BLOGApril 21, 2017

Debbie D'Souza Issues Dire Warning About the Socialist Movement Crushing Venezuela

The mainstream media will tell you that what's happening in Venezuela is the direct result of nationalism and populism --- but that's a lie.

"This is the biggest rape and robbery of a country ever, and the press is making this into a nationalist movement. No. No. This is a socialist dictatorship. And you can try to repackage it any way you want, but this was a country that had hope until Hugo Chávez and his socialist regime started to take it apart," Glenn said Friday on radio.

Debbie D'Souza, wife of Dinesh D'Souza and native Venezuelan, joined Glenn to talk about what's really going on in her home country --- and how socialism has destroyed it.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

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Glenn: What is happening in Venezuela is remarkable. And it is a Socialist utopia the way they always end. There's a humanitarian crisis going on right now in Venezuela, some of which I can't talk to you about. There are things going on right now that people are being literally smuggled out at night because they're being targeted as groups.

As I look at this and see what's going on, and now the press is starting to say "Oh, you know what this is? This is a -- this is what happens when you go to nationalism and populism."

No, that's not what this is. This is Communism. This is socialism. This is what happens. And quite honestly, this is the road that we've been headed on for a very long time. Debbie D'Souza joins us now on the program. Hi, Debbie, how are you?

DEBBIE: Hi, Glenn, first of all, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for talking about Venezuela for all of these years. I've listened to you for years, and you have been right on target with the situation of Venezuela from the very beginning, and I want to thank you for that. Because not many people talk about it. They ignore it. You know, Venezuela is only a couple thousand miles away from us.

GLENN: I know.

DEBBIE: And they have not talked about it at all and as you say, they say it's something other than what it is. And it is downright socialism, and this is what it looks like, the ugly side of socialism. I don't know if there's a pretty side to it.

GLENN: This is when -- who was it? Facture that said the problem that socialism has eventually run out of other people's money. This is that point where eventually you run out of money.

DEBBIE: Absolutely. And Venezuela, you know, I was born in Venezuela in 1966. It was a thriving country. You know, it's an oil-rich country. So we had all of the amenities that you could think of. You know, the birth rate in Venezuela obviously when I was born was high. Now, you know, babies born in Venezuela, they -- the birth rate has gone down because the death rate has gone way up for babies born. Because he, you know -- Hugo Chavez as you said destroyed the health care system trying to make everybody pay for it. Well -- when people started leaving the country, when doctors started leaving the country, there was no one to pay for it.

GLENN: And then when he had a thriving oil company, or oil industry and when he took that over and nationalized oil, that went through the ground.

DEBBIE: He nationalized everything. Telecommunications, energy, you know, the left in Venezuela is also into the whole climate change thing and so they basically started doing wattage allotments for people. So if you went over your allotted wattage, you had to pay a $200 tax increase on top of your bill, so people stopped using blow dryers, they stopped using -- I mean, it was ridiculous. Of course now, you know -- it's just awful.

GLENN: Debbie, when you see -- this is a narco-Communist State.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: This is a Communist State now that has ties to terror, ties to Iran, ties to Hezbollah.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: The current president is going to Citibank, and it's going to be one of the biggest robberies of all time or at least this century where he is now going to sell all of the Venezuelan gold reserves.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And you hear people on TV say "This is populism," which is clearly wrong and clearly trying to make a point that is anti-Donald Trump.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: How does that make people in Venezuela feel?

DEBBIE: Well, those people who get it in Venezuela are huge Donald Trump fans. They asked me to tell you and the viewers, please, please, Donald Trump do something. Either, you know, embolden the opposition. You know, we're not asking for military intervention. I mean, it's actually that bad. But we want to embolden the opposition.

GLENN: Who is opposition that could fix this?

DEBBIE: Well, the opposition leader right now is Enrique. It's basically made up of different political parties that are all on the right side of the ideological chart. So basically when the equivalent of the Republican party self-destructed, this is what gave way to Chavez. This is the reason Hugo Chávez was able to come in and take over the country is the right of Venezuela just completely self-destructed.

