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End of Medical Dark Ages: Entrepreneur Predicts When We'll Have Cancer Under Control

Serial entrepreneur, historian and dreamer Jay Walker joined Glenn on radio Wednesday for an epic conversation about the future of America.

"If you are a dreamer and a doer, this is going to be a fantastic hour. I have wanted to sit down with this guy for quite some time," Glenn said Wednesday on radio.

Walker --- labeled the Edison of his age by Forbes in 1999 --- is a modern-day Renaissance man. While his day job involves creating cutting-edge companies like Priceline.com and Upside.com that provide a patented, buyer-driven experience, his obsession is finding the connectedness . . . in everything. The breakthroughs he sees coming in the fields of health and medicine are of particular interest.

"For 3 billion years, life on the planet has followed a very simple system," Walker said. "We all share the same DNA --- a tree, a dog, a human. We have so much in common. For the first time in human history, in the history of the world, humans have control of the operating code. We are now manipulating the DNA, which means, for the first time, it's as if we had the software of life."

Walker explained how scientists are at the cusp of operating down to the instructional layer, which creates the proteins that create the tissues, systems and organs of the body.

"It's almost as if we're inventing printing, reading, writing and thinking all at the same time in forms of medicine," Walker said.

In effect, we're living in an extraordinary time in the history of the world.

"We're at the end of the medical Dark Ages," Glenn offered.

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So passionate is Walker about the field of medicine he helped launch TEDMED, an independent health and medicine edition of the world-famous TED conference.

"How far do you think we are away from curing the majority of cancer?" Glenn asked.

According to Walker, it's not so much curing cancer that's around the corner, but being able to manage it as a livable disease like AIDS.

"How far do you think we are away from that?" Glenn asked.

"If you're saying leukemias and blood cancers, we're probably five years, maybe 10," Walker said.

"Holy cow," Glenn responded.

Walker's belief in the systematic, connectedness of everything even applies to his remarkable library which holds 25,000 books.

"People come to my library and they say, 'How are the books organized, Jay? How do you organize the books? You have 25,000 books. Is there a card catalog?' I say, 'Absolutely not. They're organized randomly by height,'" Walker laughed.

The library, Walker says, is one of imagination.

"They were all written by humans. They're all connected. You figure out why this is connected to that. The act of imagining is the essential act of creation. Nothing happens if you don't imagine it, whether it's who you're going to marry, the children you want to have, the kind of country you want to live in, the kind of job you want to have. It's all about your imagination. Everything happens here first. It happens in your head."

Enjoy the complimentary clip or listen to this segment for details.

GLENN: I first talked to Jay Walker -- I've known about him for a long, long time. But I first met Jay Walker on the phone -- this is the first time we've actually sat in the same room together.

And immediately, I felt connected to him and the way he thinks. He's an optimist. He sees a massive change on the horizon. But he knows it doesn't have to be bad. It probably is going to be a little rough getting there. But it doesn't have to be bad. And he sees the future unlike most people do. And he sees it through the eyes of history, which is so wickedly important. Just full disclosure, he is the guy who started upside.com which is an advertiser on this program. But I do want to ask him one question on something he told me about Upside when we first spoke. But this is not an advertisement. We're not even going to talk about that. You need to meet this man.

He's just started something called Ted MD, which is TED talks -- no, I'm sorry. Med Ted. Sorry. Med Ted. Yeah, TEDMED.

Jeez, how many times am I going to get this wrong?

STU: You only asked him three times before you came on the air.

GLENN: I know. I know. What am I thinking?

So he started this, and I want to start here. I hate to bring it to a cheesy TV show, but I've been watching a show -- and now I can't even remember the name of it. It is --

JEFFY: Pure Genius, which was just cancelled.

GLENN: Pure Genius. Was it cancelled?

JEFFY: Yes.

GLENN: Oh, crap. That was such an optimistic show.

JEFFY: I know. I know.

GLENN: Have you seen that?

JAY: I have not.

GLENN: Okay. So the premise is a guy who is a billionaire, you know, a guy like you . . . just a serial entrepreneur, tech guy. He's in Silicon Valley. He's like, I'm going to start a hospital. And it shows --

JAY: Oh, boy. You'd be better starting a government.

GLENN: But it shows all the -- it takes all the red tape out and shows all the tech that is coming and how optimistic life really looks when you look at what's on the horizon and the breakthroughs we're about to go through.

As you're doing this, what are you seeing for --

JAY: Well, Glenn, the way to think about it for health and medicine, is that for 3 billion years, life on the planet has followed a very simple system. It's very simple. There's one -- you know, there's DNA. We have a common ancestor. And it's been evolving for 3 billion years, give or take depending on your beliefs. And I'm not picking on anybody's beliefs.

