GLENN

Will the Real Pat Gray Please Step Forward? (The One Who DOESN'T Like Movie Musicals)

Hell hath done froze over. Pat Gray, beloved co-host of The Glenn Beck Program and hardened 70s and 80s music buff, has gone soft.

"I've known Pat since 1989. Never saw this coming," Glenn said Tuesday on radio.

What happened that shocked Glenn so much?

"I said I liked La La Land," Pat admitted.

Gulp. Glenn was right about everything. There will be a time when nothing makes sense, when up is down and left is right. God help us.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: I've known Pat since 1989. Never saw this coming. Right before we went on the air, he said...

 

Go ahead, Pat.

 

PAT: I forget what I said.

 

GLENN: Oh, no. No, no. No, it's seared in all of our memories.

 

PAT: I said I liked La La Land.

 

GLENN: What the hell has happened?

 

PAT: We went. It's going on two weeks ago because I got sick after. We haven't talked about it yet.

 

GLENN: Yeah.

 

JEFFY: "You know, we never talked about that musical we saw, Glenn."

 

GLENN: That's what he said. That's what he said beforehand. "You know, we haven't talked about that musical we went to see." And I'm like, musical that we went to see? What are you talking about?

 

PAT: Well, we didn't go alone. It wasn't like -- we weren't holding hands as dates. We actually had our wives with us.

 

But it -- I thought it was a really good movie. I thought that was a --

 

GLENN: What has happened?

 

PAT: I liked it.

 

GLENN: You leave for two days. You come back. Is this the same Pat?

 

STU: I'm in another dimension. I've entered another world. Because my wife saw it, and she did not really like it.

 

PAT: Really? Why?

 

STU: I don't know. I mean -- honestly, once I heard the word "musical," I stopped listening to conversations about it. But I am shocked -- because I'm not surprised to hear Glenn likes it.

JEFFY: Right, of course.

 

 

STU: Obviously, right up his alley. Makes perfect sense.

 

JEFFY: Yes, it sure does.

 

STU: But Pat Gray, what has occurred?

 

PAT: I'm a well-rounded individual.

 

GLENN: No, you're not.

 

PAT: I have very good tastes.

 

GLENN: No. No, you do not. No, you do not.

 

He was in here yesterday while you were gone, Stu, and he was ranting off the air, something about Boston and how they went wrong in like the 1970s.

 

STU: Every time -- because we'll go out to lunch sometimes after the show, and every single time I get into his car, the first thing that happens is Boston blaring through the speakers, until he awkwardly like reaches over and turns it down really fast because he turns the car off with Boston at full --

 

PAT: It may not be Boston. It could be Foreigner. Or Styx.

 

STU: It could be Foreigner.

 

PAT: You know.

 

GLENN: Right. Or strangely now, La La Land.

 

PAT: The soundtrack, yes. The soundtrack of La La Land.

 

I thought it was enjoyable. It wasn't -- you know, it wasn't so musical, it was an opera.

 

GLENN: Well, those are different. But I'm going to give that to you. I know what you mean.

 

PAT: Because like, what was it? Was it Les Mis, the movie that was just non-stop singing? It was like, okay. I've had enough. I've had enough.

 

GLENN: Yes. That's what Les Mis is.

 

PAT: I know, right. And I've had enough, by about five minutes in it.

 

But this was enjoyable, except they didn't want -- well, actually I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but the ending is sad.

 

GLENN: I think the ending is beautiful. I think the ending is great. I think it's perfect.

 

JEFFY: Yeah, Glenn has already blown that I think on the show.

 

GLENN: No, I don't think I have.

 

PAT: I don't remember him blowing that.

 

GLENN: What, that she gets can- -- oh, no. Now I've said it. She gets canned goods.

 

So my daughter went to see Manchester By The Sea.

 

STU: That's really sad too.

 

PAT: What is that anyway?

 

GLENN: I don't know.

 

And she said, "Dad, have you seen Manchester -- I said, "No." And she said, "Oh, my gosh." And she tears up, "You have to see it." And I said, "You just gave it the kiss of death. I am not going to see it." And she's like, "No, Dad, you have to. It's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. You will just love it." And I said, "It's sad, isn't it?"