So then they kind of started picking up the pieces and splintered off into a -- just a bunch of different political groups, and so they all got together and called themselves the opposition. So Enrique has basically run for president twice, and we believe that the last time, he actually won. But there was voter fraud and so basically, a -- it was either last week or a couple of weeks ago, they banned from running for any type of office.

I mean, can you imagine? So they're afraid of this man. And so him, and then there's a woman, she's a congresswoman who is also opposition party, and they have actually blamed the death of this young girl, I sent you a video of this girl who was killed by thugs who basically are helping run the country. These are basically a civilian army that Hugo Chávez established from based off of criminals who he pardoned. And so they're -- you know, they're murderers, they're rapists, they run a muck all over the city. Just, you know, killing people, raping women, doing whatever they want.

GLENN: This happens and this is why Haiti can't get up on its feet because they have the same kind of thing happening in Haiti.

DEBBIE: Yes, so this is huge. They're feared. And I don't know if you know this, but in 2010, there was a disarmament movement for citizens of Venezuela, so they started taking away guns of citizens. And now citizens do not have guns, but they do and the armed forces of Venezuela is also part of the regime, and they're the National Guard and of course, they have guns and then these thugs have guns but the citizens don't have anything. So I want to make it very clear that when you see, you know, fighting in the streets and these kids throwing Molotov cocktails and all of that, these aren't the same type of thugs that are, like, wreaking havoc here on the --

GLENN: Berkeley.

DEBBIE: No, Berkeley and all of that. No, this is the exact opposite. Actually, those thugs are the thugs that have the guns in Venezuela. The left. And so --

GLENN: Debbie -- we're talking to Debbie D'Souza, did a necessary D'Souza's wife who's family is in Venezuela. I remember I was coming back from South Africa, and I was supposed to go speak in Venezuela. I don't remember. It was, like, the national theater or something, and it was a group of pastors from all over Central and South America. And Hugo Chávez said, "You're not going to speak there." And put armed military around -- by the time I landed to refuel in north Africa, they said:"Don't come." The people who invited me. Because he's going to put military around the theater.

So I actually had to land in I think Jamaica, wasn't it, Pat? And we cut my message and had somebody smuggle it in on videotape to Venezuela.

Now, that was five or six years ago. I don't -- I mean, we're talking now -- I'm dealing with people now trying to help smuggle people out of Venezuela who are being targeted as groups. I mean, it's a dangerous place now.

DEBBIE: It is awful. My 82-year-old aunt and I'm only saying this, you know -- I'm just throwing this out there. But she's in Miami right now. But the rest of my family still in Venezuela, and I don't know what to do. I mean, this is so bad. You know, Ted Cruz's dad Rafael, I reached out to him in 2014 because this is when people started taking it to the streets back in -- three years ago. And he was trying to help. But of course, you know, it was the Obama administration who was in bed with these people. And so, you know, what people don't get is Hugo Chávez hated Bush. He hated Reagan. He hated any Republican. And so, you know, I just don't understand how people do not see that the left uses the same exact tactics in Venezuela. They blame the right for everything that's going wrong. They --

GLENN: This is 1950s, ''60s could you be on what's going on.

DEBBIE: Oh, absolutely. And basically Cuba owns Venezuela now.

GLENN: Yeah.

DEBBIE: Maduro is close friends with the Castro brothers. Obviously, one of them has passed away. But the other one Raúl, they're buddy, buddy, and they are -- so basically, he's helping him run Venezuela, so --

GLENN: Go ahead.

DEBBIE: Yeah, go ahead.

GLENN: Is this something that we could see a Reagan moment? That if Donald Trump was empowering, not using force, just making the speech of tear down this wall and empowering like the pope did, empowering the solidarity movement in Poland?

DEBBIE: Absolutely. The regular doctrine is what we want. Empowering the people that are being oppressed right now in Venezuela. The opposition party, helping them somehow, you know, reach the level of being able to get out of this. I just don't know -- short of a military coup, I just don't know how else to remove this man from office. And to, you know, help the Venezuelians. This crisis has reached a level of -- I've never seen it like this before. It's just horrific.