But the fact is, we all share the same DNA --- a tree, a dog, a human. We have so much in common. For the first time in human history, in the history of the world, humans have control of the operating code. We are now manipulating the DNA. Which means, for the first time, it's as if we had the software of life. That's never happened in history before.

It means for the first time, we're going to be able to operate down at the instruction layer, which creates the proteins, which then creates the tissues and the systems and the organs of the body. So we're right at the cusp.

It's almost as if we're inventing printing, reading, writing, and thinking all at the same time in forms of medicine. And so we are living at the beginning of an extraordinary time in the history of the world.

GLENN: We're at the end of the medical Dark Ages.

JAY: Exactly. It's as if we had just gotten the microscope for the first time, and we saw there was a tiny world that nobody knew existed. In 1665, Hook looks through his microscope, and he sees that the fly is composed of thousands of little eyes. And he says, "What is this micro world? What are these little things swimming around?"

And he can't even see bacteria. He can't even see the smallest things. And yet, an entirely new world opens up. Galileo looks into the heavens and sees that there are planets, but also sees that there are moons around Saturn and Jupiter. And suddenly, the notion that the earth is in the center of the universe drops away. The telescope and the microscope were the great changes of the 17th century. And now we're in the 21st century, and we're now seeing for the first time the actual code that brings things to life.

GLENN: We're seeing things -- Ray Kurzweil, I've talked to several times. I am --

JAY: The singularity, right? Ray talks about, we're about to hit this point at which everything breaks free and goes on an extraordinary compounding effect, and whether or not you agree or disagree with Ray, there is no question if you back up and you look at where we are in history, in medicine and health, we are about to exit the Dark Ages.

GLENN: So he said it's as if -- he said, the human body should last a lot longer than it does. It shouldn't wear out. He said, it's as if there's a switch somewhere that's just been turned off. And he said, we just have to find that switch. Are you -- when you look at the DNA --

JAY: Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Ray on that, but I understand where he's coming from.

The human body isn't a thing. The human body is a system. Think of the Amazon rain forest. It's composed of enormous different things. It's got trees and insects. It's got birds. It's got animals. It's got leaves. It's got photosynthesis. It's got fungi.

It's got all these things, and we call it the Amazon. It's constantly changing. You are an Amazon rain forest. You have trillions of --

GLENN: I think that's a fat joke --

JEFFY: It certainly was a fat joke to me.

JAY: So we don't switch on or off the Amazon rain forest. No, the Amazon rain forest isn't going away, despite, you know, our efforts to cut it down for lumber or to grow grass. But that being said, it's about a system.

What we're learning is how all the different systems of the body, including many that are not even human, we're learning about the microbiome. These are bacteria that we need to survive in our guts and all throughout us, for which without them, we can't make it.

GLENN: How far do you think we are away from curing the majority of cancer?

JAY: I think we're far from curing the majority. But we're not far from turning a significant number of cancers into a manageable, livable disease, like we did with AIDS.

We figured out not how to cure AIDs, but how to slow it down so you could live with the rest of your life with it, much like all men have prostate cancer. We just don't die of it.

But literally, 100 percent of men, if you do an autopsy at age 75, are going to have prostate cancer. They simply are not going to die from it.

Cancer is essentially a natural byproduct of having multicellular organisms. Because in the process of duplicating at the cellular level, you're going to have some mistakes randomly, and some of those mistakes are going to be so damned good at not being killed, that they're going to reproduce in a way that's bad for the organism as a whole, but good for the cell. So we don't eliminate cancer. We eventually figure out how to manage with it.

GLENN: How far do you think we are away from that?

JAY: If you say 50 percent of -- if you're saying leukemias and blood cancers, we're probably five years, maybe ten.

GLENN: Holy cow.

JAY: If you're saying soft tissue cancers, more like ten to 20. But a lot of it depends on whether or not we get better at finding them sooner. Today, we cannot detect cancer until it's about seven years old. So when somebody comes from a doctor and they say, "I've been diagnosed with cancer," you've had it for seven years. We can't see less than 100 million cells, which is less than the tiny point of a pin, 100 million cancer cells.

So cancer is a system disease of which we have many in our bodies, most of which will never come to the point where they hurt us. Cancer isn't like an infection where it's binary, you have it or you don't. Cancer is a symptom of the system. And the system learns to cope with it for most of your life.

GLENN: What's the most amazing thing you seen on the horizon in medical tech?

JAY: The most amazing thing is probably the mapping of the human protyle. So we call all the -- the proteins are the workhouses of the body --

PAT: That's what I was going to say.