 

And she said, tears welling up, "Yes. It's really sad. I cry every time I think about it. I stood outside of the theater, and I cried for ten minutes."

 

PAT: Ringing endorsement for a movie.

 

GLENN: And I'm like, "Why would I go? Why would I go?"

 

STU: Yeah. I don't want that anymore in my life anymore than it is.

 

GLENN: I know. Everything in my life is like that. I want to go and escape.

 

STU: Right.

 

What was that movie a few years ago? Marley & Me? Do you remember that stupid movie?

 

JEFFY: Yes. Oh, my gosh.

 

PAT: With the dog?

 

STU: And I remember walking out of the theater, like why did I do that to myself? It was like the saddest --

 

GLENN: Especially for like a dog movie.

 

PAT: I know.

 

STU: Exactly.

 

GLENN: That is just saying to you: Look, guys, we got around the table. We said, how can we play on people's emotions? Somebody said, let's do a cat movie. Somebody said, no. Let's kill a dog.

 

STU: What about a hamster? The dog won.

 

GLENN: The dog won. And all we've done is just built a script around playing on your emotions.

 

STU: Right. I mean, you know, if you're going to go see Schindler's List. Okay. You know it's going to be sad, but there's a real reason to see it. You want to see the history and all that other stuff.

 

JEFFY: There's some uplifting moments.

 

GLENN: In Schindler's List? I don't recall those.

 

STU: Yeah, no.

 

JEFFY: Really?

 

GLENN: Yeah. Even when he's on the railroad tracks, he's bummed. He's like, "I could have done more." I mean, it's still bad.

 

STU: No, it's not -- not a lot. Maybe in the previews, you're remembering. I don't know.

 

GLENN: Right. I think you might be thinking Life Is Beautiful, where you realize, "No, not so much."

 

STU: We've lied to you in the title of this movie.

 

GLENN: Life is not beautiful. It's a concentration camp.

 

STU: Right.

 

PAT: Has anybody seen legacy -- or 24 Legacy yet?

 

STU: I have DVRed it. I haven't seen it yet.

 

GLENN: I have not. Is it good?

 

PAT: It's pretty compelling just like --

 

STU: Well, we watched -- we were kind of thinking like, "Oh, they're making another one without Kiefer Sutherland. It sounds stupid."

 

PAT: Yeah, it did.

 

STU: And then one day on Pat & Stu, we played the trailer for it.

 

PAT: It looked awesome.

 

STU: And in a minute and a half, we were back into it.

 

PAT: Yeah. Definitely. I will tell you this, there might be a problem at CTU. There might be a problem in the government.

 

STU: It looks pretty good.

 

No.

 

GLENN: No! No!

 

PAT: Yeah. And there might be a problem with some American traitors.

 

GLENN: Oh, gee, I wonder if they're big oil companies. They're definitely not Islamic. That was the problem -- you just turned me off, I'm not interested.

 

PAT: Well, after eight seasons of that, with the original, I was pretty done with that. But, hey, I must be ready for it again.

 

GLENN: That went eight seasons?

 

PAT: I think more than that, didn't it?

 

STU: Seven or eight.

 

GLENN: No. Really? Wow.

 

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. I think the --

 

GLENN: We made it all the way through.

 

PAT: I didn't, but many did. I made it to season six.

 

GLENN: Have you guys -- has anybody seen the new pope -- or, The Young Pope?

 

PAT: No, is that the --

 

JEFFY: The Young Pope.

 

PAT: I have not.

 

GLENN: It's on HBO. I started watching it the other day. And I'm like, oh, I don't like this at all. Because it seems like this young pope is -- you immediately think he's really a bad guy, like really, really a bad guy. And the more you watch it, the more you think, "Now, wait a minute, maybe he's the really, really good guy, who is taking down all of the trappings and the -- you know -- it's really weird."

 

PAT: Is it a modern day setting?

 

GLENN: Yeah, yeah, modern day setting. Jude Law. And if you're a Catholic, you can't watch it because it will just set your hair on fire. It's the typical --

 

STU: It's not friendly to Catholicism?