GLENN: They really are -- there's no food.

DEBBIE: No food, nothing. I mean, these people are for the most part, you know, they hoard food, and they grow their own food because they have to. They -- you know, my aunt was going from grocery store to grocery store just to find milk, just to find eggs. You know, she basically had to go vegan, and I mean, it's really, really horrific.

GLENN: Yeah, I will tell you that I've seen reports where people will line up starting at 1:00 in the afternoon and sometimes at midnight hoping that there would be a delivery for the store. And when that door opens, whether you need it or not, it's Germany stuff. Whether you need it or not, you buy whatever is on the shelf.

DEBBIE: Absolutely. And, Glenn, this is also -- you know, people are -- well, Debbie, why should we care about Venezuela? Well, I tell you why you should care. Number one, if it's destroyed, it's going to just become a hotbed for all of these terrorists that are in bed with the regime. They already have, you know -- and this is from reports from people that are in Venezuela that tell me that they see things in Farsi, you know, they -- there's airplanes coming from Iran that are landing from Tehran that are landing at the airport daily. What are they doing? Basically, they're up to no good. And so if we create this situation where there's going to be a huge vacuum in Venezuela.

GLENN: It's a base. Debbie, I've got to run. But thank you so much for this update. We're going to continue to follow it and please let us know how we can help you.

DEBBIE: Thank you.

GLENN: You bet.

DEBBIE: Just, you know, have Trump help. I mean, I don't know. We're just -- we're desperate. We are desperate. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. Debbie D'Souza following on the crisis in Venezuela.

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Israel and Hamas sign Trump's historic deal. Will it work?

Israel and Hamas have signed phase 1 of President Trump’s peace deal, paving the path for the release of all remaining hostages, hopefully in a few days. Glenn and Stu explain the significance of this historic deal and what it could mean moving forward.

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GLENN: Oh. Your initial thoughts here on the peace deal?

STU: It's an incredible opportunity. I think it is important to remind ourselves, that this -- these things typically do fall apart. That is essentially your expectation, any time anything like this happens. Part of this is going to be Hamas coming through on promises.

I have very little belief that they are typically able to do such things.

That being said. They probably also -- you know, one of the things -- a friend of mine pointed this out to me. We were going through all of this.

And he said, you know, one thing to think about it: This is, like, not the B team of Hamas. But the R team of Hamas. They've killed so many of the leadership.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

STU: These are people making decisions that were not at the top of this organization and had those ridiculous ideological beliefs that would lead you to October 7th. That's not to mean that Hamas, these people that are left are like, "Hey, you want to invite them over for Thanksgiving."

But I do think there's a possibility here that they're like, you know, maybe this life is not here for us.

GLENN: That would be nice if that were true. I don't know if that were true. But it would be really thyself.

STU: I don't know if that's true. I do think there may be a little bit lower ideological commitment, potentially. And also, the idea that some of these people might be able to make this deal and escape to another third country.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And live life there, in a different way.

GLENN: So the breaking news that just was announced, Israel, their parliament or their cabinet just met or approved phase one of the deal.

And Hamas has just come out and said, they accept phase one of the deal.

That means the hostages will be released either this weekend or Monday.

Any remaining hostage will be released.

STU: I mean, just that.

GLENN: Just that.

STU: If that occurs, it is a massive achievement.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: So far, it is already the greatest opportunity we've had.

And only possible because of his detection to this idea!

GLENN: And his deal-making.

Not just his vision.

But his ability to work all of the parties and find out what all the parties need.

And make it happen.

You know, we're not talking about peace between Gaza, you know, Hamas, and Israel.

We're talking about peace in the Middle East.

STU: Yeah. It's bigger. It's bigger than just Israel.

GLENN: I mean, it's Egypt and Saudi Arabia and -- and Jordan to some extent. And -- and Turkey. All of them getting together and saying, you know what! We'll rebuild Gaza. We want to make it into a very prosperous kind of area. I mean, think of places in Saudi Arabia that are so prosperous. That's the way Gaza could be. So they're all getting together and they're saying, "We will rebuild. We'll oversee. We will try to make everything -- you know, keep everything held."

