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Jonah Goldberg: If Hypocrisy Were Helium, We'd All Have Funny Voices and Some Would Float Away

Jonah Goldberg --- comedian or acclaimed author and senior editor at National Review? You decide. Goldberg joined Glenn on radio Wednesday to offer his hilarious take on the absurdity that is Washington, DC. It's either laugh or cry, right?

Enjoy the complimentary clip or listen to this segment for details.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I'm so excited about the next two people that we have to introduce you to today. This hour, we have Jonah Goldberg from National Review. He's a guy who I don't know if he knows this or not -- I think I've told him before -- has really changed my life. He wrote a book called Liberal Fascism, stuff I didn't even know. Nobody was taught. His dad was a real pioneer in this field and kept the torch alive. And Jonah has done such a great job to explain progressives and liberal fascism. And it opened my eyes to an entirely new world and changed the course of my life.

I love having him on and reading his points of view. And he has a lot to say about what's happening. So we're going to get an update on what happened yesterday, since we last met on -- in Washington, with the Comey letter. And McMaster. And -- and his press conference.

Also, next hour, a serial entrepreneur. The guy who started Priceline. He has about 900 patents to his name. He was called by Forbes, the Edison for a New Age. He's the guy who came up with the friend button on Facebook. I can't wait to get into this guy's head as a -- as an entrepreneur. That's next hour.

We begin this hour with Jonah Goldberg and what's happening in Washington. How do we make sense of it? Beginning, right now.

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GLENN: Welcome to the program, Jonah Goldberg. How are you, sir?

JONAH: Glenn, great to be here, and thanks for the kind words up front. That was great.

GLENN: Jonah, you're watching everything that is happening in Washington, DC, and trying to make sense of it. The media does not have any credibility at all on trying to say, "Rule of law. And, gee, we can't have somebody handle classified material, that doesn't know what they're doing with it." They have no credibility. It's a farce to watch them as they're talking about this, when we know what they did with Obama and Hillary Clinton.

However --

JONAH: Yeah --

GLENN: -- if we want to be consistent, we're watching this and saying, "This does not look good."

Can you take us through this, especially what happened yesterday?

JONAH: Yeah, no, that's right. I mean, look, as a big picture point, as I've been saying for a while, if hypocrisy were helium, we'd all have funny voices and some people would just float away.

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And it is absolutely -- as I keep saying to some of my friends on the right who are absolutely right, in their criticisms of the double standards of the mainstream media and how the mainstream media is freaking out about stuff that they yawned about under Barack Obama -- that's all a perfectly good point to make, and it's a good argument to make. But it's a necessary argument, but not a sufficient argument, in the sense that, if the things that Obama did -- and just to -- when Obama did X and the mainstream media didn't freak out, and you criticized the mainstream media for not freaking out, and then when Trump does X, and you criticize the mainstream media for freaking out -- well, you should be freaking out too since you're -- if you believe in the rule of law, you think Obama violated the rule of law, and you stomped your spoon on your high chair for eight years about what Obama was doing to violate the rule of law and then Trump violates the rule of law, and all you have to say is, "Look how hypocritical the New York Times is," well, then you're being a hypocrite too. You have a double standard too. You don't call out a Republican president for doing stuff that you condemned the Democratic president for. Fine. Call the New York Times a bunch of hypocrites, but you're being hypocritical too. And this is a huge problem on the right, with a lot of people trying to find this safe harbor of anti anti-Trumpism. They don't -- and they're absolutely right that, you know, much of the left-wing freakout, this resistance nonsense and all of that is absurd. I mean, so much of it has been, "Donald Trump put salt on his french fries. Hitler put salt on his french fries."

(laughter)

JONAH: It's that kind of nonsense. And I'm all for calling it out. But if that's all you're doing, you're a disservice. Because some of the things that Donald Trump has done are legitimately worth criticizing, which brings us to yesterday.

So we all remember -- I mean, it's amazing to -- you know, it's just barely a week. Barely over a week since Sally Yates testified. This -- the -- the space time continuum has been sort of accordioned in Washington. And it's this bizarre thing where each day sort of brings, usually right around my cocktail hour, which really ticks me off.

