GLENNFebruary 24, 2017

Want to Help Stop Sex Trafficking in Thailand? Here's Your Chance

Bangkok remains a lightning rod for sex trafficking with one of the most active networks for selling and buying children. Tim Ballard with Operation Underground Railroad (OUR) likened the ease of buying a child for sex with ordering Chinese food from a menu.

"You walk down the street, you're going to see window displays of half nude women and minors dancing. If you go into the places . . . you're going to see a stage with minors and adults mixed," Ballard explained about an upcoming trip he'll be taking to that very spot with Glenn.

"You're going to see westerners everywhere. You're going to see people, they're going to come up to you with a laminated menu like they're selling Chinese food. Would you like number one, two or four, and you're going to see on the laminated menu sex acts."

Glenn's response was visceral.

"Oh, my god. Why do they not shut this down?" he asked.

Ballard is trying to do just that in partnership with the government of Thailand --- but he needs help.

"We're looking for somebody that we desperately need," Ballard appealed.

OUR is currently looking to hire someone with experience in undercover work, child exploitation and digital forensic, preferably a former undercover operator from the government who is perhaps retired. The cherry on top would be someone who speaks Thai.

"It's kind of a long list, but we need someone over there . . . the Thai government wants it. They want us to provide someone who can provide guidance. They would work as an informant, signed up and certified by the Thai police."

Interested parties may contact OUR online.

GLENN: Welcome to the program. Tim Ballard is with us. Tim is an author, multibooks. One of them is the Covenant, which was the first book that I was introduced to you with, which talks about the covenant that this -- that George Washington made at the time of our founding. Cover this real quick.

TIM: Yeah, he believed that there was a power. He tapped into the power of ancient Israel. I mean, he believed that the ancient Israelites have created something, a society with god, and it brought miracles and created a foundation of liberty. He utilized that, got the office to make those same covenants, got the army to make those same covenants, and the theory goes that that's how we won, earned independence.

GLENN: Right.

So we were in Haiti a couple of months ago, Pat was with us. And it is evil. I mean, there is something very dark in Haiti that you just -- your heartbreaks for the people that are there. I mean, look at Haiti. It's always destroyed over and over and over again. I understand weather patterns and everything else. But they have been from the beginning, they were a slave station, and then they had a revolution. And I found out this time when I was there -- and this is kind of hearsay -- they teach this in Haiti, don't they?

TIM: Oh, they teach it. It's part of their culture. Part of the society.

GLENN: So at the time, we were making the American covenant, Haiti made the Haitian covenant, but it's the exact opposite.

TIM: Yeah.

GLENN: Do you know the story?

TIM: They teach the political leaders got together and made a pact with the dark side. I mean, they teach -- this is not me talking. It's what they're telling me. They believe it. It's taught. It's believed and so many good people there are trying to get out from under this.

GLENN: And this is really where voodoo and everything else comes from; right?

PAT: That's creepy.

TIM: Totally. There's voodooism in there and there's a lot of darkness around that.

GLENN: Right. And the slaves, they killed -- wasn't Haiti French?

TIM: Right the -- it's a great story. I mean, it's the only country that gained its independence through a slave revolution. They rose up. The same year I believe our bill of rights.

GLENN: Yeah, 1791.

TIM: 1791. They rose up and pushed the French up. The French then moved over to New Orleans. That's how we got all of that voodoo in New Orleans from that revolution because that's where they ran away. And then they never fully got all of the slave mentality.

GLENN: Yeah, they just started enslaving each other.

TIM: Until today, it's still going on.

GLENN: It's absolutely crazy. And I don't know. I mean, Tim and I were just talking about this while we were over there, and I would love to find a scholar on Haiti that really knows to find out if there's truth to that. You know, a lot of people will dismiss that, but people dismiss that the American covenant.

TIM: Of course.

GLENN: I absolutely believe in the American covenant. What's the rabbi's name that wrote the book on the covenant the harbinger. Have you ever read that?

TIM: Yeah. I actually introduced it to Jonathan, our books came out at the same time.

PAT: So have you heard of it?

GLENN: Tim, let me tell you something about the harbinger.

STU: Let me tell you about something called operation rescue. It's incredible.

GLENN: Okay. Smart guy. So we're getting ready in just a couple of hours to get onto a plane and spend 20 hours on a plane to get to Bangkok.

TIM: Yes.

GLENN: But you're not taking me to the nice places in Bangkok.

TIM: Oh, no.

PAT: Are there nice places in Bangkok?

GLENN: It's supposedly beautiful.

TIM: The city's beautiful. Yeah.

GLENN: You're taking me to a place in Bangkok -- can you say the name?

TIM: I'm not going to say the name we're taking you.

GLENN: So we're going some place that has been described -- not only by you, but several other people not with the organization who say there is no place on earth or in hell that is quite as bad as this.

TIM: True. This is true.

GLENN: Explain.

TIM: We're going to take you to a place, that I think I described earlier today. It's a small world ride add Disneyland but imagine as all those kids are -- this is horrible. But they're being sold for sex. You walk down the street, you're going to see window displays of half nude women and minors dancing. If you go into the places, and I don't know -- guide me how far you want to go.

GLENN: I want to see it. I want to see it all.

TIM: You're going to see a stage with minors and adults mixed.

GLENN: And they're selling them.

TIM: They're selling them. It's like an auction block. There's a Russian sector, a Japanese sector, an Arab sector.

GLENN: That is for who is being bought or who is buying?

TIM: It's for who is being sold.

GLENN: So the Russian. This is a Russian boy.

TIM: Right.

GLENN: This is an Arab boy.

TIM: What do you want? A Russian boy on Friday? And we'll show you the Arab boy you can take. And it's mostly westerners. You're going to see westerners everywhere. You're going to see people, they're going to come up to you with a laminated menu like they're selling Chinese food. Would you like number one, two, or four, and you're going to see on the laminated menu sex acts, and they're going to try to entice you --

GLENN: Oh, my god. Why do they not shut this down?

PAT: Yeah.

TIM: Thailand thrives -- its economy thrives on this tourist industry. But they are serious about getting into the underbelly of this, which is the child part of it. And we have met -- we worked very hard to vet out who we can work with and the government. We have found some amazing people. We just built a digital forensic lab.

GLENN: We're cutting the ribbon on that, are we not?

TIM: Yes, absolutely.

GLENN: So explain what this is. We have a job for somebody. Everybody says, oh, I wish I could help. I'm going to give you two ways that you can help. And one is really getting into it. But you have to have special qualifications.

TIM: Yes.

GLENN: So explain that.

TIM: So we just built together with some U.S. agencies a state-of-the-art digital forensic lab, which you can't -- see, all of these kids are being sold online. They're being sold on escort sites, sold on places the only way you can preserve and identify and grab the evidence is through forensic tools. And it's this beautiful lab that they can now go in and find these guys. What happens is westerners come over, Americans come over, they get online, they know where to go, and they get introduced into these networks. So if they don't have a lab to be able to intercept these dark deals going on on the dark net and other places.

GLENN: This is on dark net?

TIM: A lot of it is on dark net. Absolutely. But we've given them the tools so that they can intervene in the deals.

GLENN: So to keep it clean to make sure it's good and to oversee it, you're looking for who?

