BLOGMay 08, 2017

Lawrence Jones Receives Death Threats After Challenging Liberal Narrative on Health Care

Comedian Wanda Sykes recently appeared on The View, labeling critics of Obamacare as racist. Lawrence Jones, host of The Lawrence Jones Show on The Blaze, appeared Saturday on Fox and Friends Weekend to respond and talk about how liberals have failed the black community, particularly in the area of health care.

His stance ruffled the feathers of white progressives, one of whom called him a traitor to his community and issued a death threat. Jones joined Glenn in studio on Monday to discuss what he calls the "comical" response from liberals.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: So one of the guys -- one of the guys who is taking a really hard stand -- and it's not going to matter who is in office, is Lawrence Jones, who works for TheBlaze. And over the weekend, he went on to Fox to eviscerate Wanda Sykes for -- for labeling Obamacare repeal as racist. She said that on The View. And here is what Lawrence said over the weekend.

VOICE: Sizzle. That's it. They hate having a black -- they want to get rid of it. That's what it is.

LAWRENCE: Well, I just think it's quite comical that the liberals are so concerned about black America, when they have filled my community for years, especially when it comes to health care, especially when it comes to jobs.

I think it's important to note, Abi, that that 30-hour rule in Obamacare affected my community harshly. A lot of us weren't able to get jobs and couldn't get the necessary hours because of that 30-hour rule. So I think it's really comical that the liberals are all of a sudden concerned about black America.

GLENN: Now, what happened after that? Lawrence Jones is here to tell us.

LAWRENCE: Yes. I got a slew of death threats. And a lot of these were white progressives. This one guy said, "A white-loving black person that is a traitor to his people. He deserves to be strung up."

GLENN: So a very compassionate white progressive.

LAWRENCE: Right. Right.

JEFFY: No kidding.

GLENN: Was advocating for lynching.

LAWRENCE: Right. And I finally figured out why they're doing this now. Because it used to be some black folks saying, "You're Uncle Tom." And now those people are starting to die out. Because I've started to really connect with my community. They know I'm banging the left. I'm banging the right. I'm consistent on my belief system. I'm advocating for them.

GLENN: You used to be --

LAWRENCE: So now they're --

GLENN: You used to be a guy who -- you voted for -- you campaigned for Barack Obama.

LAWRENCE: Yeah, campaigned for him. Got trained by the left.

GLENN: When you were a teenager.

LAWRENCE: Went to DC. Hung around Nancy Pelosi. All of them. And I saw the light. And I didn't go to the Republican Party. I became a conservative Libertarian. And now I'm fighting for the issues. I'm not concerned about political parties. It's about the issues. And so it's kind of comical to me to watch the left try to attack me and say, "Hey, you're a shill for the right." When I supported the guy.

GLENN: So why do you think they're doing it?

LAWRENCE: Because they see me connecting with my community. And they have this hold on them right now, where they continue to make emotional arguments that the right is racist. How am I racist? I'm fighting for you. I'm connecting with you. And so they seek to discredit me, saying I'm a shill. I'm a sellout. How do you call me a sellout and you're white? So it's just comical right now.

GLENN: So what has changed in -- with your community? Are they starting to -- are people in the black community starting to say -- like you did under Obama. You know, I think both political parties are full of crap.

LAWRENCE: Yeah. I think people are starting to feel it, the paychecks that they're receiving, the loss of health care, jobs leaving America. I think when you have a party that makes everything about emotions and then you look at your bank statement -- when you're feeling being in poverty, I think it starts to wake you up real quick. And so for a while, they were able to survive on President Obama because he was the first black president and you loved the culture. You loved seeing somebody who looks like you. But now those days are over.

So what do you have now? Can you make things about women or race again, saying Donald Trump hates you, when Donald Trump is advocating for a lot of black folks with his new deal for black America. He's talking about immigration, which a lot of black folks are upset that they prioritize illegal immigrants and give them jobs and it's hurting the black community. You know.