GLENN: 9:00 a.m.?

JONAH: Brings a new story -- well, yes, there is that.

(laughter)

Look, I have a tattoo that says, "If you don't start drinking in the morning, you can't claim that you were drinking all day."

But it's just -- so the White House, you know, announced that they fired Comey last week, turned out that the story that they brought out there was just flatly not believable, and turned out to be untrue within a couple days. Donald Trump told Lester Holt that he fired him because of the Russia investigation, which, from any other president would have everyone pulling their hair out because you're just not supposed to say that. You know, you're not supposed to say that you didn't like the investigation into your campaign or into you or whatever. And you called it off because you -- and you told -- and you fired the FBI director because it wasn't -- he didn't make it go away.

And so this sort of gets to us the core problem, is that Donald Trump's greatest defense is incompetence and ignorance. He doesn't know how the system works.

He doesn't have an appreciation that some rules and procedures that are traditional in a White House are there for a good reason.

I don't know if you guys remember, you know, the parable of -- of Chesterton's fence. G.K. Chesterton has this wonderful story, where he says -- he's talking about progressive reformers.

And he says the progressive reformer is the kind of guy who sees a fence in the middle of a field, has no idea why it's there, and says, let's tear it down because there's no good reason for it to be there. I can't imagine why it's there.

And Chesterton says, "The only time you have a reason to tear down the fence is once you understand why it was put up in the first place. Maybe it's keeping out the ice zombies and the white walkers." Who knows. And Donald Trump has contempt for all of the traditional rules, all the traditional procedures. And he wants to go off the cuff. And so when he does stuff like axe the FBI director, as we learned yesterday, to go easy on an investigation into Mike Flynn, the former national security adviser, it seems utterly plausible that, you know, he can just be like, "Oh, was I not supposed to do that?" You know, because he doesn't know -- you know, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. And the problem --

GLENN: But if you look at --

JONAH: One last point, the problem with the left is they all want to make it about Russia, collusion. You know, they want to go to 11 on all of this stuff. And they want to have it both ways. They did this with George W. Bush too. They wanted to say he's an idiot, and they want to say he's a genius mastermind of an international mastermind of a conspiracy. You can't have it both ways.

GLENN: Yeah. So I don't think he's a genius mastermind of a conspiracy. I think you're right. He has contempt for rules. He doesn't want to live by those rules. And, in fact, one of the sources that we talked to Erick Erickson about yesterday, he said, you know, look the guy is a huge Trump supporter, supported him all the way through the campaign. Erick said, I couldn't even talk to him during the campaign because he was so rabidly Trump. But he was one of the sources that has leaked the information about what really happened. And he said he's doing it because the president will not listen to any advice. He sees all advice as an attack on him. So he is isolated.

And he's saying, we have to leak it to the press, because we're hoping that he'll listen to the press more than -- you know, and have him driven back into our arms, saying, okay. What do I have to know about this?

He said, he's just out of control, and really bad things will happen if he doesn't start taking some common sense advice on, "No, Mr. President. We can't do that because of X, Y, Z." Now, we can find another way to do it, but we can't do that.

JONAH: No, look, I agree. I had a column -- I wrote a column for the L.A. Times yesterday. It's up at National Review today. Calling on Michael Pence. You know, Mike Pence is the one guy, the one constitutional officer in the executive branch that Donald Trump can't fire. And so he -- you know, all these other guys in the cabinet -- some of them I like, I respect a lot. All these people on the senior staff, some of whom I like and respect, they can all be fired. And they all seem to think that they have to audition every day for their job. Mike Pence doesn't.

And Mike Pence was humiliated by the president last week. And not for the first time. By going out and saying, "Oh, no, we fired Comey on the recommendation of the deputy attorney general, and it was all through proper procedure, and we had waited for the DAG to get there. Of course this has nothing to do with the Russian investigation." And then two days later, Donald Trump uses a capitulate to throw him under a bus.