TIM: We're looking for somebody that we desperately need. Somebody who has -- preferably former undercover operator from the government who is perhaps retired, has a lot of experience in -- not only undercover work but child exploitation, digital forensic if possible. And preferably speaks Thai. So it's kind of a long list, but we need someone over there that the Thai government wants it. They want us to provide someone who can provide guidance. They could work as -- they would work as an informant signed up and certified by the Thai police.

GLENN: Now, here's the challenge, audience. When he said this, he said to me we so desperately need it, and I said come on our show. We'll talk about it. You'll have somebody by the end of the week.

He didn't tell me he had to also speak Thai. I mean, I can't --

TIM: That's a cherry on top. That's not a requirement.

GLENN: We are looking for somebody who really has not only the experience but the soul of steel because honestly, you know, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how -- how many times before you had the perspective of anything I'm going through is nothing compared to the kids? How many times a week or a day did you think I can't do this another second?

TIM: All the time. There's -- I was thinking about that as you were talking earlier. I remember times -- especially in the beginning where I would see an image -- I see my kids faces in all the kids that we see. I can't see it. I used to hate it. I now appreciate it because it keeps my heart fully in the game. But there were times when I would literally get in my car, leave work, drive to my kids school, check my kids out, take them home, and just put my arms around them and hug them and not let them leave me. I mean, that's -- that was a lot in the beginning times and the beginning part of my career. But I appreciate that. I appreciate that I see my kids faces. We all should. Because there are kids that they don't have -- if any child that has no parent --

GLENN: What is suicide rate among your colleagues in the world? I mean, what is the drinking rate? There has got to be a number of people who do not have faith like you do that just can't take the daily beating.

TIM: They don't usually allow someone to stay in that work for more than a couple years before they rotate them out. There's a required psychological evaluation that we have to go through and my guys go through -- we have a psychologist who's volunteer but resident psychologist who regularly checks up on us. It's devastating. You're in hell. I mean, you have to go in hell to pull these kids out.

GLENN: So if you really want to make a difference, you would have to relocate to Thailand.

TIM: Yes.

GLENN: But you would be working at this state-of-the-art digital lab. I've heard a lot of people say Glenn, you can't work with the Thai government. And they've said that about the Haiti government and everything else. You are very careful on who you're working with. You know this game because you've seen it from the governmental side.

TIM: Absolutely. We've taken months and months to make sure we're working with the right people in the government and that we are working with the --

GLENN: And, Pat, when we were in Haiti, talk about the guy that we saw at dinner that came in and the -- that guy, I don't know how that guy doesn't get killed at some point in his life. Do you remember him, Pat?

PAT: Which one.

GLENN: The guy who came in, and he had just arrested the president's bodyguard for abuse of children and put him in prison and then the president, the old president said, no, I pardon him. Let him out. And this guy went back and rearrested him.

PAT: Yeah.

TIM: Yeah.

PAT: The courage of that guy.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: Just really amazing.

GLENN: I mean, there are some of these guys that are really dedicated.

TIM: What happened with that guy, he was the detective on the first rescue we did. You know, how they -- a lot of Haitian traffickers set up these fake orphanages where people bring in the kids, and they sell them. And he helped us liberate 28 children. The very first operation, we got 28 kids out, and you met a lot of them. That -- he was a detective at the time. He just became a chief of the child crimes unit for Haiti and one of his first calls was to us and said, guys, I'm in charge now. Get down here. Let's operate. That's what led to the Super Bowl rescue.

GLENN: We're going to talk about that here in a second. And I want to tell you something really, really -- and I think really exciting and something you want to get involved with. Operation underground railroad. It's OurRescue.org. You can get involved a million different ways from giving $5 a month to being on a prayer team. Go to OurRescue.org. Back in just a second.

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GLENN: I said to Tim, I don't remember where we were, and I think he thought I was joking or would like it if I was joking, but I wasn't. I think the time will come that you there -- somewhere in the world, there will be a statute built of Tim Ballard.

TIM: You promised with me you would never share that thought.

JEFFY: I believe it.

STU: That is Glenn Beck. He will tell you that off the air and then on the air, it doesn't count.

GLENN: Because I have a bad memory, and I don't remember things like that.

PAT: And because he wants to say it.

STU: He wants to say it. That's a good reason not to make the promise; right? If you can't remember not to say it later.

GLENN: So I want to say this blanket for anybody in my life that doesn't already know this, I mean, there's a reason I have very few friends.

STU: Right.

PAT: Yes.

STU: I'm kind of interested in this trip. Because you've got Glenn Beck going to Bangkok while you're doing slums.

GLENN: The slums of bang cock.

STU: You're doing this amazing work to try to rescue these children, and you're saying that this area is loaded with westerners. I mean, Glenn, people -- wouldn't you think that someone might recognize him. This is not the time to come up for an autograph, by the way.

TIM: Yeah, we were talking to Glenn's security earlier. How do we prevent -- before we get the message out with the headlines and tabloids Glenn Beck caught in brothel. Pictures. And I thought, oh, my gosh what if that happens?

GLENN: Jeez. I never thought of it that way.

TIM: You can use it to your advantage later, though. Because once you come up with the truth --

GLENN: The press would never report the truth. They would never report the truth. Glenn Beck caught buying 6-year-old boys. I never even thought of that.

PAT: Yeah, that could be bad.

GLENN: I just thought of the westerners. I heard Glenn, you need to do some things. And I thought somebody might recognize me, and it could queer what we were trying to do.

JEFFY: Are you taking three or four planes? I don't know if you've ever traveled with Glenn before, but he doesn't necessarily travel light.

GLENN: So here's the thing. So --

STU: You want to go there. Look, he's doing actual work there.

GLENN: I'm doing actual work too.

STU: You want to tell these stories and see -- I mean, because it's one thing to talk about this in the abstract. It's another thing to actually be there and --

JEFFY: No kidding.

GLENN: See your life going to Haiti? Yeah, changes your life to see this. And this something I really want to -- I really want to talk about. Let me ask you this question, and I ask this of everybody of the floor crew.

If we went back in time, and it was, you know, 1860, and we were fighting against slavery, it is 1840, and you find out about slavery, how many of us say we would definitely be an abolitionist, and we would stand against it?

STU: Absolutely.

GLENN: Absolutely. Raise your hand if that's right. Everybody in the room would say I'm an abolitionist. I think that's bull crap.

STU: Yeah, because of the pressures of the time.

GLENN: Pressures of the time. It's easy to overlook it. It's easy to say oh, you know. And people --

JEFFY: They're fine.

GLENN: I met somebody yesterday that was on the television show with me who sat in the front row, didn't know what the show was about, it was about this, and he said I can't thank you enough for doing this show today. I'm here. And every time you guys talk about this, I turned the TV channel because I don't want to see any of the pictures. I don't want to see any of it. And I'm forced now to sit here and watch it. I couldn't walk out from the studio. And couldn't ask you guys to talk about something else, so I've looked at it, and he said life changing. What am I doing? What am I doing?

And I think most of us wouldn't be doing anything because there are more slaves today than all of the slave trade from the beginning of the western slave trade to the end, all of those combined. It's only a fraction of those who are actually enslaved today.

STU: That's one of those stats that you hear and don't believe.

GLENN: Do you have the numbers? Do you have the actual numbers? Or anywhere close to the numbers?

TIM: Yeah, the estimates are around 30 million -- that's conservative.

STU: Yep.

TIM: 30 million people.

GLENN: Today.

TIM: Alive right now. Are in slavery.

