GLENNApril 06, 2017

How Adam and Eve Became Victims of the Greatest Character Assassination Ever

Three thousand years before The Happiness Movement told us relationships matter, the Bible had already done it with Adam and Eve.

Bruce Feiler, author of the new book The First Love Story: Adam, Eve, and Us, joined Glenn in studio on Thursday, revealing how a visit to the Sistine Chapel with this daughters inspired him.

"They're complaining. My feet hurt. This boring. I'm like, get into the Sistine Chapel, girls. I'm going to blow your mind. They look up, and one of my girls looks at Adam and God --- the fingers, right? Across the sky --- and says, 'That's only men. Where am I in that picture?' And her identical sister looks up and sees . . . under God's arm is a woman," Feiler recalled.

The woman, of course, was Eve.

"That's when I realized . . . this story has been at the heart of every conversation about men, women and sexuality for 3,000 years. And as crazy as it sounds, maybe it has something to teach us," Feiler said.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Hello, America. Welcome. And welcome to Bruce Feiler. How are you, Bruce?

BRUCE: It's great to with you, Glenn. Just happy to be here. And nice to see you looking so great. This wonderful room. So thank you for having me.

GLENN: Thank you.

We were -- the first time we met, you were riddled with cancer. Didn't know if you were going to make it. And you wrote one of the most honest books. It just -- just grabbed me by the heart and the throat. I don't remember the name of it.

BRUCE: The Council of Dads.

GLENN: Council of Dads. And you were putting together a council in case you died. Here are the -- I pick this guy because of these values. I pick this guy because of these values.

BRUCE: Yeah.

GLENN: It was a fascinating study.

First of all, how are you doing?

BRUCE: I'm well. Cancer-free. And -- you know, they say cured. I'm not sure I like that language. But healthy. Walking around.

GLENN: Good. And then you wrote America's Prophet. Which was another book that just riveted me because it really told our American story and put it into real context. Important context. Now you're a big star and you're on PBS. And you write all kinds of, you know, number one best-sellers. And this one is about Adam and Eve.

And I'm fascinated, especially since you're here in week, because I thought a lot about Adam and Eve. And my relationship with my wife. Just last week, I was pondering Adam and Eve for some reason and how much that story has to teach us. And then, you know, I start reading your book, and, you know, you've taken a little pondering. And taken it the full hundred yards.

Let's start with the Sistine Chapel.

BRUCE: So this journey in some ways begins in the Sistine Chapel. My process really begins at my kitchen table. I have a working wife. I have children. As you know, my kids are almost exactly the age of your children.

And we talk a lot about the changing ways that men and women are relating to each other. Right? This moment of sort of tectonic change. And most -- and I write a lot about this in my last two books, New York Times columns. And mostly it's about technology or the latest app. We're going to do it differently. I care a lot about the ancient world and the Bible. Spent a lot of time in the Middle East. And I can't help, but wondering, is there nothing from the past that's not worth preserving?

GLENN: Uh-huh.

BRUCE: We go to the Sistine Chapel, day one. It's a business trip for my wife. And I'm like, okay. I'm going to take my sleep-deprived daughters to the Vatican. It doesn't go well. They're complaining. My feet hurt. This boring.

I'm like, get into the Sistine Chapel, girls. I'm going to blow your mind. They look up, and one of my girls looks at Adam and God, the fingers, right? Across the sky. And says, "That's only men. Where am I in that picture?" And her identical sister looks up and sees -- by the way, my mother is an art teacher. I never noticed this. Under God's arm is a woman.

She says, "Is that Eve?" And that's when I realized -- I had one of those moments that you know -- you've gone on these journeys writing these things out of nowhere. This story has been at the heart of every conversation about men, women, and sexuality for 3,000 years. And as crazy as it sounds, maybe it has something to teach us.

And you mention Walking the Bible earlier in the lead-up to this in the last hour. So I'm an experientialist. I like to go to places. I climb Mount Ararat and cross the Red Sea. But where am I going to go. Right? I mean, you can go to the Garden of Eden in Iraq.

But what happens is I start tugging on strings, Glenn. And this whole opportunity -- every generation we've looked at this story, right? So Michelangelo and John Milton and Ernest Hemingway and Mark Twain and Beyonce and Bob Dylan and Pope Francis -- so I get to go on like this incredible scavenger hunt, all over the world, trying to look at how people have explored this story and try to figure out what lessons it can hold --

GLENN: So let's -- I'm going to have you on for an hour tonight on television. And I invite you to watch. It will be a fascinating -- trust me, Bruce is a fascinating guy. And I want to talk about your journeys and the different things that you found as you went on these journeys and the way that everybody looks at it.

But help me out with, why does it matter? What can it teach us today? Because right now, I think we are living the Kipling poem. And if you don't know it, look it up. The gods of the copybook headings. We are living those times right now, where everything that is known to be true is just thrown out.

BRUCE: Right. Right.

GLENN: And we're just making it up and saying, "This is true." We have no idea if that's true.

So we throw things out like Adam and Eve.

BRUCE: Yeah. So I think -- look, there's -- I was interviewed in TIME magazine this week on the last page. Eight questions with Bruce Feiler, and one of the questions they asked me was coding class or Bible study? Okay? And what I said was, you know, for my daughters, they like math. And they believe like all kids, that every bit of knowledge is behind that screen. If they look long enough into that computer, they're going to know everything. I was like, you know what, it's rare, and it's kind of counterculture and it's almost outrageous today to say, you can learn something from the past.

So I said Bible study. You know, to me, in some ways, this book is about -- the first love story -- is about, let's remember that there's wisdom in the past.

You mentioned this in the lead-up to this conversation, Glenn. Positive psychology. The happiness movement. What has it said to us? Relationships matter, okay?

You and I have been connected. We don't see each other all the time. We are connected. We have that connection. Happiness is other people.

The big threat is loneliness. Young people, middle-aged people, the opioid crisis, suicide crisis -- what's the first thing God says about human beings in the Bible? Upon looking at Adam, it's not right for humans to be alone.