 

GLENN: No. It's the typical not friendly to Catholicism thing. But if you're not Catholic, you don't have that automatic barrier against -- but you're still like, "I'm not sure exactly what's happening."

 

So it's one of those things -- I'm like three episodes into it, and I'm like -- I'm starting to get invested in this. And if it turns out that he's really -- all this is, is a Catholic bash, I'm really going to be more pissed than even the Catholics.

(chuckling)

 

JEFFY: It might be.

 

GLENN: And it might be.

 

PAT: Yeah. That's what it usually is.

 

GLENN: I know. This is just so bizarre. It's just so strange that I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

 

PAT: And you said it's HBO?

 

GLENN: HBO. And so, I mean, it's got all the earmarks of let's just bash the church or bash religious people.

 

PAT: It sure does. Does it center around the priest scandal?

 

GLENN: No, it's got part of it in there. But he keeps pushing it off. And that's why you're like, "Wait a minute. Why does he keep pushing the priest scandal off?" And I kind of get the feeling that he's hunting for bigger fish.

 

He'll say things that are crazy. Remember the Last Temptation of Christ?

 

STU: Yeah.

 

GLENN: And it set everybody's hair on fire because the last temptation happened on the cross. This was the idea that the last temptation happened on the cross. And, you know, Jesus had children and a normal life. But that was just what Satan was showing him.

 

Satan was showing him, "Hey, you could have all this." And in the end, all that happened -- you know, the whole movie happened in just a fraction of a second on the cross. And that was what Satan was showing him. Hey, right now, you can -- you can end this, and you can have all of that. And his last temptation, Jesus said no.

 

STU: That was really controversial at the time, yeah?

 

GLENN: Yeah, and it shouldn't have been. Because the point is, that's what Satan showed him, and Jesus said no.

 

And I think it might be going in that direction, that this guy is saying things and doing things that look really bad on the outset, but it's only because he's rooting out real bad stuff.

 

PAT: HBO. Jude Law.

 

GLENN: Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know.

 

STU: Oh, it will come around.

 

PAT: I'm sure it's going to be fine. It's going to be good for the Catholic church.

 

GLENN: No. Or faith in general. Faith in general.

 

PAT: Yes.

 

GLENN: So I've been having -- I've been having a problem I want to talk to you about.

 

I'm losing touch with people more and more every day.

 

STU: We started a segment with La La Land. Of course, you're losing touch with people.

 

GLENN: I know. I know. And that was only -- that was only deflection. I was only trying to deflect some of the stuff I wanted to talk about.

 

I'm not understanding the self-imposed ignorance of people right now.

 

For instance, so somebody -- I tweeted -- somebody said, "Oh, Glenn Beck, grow a spine. You know, we have to defeat evil." And I said, "My spine is getting stronger and stronger every day. You don't defeat evil with evil or hate with hate. Only light and love defeat hatred, evil, and error."

 

Now, what does that mean to you, Stu? Do we ever pick up a gun against Hitler?

 

STU: I'm going to say yes. It's funny, I -- you know, what? ISIS. You're going to talk about the worst groups on earth -- is love the key? Obviously, there is an element of that long-term, which is really more on their side in that they need to find it. But, I mean, you wrote a book called It Is About Islam. This is not -- this is not something that you've taken lightly over the years.

 

GLENN: So listen to some of the comments: Okay, chubby.

 

STU: Well, that's true.

(laughter)

GLENN: And I wrote back, I said, "Hey, that's easy. I get it. I get it. My weight."

 

Listen to this one: Try waving that Christmas Sweater at the Berkeley mob and tell us how it goes for you.

 

STU: Oh, so they remember The Christmas Sweater book, but not the much more recent It Is About Islam book or Liars?

 

GLENN: But not even that. They know The Christmas Sweater, so they know that's about redemption. They know that's the Christmas Story. That's obviously a listener. That you know the Christmas Sweater, and you don't understand or you're mocking the meaning of the Christmas sweater behind that. I mean, it was stunning to me.

 

Glenn, you've officially lost your F-ing mind.