GLENN: You know, it's really funny because you only hear on the immigration front, you only hear that this is about racism. That whites are racists taking the jobs. But they completely ignore the black community.

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Which is the first to get hit by this, for the lower paying jobs.

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

GLENN: And you don't hear -- you don't hear anything.

LAWRENCE: Well, this is what you hear. It's called the New Underground Railroad. That's what the left calls this. They call the border control the slave catchers. And so if there's anything that's -- I don't think there's anything more offensive to suggest that the experience of illegal immigrants that came here willingly is like slaves that were brought on the slave ship that couldn't go back to their country.

GLENN: Do you hear that though, from people that are not like you?

LAWRENCE: Oh, yes. And I think that's when the shift started to come. Because I put all the left on notice. Maxine Waters. I mean, how can you say the Congressional Black Caucus -- how can you say you advocate for the black community and use this type of language? It's contradicting.

GLENN: But I have found so much contradiction over the last 40 years. I mean, you look at -- you look at the black community, and they do not vote their values.

LAWRENCE: Uh-uh.

GLENN: In the 19, what, 50s.

LAWRENCE: Yeah, traditional.

GLENN: They were the strongest family unit in the country.

LAWRENCE: Yeah.

GLENN: Now we're told because, you know, slavery broke up families, everything else -- no, that's not what did it.

LAWRENCE: Uh-uh.

GLENN: They had -- you guys came together --

LAWRENCE: Uh-uh.

GLENN: -- and you made your family stronger. The strongest family unit in the country was the black family unit.

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And so, what's happened? The left has dismantled and destroyed the community. And I -- I mean, I've heard the stuff -- you know, your traditional values, but you voted against those values for 40 years.

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh. I think the right does a terrible job in connecting with the community. I think we have to take some ownership as well, going to the communities, showing up. I think because the black community has voted 90 percent of the time for the left --

GLENN: Just given up.

LAWRENCE: -- we don't show up. And it's like, okay. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it. I refuse to give up. I feel like it's my mission. I feel like it's my calling. And if you win two or three, four people a day, I consider that a win. There was a time where I would go on social media, and I felt like my community hated me because they didn't feel like I was fighting for them. That's starting to change.

GLENN: You were an investigator for Dallas Police?

LAWRENCE: Uh-huh. Yes. Yeah. For private investigations, yeah.

GLENN: You've started to do these investigative pieces now on TheBlaze. You did one that's caused a lot of controversy recently on medical marijuana.

LAWRENCE: Yeah, yeah.

GLENN: And it is the smartest I think piece I've ever seen on medical marijuana. It's not about -- everybody else takes the pot smokers and the and they take the angle of, you know, those people who want to get high.

LAWRENCE: Yeah.

GLENN: You actually made it about medicine.

LAWRENCE: Yeah.

GLENN: And you have -- I mean, I will tell you, I might even talk to the governor about it today.

LAWRENCE: Yeah.

GLENN: My daughter has seizures. And they can't make them stop.

LAWRENCE: Yeah.

GLENN: And the head of one of the big -- I don't want to stick him out, but head of one of the big hospitals in Texas, one of the biggest -- and he is the head guy said -- I mean, the first thing, if you can get your hands on it, that I would try would be marijuana oil.

LAWRENCE: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Which doesn't make you high. You can't buy it here in Texas.

LAWRENCE: I think a lot of people are dealing with the law system. And I was a private investigator and worked a lot with Dallas Police. I went to the reserve academy. And I respect the law. But this is medicine for some. And when you get to see my video, you see a guy with cerebral palsy do kick boxing with --

GLENN: But what's the difference between that and a sanctuary city? Obey a law, enforce the law.

LAWRENCE: Right.

GLENN: Well, this is medicine. Well, this is these poor people who are escaping oppression.

LAWRENCE: That's why I'm advocating for the state to change the law.

GLENN: Right.

LAWRENCE: And you're seeing a lot of states do. You're seeing some cities -- Dallas just passed an ordinance where if you have below 5 ounces, they'll just give you a ticket.