STU: And there was something like 15 million in the -- slave trade from the 1500s to the 1880s.

GLENN: Right.

STU: That's incredible.

GLENN: That's spread out over hundreds of years, and we're double the number today.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: So what is it we're doing about it? OurRescue.org.

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GLENN: I'm leaving the studio and heading to Bangkok, and I will be back Monday afternoon, so I'll be back on the air Tuesday. 40 hours in the air, less than 30 hours on the ground and hope to bring back some stories, not of the vice but of the virtue. The things that are really happening, that are a bright light, and we are concentrating on this over the world because we're all connected to this. And in Bangkok, we are one of the main sources of the buyers. I mean, we are --

PAT: We as Americans; right?

GLENN: As Americans.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: It is -- I've only seen the stats. I have not experienced it myself. But looking at the stats, America and the west, we ship all of our dirtbags over there. They're all taking dirt bag vacations, and I don't know how you stop that. I mean, other than drying up the source. But we -- I can't even imagine what people in Bangkok think of American men because it's so grotesque what happens over there.

TIM: Well, you arrest enough of them, and you start creating a deterrent.

GLENN: Well, what was it? Columbia?

TIM: Yeah, in Columbia we did about three or four operations, big ones. Got the media, and we went back a month later after that and no one would sell kids. They wouldn't even talk about it, referencing all of these Americans keep getting arrested. And I was an undercover operator in Columbia, and we walked around the corner, and he was crying. He said Tim, this is worked. We shut it down, at least for a time. We have to keep hitting it. Keep hitting it. And empowering law enforcement until a deterrent is laid.

GLENN: I'm telling you, this changes lives, and this is something that all of us can agree on. I'm taking Samantha, she was supposed to come to Bangkok with me, Samantha B. She couldn't because of scheduling at the last minute. But she has said definitely I'm coming to Uganda, where we're going to find these devil worshipers and free these children from being human sacrifices. But this is something that we considering on and come together. This -- being an abolitionist will heal our wounds. It will heal our wounds and heal our country. I'm convinced of it. We just have to get the word out. And every time anybody gets involved at the smallest level, all of a sudden they want -- for instance, the guy who -- and I don't want to say anything about him. I don't want to say what agency he came from or anything else. But he gave up a gigantic gig.

TIM: Huge gig.

GLENN: Huge gig. And walked away from it and said "I think I have a skill to be able to help find the bad guys."

And he is -- he's one of the nicest, most prayerful guys you can imagine, and we were just in Haiti. Your team could not find the big kahuna, if you will. He said let me go, he took a plane, flew over, within what? Two hours?

TIM: Yep within two hours, he found the...

GLENN: Kingpin.

TIM: The kingpin of the whole thing. How he operates, he sent the police of the nightclub, we sent three teams in. We couldn't find it. This guy says let me try. He goes outside, says a prayer with his small team. And he walks in. And he's like it's like Finding Dory. Just keep swimming. And the lord literally guides him to the right person who then introduces him to the other person. He might have to go a mile down the street to the house with the red door and boom.

GLENN: He's most unlikely. You would meet this guy.

PAT: I didn't realize he completely walked away from his business?

TIM: Pretty much the whole thing.

GLENN: Okay. Enough.

PAT: Amazing.

GLENN: Yeah, he's an amazing man. He's going with us.

TIM: He'll be there.

GLENN: Yeah. One thing because we're getting ready to go on a plane, you've got to go as well. But I want to leave with this. I look at my life differently than I have. I believe we're living in a time in history where scholars like Tim who wrote about George Washington and the covenant, those scholars are going to be looking back at these times. And we're going to be studied either because we made it or because we failed. This is the moment of truth for the United States. We're either going to make it, or we're not. This is the pivot point. And scholars will study for generations what did the people do?

We're going to be remembered horribly on things like abortion. Horribly. It's only a matter of time before science just proves all of these lies that it's not really a baby. Completely untrue.

Slavery. To be so entertained with the things that were entertained and to argue about the things we're arguing about now, think of that and then think of 35 million slaves and children as young -- literally. You've pulled them out at 2 years old.

TIM: Absolutely.

GLENN: People having sex with a 2-year-old. What are we doing? People say every time they're involved a little bit, I want to go. I want to help. I want to do.

I don't. I really don't want to see the bad stuff. I don't want to go on a bus. I don't want to be a part of any of that. I want to be part of the good stuff, of the healing afterwards. But I really don't even have the skill to do anything there, but I have my resources that I can apply to this, my talent. There are people who have no talent to help in this regard. They may not have any money to help in this regard. But there are different ways and Tim has just posted them on the website. They're up now?

TIM: Yeah, they are.

GLENN: At our rescue. Different ways for you to get involved. As simple as I want to be on the prayer team. I want to pray when things will going down, I want to be on my knees and just praying for the teams.

So simple things like that all the way to working in Bangkok. We're looking -- is that job going to be posted up on the website? Or how do they find out?

TIM: We're going to start with this.

GLENN: Okay.

TIM: And see what happens.

GLENN: Okay. And, again, you need to be somebody who has worked in this industry for an agency.

TIM: Yes.

GLENN: Have some experience, hopefully computer experience.

TIM: And undercover operations.

GLENN: Undercover operations.

TIM: And then they would go to OurRescue.org and send an e-mail and say I heard it on Glenn Beck, here's what I want. Here's my rÈsumÈ. We'll be waiting.

GLENN: They do use retired Special Forces, but that's not -- you can't just call up and say, hey, I want to go on a mission. Here's what they really need. $5. Literally $5. Almost everyone that they have freed and are -- we not only take them and free them, the most important part is they're put into a safe house and sometimes they're kept until they're 18, until they are out of trouble, and they have schooling, they have a family, if you will, and they are deprogrammed from all of this stuff. $5 a month. You can go to OurRescue.org and just sign up and say I want to do $5. You can do more. But $5 has Abraham Lincoln's face on it.

It's one thing to say I want to give $500. Okay. Great. But why not give $10 a month for the next year? Give $5. Give 25. Give 100. Almost everyone has been rescued from donations less than $40; is that right.

TIM: Yeah, that's right.

GLENN: Most of everybody in this audience. I would imagine that this audience is the main funder for our rescue?

TIM: Oh, yeah. Yes.

GLENN: And I know this -- he won't say this, but I know this because I've talked to people around him that are trying to get this story out. This is such a hard thing to talk about that, you know, CNN, fox, while they'll cover things, they do not want to cover it because they know it's impossible. I'm not talking about their heart. I'm talking about ratings. They know this is a kiss of death to, hey, let's come on the morning show, and let's talk about sex slavery. Nobody wants to talk about it.

This is the moment of abolition. This is the moment where we can actually change the world and come together. I'm asking if you will go to OurRescue.org and donate and become a monthly supporter of rescue -- of our rescue and operation underground railroad. OurRescue.org. Tim, I will see you in a little while at the airplane.

TIM: Yes, we will.

GLENN: As we go to Bangkok.

TIM: Excellent.

GLENN: Thank you, sir.

TIM: Thank you.

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What the DESTRUCTION of New York means for the rest of us

New York City is likely to elect either Zohran Mamdani, a communist, or Andrew Cuomo, a failed governor, as mayor. Either way, it could destroy the city. So, how will this affect the rest of America? Former Trump economic advisor Stephen Moore joins Glenn to explain why he believes another mass migration out of New York is coming…

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Stephen Moore is with us now. Stephen, how much time do you have with me today?