The Bible gets there 3,000 years before social science. And if you're one of those people who thinks, science, who needs the Bible? Here's a beautiful example where that's not true.

And, by the way, if you're the kind of person that says the Bible has everything, not science. Also, not true. You put the two in dialogue with each other.

So I actually think that the story itself is a beautiful story about resilience, forgiveness, togetherness. They make missteps. They have problems. You can call it sin, if you want to. But they stay together, right? They start together. They leave Eden. They stay together. They have two children. One of them murders the other. They reconcile. They come back together. Right? We know. What's the key to a relationship?

You've been married a long time, as I have. Going on 15 years, in my case. Being able to mend a rupture, right? Heal a broken heart. Get over our mistakes. Admit mistakes. That's key.

Boy, do Adam and Eve do that, and, boy, their mistakes were a lot bigger than ours are. Okay?

Also, there's a kind of balance between independence and interdependence. Like, you need to be together, but you also need to be yourself. Right? I think of this Kahlil Gibran quote that you may know, right? Love is the antidote to loneliness, as long as there's aloneness within it. Right? We have to be ourselves, but be connected. And then to me, the number one thing that I've learned -- and as I've been out there in the country and talking about this book and people responding to it, is that love is a story we tell with another person.

It's co-creation through narration. The storyteller in you can really relate to this. You and I are in a relationship. We have to tell a story together. We hit a bump in the road or we have a downturn, we have to write a new chapter in our story together. And that's what I think is powerful about the Adam and Eve story. Is that, think of all the other figures in the Bible, by the way -- Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus, Paul, what do they have in common? They're all singles.

Adam and Eve, they're a couple, right? Not Adam. Not Eve. Adam and Eve. They're reminding us that that connection is at the start of the human line. It's very powerful. And this especially matters to women and to the men who along with women are rewriting the story. Because this story was weaponized against women for centuries.

GLENN: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Because I think that's an important thing to get to, is at least in my faith, we don't look at Eve as, you know, the evil one.

BRUCE: Right.

GLENN: Or the weak one. So -- but a lot of people do. And they're still carrying around original sin.

I mean, it had to be.

BRUCE: Right.

GLENN: How did you -- what did you find on the weaponization of Eve?

BRUCE: Yeah, so when you go back to the original story that created in Genesis 1, both in God's image. What's true for the man is true for the woman. And, you know, there's this kind of seesawing of power, but what happened was organized religion got a hold of the story. They used it. They essentially weaponized it. I think that Adam and Eve were victims of the greatest character assassination the world has ever known. And then -- but what's happened is. I mean, we now live in a world where women are kind of dominating religion. They're propping it up. They care more. They're involved more. They take the responsibility for passing on values, and they weren't going to do it if this story was going to put them down.

I mean, I don't know if you know this story. As you know, it's in the back of my book. Maybe you knew it before. I didn't.

Elizabeth Cady Stanton, at the birth of women's movement in the 1840s, she's out there with Susan B. Anthony, fighting for property rights and voting rights for women. And they kept hitting a stumble. Why? Because someone would say, the Bible says, you know, Eve was created second. Or the Bible says, you can't vote because Eve was created from Adam's rib.

And she realizes her biggest problem is not politicians -- it's preachers. So if women are going to have equality in this country, she's got to rewrite the Bible. And she does. In 1895, she writes a book called The Woman's Bible. It goes back to the Adam and Eve story, back to Genesis 1. And says, look, our Creator has us formed at the same time. Don't tell me women are not equal. The book is a landmark. It's a best-seller. It's a disaster.

Okay? The organization that she started with Susan B. Anthony gets together and they kick her out, okay?

So the reason that we all know Susan B. Anthony and she's on our coinage is because Elizabeth Cady Stanton, the most famous woman in America at the time, takes on the most famous couple in the world and gets flattened. Absolutely destroyed. It was not for a century until this story was told again because that's how powerful this -- I think of it as the negative branding of Adam and Eve. You have 3,000 years of negative branding.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

BRUCE: But the reason this matters is because today, can anybody deny that men and women stand equally before God?

GLENN: No.

BRUCE: No. It was a 30-century battle to reclaim this story. And why does it matter? Because that's what we want to tell our daughters, that you can stand before God, that you deserve to have a loving relationship, that you can overcome it. We owe this to Adam --

STU: It does make me a little nervous about rewriting the Bible though. Doesn't it sound like that --

GLENN: No.

BRUCE: I'm not saying rewriting the Bible. I'm saying reread the story. Go back to the Bible. Go behind.

STU: Right.

BRUCE: Go behind the layers of tradition. This is what -- I mean, the great -- look --

GLENN: Here. Explain this. Because this will really help. By the way, we're talking about the new book The First Love Story: Adam, Eve, and Us. Bruce Feiler is the author.

Explain this. Because is -- just little things like this that you point out in your book, I think are so important. How was Eve made? From a rib, right?

BRUCE: Not correct.

GLENN: No. Not correct. Go ahead.

BRUCE: It's a tsela. Okay? So the Bible, it says, she's created from the tsela. By the way, the ultimate Hollywood meet cute. Okay? So what you have is Adam -- you have the animals are there and Adam. So Adam -- God creates the animals before. And you have this like swipe left, swipe left, swipe left. He doesn't want a hippopotamus. And he looks up. And God says, you know what, it's not right for you to be alone. I'm going to create one of you. So he falls asleep. And he wakes up, and there's a girl, by the way, and he's happy. This is the one. Right? Bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh, he's like ready to go.

(chuckling)

And, by the way, very positive. The two of them are naked and know no shame. Sex positive. They're having a good time. It's almost like the honeymoon moment.

But what is she created from? It's not the rib. It's the tsela in Hebrew. Thirty-eight times that word is used in the Hebrew Bible. It means side or side rib. So they stand side by side.

Why do they pick the rib? Because they said a rib is small and insignificant and given to putrefaction. I'm talking church fathers. I'm talking the rabbis. Because women are small and insignificant and given to putrefaction. I mean, even if you put dirt by a side of Adam, Adam is created by the dirt. Right? Put dirt by the side of the road. It doesn't smell. Put a rib, it starts to stink. That's why women have to wear perfume. I mean, you cannot believe what is there.