They will put their money into it, which means they have a lot to lose if it goes awry. And they're all saying, "We can co-exist with Israel."

Three years ago, did you even think that was possible?

STU: Yeah. And, you know, look, there are a lot of places you can go and find non-stop criticism of Donald Trump. They will say terrible things he does, and everything he does is the worst thing ever.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Also, there are plenty of places you can go where you find that everything that he does is the greatest thing of all time.

I hope you realize that's not what we do here. And I -- on a -- I said this -- and you said this as well when we -- when this was unveiled.

Sometimes, you can get -- people are critical of the way Trump handles these situations.
Sometimes. And sometimes there's arguments on that.
Sometimes it's not the best approach.

You know, we were critical of him, for example, how he handled Canada. You know, probably cost Poilievre that election. And I think that's a really bad thing.

GLENN: I do on top.

STU: That being said, this is a great example of where his instincts work perfectly. This is all set up over a long period of foundational stuff from his first term. With the decision he made, to come out and just announce the agreement with Netanyahu. We agreed. We agreed to this peace deal.

Now, in theory, we have no position to agree between these two parties. But he came out and all of the focus had been, look at all the bad things Israel is doing. Look at how bad, they're so evil. They're so bad.

And he said, we agree with Israel. Now we just need Hamas.

And so the world's attention was like, what's Hamas going to say?

Finally, he was able to focus his attention to the appropriate place. To the party that is holding the hostages, to say, hey. How about asking if they want to a freaking cease-fire for once?

He was able to do that. In a way that I think only Donald Trump could achieve. Which leads to this, over a long foundation.

GLENN: And here's another thing.

You know, this guy has walked through wall after wall after wall of fire. Everybody calling him everything. Nazi, every day.

Here's a guy who, you know, in a time period where the whole world is like, the Jews control everything. Donald Trump is run by the Jews.

He not only kept his relationship with Israel solid and helped them, when he thought they were right. But when they were wrong, in his view, he chastised them.

He knew how to do it. And still hold their respect.

And gained the respect of places like Qatar. And say, so Qatar. When he chastised Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu had to I think apologize to some degree about what they did in Qatar.

That's when the Middle East went, wait a minute.

He's not being controlled by the Jews! You know what I mean?

That should be a really big wake-up call to everybody who thinks that Donald Trump is just being controlled by the Jews.

No. No. No. He's not.

He does what he thinks is right. And he'll chastise both sides.

And he will support either side. When they're right, to get to a deal. That's good for everybody.

This deal could be amazing.

I don't have any -- and it's not because of this deal.

I happen to -- I read the end of the book. So I know how this ends.

This will not -- you know, this is not --

STU: You skipped ahead?

GLENN: I skipped ahead. I skipped ahead.

STU: Don't ruin anything.

Don't -- no spoiler alerts.

GLENN: I won't. No spoiler alerts.

Let's just say, this might last for a week. It might last for a thousand years. I don't know.

But we will be in this situation again. We all know that. We all know that. But let's take and celebrate peace while we can.

And the hostage is coming back. That is massive. Massive.

And due to Donald Trump.

Today, if you don't like Donald Trump, fine. Fine.

But how do you take this one apart?

Honestly, how do you not claim this is a massive victory, for the whole world?

STU: Well, I can tell you, that a lot of people on the left are rooting for it to collapse, which is a shockingly revealing moment. I mean --

GLENN: Wait. What?

STU: They are -- you know, they're not going to be out there like, we hope this collapse is.

But you know they hope it collapses.

They don't want to give Trump credit for it.

And they would rather have this continue. They would rather have this war go on.

Than admit that the reason it's ending is because Donald Trump was able to negotiate this deal.

That is central!

GLENN: I think anybody who has played politics with the Palestinian, you know, all that stuff. And all the stuff on the streets. That -- that has been a very effective tool for them. And so I would agree.

And they don't want that tool to be taken away.