STEPHEN: As much as you want, Glenn. Great to hear your voice. Great to be with you.

I disagree with you on something you just said.

GLENN: Okay. All right. Let's start there.

STEPHEN: You know, I do think -- look, New York has lost two and a half million people on net over the last ten years, to other states. Almost two and a half million people.

Which is, what? Four congressional seats right there.

So there's a mass. The big story in America, Glenn. Right now. And people should go on our website. Vote With Your Feet. And you can see, just click on any two states. You can click on New York. And you can click on Texas. And it will show you the -- where the moving vans are going to and from. And also, how much money they're taking with them because we know the income of these people as well.

So New York has lost two and a half million people. And, by the way, half of those people came from New York City. So if -- did they elect a socialist and they raised the taxes, again, New York City already has the highest taxes in the United States in North America. So if they raise them again, on, quote, the rich, they won't be there any longer. And I'll make another prediction to you, Glenn.

Are you in Texas? Where are you now?
(laughter)

GLENN: It's like a shell game.
I never really know. I just moved last week. I left my business in Texas.

Because I am never going to sever myself from Texas. I left my business in Texas. I promised my wife about 400 years ago, that some take we would live by the beach. So we moved to Florida. Business in Texas.

STEPHEN: You moved from no income tax state. To another no income tax state.

GLENN: Yeah. Are you crazy? I'm not doing anything else?

I would have dug a canal from the Atlantic, all the way to Dallas, if they forced me to move to a tax state. Anyway...

STEPHEN: So anyway, I'm in Dallas today.

GLENN: I know.

STEPHEN: Where are you in Florida?

GLENN: I'm not saying that on the air. But I will tell you that we're going to have dinner, Stephen. When you get back into dinner, Stephen, we'll have dinner.

STEPHEN: So, anyway, now I lost my train of concentration.

GLENN: So we were talking about the people that are moving and the tax base.

STEPHEN: Yeah. So basically, that's why I believe -- look, 1 million is probably a long shot.

But I think you're going to see a lot of wealth move out of New York. Now, here's the thing. You probably are aware of this. But about two months ago, the -- Texas has their own stock exchange. So we had the New York Stock Exchange for 150 years. Now you've got the Texas Stock Exchange, which I believe is in Dallas.

GLENN: I know.

STEPHEN: I believe, if they raise these taxes again, you pay 17 percent income tax in New York City.

GLENN: Jeez.

STEPHEN: Who is going to do that?

GLENN: My gosh.

STEPHEN: After 40 percent federal tax. So people will move. And I'll give you one -- one example.

Do you know Ken Griffin? He's the billionaire who created Citadel.

GLENN: Yeah.

STEPHEN: He's a big guy. Free market guy. And he was the single, biggest charitable giving in the city of Chicago. He gave to the Art Institute. He gave to the homeless shelters. He gave to the food kitchens and the museums and so on.

I mean, he was -- he was by far the biggest donor to all of the charities.

Well, finally, they kept raising, raising taxes in Chicago. And as you probably know, he moved out of Chicago. And he moved to Palm Beach.

Florida. And so then the interesting part of this story is, it put a 50 million-dollar hold in the Illinois budget.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

STEPHEN: And all the -- there's a funny story in the Chicago business. That all of a sudden, charities like, why isn't he donating to us anymore?

Why isn't he living there anymore?

So my point is, you chase the evil rich out of your city and your state. You pay a high price for that. By the way, he took several thousand, you know, jobs with him. So when you -- when you hear stoke the rich -- you know, the rich are -- as the old saying goes, "The rich aren't rich because they're stupid."

GLENN: Right.

So let me ask you this, Stephen. Because it used to be that New York was -- I mean, was the capital of the whole world.

STEPHEN: Yeah. Yeah. Financial capital.

GLENN: And because of the stock exchange. How real is the loss of the New York Stock Exchange. As something like the Texas stock exchange?

Is that something that really could actually happen?

STEPHEN: Yeah. It could happen. And look, the truth is that the New York Stock Exchange, even today, isn't anything like it was '60s, '70s, '80s, just like I mentioned I'm from Chicago. Remember the movie Trading Places, they're trading. It doesn't really exist anymore. Because that's all done by computers and electronically. So the trading floors aren't the same as they were. So Wall Street is just a shadow of what it once was. But what I'm saying is, today in America, in Dallas, Texas, there are more financial services jobs than there are in New York City.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

STEPHEN: That's amazing!

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

So --

STEPHEN: It's happening.

GLENN: So how long -- how much more, Stephen, how much more can New York take before it's -- it's no longer the financial capital?

How much more -- how many people have to move?

What has to happen, for it to really understand, wow. We made a huge mistake here?

STEPHEN: You would think they would have gotten that message already.

GLENN: No.

STEPHEN: And one of the things that you first did your show, many, many years ago. You were in New York.

So you're familiar with New York. And when was that? In the '90s when were you --

GLENN: In the 2000 -- 2000s. Mid-2000, you know, 2005. 2010.

STEPHEN: Yeah. Because I remember when Rudy -- this is an important point because I know you have a lot of listeners all over the country in New York and New Jersey. In the New York area.

So when Rudy Giuliani was elected mayor, New York was a mess. And you could see every week, because I was working at the Wall Street Journal at the time. Every week, you could see the improvement in the city. He got rid of the crime. He got rid of the graffiti. He got rid of the drug dealers. He got rid of -- he lowered the taxes. It wasn't complicated, Glenn. I mean, this wasn't rocket surgery.

GLENN: I know.

STEPHEN: This was obvious stuff.

And New York was New York again. And it was booming. And what's sad about this election that's happening today, is if Mamdani wins, they will reverse every single thing that Rudy did. And they will be back in the ditch. How stupid would people be to fall for that!

And part of the problem, Glenn, quite frankly, something you and I have talked about for years. Is our education system. You have 24-year-olds are voting, they think socialism works. Where? Show me. Where?

GLENN: Yeah. So what happens if he is elected? I mean, how -- what does it mean to people who have never gone to New York City?

Is -- is the loss of New York City to a Mamdani, is that going to affect everybody else's life?

STEPHEN: That's a good question. you're there in Florida.

Florida has gained. I really want people to go to this website.

Because it's amazing.

So Florida, under a great, great, great governor, Ron DeSantis. And you had a great governor, Rick Scott, before him. Florida, are you ready? Are you sitting down, Glenn? Florida has imported over the ten-year period, one trillion dollars of income from people coming in from other states. $1 trillion. It's the biggest mass migration ever in the history of this country.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

STEPHEN: And, by the way, people are not just living in New York. What you know other states they're leaving?

California.

GLENN: I think New York is moving to Florida, and California is moving to Texas.

STEPHEN: Moving to Texas, exactly.

And so you're just bleeding these blue states. That's why I don't get it.

So the thing that worries me. I was thinking about this, a lot over the past couple of days. If these states vote the wrong way, the only way that New York even survives, fiscally is with another massive federal bailout.

GLENN: Bailout. I know.

STEPHEN: How are you they going to pay their bills?

GLENN: They're not. They're not. And, you know, that's -- this is what I've said for a long time.

You know, the Constitution is not a suicide PAC. And California and New York and Chicago are going to eventually need giant bailouts.

