stock market in a year.

And what is most exciting about what's happened in the market is that it has been a very broad race.

You know, we've been through a time over the past several of years, where just a handful of tech companies, yeah, they're the ones that have been lifting the market.

The Russell 2000, which is the smaller cap, publicly traded companies. They were up 5 percent the day after the election. 5 percent in one day. Which means small companies and medium-sized companies think they will get access to capital, and have the optimism to grow their business.

And we know we need that broad-based growth. Not just a handful of companies. So that is one of my really big takeaways.

GLENN: I mean, if I were somebody that wanted to start my own business, I would be planning on it right now.

I mean, I -- I -- I think America has a chance to have another golden era here.

And, you know, maybe they put a stop to it, in four years.

But if it is -- if he can turn this around, quickly.

And actually make the kinds of moves that he's talking about.

Massive fundamental change in the -- just the garbage of the bureaucracy.

That could -- that could affect us for a very long time.

And you could also see with that kind of success, 12 years.

Not just him. But then two -- two terms of J.D. Vance.

CAROL: Absolutely.

And I think for small businesses, in particular, the people who are looking to start them, or grow an existing business. There were three key areas, that the Biden/Harris administration really tamped down on that, sort of optimism from the back bone of the economy.

The first one being the ability to work for flexibly.

You know, the Trump administration had put this very pro-independent contractor. Pro gig work framework in place.

And they reversed that in its entirety. So the fact that that goes away, is huge.

From a regulatory standpoint. 1.7 trillion dollars in regulatory burden, is the estimate of the Biden/Harris administration. On small business loan.

Small businesses don't have time for this.

And they don't have the staff or the money for this.

So on the fact that we know, that we will get more of that regulation cleaned out, is absolutely huge.

And then the tax uncertainty. You know, the tax cuts and jobs act is set to expire next year in large part.

And the fact that we know Trump is going to be, you know, more open, to, you know, extending some of those cuts.

And maybe even further cutting and hopefully, helping small businesses have that certainty. Because, again, you can't make those investments if you're not sure what will happen.

Plus, we know we will not get the crazy capital gains taxes. And wealth taxes. And all the other things that are proposed. So this is really a three-legged stool. That will help to unleash growth.

And it is such a blessing.

GLENN: So let's go over some of the things that he has to do.

He obviously has to fix the border.

And deport people. I can't take it anymore. Just deportation in US history. Well, I never -- I didn't even know that the largest deportation happened under Bill Clinton.

With 11 million people deported from our country.

11 million.

Nobody said anything about that. Our population is bigger. And what is he talking about?

Maybe ten to 15 million?

Maybe 20!

The -- this is ridiculous, that everybody is freaking out. When Bill Clinton was the guy who did it the first time.

And it didn't hurt anything.

CAROL: Yeah. I mean, we've had a mass invasion.

And while something like mass deportation may sound just like just a security policy or social policy.

It's obviously very much an economic policy. The estimate from Fare, just in 2023 alone -- forget about this year -- was $150 billion that was spent on these illegals.

And that doesn't include things like what it does to the demoralization, of communities. What it does to keep wages suppressed.

And people on the sidelines.

Back in 2022.

GLENN: And services.

CAROL: Yeah. The 2022 -- the number of illegals in the workforce was 8.3 million. You could imagine that that's up at least 50 percent, if not more.

So those are jobs that are having artificially suppressed wages and being taken away and demoralizing, you know, working age individuals. Particularly men, from getting into the workforce.

So this is a huge pharmaceutical issue for us.

And whatever the cost is, to get them out of the country, will be worth. Because the return on investment for doing that, in all facets will far exceed it.

It absolutely has to be the first thing that he does.

GLENN: We know that he's also going to.

One of the first things he's going to do on the first day is restore our energy policy. Drill, baby, drill. And open all of that stuff up again, thank God.

The -- the ESG -- I just got a note from somebody that said be with one investment bank is advising ESG fund managers to keep their lawyers very close.

Anti-trust risk remains high for asset managers. And ESG. There haven't been any cases yet.

Thus, there's no legal precedent. Further, legal risks regarding fiduciary duty, in order to stay relevant, is states enforce antistate ESG laws.

ESG, do you see the -- the stake going through its heart?

CAROL: I mean, we certainly hope so.

The challenge with something like ESG. They always repackage it.

And it always comes back to life to something else.

It's like the vampire who shape shifts into something different.

So my guess is, that ESG goes away, and then they come back, and they can come up with something else. And now it has a new name.

So it's a bit of a whack-a-mole. We will have to continue to be on it. But I absolutely think, there is going to be -- there's already a huge push to get away from it.

In part, because everybody has seen these promises. Oh, ESG will do wonderful things for investments.

That hasn't materialized. And it really has been this green washing.

I feel like, it's already on that trend.

It could be the final nail in the vampire's coffin, until he rises again.

GLENN: So the cop 25 is coming up.

And the last time he attended. I don't know if he attended. He might have just said a note, we're out. Of the Paris accords. And everything else.

That too, is going to shake the global community.

And -- and really put -- I mean, it could take it down.

If he's really strong on this World Economic Forum garbage that has been shoveled. If he's really strong on that, he could put the stake in its heart.

CAROL: You get the right government efficiency commission, and we should be out of everything. We should stop funding the WEF. We should stop funding the UN.

We should stop funding all of this insanity.

And take that money and make that available to pay down our debt. To shrink our deficits. And to stop with these NGOs who are getting massive funding from us, and then coming in and trying to ruin our lives. When you add to your list, to Trump Santa, please include getting rid of all of the funding to these ridiculous organizations.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, I think that goes under the border thing.

Because that's where we've really enriched these NGOs here in the country.

I mean, some of them should go to jail.

They brought these people in, over the border.

With our tax money. They flew them around the country.

With our tax money.

I mean, I think there should be at least an investigation on that.

CAROL: I'm with you. I second you on that one.

GLENN: When it comes to taxes. What do you think about the idea.

You would need to actually do both of them together.

I'm not a tariff guy.

But if your goal is to rebuild America, and to rebuild our manufacturing. And bring money back on to shore.

And jobs back on to shore.

If you cut. Like he was talking about, no it can tax.

If you cut the income tax. And reimpose stiff tariffs, what happens?

CAROL: So I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings in math here. But math really doesn't work out. Because you have to remember, 70 percent of our economy is service-based.

Even if you boost up manufacturing on a big level, the amount that it would take to replace what we have, in terms of an income tax, it just today is not mathematically possible.

We also have the scenario where we're trying to make sure that the GDP increases.

And that our revenue stays, you know, pretty stable, at the same time. That we're trying to get rid of the additional spending.

And that is going to be a very delicate dance. So I think this is something that needs to be -- should be managed strategically.

GLENN: But could you come up with a flat tax, or a 15 percent tax?

That just makes the economy roar.

CAROL: Sure. Yeah. I absolutely do think that you could do that. And something that is simple, also takes away a lot of the administration, and the burden, that comes along with that. That makes, you know -- just takes away productive time from people.

Spending it on paperwork. Instead of spending it on the economy.

So I do think, there could be something that is streamlined. But, again, the tax code is so insane, that I would imagine that would take some time.

But would completely welcome it. And there are so many entrepreneurial people, who are around Trump, this time around.

You know, the Elon Musk's and the Viveks and what not.

I think this is the time, there's an opportunity to actually get something like this done. And we need that, Glenn. We need to have the growth. Because if we don't have the massive growth, we're not going to be able to shrink the government.

We're not going to be able to shrink massive inflation. So that's the dance that we have.

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