GLENN: Yeah, but it's not even that. It's not change the law for pot. It's for medical use.

LAWRENCE: Right.

GLENN: Is the real difference.

LAWRENCE: Right. But my argument is, where is the line?

GLENN: I know. I know.

LAWRENCE: You have a lot of veterans with depression.

GLENN: I know.

LAWRENCE: And we're seeing veteran suicide rate drop when they use it.

STU: It's interesting. Because, I mean, medical marijuana is not a controversial topic.

LAWRENCE: No. No.

GLENN: It's not.

STU: The most recent poll, should you be able to use marijuana for medical purposes? 94 to five.

JEFFY: Of course.

STU: I mean, it's not -- it's not -- I think the issue here is -- and you saw this certainly in California, which is the slippery slope argument has never been more accurate. They tried to pitch -- you need medical marijuana. We're going to have these dispensaries, where they -- and now, it's just blatantly obviously legal. You walk in there. You get your card, and you get your pot for recreational purposes.

Now, I don't personally care honestly about recreational use.

LAWRENCE: Right. Right. Right.

GLENN: I don't either.

STU: But, still, I can understand the argument. Because -- you know, people say, "Well, you can have it for medical purposes," well, it never stays that way.

LAWRENCE: Right. Right.

GLENN: Right.

STU: They just -- it's just a first step. So it's an interesting debate from that perspective. But I don't see how -- I don't see how you don't have it legal from that --

LAWRENCE: It's going to happen.

STU: It's going to happen. It's going to be legal for recreational purposes. It already is in how many states?

GLENN: It has to. It has to.

I was talking to a guy who was dying of cancer yesterday. And he said, have you heard about the mother's breast milk thing, going on -- I think it's in Sweden or Denmark. And I said no. And he said, a woman has had this theory for a long time that breast milk could cure cancer.

LAWRENCE: Really?

GLENN: And tried to go in and get people to do research. But because it didn't involve Big Pharma or big money anywhere, nobody was interested. And finally, she got enough people to back a study. And it's -- it's not conclusive, but it shows at least real strong leading indications that breast milk actually goes right to cancer and destroys a lot of the cancer.

LAWRENCE: Wow.

GLENN: And, you know, there's a few of these things --

JEFFY: The studies are still in progress on that.

GLENN: They're still in progress, yeah, yeah.

JEFFY: They don't know how much.

GLENN: But we are close to things like this. And we've got to get the business side out of the way. And we have to get the FDA side out of the way and start -- especially when it comes to death. Start moving these things along a little faster perhaps. Lawrence, thank you so much. Lawrence Jones from the Blaze. You can read all about it at TheBlaze.com.

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Joe Rogan & Glenn AGREE: We just got CLOSER to civil war

Joe Rogan recently warned that we may have gotten to Step 7 of 9 in the lead-up to civil war. Glenn reviews the 9 Steps and explains why he believes Rogan nailed this one. But Glenn also lays out what Americans MUST do to reverse this trend...

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So if you take what Fetterman said yesterday about how people are cheering for him to die on the left, and then you couple it with something that was on the Joe Rogan show on Tuesday. He was saying that the reaction to the death of Charlie Kirk makes him think that the US is closer to Civil War than -- than he thought.

Now, let me quote him. He said, after the Charlie Kirk thing. I'm like, oh, my.

We might be at seven. This might be he step seven on the way to a bona fide Civil War. Charlie Kirk gets shot, and people are celebrating.

Like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

You want people to die that you disagree with?

Where are we now on the scale of Civil War?

Well, let me go over the scale of Civil War, because it's sobering.

Now, none of this has to be true. If we wake up and decide, I don't want to do this anymore!

Okay?

Here's step one.

Step one. Loss of civic trust.

Every civil conflict begins when people stop believing that the system is fair. Are we there?

We're so far -- we're so far past the doorway, we are comfortably asleep on the couch on this one. Gallup and Pew both show trust in Congress, the media courts, and the FBI government are now at record lows.