And why should I pay for that know. I didn't live in those places. I didn't live there for a reason.

STEPHEN: Right.

GLENN: Right. That's taxation without representation.

I don't want to bail them out.

It was -- it's their fault, they did this. I've always wanted to live in California.

I never have, because it was insane. I knew that it was not going to work. So why do I have to pay for it?

STEPHEN: Exactly. Bingo. And incidentally, you're right. You can understand why people might leave New York for Florida. You know, in Florida, it's beautiful weather. In Florida, and rains a lot. And probably in New York. But how do you screw up California?

I mean, California is one of the probably most idyllic places in the planet. And people are living. This is the first time in 250 years people have been -- more people are leaving California than going to California. That's never happened before!

STU: That's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

STEPHEN: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. So can you spend some time with me --

STEPHEN: Can I make one more point about this?

GLENN: Yeah.

STEPHEN: The governor of California is now the lead candidate to run on the Democratic ticket for president: Gavin Newsom. The guy who is -- what's he going to run on? "I'll do for America what I did for California?"

GLENN: Yes.

And so many people will buy into it!

I mean, I don't know what's wrong. It's so frustrating, because you try to apply logic. And you're like, but none of this makes sense! None of it. What are you doing?

I would love to be able to sit down and have a conversation, but none of this makes sense.

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Dick Cheney's life should be a WARNING for us all

Former Vice President Dick Cheney has passed away at the age of 84. Glenn Beck reviews some of the biggest lessons from Cheney’s life that America should have learned, from the Gulf War and 9/11 to the PATRIOT Act and even gain-of-function research.

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GLENN: So let me start here with Dick Cheney. You know, there was a time not long ago, where America was not sure of itself.

Like we are now.

The Berlin Wall had fallen. We had gone through the '80s, which was a big boost to our confidence. But we had done so much damage to ourselves in the '60s and the '70s, it took more than one president in eight years. Vietnam still you haunted us. The headlines were all about peace dividends. You remember that?

Berlin wall comes down. Now, we should have peace dividends. Downsizing. Doubt. We didn't know. We were arrogant, and yet doubtful.

The idea of a military, powerful military had been almost embarrassing to say out loud since Vietnam. Reagan had rebuilt us, but it was peace through strength. We never went to war. Thank God, we never went to war. But our perceived strength did all our work for us.

But we didn't know. Because the last time we had tanks rolling anywhere, was Vietnam. And we thought that was a really bad thing.

Well, George H.W. Bush came into office. And he brought with him a man who had five deferments in Vietnam. He had never served in uniform. And he picks that guy. A guy from Wyoming. Not loud. Not flashy. To step into the role of Secretary of Defense. That was pretty controversial.

Wait a minute. What?

Hold it.

The guy didn't look like a warrior. He looked honestly like an accountant that balanced books after the battle. He was quiet, soft-spoken.

But he was firm. He was very clear on what he believed, and he believed perhaps more than -- more deeply than almost anybody else in Washington, that a nation that can't defend itself isn't going to remain free.

And so Reagan had really built the military up.

And Dick Cheney kind of finished that off, with George H.W. Bush.

By restoring the faith in our military.

Faith in America's strength was not the problem. America's strength was the protector of liberty.

I'm old enough to remember the -- the opening night of the Gulf War.

CNN was the only news network at the time.

And on my living room screen. I was living in Baltimore at the time, there was this eerie green grain of night vision footage. Which we really hadn't seen before.

And missile strikes through the darkness. We had never seen war like this before. Not only in night vision, but not live in our living rooms. We had never seen anything like it.

And I remember we all kind of held our breath. And we watched this new kind of war, unfold.

And it was swift, it was surgical. It was divisive.

There was no draft -- or decisive. There was no draft. There was no chaos. There was no quagmire. For the first time in decades, Americans felt pride without apology when it came to our military.

And we still wondered, is it going to be a quagmire?

But it wasn't. It was very clear. The mission was clear. We liberated Kuwait. That was the mission, and then we left. There was, you know, no oil fields. No spoils. No empire building. Just a message to the world, we could be proud of! This is what moral strength looks like. Free a nation, and go home.

Now, when George W. Bush ran for president, I don't think anybody was really comfortable handing the nuclear codes over to this guy who had been the governor of Texas and really kind of, yeah, let me tell you. Yeah. Right.

I mean, I wasn't comfortable. He was the guy we barely knew. He seemed like somebody who was more comfortable in the stands of a baseball stadium, than even, you know, in the main offices of the baseball stadium, that he owned. You know.

And everything changed in 2000, in the election, when he chose Dick Cheney as his running mate. The reaction was instant.

And I think it was the sound of America kind of exhaling a bit. He announced Dick Cheney and Colin Powell. They were the ones who brought us the Gulf War. It was quick, decisive, and over.

And America said, okay. Okay. Okay.

He's got Dick Cheney behind him.

All right. The adults are back. Then came that blue September morning.

And the skies were clear, and the markets were opened.

And in an instant, absolutely everything changed. The world stopped! The New York skyline was filled with smoke, and fear filled the air, all over the world. Not just here in America. No one knew what was going on. And our president was reading stories to children in Florida, and Dick Cheney became the acting president for a while, until we could get the president to safety!

He was the one that was rushed down to the emergency bunker in the White House. He took over for a while!

He was steady. Emotionless. And firm!

He didn't tremble. He didn't panic. And in those hours, those first few hours, America needed that!

But fear, once it's tasted, it's -- it's hard to let go. And so we started a war. And it just stretched on and on and on.

And the mission became blurry. Freedom became a slogan, instead of a strategy. And freedom started to take a different meaning here in America. We passed the Patriot Act. We built the Department of Homeland Security. None of those things had anything to do with freedom. We created the FISA court. And airport lines that never seemed to end. And for a while, we told ourselves, all of this is worth it, it's the price we have to pay in a dangerous, dangerous world.

But when you give more to one God, the other gods will demand payment later. And something in those days, a seed that was far more darker was planted. The anthrax attacks, most people don't even remember them now. They rattled the nation.

Cheney, who was always the realist and the adult in the room. Always the sentinel told the nation's stop scientists, we can't wait for the next attack. We have to study it. We have to anticipate it.

And so it was Dick Cheney that urged Dr. Anthony Fauci. To push research further, faster. Into what we now call gain of function. And I'm sure it was born out of good intent to protect us. As history often teaches us, good intent can be dangerous as a companion to unchecked power. Or as my grandmother always used to say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

And so bee beneath all of that calculation and control, there was a the different side to Dick Cheney. He was quiet. When his daughter Mary came out as gay, he didn't blink. Long before Clinton evolved, before Obama changed his mind, Cheney, the hawk, Darth Vader, the architect of war, said plainly, "My daughter deserves the same rights as everybody else." It was personal, it was brave, it was human, and as a politician, he stood almost entirely alone. Nobody gives him credit for that.

And he -- he belonged to a different time. A Cold War man in a post modern world. A deep believer in the chain of command. In America's dominance. In doing what has to be done, even if the world didn't approve!

He died last night. He had five heart attacks in his life. I think it was 2012, he had a heart transplant, doctor said it would give him another decade of life.

13 years later. Dick Cheney's life offers both a chance to give medals and lessons. The virtue of strength and the peril of excess. And he should have learned from the first Gulf War. He was the iron for many years in America's spine. After decades of doubt. But he was also a reminder that iron rusts, if it is left unexamined.