STU: You think the Hamas wing of the party wants this? You think Rashida Tlaib is all thrilled about Donald Trump's efforts here. They will hear about Ilhan Omar -- how wonderful --

GLENN: Those are extremists.

STU: I mean that. This is a very revealing dividing line on the left. Right?

If there is anything that is ever going to happen, that Donald Trump can be given credit for. That you think this could be clear. John Fetterman. Fetterman has obviously pretty good on this issue. But Fetterman came out, gave a statement that should be basic. Basic. Like, hey, this is good. And I really hope it works. Donald Trump did a good job on this.

That's the type of stuff that should be obvious for everyone to be able to --

GLENN: That's what "Tip" O'Neill would have done. "Tip" O'Neill and Ronald Reagan, they got together. They disagreed. They fought hard, but they had dinner.

Yeah. Because "Tip" O'Neill could say, that was good. That was good. What he did was just good for all of us.

STU: That worked well. Good. I'm glad that happened. You should be glad that happened. We should all be rooting for the success here.

Even if what the -- you know, like, I rooted -- again, I have all sorts of criticisms the way Barack Obama dealt with the Middle East.

Yeah. Plenty of them. And we went over them over and over and over again.

And plenty of issues with specifically the way he went after Osama bin Laden. But on the day that it happened, really happy about.

Very happy that we were able to do it.

Now, look, it's our military that does it. They can say all this stuff too. They can say, oh, well, the real reason is. Blah, blah, blah.

But we can still be happy, that this occurred. And you can still be excited and give credit where credit is due.

GLENN: This is a win for all humankind. For humanity!

For life!

Stopping Hamas from torturing. You know, torturing kidnap victims.

Stopping the bloodshed that was happening because of the war on both sides.

That is a win. Having the possibility of a stable Middle East, at least for a while. That's a win!

That's a win all the way around. Everyone should be happy. I don't care if you like the president or not.

Everyone should be happy that mankind, put one on the chalkboard for all of mankind today.

This is a huge -- never seen -- this is on the good side. Never seen this one before. Didn't see this one coming.

I mean, we should all be able to say, wow!

And thank you. Because he's the -- I really, truly believe, when it comes to negotiating things like this, there is nobody better.

I mean, that's what he does for a living.

And he knows it. He knows how to read people. He knows how to it.

And this is evidence of it.

STU: And he will do things that are so out of the norm. That it resets everybody's thinking. You know, I mentioned --

GLENN: If he wouldn't have done that. If he wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have all the Middle East signing on to a peace deal.

STU: I respect. What would they have done in a situation like Trump was with Netanyahu?

Their advisers would have said, "Look, this is great. You guys are together on this. Let's go to Hamas. We'll talk to them. We will see if we can get something done. We don't want to ruin it by announcing it publicly. There are times, where that tactic cannot work. But it worked really well here."

He forced them to basically say, "No, we don't want a cease-fire," or, "Okay. We'll go along with this."

And, by the way, you go down this list, there's a lot of stuff -- this is Hamas never, ever having control of this region ever again is built into this agreement. Now they've only talked about -- they're only on phase one here. So we don't know that we get all of this stuff. But like, there's a lot here that really improves the lives of Israelis, of --

GLENN: Palestinians.

STU: Arab Israelis in the region. You know, Palestinians. Other Arabs in the region.

GLENN: Saudi Arabia. Everybody.

STU: Yeah. Not to mention, just globally.

Right? This is a positive.

GLENN: Look what this does.

That's Turkey. So that separates Turkey from Syria, which is right in bed with -- with Iran.

I mean, think about how this box is. If you have the entire Middle East, now operating with Israel, and saying, we have a right to exist. Think about what that means, for this block, now to Iran. Iran doesn't mind being a pariah.

But now, everyone is officially saying, aisled do business with them.

STU: We will choose business over these guys.

That's a big statement in that world.

GLENN: That's a big deal. Big deal.

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Big investors buying gold: What does this mean for your dollar?