And Mike Pence should march into the Oval Office and say, "Mr. President, if you do that again, I may have to resign and run against you in 2020, or I'm going to start speaking freely to the media on the record." You know, he can't be fired, and he would have an enormous bully pulpit.

GLENN: Okay. Wait. Hang on just a second. That was my advice for Hillary Clinton when Bill Clinton did this to her with the blue dress.

JONAH: Right.

GLENN: She should have marched out and said, he's still my president. I still agree with his policies, but no woman should be treated this way. And what we work out in our marriage is our business. Stay out of our marriage. But no woman should be treated that way. She would have been the most powerful woman in the world. She, however, decided to stay in, I think for her own power and everything else. And that was kind of the arrangement that they had.

With Pence, I wonder if Pence and McMaster, who I have great respect for -- although I saw him tap dance like nobody else yesterday. It was an amazing answer from him yesterday. And I'm wondering if these guys are saying to themselves, "Look, if I leave, I don't know who he's going to have for advice. And I'd rather be in here. And I'll take the hits for this, but we have got to get him on track and keep him in place. And who is going to replace me? It could be anyone."

JONAH: No, I agree with that. I have to assume that H.R. McMaster, to the extent that he kind of -- as you put it, tap danced and parsed over the last 48 hours, he was doing it either to protect national security by minimizing the damage of this story, or because he thinks that if I'm not in there, we're going to go back to someone like Mike Flynn or worse, and I need to keep, you know, things operating in as professional manner as possible. I have to think it was a patriotism in some way or another.

GLENN: I think so too. He's an amazingly credible man. And he knows -- I mean, what he said yesterday was, anything the president wants to do is appropriate, legally it's appropriate.

Then they asked, so did he do anything appropriate? No. Well, he just said anything he wants to do is appropriate. And he must -- he knows that to come out with Jerusalem as the city and the Israelis, that is wildly damaging to our spy apparatus. Wildly damaging.

JEFFY: Although, I still think there's a possibility that Israel is taking one for the team, and that it was actually Jordan. Because --

GLENN: Wow.

JONAH: -- you know, it's not like Israel is going to break its relationship with us over this. They understand, and they've got all this stuff coming up on this visit that's of bigger importance. But if Jordan had been revealed as the source, it could have really -- I don't know. Who knows.

GLENN: Wow. Wow.

JONAH: But, look, I wrote this the other day. I keep thinking that poor Reince Priebus and Mike Pence and these other guys, I honestly think their hearts are in the right place. I imagine all of them, like Jerry McGuire in the locker room, begging Cuba Gooding Jr., "Help me, help you." You know, I mean, it's like, if Trump could just get a little discipline, you know, and get sort of -- a little less addicted, a little weaned off the drama and the reality show vibe that he clearly thrives on, he could still get important things accomplished. But it's like you can't break through to him.

And this thing about, you know, back channeling to him through the media, that's been going on since day one. I mean, that's the only reason why I actually liked watching Morning Joe so much for the first couple of months of the administration, is because it's like reading Pravda. You know, you just never know who is like signaling from what point of the PoleP euro through the press, to the first among equals.

And I think that that's -- but that's a problem. If he's consuming and getting all of his advice filtered through what he sees on Fox & Friends or printed out from Breitbart.com, that is no way to run a country.

GLENN: Okay. I only have one minute. One more question.

STU: Politically, Jonah, isn't it the issue here that his surrogates, their most effective defense is to basically say he's incompetent, he's new, he's trying to figure this stuff out? But that's also simultaneously, the one thing that they absolutely under any circumstances cannot say.

JONAH: No, that's right. And that's why -- and I wrote about this months ago -- they fall back on this he's a man of action, he's a man of wisdom. He knows things that we don't know.

And the problem with that kind of rhetoric is that it may work for a moment politically -- although, it's credibility is diminishing -- but that's also cult of personality talk. You know, that is not how conservatives, that's not how people in a democracy are supposed to talk is just say, well, he's the president, and he has the supreme judgment, and who are we to question it? The whole point of democracy is to question the judgment of your political leaders. But that's where the surrogates have to go. And I don't think it works for them very much at all anymore. And it doesn't help send off anybody who isn't sort of already in the tank.