We needed his resolve when the towers fell. And raps, in the years that follow, we needed more in his -- more of his restraint from 1991, in the years that followed that. But we didn't get that.

So he leaves behind a really complicated legacy. Which I think is appropriate today, as I try to talk to you today about, what does it mean to be a conservative?

On all fronts. What does it mean?

Dick Cheney was a conservative for a man of his time. But he lost one of the main principles, and that is conservatives believe in the rule of law and the Constitution. He's a patriot, yes. But he's also a warning to us. He helped America find its courage. But he also taught us how easily courage can drift into control.

And he left us some lessons that we should learn. The Patriot Act. That has given our government tools to spy on its own citizens. On Capitol Hill, nobody is talking about this. But this is the biggest scandal probably in American intelligence and American corruption of all time.

The Patriot Act made all of it possible. The government -- government-wide scandal of a president spying on its opponent party, including senators and congressmen. And donors. And average citizens.

That's still being revealed. Nobody is talking about it. But that came from the patriot ability. That came him the power to do it. The FISA court as we know in a completely other scandal. The FISA courts were lied to. The FBI physically changed documents to falsify testimony to secure wire taps that they said they needed, that we now know were unwarranted and illegal. What else should we learn today? We paid a heavy price for never-ending wars in blood, in treasure, and faith.

We failed to learn the right lessons from the Gulf War. Define the mission narrowly. Execute it efficiently. And then get the hell out of there, and come home!

Enhanced interrogation. That's Dick Cheney. We called torture "enhanced interrogation." And we still refuse as a people, to have this debate. We either torture or we do not. And it's the people that should make the decision.

No one in the world looks to a nation who says one thing, but then farms out the torture to another dictator or authoritarian someplace else.

They don't look at that and go, you know what. There's a great nation.

We should also learn the lesson.

I mean, think of what we just learned. Enhanced interrogation. It's torture.

You believe so change the name. You can't change the meaning of words. Okay?

Enhanced interrogation is still torture. No matter what you do to a man surgically.

He's still a man. You can't just say, oh, no. That's a woman. Changing the words, does not change reality.

And the heaviest lesson, we have not learned a bit from is gain of function. It may be illegal, but it is still happening. Because there are those in the government, on both sides of the aisle, that think it's important.

It is not.

It has killed hills. And it's changed our world.

In that crisis, we saw blue states give new dictatorial powers that still haven't been corrected.

So Dick Cheney, believe it or not, I actually liked Dick Cheney, but I've changed. The times have changed, and I would like to salute his service to a nation for what he did, and he actually believed he was doing the right thing. And he did do the right thing, in his day. But things have changed. And his passing marks not just the end of his life, but close of that age.

An age of secrecy and steel and certainty. Honor Dick Cheney's service today. But can we learn from the mistakes? And can we remember one thing?

The strength of a nation is not measured just by its power to strike. But its wisdom to stop!

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Why Zohran Mamdani’s RADICALISM makes Cuomo’s Corruption Look Tame

New York City is on the brink and Glenn Beck says the choice between Andrew Cuomo and Zohran Mamdani isn’t about who’s good for the city, but who’s less destructive. Glenn and Stu Burguiere break down why Cuomo’s notorious corruption may actually look mild compared to Mamdani’s open socialism. From “communist grocery stores” to Obama’s fading influence, Beck exposes how the Democratic Party is spiraling into radicalism and why every Republican should be paying attention.

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STU: There was one poll that kind of showed up and was somewhat positive for Cuomo, if you think Cuomo being mayor of a major city is a positive in any way.

GLENN: It doesn't matter.

STU: Honestly, I don't even know. I get why people think that Mamdani will be worse. He probably will be worse.

But I don't think it's a sure thing. I honestly, don't even think it's a sure thing. These people forget how bad Andrew Comey is.

I think there's this coping mechanism that's going on.

GLENN: Does he want communist grocery stores?

STU: He probably doesn't want -- at least, outwardly saying he wants communist grocery stores. I guess if that's your line as to how --

GLENN: Does he believe -- well, it's not my line.

Does he believe that the 34,000 cops or less.

That's the lowest it's ever been.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: 34,000 cops or less. Because he says, it's really not about a number.

Is it -- does Cuomo believe in fewer cops on the street?

STU: It doesn't matter. He's terrible on that issue. And has been terrible on that issue the entire time.

It's possible. It's possible. And this is the one thing you get from Cuomo.

This is the upside case if you're in New York, and you really want Cuomo to win.

He's so incredibly corrupt. Some of his corruption will align with good policy. That is the only thing you get out of Andrew Cuomo. He is no better than Mamdani on most of these issues. But, for example, will have a guy who is in some form of corruption, will be helping him out, that will also help out the business sector. Right?

There's things like that, that align with -- with something that you might say is helpful to New York City.

GLENN: But see, this is -- this is why Mamdani is winning. Mamdani is -- is winning right now, I believe because it's not about the Islamic thing, it's not about the -- you know, socialist thing.

That's probably half of his support.

Maybe -- maybe three-quarters. But that's not what pushes him over the top.

What pushes him over the top is the -- the other Democrat.

They're not going to vote for a Republican.

The other Democrat is just so horrible, and -- and so traditional corrupt, that they're tired of that. They're tired of the corrupt democratic politician.

They're tired of it. They're not tired of Democrats. They're tired of the cronyism and all of that.

And so here comes a fresh face, nobody really knows who he is.

I mean, it is the Obama thing. Where, you know, hope and change.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: You know, they -- they said that Obama -- do we have that clip?

They were saying that -- that Obama is very much, you know, the new -- or, the old school Mamdani.

No!

No. He's really not. And Obama pledged his support from Mamdani. And I would think that Mamdani would be like, no. Thank you. No, thank you.

Not because they don't agree on things, but because I think that Mamdani's voters will look at Obama and say, "You had your turn, buddy. You believe in the same things, the communist grocery stores. You know, the no cops thing. You know, hate Israel. You believe all of those things. You believe -- but you didn't do any of them."

Now, Obama looks at it and says, "Yes, but I moved the ball forward. That's as far as I could go. Progress. You know, progressive. That's as far as I could go."

But he's not accepted by the real, you know, zealots.

The real changers of the universe.
He was too progressive.

Where now, it's time for the real -- the hard-liners to come in. And that's what I think Mamdani is.

And I think Barack Obama is viewed by the Mamdani supporters, the real Mamdani supporters, as a real sellout. Would you agree with that, or not?

STU: Some. I think that's true.

I think generally speaking, Democrats are not like that.

I think generally speaking, tells me like Obama.

GLENN: I'm not talking about Democrats.

STU: You're talking about Mamdani-type supporters. Like real Mamdani-ites. Yeah, those people do see.

They saw -- they saw the result of 2016 as a part result of not going far enough.

They were -- they complained about Joe Biden for not going far enough.

Of course, that's what they want. And that -- that's the big thing, Glenn. Really? The difference when you look at this election in New York, is if Mamdani gets elected. You go one of two ways. We've seen this happen before.

He could be the communist we know he is in his heart. Right?

He could do all of these things that he's promising. And really descry up the city to no end.

Probably the best-case scenario for him, is he gets in there. He gets thwarted at times, bit corrupt Democrats that are around him, that can stop him.

He does is not have unlimited power as the mayor.

At least not yet.