JAY: They're the things that do all the work in your body. Your DNA codes for proteins. Proteins are the worker bees of the body at the simplest level. We really have never mapped them all. And it turns out most of the diseases, if not nearly all of them are dysfunctions of protein operations. Proteins are very complicated organisms. They're very, very small, but they're very complicated. We are now at the cusp of mapping them all.

And forget about mapping the human genome, which is great. It's the protium where all the action is at, and we're right about to map it.

GLENN: What will that change?

JAY: Well, it will allow us, for the first time, to understand what's really going on with disease. Up to now, we've actually not understood what's really going on.

GLENN: What does that mean?

JAY: Well, it means that the proteins are malfunctioning. When you have a disease --

GLENN: Hang on just a second. I just want to -- you know you're in the room with someone who is smart when you're -- I'm now in three levels deep of asking what the hell does that mean, and really --

JAY: I'm trying -- I'm trying to keep it broad for the audience. I'm not an MD or a PhD. I'm really not a doctor. I just talk to them all day.

GLENN: No, it's amazing. Right.

JAY: And, by the way, that's my spare time job because my main job is building a great company in Upside. So ironically, we're off on the side here.

But the -- basically, what it means is when we learn how proteins behave badly, we will recognize that your arthritis may be very similar to the fact that you have a sleep apnea, that they are the same proteins, just misbehaving.

There is a map of all the proteins.

GLENN: Wow.

JAY: And once we start to look at where the proteins are behaving badly, we now have the tools to finally figure out what the hell is going on with these diseases. We don't know anything about Alzheimer's. So much of that is a protein --

GLENN: So that's why sometimes you'll go in and things are absolutely not connected. Doctors will tell you, that's not connected. Well, but they're all happening at the same time.

JAY: Right.

GLENN: And, yeah, I know they're not connected. But I've never had these before, and now they're all happening.

JAY: Everything is connected. Okay? So anybody who tells you something isn't connected -- you don't go into the Amazon rain forest and say, well, the fact that the toads are dying is unconnected to the blight on the trees. No, everything is connected. The question is, at what level?

GLENN: Right.

JAY: Does it have a common cause? Or is it the result of common external factors? We're learning all that.

GLENN: You know what I'm amazed, talking to people like you, A, I feel really average. That's being very kind.

JAY: This isn't your area of expertise, in all fairness.

GLENN: I know. But, still, this is -- this is not your job.

JAY: It's not my day job.

GLENN: And the people I meet like you, have they always been around? Because I look through history -- and you'll see the people like Tesla and Edison. You'll see these people who are really quite bright in a million different things. We used to call them renaissance men.

JAY: Yeah.

GLENN: But there is something about this new group of entrepreneurs that they are -- Jon Huntsman Sr. is a friend of mine and started the Huntsman Cancer Center.

JAY: Yeah.

GLENN: And he said to me -- I asked him, teach me how to be charitable. I've been poor my whole life. I don't know how to be charitable.

JAY: It's an art. You have to learn how to do it.

GLENN: Yes. And he said, first lesson, you have to care about everything. Not just -- you have to care about everything.

And that kind of goes to --

JAY: It's very American. So this is a nation of insatiable curiosity. It's always been that way. It's because we've had the West. We were founded by a group of people who were fleeing somewhere else, with the handful of exceptions of the people who were here, right?

We've all come from somewhere else. We've all left a world behind, in order to come and build a new world in America. Nobody even knew it existed until 1500.

So the beauty of the American spirit is it's a spirit of insatiable curiosity. That's why we're a nation of tinkerers, a nation of inventors, a nation that's always trying to change. We don't look back as a nation. It's a weakness and a strength both at the same time.

But the fact is, this is -- the country -- America looks forward. People like that are insatiably curious about everything. And you find whether it's John Muir or Thomas Edison, these people recognized that at the deepest level, it's all connected.

So I have a great library in the history of human imagination. About 25,000 books.

GLENN: Love this.

JAY: Right? Now, it's a library about imagination. People come to my library. And they say, "How are the books organized, Jay? How do you organize the books? You have 25,000 books. Is there a card catalog?"

I say absolutely not. They're organized randomly by height. And he goes, "You have a library of 25,000 books organized randomly?" I said, "Yes. It's about imagination. You connect them. They were all written by humans. They're all connected. You figure out why this is connected to that."

The act of imagining is the essential act of creation. Nothing happens if you don't imagine it, whether it's who you're going to marry, the children you want to have, the kind of country you want to live in, the kind of job you want to have. It's all about your imagination -- everything happens here first. It happens in your head.

