Could the Comey Debacle Bring Us a President Pence?

May 11, 2017

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The firing of James Comey is turning into a very big nightmare for Donald Trump. Apparently, this decision was not made because of emails from the Justice Department. According to The Washington Post, 30 sources have leaked information about what really caused Trump to fire the director of the FBI --- and it doesn't look good.

"Have you ever seen a White House leak like this?" Glenn asked Thursday on radio.

He then speculated about the possibility of Watergate-style hearings by August or September.

"Is there a chance, in your opinion, do you believe we could be looking at a President Pence by 2020?" Glenn asked.

Listen to this segment from The Glenn Beck Program:

GLENN: They're grilling the acting FBI director now. McCabe. He says that he believes they have adequate resources for the Russian investigation now. He says that the White House has not interfered to his knowledge at all in that investigation. And, remember, this is not a guy who is a Trump guy. He's a guy who, you know, I believe was -- was he Clinton or Obama-appointed? He's not a Republican appointed guy.

STU: It's interesting that -- because, you know, one of the reports was that Comey asked for money a week before -- more resources a week before this investigation. It's been denied by the Department of Justice. There are a couple of places that are reporting it. Who knows if it's true.

But I don't get the sense -- and I could be wrong on this. I don't get the sense that this means Trump has something he's hiding specifically on Russia.

GLENN: No.

STU: Or he's about -- like they were about to get him --

GLENN: I don't think that at all. I think Trump was personally motivated and against this guy.

STU: Personally annoyed. He was personally annoyed that he didn't back him enough. And it looks to I think every person outside the White House, at least your initial instinct is, wait a minute. This guy fired the guy who was in the middle of this information. Like, wait a minute. What's going on here?

And I think that's what the Democrats want you to believe. It may be true. I don't know. But to me, it comes off more as, he was annoyed by this guy, who he may have thought because of the letter he sent, you know, a few days before the election, was kind of on his side. Wasn't always saying things that were on his side. And it annoyed him. And that kind of -- and there is reporting to kind of back that up as well.

GLENN: By only 30 sources. But that's -- but that's all. Have you ever seen a White House leak like this?

STU: Not that I can remember. And a lot of people are trying to say --

GLENN: What is your guess? Where does this end, Stu? How does this end?

STU: Wow, I -- I don't know the answer to that. I really don't. I mean, I can't --

GLENN: If I said to you, we were in impeachment hearings, the -- the Senate was -- not in a trial, but we are in like Watergate-style hearings in August or September, would that surprise you at all?

STU: In August or September? That's really fast, but it's possible.

And let's just take this out -- because if you're thinking, like, "Oh -- you know, Trump is your guy, you're probably annoyed by that. But I think like -- the better way to look at it -- I always look at these things as personal motivations.

And what he's done with a lot of these moves -- when he calls people out publicly. And he says they're not doing a good job -- there are hundreds of people in the FBI that are viscerally loyal to James Comey.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: And those people are now motivated to act against the interests of the president of the United States.

GLENN: So stupid.

STU: And this is through several different parts of the administration and the infrastructure of the federal government.

So that's -- and that doesn't make what the -- I'm not saying they're going to make stuff up. I don't think that's the case. But they're motivated and they are looking to say to themselves, "This guy is screwing us, we need to get back at him." Or just, you know what, I'm -- it's not even that. That's the far reach. Right?

GLENN: If our FBI is like that, we're in trouble.

STU: And it's not just the FBI.

GLENN: Right. I know that. But in particular, here the FBI -- if they're doing an investigation. And they're like, "Pin it on him," that's bad.

STU: No. No.

GLENN: But I think they would be -- I think that you would be more motivated to turn over every single stone.

STU: Partially, because you have a personal loyalty to someone who you think is wronged and partially I think because you think to yourself, "Maybe there is something here where I didn't think there was."

You know, you're going to start seeing things through a different prism. And, you know, while Donald Trump may not have done anything wrong at all --

GLENN: I don't think he did.

STU: -- people like Michael Flynn did. They've been fired for it already.

GLENN: I really don't think Donald Trump -- I mean, you want to make him into this big evil super villain, I just don't think he is. I mean, go to The Economist today where he thought he invented priming the pump. He really thinks he came up with that economic theory, two days ago.