We saw this with Bill de Blasio. Bill de Blasio was just as dedicated and communist as Zohran Mamdani is.

And his rein as mayor was really bad. It did not destroy the country. It was really bad for the city. It was a really bad time for the city. And they paid a lot for the things that he did. And this is a guy who went on vacation to the Soviet Union.

Right? This is not a guy who was not deck dedicated to the cause.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Mamdani, my suspicion on Mamdani is he will go even farther than de Blasio did. Because he's, you know, young and aspirational. Right?

I think de Blasio had been knocked down for a while, and felt he had to moderate some of those views to get elected. It's not really what the case is here, with Mamdani. I would be very terrified of him, if I were in the city. I would probably begrudgingly be hoping that Cuomo won this.

Because you would at least have an idea of what you're getting.

GLENN: Yeah. The devil you know.

STU: He's going to be terrible. He will be incredibly corrupt.

He will probably commit two to three crimes a day.

That is probably -- possibly much better than what you'll get out of Mamdani. You know, and be whatever reason, this city has moved now to a place where they won't even consider a guy who will do a good job. That's not even part of their consideration.

They're not even looking at Curtis Sliwa, who would actually be fine as mayor. And do a good job for the city.

GLENN: No. I find it interesting.

How do you think Mamdani is going to internally take the suggestion that, hey. I would love to be part of your counsel. I would love to be a sounding board for you.

I mean, he might like it, outwardly. But I don't think that went with his real supporters and his real team that, you know, want the communist grocery stores and everything.

I can't imagine that went over well.

STU: Yeah. I think --

GLENN: Like, making fun of it kind of bad, internally, I think.

STU: Yeah. Behind the closed doors. Yes. I think there's two ways to look at it. And I think probably people in his inner orbit looked at it both ways. Which is, one, you believe this guy.

You know, he wasn't early with us.

GLENN: I know. He let us down as president. He didn't go far enough. This is pathetic. And now he's trying to get into our good graces.

I do think a smarter analysis of this however, on their side is if we can get them to embrace us. It moves us to the mainstream of the party.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: You know, it's funny. I think both Mamdani and the entire Republican Party are going to be rooting for Mamdani to be the face of the democratic party.

That's going to happen real soon. The Democrats don't want that. The Chuck Schumer of the world don't want that. But every Republican should be doing everything they can, to make sure that people understand the future of the democratic party is Mamdani.

GLENN: It's interesting to me that you would say, because I think you're right. That he would say, hey. This would mainstream us a little bit more. Make us look a little bit more acceptable for the party.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Although, I think -- I think Barack Obama's legacy is not as solid as it would have been. I think he's going to age like Bill Clinton aged. Where Bill Clinton was popular for a while. And then as we got farther and farther away from it, we're like, that guy was corrupt and really bad. He's really not good. I can't believe people still like him.

And not really in with the Democratic Party. And I think -- I think Barack Obama, because the Democratic Party is becoming so radical, I think he's going to even be worse. Because he's going to look like a total sellout. A guy who at least his wife believed it. And he said that he believed it. But he never really got down and did it.

And they will not accept the, hey, he moved the ball as far as he could. They won't accept that.

And I think they will look at him, at least internally, just like we would look at George W. Bush coming in, you know -- you know, in late 2024.

And saying, you know what, I would love to be an adviser for Donald Trump.

You would be like, I don't think.

I don't think.

And there might be some that would argue. Hey. Bring him in.

Just bring him in. Let's go ahead. It will help bring the rest of the party in.

And it will widen the tent. But don't listen to him.

For the love of Pete. Don't listen to him.

And the hard-core Trump supporters, I would have -- would be like, don't. Don't. Don't.

Don't bring him in.

And I just have that feeling, that that's what's coming.

But we'll see.

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China, ICE, and the shutdown: Everything Trump's "60 Minutes" interview revealed

President Trump gave a master class on negotiation in his recent “60 Minutes” interview with Norah O’Donnell. Glenn and Stu review Trump’s best comments on China and Taiwan, ICE raids, and the government shutdown.

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VOICE: I know you have said that Xi Jinping wouldn't dare move militarily on Taiwan while you're in office. But what if he does?
Would you order US forces to defend Taiwan?

DONALD: You'll find out if it happens. And he understands the answer to that.
VOICE: Why not say it?
DONALD: This never even came up yesterday.

STU: Why not say it? I don't know. Tough question!

DONALD: He never brought it up, because he understands it, and he understands it very well.

VOICE: Do you mind when I ask, he understands, why not communicate that publicly to the rest of us? What does he understand?

DONALD: I can't give away my secrets. I don't want to be one of these guys that tells you exactly what is going to happen, if something happens. The other side knows, but I'm not somebody that tells you everything, because you're asking me a question. But they understand what's going to happen, and he has openly said it, and his people have openly said it. He said, we will never do anything, while President Trump is president. Because they know the consequences.

GLENN: And they do.

Now, what's her name? Norah McDonald?

Or that Norah O'Donnell. I can't remember.

STU: It's Norah O'Donnell.

GLENN: One is a comedian, and one claims to be a journalist. I don't know remember the difference. But, you know, here she is. Why won't you just say it? I don't know!

Strategery!

I mean, why wouldn't you just say it?

Presidents never say that. They never say that. Can you imagine?

What a stupid question that is.

And if you think -- go ahead.

STU: I was going to say, you know, I think Trump sometimes does say stuff like that. Right? Like he does -- for example, with North Korea. Right?

He was like, hey. We're going to blow you up. And the fires of hell are going to rain down upon you.

GLENN: Because North Korea is not China.

STU: Right. He's making decisions based on strategy with different countries. And there's different decisions to make with each nation.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: And when you look at something like this.

What he's trying to, I think communicate is he has communicated to China that they will be involved.

But he does not want to escalate it publicly.

And honestly, all of that being said, I don't know what his actual answer is. My suspicion is, we won't be involved if that happens. Honestly, like I know we promised it. But my suspicion is, if China actually goes in there, there's a good chance, we are -- we come up a reason to not be involved in it.

GLENN: We can't. We can't.

We can't be involved in that.

We will be involved in covert ways.

My guess is, we blow up all those chip factories. That's my guess. And my guess is, we have given the ability to Taiwan to do that. Long ago. I don't know.

But that's what -- that's what I would do. Because we don't have -- we cannot -- we cannot support a supply line, that far away. We just tonight. We're not capable of it.

So we don't have the supply lines. We couldn't get things there, fast enough. And they're going to overwhelm with drones. That's what -- this is going to be the fastest war ever. If they go into Taiwan. It will be over, by the time we ever get a ship or an airplane there. It will be over. They will just overwhelm the island with swarms of drones, period. So here's what the president is actually doing.

He announced a deal on economic and trade relations with China.

So here's what he -- here's the Chinese actions. You ready?

Suspend new rare earth export controls. Issue general license for exports of rare earth. Listen to what he got: Take significant measures to end the flow of fentanyl to the US. Suspend all retaliatory tariffs since March 4th. Suspend all retaliatory nontariff measures since March 4th. Purchase at least 12 million metric tons of US soybeans, and we lowered our tariffs by ten points and extended the expiration of Section 301 tariff exclusions until November 2026. Do you see what we've got? See what we gave up?

Let me just say that again. Do you see what we got and what they gave up?

The president -- it's genius how he got us here. He didn't just engage with China directly. He embarked on a massive, massive campaign, securing the rare earth minerals in all of their allies. Multiple countries.