GLENN: Jonah, 30 seconds. Can you tell me what we should watch for? What's the good sign or a bad sign that we should watch for?

JONAH: Well, if the rivers turn to blood...

(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

JONAH: I don't want to send any of your advertisers -- buy gold.

(laughter)

GLENN: Jonah, God bless you, man. Thank you very much.

JONAH: Good to be with you guys. Thank you.

GLENN: Jonah Goldberg, senior editor of the National Review.

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The Most SHOCKING Moments of Glenn's White House Visit with Trump

Glenn shares behind-the-scenes stories from his incredible trip to Washington, DC, and the White House. When Glenn sat down for an exclusive interview with President Trump, he didn’t think Trump would also give him a personal tour of the White House, including the Oval Office, his latest troll of Hillary Clinton, and even his personal residence and the Lincoln Bedroom. Glenn describes the historic treasures Trump showed him, like a copy of the Gettysburg Address. But Glenn can’t tell his favorite parts of the day because of an NDA. But he gives a hint: Trump is NOT at all who the media portrays him as.

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

STU: Welcome back, Glenn. Back from DC.

GLENN: Thank you. Interesting week.

STU: I bet it was.

GLENN: Interesting week.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Learned an awful lot. I've got to go up at least a quarter. Every quarter. There is so much going on. It is moving so fast. And you get a -- you get a completely different perspective when you're actually there talking to the people that are moving the pieces. And I had a lot of conversations that I can't divulge on the air.

I can't say, unfortunately -- I was with the president yesterday.

And it was an incredible, absolutely incredible -- and the thing I was most excited to share was his heart. He -- it was amazing.

Did the interview. Went into the Oval Office. And he left me alone with my wife in the Oval Office for like five minutes. Now, I'm like.

He was lucky, I didn't go through the drawers.

You know, I look -- where is that little hidden puzzle piece, that I saw on national archive.

But, I mean, he left us alone for five minutes. Nobody is left alone in the Oval for five minutes.

And he walks in five minutes later. Tania was so uncomfortable. Like, I don't know what to say.

What do I do?

And I'm like, they said, make yourself comfortable.

So have a seat, wherever you want. You know, probably not behind the desk. But have a seat. So we just go around. And I was alone with the Declaration of Independence. I mean, it was incredible in the Oval Office!

STU: Any part of you think, maybe I just kind of put -- fold it up. Put it in my pocket. Nobody notices. None of that?

GLENN: No. Uh-uh.

STU: Darn it.

GLENN: This is the first time I've been in the Oval Office. The first time you're overwhelmed. The first time you're like -- because it's a magical place. It really is a magical place.

STU: Sure.

GLENN: And so he said, he walks in. And he's like, you know, nobody -- I'm like.

STU: He said, what?

GLENN: Nobody sits in here without the president. Or, you know, without somebody else.

STU: Right. Yeah, that's really rare.

GLENN: And I said, I'm aware of that. He said, but I knew you would want to look at everything. So I thought you would be more comfortable if you were here by yourself. Oh, it was fantastic.

So we sit down. We talk. We go do the interview. And while we were talking in the Oval, we were conversing about a few things. And he said, and Abraham Lincoln came up. We were talking -- he is well-versed on the presidents. He is becoming a historian. He really is! He's really done his homework.

And he said, are you a fan of Abraham Lincoln? I said, yeah. And he said, you ever been to the Lincoln bedroom? I said, no. Want to go?

I'm like, wait. Of course I do. Yes. Let's do this interview.

So we do the interview. And he -- I'm told, he only has 40 minutes. Now we've just eaten ten.

And so we go. We do the interview. And his aides are cutting us off. And I'm like, I've got at least ten more minutes of questions.

And so we're getting cut off. And as we stop. His aide says, sir, the National Security Council is waiting for you.

And he says, right. I'm going to take them to the Lincoln bedroom first.

And they're like, the security counsel is meeting right now. They're waiting for you.

He said, let them wait. I'm going to take -- so he takes us, the longest way possible. He takes us through the entire White House, room by room.