The Edelman Trust Barometer classifies the US now as severely polarized. Majority of Republicans distrust federal elections. Majority of Democrats don't trust the Supreme Court.

Americans are really united on one thing, and that is the other side is corrupt!

When faith in the rules collapses, the republic begins to wobble. But that's step one. Step two, polarization hardens into identity!

Political disagreement is normal!

Identity conflict is fatal!

But that's what Marxists push. Identity politics. This is when politics stopped being about policy, and started being about who you are as a person.

Have we crossed this one into step two?

I mean, we're neck deep into this. A study on this, from PRRI.

It's a survey, found 23 percent of Americans believe political violence may be necessary to save the that I guess.

I think that's an old study. Americans now sort themselves by ZIP code into ideological enclaves. The big sort: Universities, activists, corporations. Everybody is promoting oppressor versus oppressed.

And that -- does what?

It puts us into incompatible tribes. Opponents aren't wrong anymore. The opponent is dangerous!

If I go back and you look at civil wars, Lebanon, before 1975. Yugoslavia, before 1991. That's -- we're doing that. Okay?

Step three. Breakdown of the gatekeepers. The gatekeepers are kind of like the referees of society. It's the media, political parties, churches, civic leaders.

When they fail, extremism fills the vacuum. Okay. Where are we on this? Have our gatekeepers failed us?

Yeah. I think both parties, especially the left, you know, everything I predicted that the left was going to be eaten by the extreme left, and then the communists and the socialists is now happening.

They've lost control of the fringe of each party. Media transformed, you know, from referees into team coaches. Tech platforms. It's outrage for profit. Universities are not there to cool things down. They heat them up.

Churches. Churches are useless. Useless.

When the referees leave the field, the game devolves into a brawl. And the refs are gone off the field. So there are only nine steps. We're at step four. Here's step four.

Are you ready for this one?

Parallel information realities.

Civil wars don't require different opinions. They require different realities.

I remember reading about Germany, at the beginning of, you know, the Nazi era. How the two new newspapers. One was propaganda for the government.

And the other one, it was the last one that was kind of the holdout.

And they said, you could read them, and they would cover the same thing.

But they had almost no information was the same. Except, that happened yesterday.

Here's what they said. And then everything else was different. That's exactly -- I mean, step four is complete!

We can't agree on facts, right?

Crime rates. Border numbers. Inflation. Election security.

Two Americans can watch the same video. And see opposite truths.

Social media algorithms are creating customized political universes.

Digital echo chambers. Deepfakes. We're just at the beginning of that. And both sides accuse the other of running disinformation machines.

Why? Because we don't have a shared reality. So if you don't have a shared reality. How do you settle any dispute?

On the nine steps, we're up to number five. Coming in at number five.

Loss of neutral rule of law.

This out of the nine steps with, five is the pivot point.

It's not corruption, it's the belief that the law is no longer neutral.

Are we there yet?

Let me tell you the CBS you.gov poll. 67 percent say the justice system is used for political purposes.

I think that's low. January 6 defendants given years in prison, 2020 rioters were released. High profile political figures, prosecuted or shielded based on party.

FBI whistle-blowers alleging pressure to inflate domestic extremism numbers. States like Texas, directly defying federal directives, on border enforcement.

And now, leading the way, with the federal government.

History is really cold and unforgiving on this point.

Once the people believe justice is political! Remember, this is the turning point.

The republic stands on borrowed time. Once you no longer believe that justice is achievable. Step six.

Are we there?

I think we are.

Step six. Normalization of political violence!

This is where violence stops shocking the system. Are we there?

Remember, where violence stops shocking the system. Look at evidence just from Virginia. What they just voted for.

He was calling for the death of a -- a political opposition.

Calling for his children to be killed.

Was called on it, never apologized.

Never said anything other than, yeah. I know. He dug it deeper.

Was anyone shocked by it? Apparently not. They elected him. Here's the evidence. 2020 riots.
574 events. $2 billion in damage. Was anybody outraged by that? Or was it downplayed and excused?
Assassination attempts. Assassination attempts against the president. Supreme Court justice.