He built an -- an alternate system that cuts China out, entirely.

Then went after Venezuela, Russia, and Iran. All the three of their major allies.

This was the equivalent of the American president, putting his foot down on the neck of China and saying, you want up?

You want up?

And China blinked because at this point, they had no choice.

China is not used to being handled like this. And he just handled them.

This is a good win for America!

So when the president is has done negotiation. Why would he go on 60 Minutes?

And insult them even more.

Why would he go and say, what you know we'll do?

We'll vaporize Beijing. And I have on good authority, that's exactly what the president said. You know, you want to do that, and I'll make Beijing disappear.

And Xi laughed at first. And what? What?

The president didn't laugh and blink. And Xi left going, he might just do it!

That's how you negotiate. That's how get all of the rare earth minerals. That's how you get this giant concession with from China. The guy -- I have to tell you, I mean, we've known this forever. How long has everyone on the planet, you know, now, of course, the left won't say it. You know, the Democrats won't say it. But everybody has always said, I wish we just had a good negotiator on our side. Wouldn't it be nice if we had somebody that looked at the country like a business. And could just run it like a business. And knew how to negotiate?

We have the best negotiator, I think we've ever had.

I can't think of anybody who is better than that.

Here's what he said, yesterday on 60 Minutes on the ICE raids. Cut ten.

VOICE: More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ICE tackling a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood. And the smashing of car windows. Have some of these raise gone too far?

DONALD: No. I don't think they've gone far enough. Because we've been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges, that were put in by Biden and by Obama.

VOICE: You're okay with those tactics?

DONALD: Yeah, because you have to get those people out. You have to look at the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown out of their countries because they were criminal.

GLENN: What do you think of that, Stu?

STU: Again, he's not going to back down from that policy, not a surprise.

GLENN: Uh-uh.

STU: Criminals, you know -- it is such a popular issue to get rid of people who are violent criminals in this country.

That he's going to lock into that, no matter what the tactics look like. As long as they don't look cruel to people who are innocent.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Right? That's the type of stuff he would get beat up.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: These are people here illegally.

And it's not -- like, you know. He's beating a mom to -- these people are beating moms to death in the streets. Of course, it's going to be something different.

What we're seeing is, what? They're getting arrested on their way to work?

I don't think that's going to be controversial at all to the American people.

GLENN: Seventy percent of the American people agree with the ICE raids.

Seventy percent. No matter what the mainstream media makes it look. That's the latest poll. Have you read another poll? Stu, you're looking at me --

STU: I have seen more negative polling on the issue, generally.

It is -- I think --

GLENN: I just saw one yesterday or today, 70 percent.

STU: I'll have to --

GLENN: Is it in the show prep today?

STU: I did see that poll somewhere.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I wouldn't say -- his border policy is among his most popular policy. There have been some more negative reactions. Not on the right. But on the left. And the -- and the -- and independent voters, who are concerned about these tactics generally.

Now, of course, what they've received about this is basically, this is the gestapo. So you would understand, that their analysis of what they're hearing in the media, is that it's a negative.

I think though, when you look at these individual cases. People wind up realizing, okay. That's not what's actually going on.

You know, I do think that generally speaking, this is a positive issue from him.

Certainly, it's one of the issues that he cares about the most. And he's not going to back off of it. I think there's this idea that the media can try to corner him. And he will try to back down. When does this occur?

This is not -- the only time Trump has ever really backed down on anything is when, occasionally you'll get a situation where his base says no. We can remember cases of this, with the Second Amendment. He said something to the effect of, well, we'll go in there. We'll take the guns first, and then we'll have a trial. His base said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not the way it should work.

And he backed off of that. That does sort of happen occasionally. And you'll see occasionally, when it comes to economic consequences.

This is the -- you could argue, that, you know, he backs off on some of those stuff, when he sees the market crash or some of that sort. Really, with stuff like this. There's no sign of him backing down. He believes the policy is correct.

He believes these people should leave. And I think, at this point, most people who are border hawks, if they have any complaint about what's going on at the border, it's more than at that it's not enough. It's not been widespread enough.

It has been a situation where it's been focused on. You know, we have a lot of attention on the Maryland father who went to El Salvador.

When I think the issue is larger than a few of these cases. So that is probably the only complaint you would have from people who agree with him.

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So let me take on now what happened with the shutdown. Here's cut 11. Trump on 60 Minutes last night.

VOICE: And the shutdown.

DONALD: Well, what we're doing is we keep voting. The Republicans are voting almost unanimously to end it. And the Democrats keep voting against any -- you know, they've never had this.

This has happened like 18 times before. The Democrats always voted for an extension.

Always saying, give us an extension. We'll work it out. They've lost their way. They've become crazed lunatics. And all they have to do, nor a,is say, let's vote!

VOICE: Senate Democrats say, they will vote to reopen the government if Republicans agree to extend subsidies for over 20 million Americans who use Obamacare for their health insurance.

DONALD: Obamacare is terrible.

It's bad health care at far too high a price.

We should fix that! We should fix it. And we can fix it with the Democrats. All they have to do is let the country open, and we will fix it. We have to let the country open, and I will sit down with the Democrats, and we'll fix it. But they have to let the country -- and you know what they have to do? All they have to do is raise five hands. We don't need all of them.

GLENN: Notice, I mean, he is pissed about this.

He wants to fix this.

He wants -- I mean, he does not like Obamacare. But he also is probably -- leans more. See if you agree with this, Stu.

Leans more towards the Democrat kind of fixing of health care than where I would lean. I would lean, shut it all off. Shut it all off. Get all of the government regulation out of insurance and everything else.

Let all of this stuff just be a free market again. And I think you would fix a lot of this.

I don't think that's Donald Trump's point of view. Do you?

STU: No. I don't think so.

Again, we talked about how the border say real passion issue for him. I don't think the health care thing is.

I just don't think that's central to his -- you know, his belief structure long-term.

You saw what happened. He tried to -- he did try, I think, at the beginning to get rid of Obamacare. I think there was a legitimate effort made. It did not work.

DONALD: Yeah. I don't think the Republicans did.

STU: Certainly, many did. Many did. Obviously, it failed. John McCain, famously.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

STU: Although, that's a little bit blown out of proportion, as the moment where it failed. If it had actually failed before that, regardless, it was something that he promised voters that he would try to do. It didn't work. And I think he's moved on from those sorts of real solutions, that I wouldn't favor. That you would favor.

GLENN: Right. Let me play one more. Cut 12, please.

VOICE: Government shutdowns in the past. And you did it by -- members of Congress, into the White House.

DONALD: I'm not going to do it by extortion. I'm not going to do it by being extorted by the Democrats who have lost their way. There's something wrong with these people.

VOICE: So then what happens on November 5th, when the troops --

DONALD: Schumer is a basket case, and he has nothing to lose. He's become -- I just like Japan. He's become a kamikaze pilot.

VOICE: Sounds like it's not going to get solved the shutdown.

DONALD: It's going to get solved. Oh, it will get solved.

VOICE: How?

DONALD: We'll get it solved. Eventually, they will have to vote.

GLENN: How?

Because I'm on the completely reasonable side, and you seem completely unreasonable.

How? How is this ever going to stop?

Because you won't give the Democrats what they want.

She is so -- she's so mainstream old-fashioned media. Just sickening.

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