Shows us all of the meanings behind things. All of the amazing, amazing -- like nobody knows about the White House. Takes us to the -- takes us to the basement, which is not really the basement. You know, it's the actual first floor where all of the guests come in. And they come up the grand staircase and everything else.

But it's the basement. And he's walking through. And he's showing me a troll, first of all.

I have to show you these paintings. I just see this painting of Laura Bush. And Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton. Up on a wall. He said, I walk by them every day.

And I say, this is not right. And he said, and then I got this painting of me. And, you know, it's me, with the flag face. Looking kind of tough.

And he said, I thought I put them between the two. And it had just gone viral. Just released a picture of him. And just gone viral.

It was a troll. The guy is just trolling. And he said, yeah. Don't you love it?

I just think it works. This trio really works. And I said, can I get a snap of them?

So we did this picture, the two of us, you know, on the ground floor of the White House. The tour goes by this every day.

Okay?

And all of a sudden, this thing goes viral. And they start -- memes start to be made, with J.D. Vance. In the pictures, they change -- people just started changing all the pictures behind us.

This is a meme before -- you know, going off before we finished.

And then he takes us upstairs. Takes us through all these things.

And the -- the aides keep gathering. There's like 20 of them now, following us. And I keep hearing, sir, the national security is waiting. He's like, I know. I know.

And so we got up to the executive residence. And the reason why he had to give us -- the reason why he had to do this tour, is because you're not allowed in the residence. And you're not allowed into the Lincoln bedroom, without the president of the United States.

It's the only one that can do it.

Melania cannot come down and do the tour.

It has to be the president. He's telling them. I'm sorry. But rules are rules. And so he takes us up, into the Lincoln bedroom.

It was the most incredible thing I have -- I mean, it's like -- it's a time capsule. It's really his bed. Which is about 6 inches longer than like the big king-size bed. It might have been longer than a California queen. It was very narrow.

Like, obviously, you know, he's not like Hugh Hefner. It's a very narrow bed.

But very, very long.

The mirror on one hand was extended to, you know, for somebody who is like six-nine, I think. Barron could use that mirror.

And then on the other side of the room is a writing desk.

And on this one table, all these things about his son. Lincoln's son who had died. And this really eerie picture of Lincoln. This painting.

And the president said, that was his favorite painting of himself. And it's really. It was spooky almost.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And I couldn't take a picture. You're not allowed to take any photos in the Lincoln bedroom.

And I was so bummed because I couldn't wait to show them we. But they're in his writing desk. And on it, is the Gettysburg address. One of four of the Gettysburg addresses. He gave -- Lincoln was at Gettysburg. And said, Mr. President. That was a great speech.

Do you have a copy of it? And he said, sure. And hands him a speech.

And says, here. This is a New York reporter. Takes it. Types it up, and then throws it away.

So during the war, Lincoln writes four copies of the Gettysburg address.

In the four copies, only two of them say, this nation under God. Two of them don't say that. And we don't know why.

But the one there says, this nation under God. So it was just almost like a spiritual thing. We come down, and we're ending the tour.

And I said, I have to ask. I said, I know you're Donald J. Trump. But -- now, what do you think I'm going to ask. Because he cuts me off right there, and he tries to answer. And I was amazed that he knew what I was even going to ask. Where do you think I'm at? I know you're Donald J. Trump, but --

STU: I mean, it could be anything obviously.

GLENN: He said every day, and that's the right answer! But I didn't still know if he knew what I was talking. And I say, every day?

And he said every day, Glenn. I wake up every day, and I -- I say to myself, I can't believe I'm in this house.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: I mean, he's still humble about it. He's still -- he respects that place. I mean, a lot of the -- well, he didn't tell me this. So I don't think I signed anything about it.

He didn't tell me this.

So the -- the word is, that Hillary stole a lot of the glass door knobs at the White House. Okay. That's the word.

Don't if it's true.

But stole them. He came in, and he redid all of the doorknobs, and they are beautiful. This guy has put serious money into the White House.