Fistfights. And mob actions on college campuses. To silence speakers. Rising to do for punching a fascist or stopping genocide. Depending on the ideology. Online chatter discussing Civil War, national divorce, and revolution.

When violence becomes part of the political language, a nation crosses an invisible line. We're now up to step seven out of nine.

This is where Joe Rogan said, are we at step seven?

The rise of militias and parallel forces.

When a state loses he is monopoly on force.

Countdown accelerates. So where are we on this one?

I think we're seeing, maybe early signs of this.

You're starting to see the -- the states kind of organize these mobs, you know, to go after ICE.

Right?

Armed groups, right-wing, left-wing radical secessionists. Anyone.

Once they start forming their own police forces. Or their own option forces, then you have -- then you have everything really falling apart.

Entirely!

I don't think we're there, yet!

But we're starting to see the beginnings of this.

Step eight. The trigger event.

Civil Wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark.

So where are we?

We're not here yet. The conditions are right. Potential triggers, disputed election in '26 or '28.

Political assassination or major attack.

Supreme Court decision that ignites mass unrest.

Financial crisis or dollar crisis.

A state federal standoff turning violent!

Nothing is ignited yet, but the room is soaked in gasoline. So we don't have seven. We're on the verge of eight, at any time. And here's nine.

This is the point of no return.

When police, military, or federal agencies split, even if no one calls it that, well, where are we?

Well, I just read a story about how with the Mamdani election in New York, a good number of the police force is going to leave. And they're going to go join police forces elsewhere. You also have the tension between the state National Guard, and the federal directives, the state guard and the state directives. Law enforcement recruitment is at crisis lows. The distrust of the FBI, DOJ, CIA. Tens of millions of Americans. I always really respected those institutions. I have no respect for them now. If you have states openly defying federal rules on immigration, drug laws, sanctuary policies.
Whistle-blower claims of internal politicization.

All of these things are in play for the first time in 150 years, people can imagine!

So I give this to you, not to be fearful of, but to know where you are. As a map!

Know where you are.

And hopefully, it might wake some people up, if you chart America on, on the nine step model of Civil War. Steps one through four, completed!

Step five, happening!

Step six, happening! Step seven, beginning! Step eight, just waiting for it. And step nine, avoidable, only if step eight, never happens. Again, I'm not telling you for doom purposes, this is diagnosis. This is a doctor going, I want you to look at the chart.

And this is a doctor saying, I want you to look at -- do you see what's happening to your body?

If you don't stop this habit, you are going to die. You don't have to die. You can stop smoking and drinking right now. You can start exercising. But if you don't, you are going to die.

The question is, are we the nation that says, nah, that's not going to happen to me. Or are we the nation that wakes up and sees our chart and says, good heavens, it's way far more gone than I thought it was. But I feel something in the air.

I'm going to change my behavior. The nation that refuses to look and wake up and stop calling their neighbors enemies, is the nation that fails!

We have to strengthen these things that have already fallen. And, you know what, the easiest one to do is?

Church. Where are you ministers and pastors priests and rabbis?

Where the hell are you?

I think there's going to be a special section for you, when you cross over to the -- because you're doing things in the name of God!

So when you get to the other side, I think there's going to be a special section for those who remained silent. While his rights were being taken away.

You don't own that right.

I don't own that right.

The Lord gave us those rights, and said, protect them!

By you, being the representative, the voice box, if you will, of the Lord, to shepherd his people. By you not standing up and saying, hey, by the way, we have -- we have a moral responsibility to protect these rights for the next generation! By you refusing because you're afraid. Because I think, there's no politics in the Bible! There's no politics in the Bible. Really?

The whole thing is about politics. Is about the moral way you have to live your life.

Calling things as you see them. Calling them back to eternal principles.

He didn't tell anybody how to vote. Render to Caesar what is Caesar's.

But there are certain principles that you have to have, or you lose not only this citizenship, but the next citizenship. The one that really matters. And, boy, if you are doing it because you're a coward, you are in the wrong business!