GLENN: We're having a great debate now between the legal and business side and the creative side of this company, of what -- who is the creative? And I keep saying, everyone is.

JAY: We all work for the customer. We all work for the customer.

GLENN: It's not even that, I am, fill in the blank. I am happy or I am sad. What are you going to create at the basic level? And everyone has the same power in a different way. Just, what are you creating?

JAY: Yeah. And we've taught, unfortunately, in so many ways, we live in a society of specialists. We've taught, specialize. Focus on one field. Do the best. Your economic result will be highest if you specialize.

And that's true. But it's generalists who integrate completely, unexpectedly. When you look at Steve Jobs and his life, you see a generalist. Not a specialist. You see a guy who was happy to go to India, happy to learn about type fonts, happy to understand the aesthetics of design. And yet, he was a technologist. Why? Because, really, great leaps forward are made by people who integrate from multiple fields. And that's why we call them polymaths, when they happen to be geniuses. Leonardo was a polymath. He was a genius in five fields. That allowed him to be a bigger genius in any one of them. And we see this throughout history.

GLENN: We're going to run out of time so fast. Jay Walker, a serial entrepreneur. A founder -- cofounder of Priceline. And many other things -- 900 patents. We'll continue our conversation with him in just a second.

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GLENN: Let's talk a little bit about the -- the future and what you're seeing in things like Priceline and Upside.

JAY: So one of the great futures is we're living in this digital world, right? And everybody is saying, look at all this data. Okay. What does that mean to me? What does that mean to a person sitting out in the audience, and just listening and saying, okay. That's nice. The world is filled with data.

Here's one of the things it means. It means your flexibility, which right now you don't get paid for, you're going to start getting paid for.

Look, when you're walking down the supermarket aisle and you see an item on sale, next to one that isn't on sale, you can be flexible and say, I'm going to buy the brand that's on sale today because I normally buy that brand.

But that's just a small case. What happens every time you're shopping online and somebody says, "Hey, are you willing to be a little flexible? I'll give you $50, if you do this instead of that." I'll give you $90 if you do this instead of that."

Imagine a smart piece of software that offers you options that gives you personally more money for being flexible. And, by the way, gives your boss something too.

So the key idea behind one of the things I'm working on is, how do you turn flexibility into an asset? How do you turn it into something where I have my phone -- hey, look, I want to go to New York on a trip. But if I leave 15 minutes earlier, you'll give me $50. If I leave -- if I go into a different airport, you'll give me $100. If I stay at a hotel across the street, that's worth $200 to me.

I can't find all those choices. There's too many choices. But software can.

The beauty of the world we're living in, with this new big data software, is it can evaluate tens of thousands of choices for you. Show you just a few that makes sense.

GLENN: So when we come back -- can you talk a little bit about that? Because you've demonstrated that in Upside. And that's -- I got to that with you because I said, okay. What's the catch? And you explained it to me. And I'm like, holy cow, that's brilliant.

And you said to me, now, imagine that with everything.

So let's talk about that. And also, I want to talk about the -- the world that is going out and examining all these things, but then putting us into little teeny boxes, where we don't see the big picture anymore.

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Why Trump Was RIGHT to Freeze Harvard’s Taxpayer Funding

President Trump has frozen $2.2 billion in taxpayer-funded grants for Harvard University after it refused to stop its DEI initiatives and make other policy changes. But does Harvard even need our money? Glenn explains why he believes the government shouldn’t fund ANY Ivy League school. Plus, he dives into Harvard’s sketchy history that proves the radical protests on its campus are nothing new.

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GLENN: So the Trump administration has -- has frozen billions of dollars in federal funding for Harvard.

Because, the Ivy League is refusing to comply to, hey. Let's not let people say, let's kill all the Jews on campus. I don't know.

Seems pretty easy. You know, if you want your money spent, you know, there. Go ahead.

I'm -- I'm really done with the university thing. I'm way past that.

You know, Harvard, you know, you have more money than Jesus.

Okay? And I know, at the time, he didn't have pockets. So he didn't have a lot of money. But the guys who were out there, collecting money for them. Now they have a lot. And you have more!

I'm done bailing your ass out. You don't pay taxes. And I'm still paying for you?

No!

You get no federal money.

STU: Absolutely no reason to be giving Harvard one dime, ever.

GLENN: No. Not a dime.

None of these ivy leagues. No.

Not a single dime.

STU: They have $50 billion in endowment. That they could just milk forever. And let everyone go to the college for free if they wanted to.

GLENN: I think it's more than that.

They should look it up. It's a lot more than that. But these Ivy League schools. There's no reason, that they're paying for them.