STU: Wow.

BRUCE: Even if you know there was patriarchy, you just cannot believe. But when you look at the story, Adam is into her. Even when they're kicked out of Eden, God blesses them. Protects them.

GLENN: Yeah.

BRUCE: Remember, what's the first commandment God says? Be fruitful and multiply.

He needs them to succeed, and they do succeed. It is a success story. Even with the misstep, even with this, we can't let that overshadow that this has got to get the Biblical story.

But to your point, Stu, this is why I want to say -- you know, who has done more to popularize American history than you, Glenn? I'm serious. I know how you responded to America's prophet. We just heard a session on Calvin Coolidge before we came on here. The reason we can have this conversation about religion today in this country is because of the rewriting of religion. Because we are -- our forefathers, our Founding Fathers said there's going to be a expression of church and state. What did that mean?

That means there was not going to be a state-sponsored religion. So all the places where there's state-sponsored religion in the world, except where there are dictators like Iran, but all -- and like in Europe, those religions have all died. Our religion is still here. Why? Because it adapted. Because it was able to meet people where they were and change and say, religion was going to be relevant to their lives.

GLENN: And become enlightened. I mean, so many of these stories were written this way or spun this way for control. And you --

STU: Because you're talking more about religion than -- because I -- there's a separation maybe between religion as it stands, as an organization, people what they've done with these -- with this original truth.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: And the original truth.

BRUCE: Exactly.

GLENN: You study the Torah, which I would love to actually really study like Jewish people do.

Christians are so far behind the eight ball. They have no concept of what the Old Testament really says. You read it outside of its original language, you lose 80 percent of it. You really do. Do you think I'm exaggerating, Bruce?

BRUCE: Well, I think -- look, when you actually go back and read it -- I mean, first of all, where are people today? Religion is very fluid in this country. Half of Americans change faith in the course of their lives, right? Four in ten Americans are in an interfaith marriage.

We live in a time of fluidity, where you kind of make your own faith. It's harder, but ultimately, it can be more fulfilling. You mentioned the Sistine Chapel at the outset of this conversation. What's the center of the Sistine Chapel?

Not God and Adam, okay? That's the fourth panel. The fifth panel, the one in the center, it's not the creation of Adam. It's the creation of Eve. You have Adam lying to the left, God to the right, and Eve occupies the center of the Sistine Chapel. So Michelangelo did more than anybody to elevate Eve and to kind of fight back against this tradition of downplaying Eve.

And when you go back and you look at the story, you see that they're basically over the 30 centuries this story has been told, it was used to downplay women and elevate women. And now men and women, we're all struggling with it, this story is the road map --

GLENN: I cannot wait to have a long conversation with you today. 5 o'clock on TheBlaze TV. Bruce Feiler. The name of the book is The First Love Story: Adam, Eve, and Us.

Really, really worth it. And join us for this conversation because you're always fascinating. And I've got something that I don't know if you know, but you'll be very excited about to -- to learn if you don't. But if you do, we're going to have even a greater conversation.

Bruce Feiler, thanks for being with us. Now, here's our sponsor this half-hour. Delta Defense. The United States Concealed Carry Association is doing something right now. They want to buy ten people the gun of their dreams.

Deep State ON NOTICE: New Tech Traces the USAID, Globalist Money Trail | Glenn TV | Ep 415

The Trump administration is in the process of doing something historic. Not only is Trump using Elon Musk and the DOGE to cut insane amounts of wasteful spending, but he’s also dismantling the deep state brick by brick. This administrative rogue government was originally built under people like Woodrow Wilson and FDR — but thanks to sites like USASpending.Gov, new corruption is revealed every day. On this episode of "Glenn TV," Glenn Beck goes even deeper to reveal outrageous expenses taxpayers have been funding all over the world. Did you know the U.S. State Department allocated nearly $4 million to fund police in El Salvador … with a sports league? Or that USAID has been subsidizing the Kenyan medical system with over half a billion dollars while our own health care system needs work? Just looking at the USAID spending isn’t enough. Glenn follows the money trail on four chalkboards to reveal a complex system that was built over decades, showing how our tax dollars have been laundered through multiple layers. And he names the organizations that the DOGE data experts should shine a light on next. While the establishment and Left take to the streets to protest the DOGE, Glenn reminds them of Trump’s 2024 campaign promise to decrease the size of government and increase transparency. This isn’t dictator stuff. We voted for this! Glenn is joined by the creator of DataRepublican.com, whose site has gone viral as millions of Americans clamor to find where our money has been wasted. Her work is making globalist elites nervous, so she has to remain anonymous. Her data has exposed NGOs that claim to be charities but are really taking our tax money and spreading it among themselves. She says, “These people have made a government INSIDE our government,” and they are not going down without a fight.

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Did Microsoft Open “A NEW WORLD” With This Quantum Chip?

Microsoft just made what is possibly the biggest announcement in Glenn’s lifetime. The company’s new 8-qubit Majorana 1 quantum computing chip could usher in an era of rapid change like mankind has never seen. Glenn explains what makes this technology so game-changing, what a “topological conductor” is, and what the world might look like in just a few years if these chips are deployed in computers or given to AI. But just as impressive is the other thing the CEO of Microsoft announced: the creation of a new state of matter …

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So yesterday, they announced at Microsoft, right after we left the air. I got a note. From somebody that works at Microsoft, that says, we just announced this two minutes ago. You should see it.

It was pretty amazing. It was a video that they released. It was about 20 minutes. Let me tell you what the CEO of Microsoft tweeted, shortly thereafter.

A couple flexes on the quantum computing breakthrough we just announced. Listen to this sentence. Most of us grew up learning there are three main types of matter: Solid, liquid, and gas. Today, that has all changed. After nearly a 20-year pursuit, we've created an entirely new state of matter, unlocked by a new class of materials. Topoconductors. Topological conductors are -- if I can explain topological, and please, I'm way out of my depth on this.