Get out of the pulpit, and go to work at Jack in the Box.

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Democrat “SMOKING GUN” on Trump & Epstein gets DESTROYED by facts

The House Oversight Democrats recently released "new" emails allegedly proving President Trump lied about his knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. However, Glenn points out a glaring issue with these emails that destroys their entire narrative...

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, let's dive right into the Epstein Maxwell emails. My gosh, Stu!

Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children!

STU: I mean, it's just clear, as -- as day, in the emails!

GLENN: Yeah. No.

STU: He spent hours with one of the victims. What else could have possibly have occurred in that arrangement? We don't know!

GLENN: And it's -- it's one of the victims, Stu. One of the victims!

STU: One of the victims, that's all we know. One of the victims.

GLENN: Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim redacted. Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera.

Okay. New information, just released. Or is it?

Because in 2011, 2011, that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change: In 2011, this is what it read.

I want you to realize that the dog hasn't barked is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him.

Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square!

It's already out!

The memo is already out. The email is already out. It's been out for years. Why would you redact that name now?

Well, because it makes it all of a sudden, new and shiny. Shiny and new. If you don't know who said it, you see victim, and you're like, oh, you see victim. Who is the victim?

I don't know. But when you know it's Virginia, you know this has already gone to court. This is -- she already testified about this!

He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it. It's true. He didn't partake in any sex with us, and I'm quoting, this is from the testimony. But it's not true, that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Have you ever met him?

Yes, at Mar-a-Lago, my dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him, and they would talk. Have you ever been in Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another? No!

What's the basis of your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey? Jeffrey has told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.

He didn't partake in any of -- any of the sex with any of it. He flirted with me.

It's true, that he didn't partake in any sex with us. But it's not true that he flirted with me.

So I don't understand that. But she goes on. Donald Trump never flirted with me!

Okay. So what -- what's new about this?

This is the same girl, this is the same person that -- didn't she work at Mar-a-Lago?

Or she was going to get a job at Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Yeah. I believe she did at one point.

GLENN: Yeah. So we know they know each other. We know they know each other.

We know that at Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey Epstein would come, and he was poaching the employees. The girls there. To go work for him.

And Donald Trump went to him. And said, "Hey, man. Stop it. Stop poaching people from me. That's not cool. Don't do it." And then he said, "Oh, yeah. All right." And then he did it a second time. And he's like, "You know what, you're out. I don't want you here anymore. I asked you not to do it, and you did it." Now, that doesn't mean that he knew what was happening to the girls or what was happening or anything else.

And even if it did mean something was happening with the girls, he was saying, "Hey. Stop it! Don't take any of the girls or the women here.
Don't do it." I don't believe he knew anything about any of this. But God only knows! And really, God only knows!

This is not new news. Donald Trump, he might end up beating Bezos as the richest man on the planet! When all is said and done!

Because, again, the -- they're presenting this as new fact, a giant scandal. Stu, I don't know if you know this. This is -- this breaking news is a giant scandal.

STU: Yeah. I've heard democratic representatives saying that over the past 24 hours. Yeah. We need to investigate this.

This is shocking stuff. It's a massive scandal. Even ABC News, I heard, pushed back against this. And said, well, what scandal? What are you implying occurred here?

We know who the victim was. We know the victim. Like why. Why did you even redact that name?

And they're like we always redact name of victims.

Do you really? When they're already out publicly?

Not to mention, this particular victim is not even alive.

You know, she sadly died. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible story.

GLENN: Terrible story.

STU: Yeah. She passed away.

A suicide. It was at least the report I believe. But she has a posthumous book coming out. But like a terrible, terrible story.

But, you know, to act as if you have to protect her identity when, number one, she's dead.

GLENN: Is ridiculous.

STU: Number two, everybody already knows who she was, including the news sources, who also have a policy, you would think.

And ABC has a policy. They redact, that was in this type of situation. But it's already been out. We already knew who it was.