And he's never going to get any credit. And the rumor was, on those doorknobs, that they were going to take them out. I don't know if they did on Biden. But they don't want any of the Trump stuff in there. And took out the doorknobs.

But he's -- he's poured a ton of money upgrading that house, and he'll never get credit for it.

But he deserves it. All right. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what we talked about on the important stuff here in just a second.

STU: So you were able to go through all of this, and look at all these incredible documents.

This is kind of like your fantasy league life, right?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

STU: Every document you could ever want. Every piece of history you could ever look at.

You would spend no time actually being president, if you were president.


GLENN: I don't know when this guy has time. I really don't.

Some of the Secret Service guys said, he's here, in the middle of the night, working on stuff.

He'll do full day.

Then he's there. Who is up at this hour?

It's him.

STU: That's not the way the media presents him.

They say, he's watching TV.

Watching Fox news all day.

GLENN: Oh, there's no way.

This guy has learned so much.

There's no way I had a conversation with him, five, six years ago. No way.

STU: You notice a difference?

GLENN: Oh, huge. His learning curve is straight-up.

Absolutely straight-up.

And in the interview. There's nothing. I could have said things.

Remember the nuclear triad question that he was hit with?

Where he didn't really -- there's not a question I could ask him, where he doesn't know the answer.

Literally. Literally.

I mean, everything I ask him off-air or on-air, he's there. He knows it. If it's happening in the world, he knows it. I don't know how he keeps up like this.

STU: It is -- I mean, his energy level is impressive. There's no doubt about that.

I don't know. The bar was set pretty low the last four years. But his -- that's been one of the things, I don't think there's ever been really much at -- disagreement on.

The fact that we -- we did, years ago, went around with candidates, around Iowa, for example. Just in campaigning, and it was like, oh, gosh. By the end of the weekend, I wanted to sleep for a week.
Because it was just so much.

Running around. Doing -- can't imagine being president of the United States. He's always energized.

GLENN: He's always energized. I mean, and I saw him. When I got on to the plane last night. Because I know, he went from -- he went from my interview, directly to the National Security Council.

And then by the time I'm sitting at the airport, there's a video of him meeting with the people that were in the lobby, waiting for him all of these veterans.

And he's doing stuff with veterans on TV.

I mean, the guy is just boom, boom, boom.

Remember Joe Biden was like, he'll have -- he'll have some pudding.

STU: Oh, yeah. The pudding and the lid.

GLENN: And the lid. And that's it.

This guy is going non-stop.

STU: Obviously, we're just setting up the main course here.

Which is your interview with him.

That airs on Blaze TV tonight.

GLENN: It was on last night.

STU: I watched it on Blaze TV last night. It airs on YouTube tonight.

But, you know, you guys went into -- every -- every topic. Any questions he didn't -- you know, he didn't think he wanted to go to or wasn't comfortable with. Is there anything that he was off-limits? Anything like that?

No. He was joking with me. He was going across the hallway. He said, after the interview, he said no. Try to be kind to me.

Well, if you don't, I'll just say, he's over. He's worthless. He'll do whatever you want.
(laughter)

But, no. There was nothing. In fact, we didn't -- you know, we wouldn't. And we didn't give him any indication. Other than it was about the 100 days. And everything that's gone down the last 100 days and were coming.

So that's pretty broad. He said a few things.

And I want to give I one of them here. We were talking about the tariffs.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And I said, you know, how do you negotiate, when you have a group of elites like the WEF. When you have China who is against you.

And the world trade -- or, the World Economic Forum.

All the elites in England.

That are -- they're fine with the great, Great Reset. How do you negotiate with people who don't mind blowing the whole thing up?

Listen to this.

DONALD: I don't have to negotiate. I don't have to negotiate. I'm talking to people out of respect. But I don't have to. So we're this giant store that people want to come in and buy bye from. We're the United States. We have the richest consumer, et cetera, et cetera. Right?

But we're not going to be that way for long if we do something. But we're this giant store, and they all want to come in and take our product. But to take our product, they are going to have to pay.

