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The Pivotal Moment That Made Penn Jillette Hate Magic

Iconic illusionist Penn Jillette --- of the famed duo Penn & Teller --- joined Glenn for in-depth discussion this week on TV. Jillette relayed the astonishing story that turned him off magic after discovering the mentalist he idolized was really a fake.

"My hatred of magic got through the roof. Adults lie to you about these things. So when I first met Teller, and he said I do magic, it was just . . . I don't want anything to do with that. First of all, they're cheesy. They're not rock 'n' roll. They're greasy guys in tuxes," Jillette explained.

What turned him around to co-produce one of the most successful magic acts in American history?

Watch the video for a sneak peek and answers to these illusive questions:

• What famous mentalist did a young Penn Jillette idolize?

• What "blood-draining" revelation made Jillette despise magic?

• What made Jillette's science grades plummet?

Watch the full episode on-demand at TheBlaze TV.

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Charlie Kirk REVEALS 3 Ways to SHRINK the Department of Education

Donald Trump is in for a fight if he wants to fully abolish the Department of Education – he might not even be able to legally do it without Congress. But Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk tells Glenn there are 3 major steps Trump can take to shrink the Department in the meantime and release its grip on our education system. Speaking at AmFest 2024, Charlie and Glenn also discuss what DOGE can do to make a massive difference and whether Republicans have finally come to an agreement on the continuing resolution spending bill.