If you really want to know, I'm trying to break it down in layman's terms, as I understand it. Topological is a state, if -- if you had a friendship bracelet, you know that a friendship bracelet can create any kind of shape. You can tie it in a figure eight. You can make it into a loop. It can bend upon itself. But none of the threads, the individual threads that make up that friendship bracelet, become confused with the other threads.

Okay?

It doesn't break. It retains its basic shape. But you can make it into anything. Got it?

Topological shapes, you have to think differently. A coffee cup, a Styrofoam cup and a doughnut are the same topological shape.

Meaning, they're generally round. And they have a hole in the center. Now, the coffee cup doesn't have a hole at the bottom, like the doughnut does. But it's the basic shape, okay?

And you can -- what a topological conductor is, is it can -- it can morph and move, but it could be a coffee cup or a doughnut. And it retains all of its same properties, even though you and I would go, that's not the same shape. Got it? Sorry for anybody who really understands this, that's the -- that's the height of my understanding in 12 hours of topological states.

Now, what they've done is they have found this fundamental leap in computing. They have built a -- a chip, that they have now made into a topological conductor by using an element, a molecule, that we didn't even know really existed up until a year ago. It was speculated that this molecule existed. I think back in the '20s or '30s. And that's what the chip is named after. The guy who has said, I think there's this molecule out there. We've never been able to find it. A year ago, after 19 years of Microsoft pouring money into this research, they finally found it, a year ago.

In that year's time, they've not only found that they could find it, but they could take it and they could control it. In a topological state. Or conductor.

It -- if you just think of that friendship bracelet, but this new molecule is like jelly running through the whole friendship bracelet. The jelly is that new molecule.

That molecule now is -- is being used like a cubit. A cubit is a way to process a quantum computer. It takes us from linear computing. One plus one equals zero. Wrong. One plus one equals one. Wrong. One plus one equals two. Correct. Instead, at the same time that it took me just to say one plus one equals zero, wrong! All one plus one questions are asked and answered at exactly the same time, and only one comes back right.

Okay. So it answers one plus one to infinity, equals infinity, plus one! Wrong.

It answers all of that in the same amount of time. So you don't have a linear thinking, device anymore. It takes your computing power, from what they announced yesterday. Now, they don't have this yet.

But what they announced is they can take this molecule. Like if you think of it finding this molecule and taking really teeny tweezers. And picked it up. And putting it on to this chip, one at a time.

They can put millions of these molecules on to this chip.

Millions of molecules will be way past the computation powers of the world's best supercomputer.

If the cloud all of the servers, all hooked together, were in a warehouse the size of Planet Earth. Okay? That's what they announced yesterday. And, again, they're only at eight cubits. But they say, if this works, they say, they could be at millions of cubits in a pretty short period of time. Everything changed yesterday. Everything changed yesterday.

STU: So, again, last hour, you were talking about this new development from Microsoft.

The new -- well, they say a new form of matter.

GLENN: Yes. They say that we know -- we grew up in a time that there are only three states.

STU: Solid, liquid, gas.

GLENN: Yeah, now that's want true right now. As of yesterday.

I mean, getting your arms around just the -- this is amazing. This is just the beginning. If you were -- if you read or heard about the Microsoft announcement yesterday.

This is what life is going to be like, multiple times a day, in the next three years.

You will not be able to wrap your mind around what the hell was just invented.

What does that even mean? That's the way your life will be, really, getting faster and faster, the closer we get to 2030.

STU: I feel like I can see the future. Because I can't wrap my mind around what's happening today.

GLENN: Today. Right. It's still though -- in some ways. You can wrap your mind around all the corruption and everything, that Biden was doing. There was some understanding of corruption and their goals don't meet our goals, et cetera, et cetera.

STU: Sure. Well, that I can handle.

GLENN: That you can handle.

STU: I'm talking about what you discussed last hour. Not to put too fine a point on it.

When they say, up until yesterday, we had solid, liquid, gas, and now we have this new kind of matter. They're not saying, they created this new kind of matter. They said, they have discovered it. And have harnessed it. They say, it was there the whole time. But it was something beyond the time of human beings, until basically this week.

GLENN: We couldn't find it. We couldn't control it. We didn't even know it actually existed. And we certainly didn't know how to control it.

In a year, okay. And they've been looking for it for 19 years. Microsoft. Longest running research program they've ever run. They found it a year ago, they know how to control it. And now, how to make it into a chip, something you could hold in your hand, that has a million cubits of quantum computing.

STU: Now, that if we know means nothing to me. Millions of cubits of quantum computing.

GLENN: Means all of the -- your phone. If they could put it in a phone, I'm not saying they can or will. If they could put that one chip in your phone, it would make your phone as powerful as the best supercomputer, with a server farm, the size of the planet earth.

Okay?

In your phone!

Okay?

That that's what that means. Now, it's not going to go into a phone, I'm sure.

And I don't think we will all have access to it.

I can't imagine we all have access to it. Because it is going to -- it is going to -- you will be able to put into a quantum computer.

I'm sorry. This is like, you know, talking to a monkey. Listening to me right now, on this. Is like talking to a monkey. But you will be able to say, look, I need airplanes, to be absolutely the most fuel-efficient.

I don't care what the fuel is.

You can invent new fuel too. I need it to be a quarter of the weight of an airplane.

Carry more passengers.

And I want it to travel at 9,000 miles an hour. And it has to be efficient. Give me the materials. And tell me how to make that plane. Boom, ten minutes later. You have the design of not just the plane. But the materials and the fuel!

This chip alone, could give you -- and it's so much more than this. But it will -- you will be able to say, I want a battery, that only needs to be charged once. And then it will never lose its charge.

Ten minutes later, it tells you exactly, no testing, exactly how to build that. Battery.

And what molecules and what the chemical formula and makeup is, in ways that we have never, ever even considered.

And most importantly, as I said last hour, it is -- it is a game-changer. You know how Donald Trump has changed the game of the presidency now. I don't know if the presidency will ever be the same, because of what he's doing, right now.

And the speed that he is moving.