Gold has reached a record high price of over $4,000 an ounce. So, what does that mean for your dollar? Financial expert Carol Roth joins Glenn to explain why this news is so concerning and why many big investors have started to buy gold.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Well, Carol Roth, welcome to the program. How are you?

CAROL: I'm doing great, Glenn! I'm actually celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary today, so it's a blessed day.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Congratulations! Congratulations! It's weird. I'm coming up on my 26th on January.

CAROL: Oh, fabulous. Fabulous. It's a good amount of time to be married, yes.

GLENN: It is. It is. So, Carol. Let's talk about the price of gold hitting --

CAROL: It's over 4,000.

GLENN: Which is nuts. And I don't think people really understand. I don't think the average -- this is my guess, and I want you to correct me. I don't think the average person is buying gold. I think this gold-buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks, mainly. Also, Asian markets. I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means. Can you explain it?

CAROL: Absolutely. I think the world both, investors and central banks are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years. So, you know, we're ahead. We warned everyone. And now this is a little bit of catch-up. Interestingly, you know, as you noted, the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means.

When you look at Chinese households. When you look at Indian household. There are estimates that each one of those country's households owns up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point. Which to put that in context, the US government owns 8,133 times.

GLENN: So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons.

CAROL: Right.

GLENN: What we say we have, is he 8100. Wow!

CAROL: So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve. When you look at data for the US, it's a little bit hard to get good data. But from what I've seen, the estimates are only about ten to 11 percent of US households at all, have exposure to gold.

Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead of the curve. And I would imagine blows through that number. But just shows how sort of unprepared US households are in general.

GLENN: When you're looking at Indian and Chinese households that own gold. Does that include all the gold jewelry?

CAROL: Yes. Yes. That's actually, particularly in India. One of their preferred ways of procuring gold. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. So gold has -- gold has shot up over $4,000 in record times. I mean, breathtaking time. What is causing that?

CAROL: Okay. So there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors, which, of course, are linked. Are what Wall Street is now calling the debt debasement trade. Which they're just caught up. And gave it a cute name.

And changing the global financial order. And they're very much linked.

GLENN: Yeah. Tell me, what is it? The debt debasement? What is that?

CAROL: They're doing the debt debasement trade, which is just basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position.

GLENN: All right.

CAROL: And what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past 17 years, what that has done to our purchasing power, and how that's going to catch up to us.

So as a reminder, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels. We were at 120 police levels of GDP.

We're running deficits equivalent to a war-time level. Or recession level, while we still have growth.

Which is crazy. We have interesting interest rate -- or interest payments that are outpacing defense spending.

So everyone is now finally catching on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position.

And it is going to be very difficult to get out of. Without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency. Which is a fancy way of saying, a diminishment of your purchasing power.

What's really crazy. There's a chart that's been going around, and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes. Price in US dollars, price in gold.

So if I look from the end of September 2018, out seven years, and you look at the top 100 NASDAQ nonfinancial companies. It's called the NDX. In US dollar terms, that is up 236 percent. So you think you're super rich, right?

But in gold terms, solid money that doesn't -- you know, that doesn't have its value debased. It's only up 4.7 percent.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

CAROL: Yeah. Of course. The S&P 500 up 133 percent over that period in dollar terms. It's down 27.6 percent in gold terms.

And what's called the Case-Shiller Home Price Index, which is the value of homes, the way that's measured. Dollar terms, 60 percent. Oh, houses. So expensive In gold terms, it's down 50 percent.

In fact, right now, it takes less gold in terms of ounces, to buy the median single-family house, than it has in decades and decades and decades.

So it goes to show, that even though we see these dollars. They're buying less and less. And now, you and I were talking about this forever.

But now Wall Street is catching on. Oh, that's not a great thing. And so in terms of preserving the hard-earned capital, we need something that is that -- that hedge. That mutual hedge that is going to retain its value.

And that's why more investors, institutional investors. Funny enough, a lot of millennials, more than anyone starting to really get in to gold.

GLENN: You know why? Because millennials have not been trained their whole life. Trust the system!

CAROL: Yes.