So I just don't think he is -- he's not that deep of a thinker. It doesn't mean he's not smart and everything else. He's just not that deep of a thinker. So I just don't see him with some master plan of coercion or working with the -- with the Russians behind the scenes. I think others around him may have been involved in things that weren't the best. And then they got involved back in with his campaign. And they were like, "I'm just not going to say anything." I think that happened. But I don't think there's collusion between -- I would be surprised if there's collusion. But we have to know. We have to know.

STU: Right.

And, look, the bottom line is, Republicans are generally speaking going to stand behind him, if his polls stay in the high 30s. There's a Quinnipiac poll today, I think it was 36 percent approval rating. That thing starts hitting the 20s, you're going to start seeing a lot of these people who have no spines and don't believe either side of this, they're going to start fleeing from him. And as that goes, it gets much more difficult for him to hold on to what he is holding on to.

So I think if --

GLENN: Is there a chance, in your opinion, do you believe we could be looking at a President Pence by 2020? Not elected, President Pence?

STU: I mean, it's funny you say that. Because you can put your money where your mouth is on that. And the odds are not -- like the odds are not crazy. Like you -- because you can go to these betting sites. PredictWise, I think has one on this.

GLENN: For the first time I think there is a chance that we're looking at an unelected President Pence by 2020.

STU: I think it's possible.

GLENN: I do.

STU: I generally think those things are unlikely.

GLENN: I do too. But I didn't think it was even possible. I didn't say probable. I said possible.

JEFFY: Possible.

STU: When will Trump leave office?

Okay. Right now. This is from -- this is a betting market summary.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: 2020 or later. So that means he fills the first term. It's 51 percent.

JEFFY: Wow.

STU: So just over half. They're saying there's a chance -- again, these are the betting markets. People are putting money on this.

GLENN: 49 percent say he's not going to make it through his first term.

STU: He's not going to make it through his first term.

GLENN: And I think there's a chance that he doesn't even make it to impeachment. I think there's a chance that he gets so surrounded by Indians. And they're like, "Don, it ain't going to work out well." And he's like, "Fine. Screw it." And he resigns to go back to do his -- whatever it is.

JEFFY: I had a much happier life.

GLENN: Yeah, I had a much happier life. I'm just not -- I just don't want to do it.

Whatever. I just don't want to do it. Whatever. I don't know what he would say.

STU: Right. He finds a way, I did my job. I got all this stuff done.

You know, he comes up with some justification and says bye.

GLENN: Right.

STU: It's not impossible. Again, there's no reason -- we're not there obviously. But it's an interesting thing that people are talking about it so openly.

'Rage against the dying of the light': Charlie Kirk lived that mandate

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Kirk’s tragic death challenges us to rise above fear and anger, to rebuild bridges where others build walls, and to fight for the America he believed in.

I’ve only felt this weight once before. It was 2001, just as my radio show was about to begin. The World Trade Center fell, and I was called to speak immediately. I spent the day and night by my bedside, praying for words that could meet the moment.

Yesterday, I found myself in the same position. September 11, 2025. The assassination of Charlie Kirk. A friend. A warrior for truth.

Out of this tragedy, the tyrant dies, but the martyr’s influence begins.

Moments like this make words feel inadequate. Yet sometimes, words from another time speak directly to our own. In 1947, Dylan Thomas, watching his father slip toward death, penned lines that now resonate far beyond his own grief:

Do not go gentle into that good night. / Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Thomas was pleading for his father to resist the impending darkness of death. But those words have become a mandate for all of us: Do not surrender. Do not bow to shadows. Even when the battle feels unwinnable.

Charlie Kirk lived that mandate. He knew the cost of speaking unpopular truths. He knew the fury of those who sought to silence him. And yet he pressed on. In his life, he embodied a defiance rooted not in anger, but in principle.

Picking up his torch

Washington, Jefferson, Adams — our history was started by men who raged against an empire, knowing the gallows might await. Lincoln raged against slavery. Martin Luther King Jr. raged against segregation. Every generation faces a call to resist surrender.

It is our turn. Charlie’s violent death feels like a knockout punch. Yet if his life meant anything, it means this: Silence in the face of darkness is not an option.