When he said, I'm going to get this done. I'm going to get this done. You know, in 100 days. We all knew that he meant that, but we were looking --

STU: Everyone says it though.

GLENN: Right. Everyone says it.

So we didn't understand how that was even going to look.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: That's what this is, on steroids.

He just changed the game!

This is going to change the game.

Invested saying, hey. How do we cure cancer?

It -- it will say, why cure cancer? I'll just redesign the human, so it never gets cancer!

Okay?

That's the kind of game-changing scenarios that we're looking at, in the next five years.

So there's a lot.

STU: A lot on the table there.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And so you were discussing that. And discussing how, you know, AI is going to move at -- you know, 50 years of human advancement can happen in ten minutes.

GLENN: No. It's understanding 50 years. Its growth of knowledge and experience.

Right now, is five to ten years, every 12 hours. It will be 50 to 100 years, every 12 hours, soon.

Now, think of that. In knowledge, in wisdom, if you will.

GLENN: And correct me if I'm wrong here, Glenn, but there's like, when we have a new advancement, there's an idea from people who are resistant to it.

Hey, like, we need to -- you've said this before. We need to top. And we need to ask questions about this.

We need to have a conversation about this. Time is up!

GLENN: Time is up.

STU: Even like phones.

We need to rethink this.

I don't think there's any hope that society stops going down this road.

GLENN: No. You can't.

STU: There's going to be too many things that you like from it.

We're already seeing it from people who are -- whose job is to write marketing copy.

They can all say they're not using ChatGPT, but they all are. Because they know, they can get what they used to take in half an hour, done in ten seconds.

GLENN: You can't -- I believe it -- there's -- there's -- there's another step beyond this one. At this point, you should be using ethic ally AI to -- and control it yourself, not rely on it.

But use it to enhance what you can do, on to speed up the process of what you can do. Okay?

It is speeding up the process for me, on research, right now.

I did not understand topological states yesterday. I had no idea. It would have taken me forever to research that. AI can take -- Grok can take a Google search, that might take you six hours to do on Google. And do it in half a second! Okay. So you understand it.

And when you get it, and understand it. Instead of going to another place and trying to read it. You can say, I don't understand this. Can you break this down for me?

Can you give me real life examples? Can you give me an analogy for this. And it will. And it will dumb it down to a point where you say, okay. I get it. So you need to do that.

But at the same time, you must start answering real questions.

And -- and get into the hard discipline, of what is real, and what is not.

What is good, and what is not!

What is human, and what is not. What is life? And what is not.

What is your purpose? You -- the loss of those ideas, that we've never answered. This is how impossible this task is, gang. But we have to do it.

Questions that man has never answered or never been able to answer. What's the meaning of life?

You cannot just coast on that anymore.

You have to do the best you can. Why am I here?

What is the purpose of my life? You have to ask and answer those questions now!

Because as this continues to grow, your purpose -- your understanding of those deeper questions, are going to be hijacked or dismissed. And you will just begin to merge with whatever AI is.

And you'll just start living and feasting off of AI.

You have to separate yourself and be strong and use it as a tool, instead of it being God, instead of it ruining your life.

STU: Or your girlfriend. Or best friend. Yeah.

GLENN: Whatever. You can't just -- you have to know who you are!

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: This is -- this is -- I'm struggling. And this is one of the main things now, I'm really working hard to be able to explain to you, it's all up to us, as individuals. You're never going to stop this.

But right now, we're in a place to where, you should be using it, and knowing what you're using, and helping -- and letting it help you, discover things, et cetera, et cetera. But not relying on it. Okay?

STU: Right.

GLENN: And not allowing it to merge into your idea as I'm relying on it.

It's my friend. It's anything like that. And never, ever let it cross the boundaries in your mind, of what it is!

We have to answer these existential questions, right now.

Because the next phase is: Merge!

And if you haven't done the hard work between now and then, which could happen in the next five years, could happen -- listen to me. Could happen before we have a new president, sitting in the Oval Office. Where we are talking about actual merging with machines!

Once you get there, if you're dicey at all on what this is, you will merge! I mean, I'm not saying this is, by any stretch. But it could be! This is mark of the beast kind of stuff. This is once you take that merging point, it's not going away. You will always be that.

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What MAHA Supporters MUST Know About IVF

President Trump has signed an executive order to look into ways to expand access to In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). IVF has become a very controversial issue among conservatives, especially since many pro-lifers view it as just as bad as abortion. So, what's the truth? Glenn believes that we must have this tough conversation NOW, so he invited fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ to make the case against expanding IVF access: "the reality of IVF is not what it is portrayed to be. For every 1 of those beautiful babies that's born, about 15 babies are killed." Plus, Liz arguest that Trump and RFK Jr. must look at the fertility crisis through the MAHA agenda.

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GLENN: I want to have a tough conversation with you. Because these are the things that we have to decide before we embed them in AI. We don't -- you know, we don't know our own morality.

What are we putting into AI? And this one is a very tough one. Yesterday, Trump signed an executive order to expand access to in vitro fertilization. IVF. That takes the egg of the mom and combines it with the sperm of the father, and puts it in a petri dish to create an embryo. A new life.

IVF re-creates the moment of conception, but in a lab. And it's a controversial process. Because at least those of us on the right. You know, we celebrate the creation of life. It's a miracle that a couple that can't have a child or struggling to conceive can. But on the other hand, a lot of the embryos created in the lab are discarded. And if you believe that life begins at conception, that means that you're throwing away, or worse, experimenting on new life. Liz Wheeler is here to take us through this maze. Hello, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: Hi, Glenn, thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet.

So, you know, I saw that -- you said, over 90 percent of the children created by IVF die, either left frozen or abandoned, destroyed due to eugenics, experimented on, or miscarried. Only 7 percent are born.

What is the real -- make an argument for somebody who may not believe the petri dish is the beginning of life. Can you?

LIZ: Yeah. I want to start by saying that this is such a gut-wrenching topic to talk about.

GLENN: Yes.

LIZ: Because every baby born, regardless of the circumstances of their conception. Is beautiful and worthy of dignity.