None. None.

Why?

Why should we send them a dime? Especially when they're doing the same thing.

Look, this is not new. This whole thing of hating the Jews.

This is exactly what they did in the 1930s. You know, they were -- they were overlooking any kind of anti-Semitism.

And it was all driven by elitism. It was all driven by anti-Semitic thought.

There was even -- you know, they embraced the Nazis. Harvard -- the person that was running Harvard. The Harvard president at the time, James Conant.

You know, he was -- he was keeping ties with the Nazi-controlled universities. And then he brought people in, from the Nazi Party, including a Harvard alumni.

And a Hitler confidant. To canvass in 1934. Well, anti-Nazi students were like, hey, this is a problem. And so what did Harvard do?

Called in the police. Beat the protesters. Protests were suppressed. They tore down the signs.

They arrested the demonstrators. You know, all because they had a Nazi on campus.

And they thought, maybe that's a bad thing.

So also, Harvard, who, by the way, Trump is thinking about defunding.

Thinking?

There should be no thought in that. I'm sure there's no thought in there.

I'm sure he's already went.

I don't have to think about it very long. Cut it!

Anyway, back in the 1830s. Too many Jewish students.

And just too many Jews that are, you know, teaching from all over the world. That are now coming here.

We can't have all this, quote, Jewish thought.

Oh.

Okay.

All right. That sounds -- okay.

Then you have Columbia. They were just as good.

They had Nicholas Murray Butler.

He had the Nazi ambassador on campus. And then did exchanges with the Nazi universities.

And it was great. Because they had all these Nazis on the campus. And they were good for the Jewish population.

They loved it. They loved it. And it -- the Columbia University said, well, you know, we have academic ties.

We're not talking politics.

Okay. Well, they're -- do you know they're gassing the Jews over there know.

And it started with the universities, getting rid of the Jews.

Yeah.

Yale, they were big-time in eugenics. Like Stanford. They were the eugenics leaders. And those guys all had ties with only the best medical people in Germany.

So nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.

This is who they are.

They're the elites. And I say, they're the elites. But not all the elites. Like, they didn't want to hire any of the elite professors. That came from Heidelberg. They're Jewish and out of a job. They're not getting a job out here.

Because they're the wrong kind of elites. We don't want to play golf with them. Or be around them. Or hear any of their Jewish thoughts. This should be a no-brainer on several levels.

Why are we giving Harvard, that is just making money, hand over fist, and putting it into a big endowment, so they can -- they can last forever. They could live off of their endowment forever.

Why are we paying them money?

Why?

I'll tell you why, because we're in bed, with the -- the educational industrial complex.

We're producing people, the government wants produced. That's why.

That's why that's happening, period.

You know, these are the -- these are the same kinds of people that berate in all these operation paper clip people.

When we had -- we win the war, and we find some of the worst of the worst. And we find them over in Germany.

We're like, oh, we have to have that guy. We have to have that guy. Let me give you a couple of them. Herbert Strughold.

He was known as the father of space medicine. Oh. How did he become the father of space medicine?

Well, he oversaw all the experiments at Dachau, where all of the prisoners were subjected to extreme conditions. High altitude. Hey, how high can we fly before somebody pops?

Hey, let's put them outside, pour water on them, and see how long it takes them to freeze.

Or let's just -- just force seawater in them, and see how long they can last, with just seawater?

Okay.

They didn't end well for the patients that were there, but it didn't matter.

You know, Columbia didn't mind because they're all Jews. They're all Jews. So we can get rid of those guys.

So he is -- he's one of the guys that oversaw all of the doctors. He then went to the Air Force School of Aviation for medicine, where he was the guy, here in America that advanced all of our space medicine. He's the guy who said, hey. You know, we did this with Jews. We saw how high you could go, before they popped. Before their heads exploded. You know, what happens to them, if they get really, really super cold. So I kind of know. I have a little expertise in this. So let me design all of the regulations and all of the safety protocols, you know, for Mercury and Apollo. That's it. By the way, he also -- he has an award named after him.

The Strughold Award. This is still being given out. But, you know, don't worry about that. So then you had the Surgeon General of the Third Reich.

He was brought over. He was the guy who supervised all of the medical experiments, including typhus and plague weaponization.

He improved all of the tests, exposing the prisoners to lethal pathogens in camps like Buchenwald. High-ranking SS kind of guy. Don't worry. He just came over, he was doing stuff with our medicine. Kurt Blome came over. He was great. Nazi biological warfare guy. He was the tippy top of that. You know, strangely. All these guys worked at the concentration camps.