And we will either make a deal with them, or we will just set a price. Because some countries are worse than others. Some countries have ripped us off really badly, and some countries have just ripped us off a little bit, but almost all of them have ripped us off. Because we've had really poor leadership. And what's going to happen, is we're going to negotiate -- we are negotiating with 70 different countries. But we're negotiating. We're showing great respect. But in the end, we may make deals. But either that, or I just set a price. I said, here's what you will pay for the privilege of servicing the United States of America.

And they have an option. They can maybe talk to me a little bit. Or they can not jump.

You know, they don't have to shop at this big store. Or they can shop.

But in any event, they will have to pay. Look, we owe 36 trillion for a reason.

The reason is: The trade. Also, the endless wars, the stupid wars that we fought. We're going to the Middle East. We blow up. We leave. We don't get anything.

And you're a big fan of exactly what I'm saying. I mean, let's not do this. Let's not do that.

It's stupid. Endless wars. Endless wars. That they don't even want us. You know, we got into wars. They didn't even want us.

So all of that stuff. You know, when I left four years ago, you know, we had no wars. We had no Israel and Hamas. And, by the way, it would have never happened. Because their enemies were broke.

They were broke.

I have sanctions so strong on Iran.

They were totally broke. They had no money for Hamas and Hezbollah. We didn't have Russia-Ukraine. That would have never happened by the way. We didn't have the Afghanistan embarrassment. One of the great embarrassments in the history of our country.

We didn't have any inflation. Don't forget, I charged China hundreds of billions worth of tariffs. They talk about inflation. We had no inflation.

Because that doesn't cause inflation.

Stupidity causes inflation. High energy causes inflation. When they took over my energy -- we were making it like nobody has ever seen.

GLENN: I know.

DONALD: And then the prices doubled. By the way, because of that, Putin went in. You see what's going on now. It's going down.

GLENN: Yeah, I do.

DONALD: It makes it much harder for Putin to prosecute the war.

GLENN: It was fascinating.

We talked about a few things.

Judicial insurrection. Was one of them!

Another pretty strong response on that one, as well.
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SNEAK PEEK: Glenn Gives a Tour of the Roosevelt Room in the White House

Ahead of his First 100 Days interview with President Trump, Glenn gives an exclusive tour of the Roosevelt Room: Theodore Roosevelt’s Nobel Peace Prize and Medal of Honor, Barack Obama’s private papers, and the legendary doorknobs that Trump installed in the White House.

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EXCLUSIVE: Trump Tells the INCREDIBLE Story of Elon Musk, Nikola Tesla, and His Uncle

Immediately after his First 100 Days interview with President Trump, Glenn knew he had to ask one more question, even if it was off the record: How incredible is it that Trump is working with today’s Nikola Tesla, Elon Musk, when Trump's uncle was the man put in charge of sifting through Tesla’s files when he died?! But instead of having a private conversation, Trump decided to let Glenn’s audience hear the story too …

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Why President Trump Is NOT "Negotiating" with Global Elites | First 100 Days | Glenn TV | Ep 429

In just his first 100 days in office, President Trump has moved faster to fix America than anyone expected. He created the DOGE, shut the border down, dismantled USAID and its wasteful spending, and put the world on notice that it can’t take advantage of America any more. But there’s still much more to do, and Americans have questions about what’s next. Glenn sits down with the president in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for his first one-on-one interview about his first 100 days. Glenn asks Trump what the real goal of his tariffs is, whether Elon Musk is really stepping back from the DOGE, whether Mexico is a failed narco-state, what his plans are for the cartels, and how he may react to the “judicial insurrection” of judges blocking his deportation orders. Trump also reveals his game-changing plans for AI and American energy, why he’s not “negotiating” with Europe or the world, whether Putin or Zelenskyy has been easier to deal with, and why he believes Glenn will “be surprised” by congressional Republicans soon.

►BONUS CONTENT: See my exclusive tour of the Roosevelt Room and don’t miss President Trump’s extended interview, where he shares how his uncle—once the government’s go-to expert on Nikola Tesla’s files—is now connected to today’s Tesla, Elon Musk. These are must-see moments you won’t find anywhere else. Watch now at BlazeTV.com/Glenn.