He did not go gently. He spoke. He challenged. He stood. And now, the mantle falls to us. To me. To you. To every American.

We cannot drift into the shadows. We cannot sit quietly while freedom fades. This is our moment to rage — not with hatred, not with vengeance, but with courage. Rage against lies, against apathy, against the despair that tells us to do nothing. Because there is always something you can do.

Even small acts — defiance, faith, kindness — are light in the darkness. Reaching out to those who mourn. Speaking truth in a world drowning in deceit. These are the flames that hold back the night. Charlie carried that torch. He laid it down yesterday. It is ours to pick up.

The light may dim, but it always does before dawn. Commit today: I will not sleep as freedom fades. I will not retreat as darkness encroaches. I will not be silent as evil forces claim dominion. I have no king but Christ. And I know whom I serve, as did Charlie.

Two turning points, decades apart

On Wednesday, the world changed again. Two tragedies, separated by decades, bound by the same question: Who are we? Is this worth saving? What kind of people will we choose to be?

Imagine a world where more of us choose to be peacemakers. Not passive, not silent, but builders of bridges where others erect walls. Respect and listening transform even the bitterest of foes. Charlie Kirk embodied this principle.

He did not strike the weak; he challenged the powerful. He reached across divides of politics, culture, and faith. He changed hearts. He sparked healing. And healing is what our nation needs.

At the center of all this is one truth: Every person is a child of God, deserving of dignity. Change will not happen in Washington or on social media. It begins at home, where loneliness and isolation threaten our souls. Family is the antidote. Imperfect, yes — but still the strongest source of stability and meaning.

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Forgiveness, fidelity, faithfulness, and honor are not dusty words. They are the foundation of civilization. Strong families produce strong citizens. And today, Charlie’s family mourns. They must become our family too. We must stand as guardians of his legacy, shining examples of the courage he lived by.

A time for courage

I knew Charlie. I know how he would want us to respond: Multiply his courage. Out of this tragedy, the tyrant dies, but the martyr’s influence begins. Out of darkness, great and glorious things will sprout — but we must be worthy of them.

Charlie Kirk lived defiantly. He stood in truth. He changed the world. And now, his torch is in our hands. Rage, not in violence, but in unwavering pursuit of truth and goodness. Rage against the dying of the light.

This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.

Glenn Beck resurrects the 9-12 Project to support Charlie Kirk's family

Glenn Beck is once again calling on his loyal listeners and viewers to come together and channel the same unity and purpose that defined the historic 9-12 Project. That movement, born in the wake of national challenges, brought millions together to revive core values of faith, hope, and charity.

Glenn created the original 9-12 Project in early 2009 to bring Americans back to where they were in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. In those moments, we weren't Democrats and Republicans, conservative or liberal, Red States or Blue States, we were united as one, as America. The original 9-12 Project aimed to root America back in the founding principles of this country that united us during those darkest of days.

This new initiative draws directly from that legacy, focusing on supporting the family of Charlie Kirk in these dark days following his tragic murder.

The revival of the 9-12 Project aims to secure the long-term well-being of Charlie Kirk's wife and children. All donations will go straight to meeting their immediate and future needs. If the family deems the funds surplus to their requirements, Charlie's wife has the option to redirect them toward the vital work of Turning Point USA.

This campaign is more than just financial support—it's a profound gesture of appreciation for Kirk's tireless dedication to the cause of liberty. It embodies the unbreakable bond of our community, proving that when we stand united, we can make a real difference.
Glenn Beck invites you to join this effort. Show your solidarity by donating today and honoring Charlie Kirk and his family in this meaningful way.

You can learn more about the 9-12 Project and donate HERE

The critical difference: Rights from the Creator, not the state

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When politicians claim that rights flow from the state, they pave the way for tyranny.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) recently delivered a lecture that should alarm every American. During a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, he argued that believing rights come from a Creator rather than government is the same belief held by Iran’s theocratic regime.

Kaine claimed that the principles underpinning Iran’s dictatorship — the same regime that persecutes Sunnis, Jews, Christians, and other minorities — are also the principles enshrined in our Declaration of Independence.

In America, rights belong to the individual. In Iran, rights serve the state.