I don't know what. I don't know what was going on in those concentration camps, why they were working there. But this guy was working at Auschwitz.

And other camps. And he was just exposing people to all kinds of biological -- he's the guy who came over here, and he helped us make aerosol bioweapons. Isn't that great?

All this guys were academics. All of them were academics. All of this needs to be burned out of our society. All of them!

We should not have any awards named after Nazis. I'm sorry. I'm not a guy for tearing down statues.

I want people to remember who these people are. I want the building, you know, the names of all of the buildings in Stanford. I want the building to remain with those names on it.

Because I want everybody to know. They named them after the worst eugenicist in the world!

Stanford University. And in the meantime, I don't think we pay for any of it. Myself.

I don't think we pay for any of this stuff. They haven't changed. They're exactly the same people. And they keep reintroducing the same pathogen, anti-Semitism.

Over and over and over again.

No. By the way, I don't know if anybody has noticed. They have plenty of money in their pockets.

How much money do we have in our pockets?

Okay? None!

We're borrowing money to give money to people who have all the money.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Are we going to give grants, to Bill Gates?

I don't think that would be very smart.

I bet you, we would be doing it.

Wouldn't be real smart, would it? That's what we're doing. So we've got that going for us. Let's see. What else is going?

Oh, while we're here on medicine and Nazis and universities, a transgender activist that was employed as the community navigator for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, the Children's Hospital, suggested that women should be allowed to donate their wombs to be transplanted into transgender women, otherwise known as men to allow them to give birth.

Now, I don't think you can just sew those parts in, and it works. You know.

I don't think so.

Might be able to a little bit more complex than that.

But what do I know? I'm not a doctor. Oh, I am a doctor.

No. No.

So Alice and Kathleen Simpson, reportedly made the comments that surfaced in a video on social media.

She said, the possibility of womb transplants was theorized in the trans community.

Yeah. You know when they did this the you first time? 1925.

You know where they did it? Berlin, Germany. Whoa! Wait a minute.

Are you saying all of this sexology and transgenderism, and all that stuff was being done in Berlin, Germany, right before the Nazis took over?

Yes. Honey. That's exactly what I'm saying. That's exactly -- and, you know what, when the Nazis came in, and they decided that this was unacceptable. See, the homosexuals do have gay community.

You do have a reason to fear Nazis. They're not your friends. I don't know why you march for them.

You know, the new Nazis are just the Palestinians. I don't know why you march for them. But you do have a reason to be afraid of Nazis. Because they don't like you very much. And when it got completely out of control and all of the literature about sewing wombs into people were in the schools and the -- the sexology university, I think of Berlin.

All of this stuff was coming from them.
And it went, and it permeated their schools, just like it's doing now. That's when the Nazis came to power.

And so many Christians were like, I -- I can't fight this. It's completely out of control. You know what, these guys will. The first book burnings were all the burnings of the stuff that we're pumping into our society, right now.

So you don't want to grow Nazis.

You might want -- you might not want to be an extremist. And then shut everybody down, who says.

Hey. That's extreme.

Because you produce extremists. The natural consequence is the other side produces extremists.

And then all of us in the middle are like, oh, dear God.

That's what's happening. So it's -- it's good.

She went on social media, and she said. I have these parts. I don't want them. I want you to have them because you need them. What if I gave you my womb?

Well, if you did, he probably would die.

I think his body would reject the womb.

That's what happened to the first guy they tried to sew it into.

In 1929 -- 1925 is when they started putting breasts on him, and everything else.

And in 1929, finally, you know, he got that womb. And they sewed it inside of him. For some reason, the male body rejects a womb. Who would have seen that coming?

And he died, in 1929. But, hey, let's do it again.

Because what did she say? The transgender community has been theorizing about this for a while.
Yeah. Yeah. Since the 1920s.

Not a lot has changed.

Science doesn't change.

Real science doesn't change.

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GLENN: I'm going to go to -- I'm going to talk to you about another taxpayer-funded debacle that should go away.

STU: Let down quite a bit.

GLENN: That's PBS and NPR.

Donald Trump is talking about ending the taxpayer funding for that happen.

There's no reason. There is absolutely no reason!

You know, they're violating all of their noncommercial bullcrap.

They're not supposed to be able to talk about the benefits of a certain you product.

They can say, paid for by people just like you.

Like, you know, George Soros foundation.

That's all they could say.

They can't say, the George Soros foundation.

Which specializes in such-and-such. And is making the world a better place.

They can't say that. By law, they can't say that. They've been saying that for years.
And they're making money. Lots and lots of money.

Can we stop giving funding, to people that are already making money?

