GLENN: Did you hear what NBC -- Lester Holt said about North Korea?
STU: Jeffy did. Because Jeffy is the king of the Lester Holt fan club.
PAT: For some reason, Jeffy is obsessed with Lester Holt.
JEFFY: I mean, Lester Holt is one of the finest news --
GLENN: Okay. Did you hear -- he had the North Korean dictator on?
PAT: Kim Jong-un.
GLENN: No, no, not dictator. Defector. Sorry.
PAT: Oh, okay. Yes.
GLENN: Okay. Did you see the defector?
PAT: Yes.
GLENN: What did the defector say?
PAT: He said that Kim Jong-un is serious. He's crazy. And he'll do it. He'll nuke us. He will use his nuclear weapons.
GLENN: I believe him. I believe him.
I talked to a guy who was very high up in the CIA just recently, last week, and he said -- I said, "What do we do?" And he said, "We're, quite frankly, out of options." Now, he just left, I don't know last summer. And he said, "I think we're out of options, Glenn. We all believe."
PAT: They're talking for a strike. The Trump administration --
JEFFY: Yes, they are. Absolutely they are.
PAT: And they should be. When you got somebody threatening us with EMPs and nuclear weapons and saying that he's going to launch against Hawaii, you got to take that seriously and maybe eliminate that threat.
GLENN: So here's what was said on NBC with Lester Holt: He's a desperate dictator, and the world should be ready.
PAT: Yeah. Yeah.
STU: And did you hear the statements from the administration yesterday? First Rex Tillerson's statement on North Korea, after they launched their most recent missile. This is the entire statement: North Korea has launched yet another intermediate-range ballistic missile. The United States has spoken enough about North Korea. We have no further comment.
GLENN: That's really scary.
STU: Yeah. And then this is a senior White House official told reporters Tuesday night in a briefing with reporters, the clock has now run out, all options are on the table.
PAT: Well, yeah, Trump said, if China doesn't take care of these guys and get them under control, we will. We will.
JEFFY: China better.
GLENN: Okay. So here's -- may I give you an ad for Goldline? What does that mean for your dollar?
PAT: Yeah, it's scary.
GLENN: What does that mean to the economy?
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: We may -- and honestly, I sat in that meeting and I said, "What do we do?" This guy looked at me and said, "There's a possibility we do first strike."
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And I said, "Nukes?" He said, "I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think so." He said, "But I don't know." He said, "There is talk now about using tactical nukes on North Korea and shut him down."
PAT: No, you wouldn't -- you wouldn't to have use nuclear weapons to take out his nuclear weapons. Right?
GLENN: To get into the real hardened places you would. Use tactical nukes. They burrow themselves --
PAT: Yeah, they've got conventional weapons to do that now.
STU: Now they have solid fuel too, so it's harder to detect these launches. And we're not even talking about, by the way, Syria, who is in the middle of launching chemical attacks on their own people right now.
GLENN: I know. Which John Kerry said -- remember the tweet? I found it this morning. He tweeted, the last 8 percent of all the Syrian chemical weapons --
PAT: Just -- they were just used on their people. So now they're gone.
GLENN: Yeah, they're all gone. Good job to the UN and the United Nations.
PAT: I got to say, job well done by us.
GLENN: Right. Horrible. Horrible.