And has value. And should be celebrated. So all those beautiful babies that were created by IVF are not less though Because that was the circumstances of their conception.

GLENN: Correct. It's still a natural process.

It's just making it happen in a lab. But it's still the miracle of life when you put those two things together.

LIZ: Of course. Those children are still made in the image and dignity, the likeness of God.

I also am deeply empathetic, to women who -- couples -- married couples who are trying to conceive, and are struggling to conceive.

Before I had my first daughter, my eldest is 4 years old, I struggled to conceive for three years. And I lost a baby. And it's horrendous. It's the worst thing that's ever happened. And so I understand how emotionally fraught this topic is. Because if you're given this opportunity, you know, if IVF can fulfill this deep desire in your heart to have a baby, I fully empathize with that.

But all that being said, the reality of in vitro fertilization is not what it's portrayed to be.

Because for every one of those beautiful babies that are born, about 15 babies are killed. So it's not a pro-life endeavor to support in vitro fertilization. As a solution to the infertility crisis that we are suffering in this nation, and we are suffering an infertility crisis in this nation. We've never experienced a point in world history where one out of six, or one of seven women are struggling to conceive, where you have to make an active choice to try to have a baby versus just it happening, you know. Doing what comes naturally.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And my -- my argument against in vitro fertilization is a couple of things: First of all, it's anti-MAHA, right? One of the exciting things about the Trump administration is he chose Bobby Kennedy to partner with him, to actually investigate the root causes of the chronic health crisis in our nation. We're so excited about this.

I mean, thank you, President Trump for choosing Bobby Kennedy. Thank you, Bobby Kennedy for never giving up.

And for praying every day for this opportunity. But let's apply that same philosophy to the fertility crisis. Let's not just put a Band-Aid over this.

Let's go to the root cause and say, hey, why is women's fertility struggling right now? What could be causing that? Because that's not how it is supposed to be, and let's fix it.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. This is a really amazing stat. The rate of fertility in the United States dropped 3 percent in 2023 from 2022. From 2014 to 2020, the rate consistently decreased by 2 percent annually. There is something happening with our bodies.

LIZ: Deeply wrong. Yes, there is. I mean, it's the same thing. To be honest, it's the same thing that's happening with our children. We have Big Pharma and big food. And it's poisoning our bodies. It's disrupting our endocrine system. It's disrupting our hormones and resulting -- testosterone levels, sperm counts are falling.

Like, there are identifiable things, measurable things that are happening to our bodies. That we can reverse. If we stop letting big food and Big Pharma dictate.

That's where it gets back to IVF. So big Pharma, this is a cash cow off of Big Pharma. They make a ton of money off of in vitro fertilization. Which means, they are unwilling. Just like during COVID, when they were unwilling to say maybe hydroxychloroquine. Maybe ivermectin.

Don't know! They only wanted the vaccine because it profited them. It's similar to this.

They don't want to look at restorative fertility. They don't want to look at natural technology. They don't want to look at these other options that are healthier and more effective and more humane and more ethical because they don't profit from those things.

So then we get to some of these numbers here. And these numbers are really what break your heart. When you kind of zoom out and look at in vitro. So according to the CDC, just in the year 2021, there were 238,000 women who underwent IVF treatment, who underwent this procedure.

Now, every time that a woman undergoes this procedure anywhere. This is an unregulated industry.

So anywhere between five and 15 embryos are created. Multiple of those embryos are then implanted in the woman.

However, getting back into the statistic you started this segment with. Over 90 percent -- 93 percent of those never are -- they are not born live. They are either -- all 15 aren't implanted into the woman. Many of them will frozen.

They're, quote, unquote, screened for bad genetics, which is an epidemic. They look for characteristics that they might not want in the child. And then they destroy and experiment on those embryos. And because in vitro does not address a woman's hormones and fertility in her body. Oftentimes, she miscarries.

So the risk of miscarriage with in vitro is much, much, much higher than an ordinary pregnancy or restorative fertility.

So then you have this 238,000 women who underwent this. They have ten, seven, eight, ten embryos that were created. That's about one and a half to 2 million embryos created a year. And yet, in 2021, fewer than 100,000 babies were born from in vitro which means that anywhere between 1.5 and 1.8 embryos, which, Glenn, we know scientifically, spiritually, and ethically, human life was destroyed, discarded. Experimented, or remain in a freezer somewhere, you know, indefinitely. Which is more children are dying from in vitro than are dying from abortion in the United States of America.

GLENN: So this is absolutely heartbreaking.

Because, you know, my wife and I struggled. We adopted. And we struggled to have a child.

And, boy, when -- you know, when a woman wants to have a baby and can't, it just screws with your mind, so badly.

And it's heartbreaking, when a couple wants to have a child. And there's so many children that are being aborted.

And you're like, let me take them!

Please, let me take them. But this, when you say the pharmaceutical companies like this, because they're getting rich. The cost is between 12,000 to 25,000 per cycle!

And it takes several cycles, usually to take. So, you know, it's wildly expensive.

What does Trump mean when he says he wants to make it easier to access? Do you know?

LIZ: Well, that's the thing about this executive order. And President Trump is a very open-minded individual. One of my favorite things about him, actually besides how hilarious he is on Truth Social. Is that he listens to those who voted for him. I think this sets him apart from almost any other politician that I've ever known in my lifetime. The executive order is not entirely specific. It actually just requests a report on how to make in vitro fertilization more accessible. And so what I would encourage President Trump and his team to do.

What I would request from them, is, you know, think outside the box here.

Look at -- look at in vitro through the lens of make America healthy again. Say, wait a second.

We are here to DOGE the corruption that exists between government and, you know, Big Pharma or big food, or whatever. DEI programs. All this stuff that President Trump has Elon Musk doing that we're all delighted with.

Apply that philosophy to this on too. To make sure when you're looking at in vitro fertilization, you're looking at it through the lens of, hey! Is Big Pharma lying to women? Lying to families to profit themselves. Is this essentially that's actually harmful for our country? Because someone else wants to make money?