So they redacted to make it look like he's with other people who have not already told us nothing bad occurred! You know, and it is an absolutely awful tactic. And at least --

GLENN: I think litigation should follow again. I think he should sue them again. Anyone who is presenting this as new information.

ABC did their job. Congratulations for ABC. They did their job.

They pointed out, this is not new information.

Why would you redact. Why are you releasing this now? And you're redacting a name this -- this email is already out!

You're presenting this as a new scandal.

And you redacted that name. This is completely dishonest. The news media shouldn't even run with it. They shouldn't even run with it. They should have said, old news. Old news. And if you did run with it, you should have handle it had like ABC handle it had. Wait a minute. Why did you redact name.

What do you mean that there's a new scandal. She already testified exactly opposite of what you're believing Jeffrey Epstein over the victim right now. I just want to make sure you understand the Democrats right here. You're taking the name of Epstein, over the victim.

Oh, okay. All right.

STU: And Epstein doesn't even say that anything occurred.

GLENN: No.

STU: There's not -- it's just -- it would be something you would have to jump to a conclusion, to accuse Donald Trump of something like this.

And we know what happened, because the victim said nothing!

Said, it was nothing!

GLENN: Right.

STU: In fact, it wasn't even a flirtation. Which, by the way, even that, you might have thought was creepy. It wasn't even a crime.

It wasn't even flirtation. So it's a disgrace in every single way.

GLENN: All right. So let me take you here. Let me take you here.

If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say, the reason why they did the shutdown?

Not them! Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate!

Why wouldn't -- why wouldn't the Republicans negotiate?

Because the heat was on, to release the Epstein files.

And they didn't want to have to do that. So they shut the government down!

Okay?

They wouldn't negotiate. You didn't hear any of this? Oh, it's so arrogant.

STU: It doesn't make any sense at all. That's probably what they said.

GLENN: I know. I know. So the government is open, and what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?

He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to the late financier, convicted child sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein next week. He said on Wednesday that a discharge position to bypass leadership and force a vote on the bill, hit the benchmark for needed signatures. It's been decided by him to expedite the vote for the bill, which under the current rules could have been delayed until at least early September.

So he says, as soon as that petition hit, the needed 218 signatures, I brought it up. Unanimous consent. Let's go! Release it.

So he's pushing this forward. Good, Mike!
Release all of it. Thank you!

Get it out. Lance this boil.

I mean, if anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It's madness. Everybody -- I mean, so many important people were involved in this, and it was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. Okay?

So they had all of this information. You don't think it was all picked through? And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?

There's nothing in there about Donald Trump. These people are so stupid. This time, we've got him, boys. This time, we've got him.

No, you don't. This time, it's like Wile E. Coyote. This time, we've got the Roadrunner!

No. You're never going to catch him on this. It doesn't work. The guy was the most investigated person in the history of the world, and you've got nothing! Now, it's good to come out.

But if you think you're going to catch a bunch of people on the left, you're not going to. Because they had it, you know, in their possession.

You don't think all of the names were taken out? You don't think things were destroyed, if there was anything? I believe there was something. But I don't believe there's any names in it anymore. You're not going to get the truth on this one. You're just not going to get the truth, but release everything that we have. Everything!

Oh. Oh, by the way, also in the Epstein emails. How come nobody is talking about this one, Stu?

This one is from Michael Wolff, to Jeffrey Epstein. And then Jeffrey Epstein responds.

So Michael Wolff writes, "What's the thumbnail on Nes Baum (phonetic) Foster?"

And Jeffrey Epstein writes back, "Nes Baum White House Counsel, dot, dot, dot, Hillary doing naughties with Vince."

Now, Vince Foster killed himself, you know, and then killed himself at the White House. And then drug himself across the street to the park.

I mean, I don't know -- the Vince Foster thing is so old. And it doesn't -- but why is nobody talking about that one?

Why is no one talking about that?

Also, this the Jeffrey Epstein email bundle, ABC, you don't feel that's necessary to bring that one up?

Huh. Interesting.

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