STU: Yeah. But we did this with Big Bird. Remember when Mitt Romney said something about PBS or something. And they said, they will try to kill Big Bird. And it's like, well, Big Bird, they make billions of dollars a year, just on merchandising.

GLENN: Merchandising.

STU: Right?

They should be able to function with a budget, you know, like other sources.

GLENN: Right. I know we can run TheBlaze on just a fraction of Big Bird plush toys.

STU: Oh, gosh, yes. 100 percent.

GLENN: I don't know why they can't run their whole thing.

STU: And that's the thing. Do you have a list of things? I have a list of things loosely in my head of what the government. We shouldn't even consider spending money by the government, unless you hit certain things.

Like, for example, no one else can do it.

Right? Like the military.

No one else can really do that.

GLENN: Well, they can. But we don't want them to.

STU: We don't want them to.

We expect and will afford ourselves and whatever program is being funded, some level of inefficiency.

Like the military is another good example of this.

Some people would argue, medical research is. Like I'm kind of okay with the government and its military, wasting some money, on some new weapon system that doesn't wind up working out.

I'm like, okay -- I want the DARPA stuff. I want that in that particular category.

GLENN: Yeah, you have to.

STU: So that makes sense. If -- the arts are a great example of what you should never fund. Because, A, people already like doing them. Right?

People do art all the time. They pay to do art. They like doing art.

People enjoy it. You don't need to pay for it by the government, if there is already --

GLENN: You know, I really like Dallas.

I like Texas.

You know, Rick Perry came to the Dallas people, because Boeing rejected moving to Dallas.
Because there weren't enough arts. And he came to the community. And he said, you need to build some stuff. And they did, without any taxpayer funds.

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Is Trump's Trade War with China a "Space Race" for Rare Earth Minerals?

The United States is in a new “Space Race” that may be more important than the first one. This time, the race is against China to get more rare earth minerals. Glenn explains why these minerals are so crucial for our future as technology and artificial intelligence grows in complexity, as well as how the trade war between Trump and China might go. Plus, Glenn discusses how we got here in the first place: addicted to buying Chinese goods with an inflated dollar.

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GLENN: China is hitting back. They are dumping our -- our T-bills. Our Treasury bills. Taiwan stocks, wobbling. Consumers, people like you and me, bracing for higher prices. University of Michigan survey says inflation fears are spiking. It's Nixon. This is Nixon.

But take a step back. Trump is not stirring the pot. What Nixon did was he took us off the gold standard, so we could spend more money.

And to make us -- this is what he promised the world, that he would make us consumers, not producers.

So we would consume, what everybody else was producing.

So in a way, that was his plan. And he got it! But it cracked the system for, you know, the average person.

Nixon's tariffs lasted four months, it didn't fix the core. Trump is going bigger and bolder. He says, he will bring jobs home.

Could it backfire?

Yeah. Yeah. Tariffs might add another one to 2 percent to prices. Maybe three to five on your Walmart card. Because everything from Walmart is coming from China.

The Peterson Institute, by the way, has run the numbers. Higher yields could strain our 2 trillion-dollar deficit. Make mortgage prices higher.

The retaliation from China is real. And China is not blinking, and neither are we!

Now, do we stumble into recession. Stagflation like the '70s? I don't know. In the '70s, real wages fell 5 percent in a year.

Here's the flip side. If Trump pulls this off, if we start setting things right, where we mean what we say, and we mean what we say, we get everything under control. We're not just spending. And we have no real assets that we actually are sitting on.

If wages rise, one to 2 percent, like the IMF predicts. If supply chains come home, we could see something new. Not a return to 1971. But a system where the middle class isn't crushed, where houses don't cost your soul.

And where the top 1 percent don't control almost everything. Even Bernie Sanders. Would agree with this.

But, no, no, no, no. But he's not. He's busy with Coachella. Get to that here in a second. Here's the thing, history is a very tough teacher. Nixon's shock showed good intentions and sparked long fires. Inequality. Debt. A hallowed out heartland.

This is a very big stakes game. But what has a higher cost is not trying to fix the system.

That's a slow bleed, and we're almost out of blood. It's been 50 years to prove the point. This doesn't work.

This system is broken. But it's not dead. Imagine a world where our children's jobs actually pay enough, where America is not just buying, but it's building.

That's the gamble. And that is the next generation's new American dream. So we're at a crossroads like we were in 1971.

Hopefully, we're wiser. Trump is not Nixon. He has a history map. Scars and all.

Will he fix what is broke? I don't know.

Things are getting a little dangerous.

And tough. This is where the big boys play. This is why Trump earns the big money, even though he doesn't actually take a paycheck for any of this.