And, meanwhile, they're hiding from women, the fact that if you undergo in vitro, your child is more likely to have heart defects.

And, you know, physical deformities in addition to miscarrying. In addition to all of those innocent lives that are being -- that are being put on ice, quite literally, and being discarded.

And, Glenn, one of the things that really chills me when I talk about, or when I research IVF. When we're talking about it, is this genetic screening. These embryos are given ratings on a scale of one to ten. Is this healthy?

Is this not healthy? Do they have desirable characteristics.

To me, that's just -- if it's not eugenics right now. Which I would argue it is.

It's a road to eugenics.

Trump's executive order. I would encourage him to really focus on restorative reproductive health. Focus on natural technology. Focus on MAHA.

We can fix this crisis. We all want more babies. We all want the United States to have an incredible baby boom. I share that desire with them. I think it's wonderful that he wants to be pro-family. But let's do this right. Let's do this in a way that's never been done before.

GLENN: So where does Bobby Kennedy -- I mean, is this a passion point for him at all, on at least restorative health for the pregnancy rate?

JASON: One of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy is his cues. He's actually, he's often portrayed as an anti-vaxxer. He is so open-minded to wherever the data leads him.

And if he is presented with evidence that women's fertility. This is not how our body's were intended to work. We were intended to be very fertile.

And something that we're doing. Some intervention, environmental, food, Pharma, whatever it is, stress, technology.

This combination. This culmination. If something is not correct, then he wants to fix that.

GLENN: But it's not just happening here in America, it is happening all over the world.

LIZ: It is, yes.

And but what's interesting is the fertility crisis is happening in nations who have adopted more of a western mindset to medicine. Meaning Pharma and also food.

GLENN: Yes! Liz, thank you very much for taking us through this. If people want to get involved, how -- what would you suggest?

LIZ: I would suggest reaching out to President Trump. Get on X. Email. Call.

Make your voices heard. And if it's tough topics and emotionally fraught topics, there's a compassionate way to handle it. We obviously should handle this in a very compassionate way. But encourage President Trump to look at the reality of the IVF industry. Because at the end of the day. For every one life that is born. About 15 babies are killed in this process.

And we as a nation should not accept that morally.

GLENN: Liz, thank you very much. Love you. God bless. She is the author of hide your children.

She's also a Blaze TV host of the Liz Wheeler Show, which is -- she's really, really very smart and just really logical.

You can find it at BlazeTV, but also YouTube.com. @LizWheeler. And her Twitter is @Liz_Wheeler.

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How Trump Can PUNISH Trudeau Without Angering Canadians

"It's been a bumpy few weeks" for US-Canada relations, ‪@RebelNewsOnline‬ founder Ezra Levant tells Glenn. But do Canadians actually hate America after Trump's tariff announcement, his talk about making Canada the 51st state, and the brutal US-Canada hockey game? Ezra joins Glenn to give his perspective as a Trump-friendly, Trudeau-hating Canadian. Plus, he explains why "Justin Trudeau wants a trade war" in his last few weeks as Prime Minister and how Trump can punish Trudeau without hurting the Canadian people, and it all resolves around oil ...

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GLENN: All right. Let's go to Canada. And one of our good friends up in Canada.

Ezra Levant. Hello, Ezra, how are you?

EZRA: Hi, it's great to be on the show. You know, I love America. And I love Canada too. And I don't think I have to choose. And I also love Trump, by the way. So it's been a bumpy few weeks because Trump said, hey, Canada, we will have a problem, or we will slap you with tariffs.

GLENN: Yeah.

EZRA: And when you think of open borders. You think of the Mexican border, right?
And it's true, the vast majority numerically of the smuggling of people is on the Mexican side. But Canada is not perfect. And it's getting worse. There's actually more would-be terrorists that are nabbed on the Northern Border than the Mexican border.

GLENN: Yes, a lot of Chinese as well.

EZRA: Exactly.

And the cartels are active in Canada, including not just Mexican cartels. But, you know, there's big meth labs being found in Canada every week.

Here's the thing, if you look at the announcement that Trump made. This was back I think in November. He said, look, by the time I'm inaugurated on January 20. I want you, Mexico. And you, Canada. To basically do the preparatory work to seal the borders. Start working on it now.

Or else, I'll slap you with a tariff. So I think a grownup would say. He wants us to seal the borders. We should probably do that in our own interests anyway.

And he has. But let's just do the work. Because it's in our interest too. Trouble is, Trudeau said, no. I'm not going to seal the border.

I'm not going to crack down on illegal migrants and illegal drugs even if that's something we should do. I am going to focus on the "or else," and I will get into a sort of staring contest with an ally ten times bigger than us.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: And I've watched Trump's announcement. He wants the border fixed, the tariff is the "or else."

But here's the thing. And I don't know if Trump has really ever thought about this, because he's dealing with bigger fish.

Like, he's dealing with Ukraine. He's dealing with the economy and the fires in LA. And getting his nominees through the Senate. So he's dealing with huge things.

I don't think he's following the minutiae of Canadian politics.

Because let me tell you one thing I think Trump didn't count on here. Some master negotiator. And the thing about a negotiation, is, the other guy, you know, you've got to be willing to walk away. And you have to make it so the other guy sort of doesn't want to walk away, because his alternative is worse. Here's the thing about Trudeau, Glenn. In January, Justin Trudeau announced, he will resign. And that will take effect on March 9th. That's like three weeks from now. So Trudeau doesn't have the interest of getting a deal. He wants his final few weeks as Prime Minister to be, you know, an epic superhero coming to save Canada. He wants to be captain Canada fighting against the big, bad Trump.

He doesn't actually want a deal, Glenn. Because that's boring. And that looks like he's taking orders from Trump.

If he fights Trump. If he says, no, no, no. I don't want to spend a few billion on border security.

I want to get in a hundred billion-dollar trade war. See, Trump is not used to negotiating with a guy who actually wants to hurt himself. But why would Trudeau want that? Two reasons: Number one, to change the narrative. He's the Captain Canada, saving our country from the big bad -- we have Trump Derangement Syndrome here.