That claim exposes either a profound misunderstanding or a reckless indifference to America’s founding. Rights do not come from government. They never did. They come from the Creator, as the Declaration of Independence proclaims without qualification. Jefferson didn’t hedge. Rights are unalienable — built into every human being.

This foundation stands worlds apart from Iran. Its leaders invoke God but grant rights only through clerical interpretation. Freedom of speech, property, religion, and even life itself depend on obedience to the ruling clerics. Step outside their dictates, and those so-called rights vanish.

This is not a trivial difference. It is the essence of liberty versus tyranny. In America, rights belong to the individual. The government’s role is to secure them, not define them. In Iran, rights serve the state. They empower rulers, not the people.

From Muhammad to Marx

The same confusion applies to Marxist regimes. The Soviet Union’s constitutions promised citizens rights — work, health care, education, freedom of speech — but always with fine print. If you spoke out against the party, those rights evaporated. If you practiced religion openly, you were charged with treason. Property and voting were allowed as long as they were filtered and controlled by the state — and could be revoked at any moment. Rights were conditional, granted through obedience.

Kaine seems to be advocating a similar approach — whether consciously or not. By claiming that natural rights are somehow comparable to sharia law, he ignores the critical distinction between inherent rights and conditional privileges. He dismisses the very principle that made America a beacon of freedom.

Jefferson and the founders understood this clearly. “We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights,” they wrote. No government, no cleric, no king can revoke them. They exist by virtue of humanity itself. The government exists to protect them, not ration them.

This is not a theological quibble. It is the entire basis of our government. Confuse the source of rights, and tyranny hides behind piety or ideology. The people are disempowered. Clerics, bureaucrats, or politicians become arbiters of what rights citizens may enjoy.

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Gifts from God, not the state

Kaine’s statement reflects either a profound ignorance of this principle or an ideological bias that favors state power over individual liberty. Either way, Americans must recognize the danger. Understanding the origin of rights is not academic — it is the difference between freedom and submission, between the American experiment and theocratic or totalitarian rule.

Rights are not gifts from the state. They are gifts from God, secured by reason, protected by law, and defended by the people. Every American must understand this. Because when rights come from government instead of the Creator, freedom disappears.

This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.

POLL: Is America’s next generation trading freedom for equity?

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A recent poll conducted by Justin Haskins, a long-time friend of the show, has uncovered alarming trends among young Americans aged 18-39, revealing a generation grappling with deep frustrations over economic hardships, housing affordability, and a perceived rigged system that favors the wealthy, corporations, and older generations. While nearly half of these likely voters approve of President Trump, seeing him as an anti-establishment figure, over 70% support nationalizing major industries, such as healthcare, energy, and big tech, to promote "equity." Shockingly, 53% want a democratic socialist to win the 2028 presidential election, including a third of Trump voters and conservatives in this age group. Many cite skyrocketing housing costs, unfair taxation on the middle class, and a sense of being "stuck" or in crisis as driving forces, with 62% believing the economy is tilted against them and 55% backing laws to confiscate "excess wealth" like second homes or luxury items to help first-time buyers.

This blend of Trump support and socialist leanings suggests a volatile mix: admiration for disruptors who challenge the status quo, coupled with a desire for radical redistribution to address personal struggles. Yet, it raises profound questions about the roots of this discontent—Is it a failure of education on history's lessons about socialism's failures? Media indoctrination? Or genuine systemic barriers? And what does it portend for the nation’s trajectory—greater division, a shift toward authoritarian policies, or an opportunity for renewal through timeless values like hard work and individual responsibility?

Glenn wants to know what YOU think: Where do Gen Z's socialist sympathies come from? What does it mean for the future of America? Make your voice heard in the poll below:

Do you believe the Gen Z support for socialism comes from perceived economic frustrations like unaffordable housing and a rigged system favoring the wealthy and corporations?

Do you believe the Gen Z support for socialism, including many Trump supporters, is due to a lack of education about the historical failures of socialist systems?

Do you think that these poll results indicate a growing generational divide that could lead to more political instability and authoritarian tendencies in America's future?

Do you think that this poll implies that America's long-term stability relies on older generations teaching Gen Z and younger to prioritize self-reliance, free-market ideals, and personal accountability?

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