This, we're playing the highest steaks of a game.

Here's the latest from China.

And I don't know how many people are really focusing on this.

But this is the ball game.

China now says that they're going to cut us off on rare earth minerals.

Now, we have plenty of rare earth minerals.

There is a new space race. Do you remember when JFK said this?

VOICE: We choose to go to the moon in this decade, and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

GLENN: Apparently, even harder than saying decade, not decade.

Anyway, I digress.

So this was really important, because it was a space race. This would change the world. Whoever got to space first, got to the moon first, would change the world.

But there's a new race, and it is just as game-changing. This one is even more critical.

And that is the race for rare earth minerals. The tiny elements that power everything, in our future.

Right now, China has just pulled a giant gun, and they're holding it to our head.

They are threatening to cut off all exports of rare earth minerals.

And if we don't act, with a JFK kind of moon shot, we will lose the AI race. We will lose quantum computing race.

We will lose every technological leap, that is just over the horizon. Rare earth minerals are not just elements in rocks in the ground. They are the back bone to our modern world. Everything from high-tech, weaponry, that will defend our skies, to the smartphones. That are in your pocket.

To the wind turbine. Eye sores. That the left loves so much. And mean nothing. And the quantum computers, that will redefine what is possible.

Here's the deal: In 2024, we produced 45,000 metric tons of rare earth oxide concentrate from the US. Mostly in the mountain pass in California.

Sounds great. But we only refined about 6500 metric tons of usable material.

66 thousand -- yeah. 6,600 metric tons is our demand every year.

So we're close, and yet so far away. Because 70 percent of what we need still comes from China. And Beijing knows this. And this month, they've halted all exports.

Saying, it's in their national interest to stop.

We knew this was coming. We've talked about this for a long time. Do not be held hostage.

They are weaponizing the rare earth minerals. So what's at stake, and what do we do?

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GLENN: Okay. So everything we need, batteries for our cars. Chips. Everything that we need for quantum computing for AI, et cetera, et cetera. It comes from rare earth minerals. China now produces 270,000 metric tons a year.

That's 70 percent of what the globe consumes every year. We're second at 45,000 tons.

But we're at the mercy of their refining. It's like we have lots of oil. But no refineries.

I can't just pour raw barrels of oil into my car. I need somebody to refine it.

And we don't make refineries. Here is the danger of globalism. We gambled on a world where everybody plays fair. Where supply chains are just a matter of efficiency. But globalism has left us exposed.

And we are -- we are handing all of the power over to China, and that power is the power to choke us to death.

It was a reckless bet. We all knew this was bad. We have -- we have everything that we need. Mountain Pass in California. Bear Lodge in Wyoming. Round Top in Texas.

We have the talent. MP Materials, Rare Element Resources, already stepping up. MP Materials invested $2 billion to get 6500 metric tons refined output. They're ramping up. Rare Elements Resources says with $500 million, they could have a full-scale plant running in 18 months. We have all of the pieces we need. We just need the will.

Experts estimate ten to $15 billion, to make sure that our full domestic supply chain, refining plants. Alloyed production. Magnet factories. Everything. Everything is done here.

And for the money that it would be a rounding error in the federal budget. We spend twice that on stupid crap, every year.

If we can fund the carbon study, you know, carbon footprint studies on I don't know. Turtles. And elves. I think we could probably fund this.

Because the time line is so important. If we use the mandate that we found in November, we could be self-sufficient in five years!

In five years, the whole world will be different.

Without a push from the federal government, we're looking at eight to ten years, and that's way too late. We lose. We lose.

This is about the future right now.

We need somebody, and President Trump to stand up. And define what is important to our future. What are the important things that we have to do, and we have to do right now?

Because jobs coming back, is not enough. The right jobs, have to be here.

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Ben Shapiro & Glenn Beck Reveal the TURNING POINT for the Media

The Legacy Media’s time is up and New Media outlets like BlazeTV and the Daily Wire are rising to take their place. Ben Shapiro joins Glenn Beck to make the case that he can pinpoint the exact day that Joe Biden killed the Legacy Media: his disastrous 2024 debate against Donald Trump. “In that moment, the Legacy Media died,” Ben says. “The entire American public was subjected to the reality that these people lie with an agenda. And you can’t put that genie back in the bottle.”

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Does This Tape Prove LBJ Killed JFK?

The tape alleging that LBJ ordered JFK's assassination appears to be REAL. Glenn invited the tape's owner, Shane Stevens, to confirm that the digital recording he gave to Alex Jones back in January, 2025, matches the original tape. So, for the first time, he played the chilling confession from the original source live in the studio.