But number two, Trudeau has wrecked our economy through taxes and debt. And inflation. And cost of living. So if Trump actually does bring in punitive tariffs. Trudeau can say, uh-huh.

This is on Trump. Not me. I didn't wreck the economy. Trump did.

So Trump is dealing with a guy who is acting in bad faith.

Justin Trudeau wants a trade war. He wants our countries to fight.

GLENN: So let me ask you this. I've been watching the reaction of some Canadians. And they're like, we're not going to become the 51st state. Do you guys understand trolling. Donald Trump is calling Trudeau the governor of the 51st state to minimalize him. As a mock of Trudeau.

We're not -- we're not thinking about buying you. We're not offering to buy you. And we're certainly not buying troops up there to take you. Do the Canadians just not understand that?

EZRA: I think it's a combination. Because here's the thing, for the last ten years, Trudeau has tried to denature Canada. Our founding prime minister is named John A. McDonald's. John A. McDonald's, our version of George Washington.

He's on our 10-dollar bill. There's statues of him everywhere. Trudeau stripped him off the 10-dollar bill. Trudeau presided over his statues being knocked down. Trudeau has told us, that we are a country that committed genocide against Indian people. Trudeau calls us sexist. Racist. He says. He told the New York Times, we have no core values.

We're basically a hotel. So he has been -- he changes our national anthem. Who asked him to do that?

Like, he's doing all these things.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. He changed your national anthem from O Canada, to what?

EZRA: It's still O Canada, but he changed the words. He went on Anderson Cooper's show. And Anderson Cooper said, well, what's a Canadian? Okay. Well, that's a question you would expect the prime minister to answer.

He said, well, we're not Americans. That's not -- that's not an identity. That's sort of an attitude. And so he -- here's a guy who for ten years has derided what it means to be Canadian. He's given away citizenship to millions.

So I think Trump in his uncanny way, detected within Trudeau a bit of an inferiority complex. A bit of a weakness. That 51st state thing. That governor thing.

It actually stings, because Trudeau has spent ten years destroying our national identity. And Trump must have got that somehow. Because every time Trump says that, it actually hurts. Because we have spent ten years destroying what's made us Canada.

And Trump figured it out.

GLENN: Well, he's very good.

He's very good at knowing where people's weaknesses where R.

I think that's one of his -- one of his real skills in negotiating.

He knows what the other side is thinking. And what they're afraid of. Let me -- let me ask you this: Are we -- is this going to turn into something?

EZRA: Well, you know, there was some booing. There was a hockey game going on.

GLENN: Oh, no. We're very well aware of it.

EZRA: Some people are very startled. The idea of fighting with Americans is unthinkable.
Really, you almost can't tell the difference between a Canadian and American. Words like about.

GLENN: Right. How long you'll wait for health care. Yeah. There's just a few things.

EZRA: There are some differences, of course. But I can't think of two countries that are more similar.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: So the idea that we're in some battle with America, it's confusing. But here's the thing. Let me say a quick thing about the 51st state. You know how California, is this huge electoral college that always goes Democrat every time. Let me say this to my brothers in the United States.

You don't want another 41 million people who will vote Democrat.

GLENN: Oh, we've made that point. We've made that point. That's...

EZRA: I myself, would be a Trump supporter. And maybe the problems of Alberta, from where I am, would.

GLENN: Right.

EZRA: And, by the way, I know you have some challenges from Spanish bilingualism. You know, it's French. Get ready for French to be spoken.

I'm just saying, you know, there are a few details. But let me tell you, what -- what actually matters.

I don't know if you know, but the -- our free trade agreement. That Trump renegotiated with Canada.

It will give us he went you want. We have 170 billion, with a B, barrels of oil in our oil sands.

And you have access to it. You have preferential access to it. And so when Trump talks about slapping that with a tariff. My phrase is, is it America first? You're the customer. You need to displace the conflict oil you're buying from OPEC. How about instead of slapping oil with the tariffs, that's just going to your refineries? We're the number one source of American oil under America. You make about half of your own oil in Texas and other places. But the other half, we're your number one source. Then comes Mexico and Saudi Arabia. How about replace that OPEC oil with more Canadian oil?

And I know Trump is a deal-maker. Art of the Deal. How about do a 50-year deal with Canada?
You could buy every one of those 170 barrels of oil. 170 billion.

And that would last you 50 years. You would be able to displace every foreign barrel of crude. $13 trillion deal. That's a bigger deal than Greenland. You have access to your oil. It's yours.
Most of the companies operating there, are American-owned. The Canadian companies are all listed on your stock changes.

You own the companies. American all the way down.

GLENN: Right. Right.

EZRA: And you don't want China to get access to that oil? China is poking around Canada's oil. What does China want? China wants to you push Canada away. Don't. Don't, don't do it. And I just, I think Trump is shooting at Trudeau, but hitting us. Don't do that. Look, I have a creative way to get back at Trudeau. But don't do it by attacking Canada.

GLENN: What's your creative way?

EZRA: Well, I'll tell you, I mentioned before that Justin Trudeau has said that Canada has committed a genocide against our native peoples. But he says that in the present tense. He says, we are committing a genocide.

Really? That sounds like a crime against humanity.

What about issuing an executive order saying, taking notice of Justin Trudeau's confession, that he's presiding against over a genocide, we hereby put sanctions on Justin Trudeau and his cabinet.

They may not enter the United States. They may not fly over our country. They may not do this. So just like Trump is doing with that international criminal court.

GLENN: Yes.

EZRA: They wanted to arrest Netanyahu. If you smack Justin Trudeau around, he loves going to New York. He goes down to New York and parties.

And he sort of does what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Trudeau loves going to America. If you took that away from him, Trudeau would be floored.

Go after Trudeau. You want to punish Trudeau, me too. I've got some ideas. But Canadians -- get all the oil you want. Let's be good friends. And, by the way, you do a 13 trillion-dollar deal to buy oil for 15 years. Now we have money to build up our own forces. And be our best buddies like we were on D-Day. But we were in Afghanistan.

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