GLENN: And they see it clearly. And they look at it, and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all. And they're going to spend this.

And they will wreck the dollar and everything else. They just see it without being trained over and over and over again. Like, trust the system. They don't trust the system.

And once you realize, the system is rigged in a million different ways. And the system is not telling you the truth.

I mean, that is amazing. When you look at the stock market. And you say, it's actually down, when you compare it in US dollars. To gold!

What's happening -- let me explain this to the audience. What all that means is: Gold is only going up in dollars. It's staying -- it's staying stable. But it's costing you more because of inflation. The dollars are buying less! So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not. It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not! It's what it costs to get in with dollars. If you're going in with gold. You'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down. The price of housing is town.

It's the dollar. It takes more dollars to buy, than it does with gold, which holds its value.

That is -- if people could understand that one thing, that changes all the conversations of, the government has to do something to make housing more affordable. No, they don't. They have to stabilize the dollar. They have to stop spending so much money.

CAROL: Yeah, I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange. You know, how you helped to exchange goods.

It's a unit of account, which we say, things are priced in dollars, and it's supposed to be a store value. The unit of account, that you just talked about. My friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy, and he talks about other measurements.

You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day, at 12 o'clock, you know, means midnight. And another day, 3 o'clock means midnight. Or 6 inches to measure a curtain one day. And then the same measurement is like a foot, a different day.

You can't have -- a consistent measurement if the unit of account continues to change. And that's what we've been seeing here with the dollar. And unfortunately, it has not been to our favor.

Which means, that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar, that over time, that -- that work that you put out, your productivity is worth less and less.

And so what gold is meant to do. It's meant to be Capitol preservation. It's not a risk asset. It's not meant to take on risk. And maybe go up a ton. And maybe go down a ton. It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned. So that you can preserve your purchasing power.

GLENN: You know, I've been saying this for a long time. That you put your money. And I have money in the stock market. You put the money in the stock market.

If things really go awry, go ahead. You're going to cash out for an awful lot of money. But those dollars. It will be paid back to you in dollars.

Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up, than that ounce of gold, or, you know, that 10 ounces of gold, or whatever you had!

The stock market is paid in dollars. And so as the inflation goes up.

But gold keeps its value!

Keeps its value and hold it steady.

So, yeah. You will be paying more in dollars if you try to sell your gold. But that will continue to increase while stock markets will go down. Am I right?

CAROL: It's a counterbalance. So if things were to shift, and for some reason, you know, things were to change with the dollars, which we would need a lot of different catalysts. Then your gold goes down. It's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio. And to have the gold hedge.

What's interesting, Glenn. Just the history, we're talking about millennials.

You know, they went through the great recession. Financial crisis.

They're kind of keyed into this. But if you think about when we came out of the '70s with this crazy inflation. We came out of the gold standard. It used to be very commonplace for a financial adviser to sit down and say, okay.

We've been through this. And so you should be putting, you know, five to 10 percent of your portfolio in gold. As the stock market took off in dollars. And became this big thing.

And they started seeking fees. That went away. Financial advisers, who don't get paid sometimes at all, when you allocate to gold. Stop recommending it.

GLENN: Yep.

CAROL: And now we're seeing a shift back, now we're seeing, you know, oh, yes. You should have some. Some of the big names out there saying, even more.

GLENN: Ray Dalio just came out and said, 15 percent.

CAROL: Yes, we've seen big names like that, anywhere from ten to 20.

And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 in assets or more, they're averaging right now, 21 percent of their holdings in gold.

So it's a very big flip in recent years, on how this is being viewed bit people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about them.

GLENN: Okay. So let me just summarize here before we move on. On to some other questions.

That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the great depression said. What are the people with big large amounts of money doing?

I want to do that. And if I did do that. I would be better off in the great depression.

You just heard it, 20 percent or more, right?

From big dollars.

They're investing in gold. 20 percent!

You should -- you should have some!

CAROL: And it's interesting. Some of the portfolios we're seeing is coming from not only the equity peace, but from the fixed-income peace, which is pretty interesting too.

GLENN: Amazing.

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