 

That's from a guy who has the blue line police shield as his avatar.

 

Then some stuff I can't really repeat. Start a search to find Glenn Beck sometimes. It seems he's written to a sandal robe-wearing door-to-door dribble salesman.

 

Read up. God destroyed evil many, many times.

 

Okay. Got that one.

 

I would suggest reading up on yourself and getting the log from your own eye. I'm trying to do that.

 

STU: I think he has better information than he needs to read articles about himself to know about himself. He was there for all the things.

 

GLENN: Right. Thank you. Thank you.

 

Your spine is strong only because men stronger and braver than you are willing to defend the principles that you only pay lip service to.

 

Bonhoeffer was killed by the Nazis. Men with guns defeated them. The left aren't the English, and Gandhi or US, and MLK, and you know it.

 

I think that one is actually advocating guns against the left.

 

PAT: It sounds like it.

 

GLENN: There are so many people -- I tweeted on -- this is a continuation from Sunday. Because I tweeted, "We have to take the hate out of our own hearts."

 

Now, that's not saying that about you. That's saying that about me. I got to take the hate out of my own heart. I have to find a way to love the people who absolutely hate me. And that is really hard.

 

And I'm really -- I'm struggling with these things because I think it's self-imposed ignorance. I think these people, many of them, they know better. They know better. They know that we're not talking about defeating the Nazis or ISIS.

 

We're not talking about that. I am talking about, "How are you going to -- let me ask you this: For those on the right and the left -- I heard Maxine Waters. And we want to play this in a second. She's now mentioning impeachment. What is that going to do? That's going to inoculate Donald Trump for all time on impeachment. That's all that's going to do. And it's going to drive the wedge between the left and the again. Now, it's Maxine Waters, so I get it.

 

Let me ask the protesters. You're going out and protesting, what, exactly? You're protesting the week he was elected. What do you think that's going to do? Does that make you look like you're a reasonable person, at least to half the country? You don't even have anything to protest at least that time? You didn't have anything to protest. You were just out protesting.

 

You're setting Starbucks on fire. Do you think that's going to win anybody over?

 

More importantly, what have we learned about Donald Trump?

 

Donald Trump punches back. It's why a lot of people like him. He punches back. And what does he say, "If you punch me, I punch back twice as hard."

 

STU: Twice as hard.

 

GLENN: So we know every time you punch him, he will escalate. He will punch you back twice as hard.

 

So you're going to riot. You're going to do these things. You're going to threaten impeachment. And what do you think he's going to do? Roll over?

 

He's going to punch you back twice as hard. And then for you to survive, you have to punch him back. And then what is he going to do? He's going to punch back twice as hard again? I mean, where does this end?

 

I don't think people are realizing -- you know, it's like the woman told me in Poland. The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous, they just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else. Look at the cliff you're headed towards. Where does it end?

 

If you're punching on both sides and you're claiming that we have to hate the other side and the other side is an enemy that must be destroyed, there's no place, except civil war. There's no place to go.

 

And I don't think the vast majority of people who are listening, the people who are not listening, the people who are for Trump, and the people who are against Trump, are really seriously wanting a civil war.

 

I think most people want this to end. Stop it.

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Trump just made a MAJOR CHANGE to his Russia & Ukraine strategy

President Trump just threatened Russia with a massive increase in tariffs if it doesn’t reach a ceasefire deal in 60 days, and also announced a new shipment of weapons to Ukraine through NATO. Glenn Beck and former Department of Defense intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill explain why this is a negotiation tactic, not a push for more war.

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GLENN: The president is giving a -- a press conference right now. Very severe tariffs coming on Russia, if no Ukraine cease-fire deal is within 50 days. He's also sending weapons to Ukraine via NATO.

Which I don't know if that makes it better, does it, Jason?

JASON: No. It's basically the same thing.

GLENN: I guess it's not -- we know they're not going to be sold into corruption.

It won't go to some Nazi.

JASON: Right.

GLENN: That's an upgrade.

JASON: It's actually a very good point.

Because there was no transparency at all.

GLENN: None.

JASON: Just talk about chain of custody. I saw, was it Lindsey Graham over the weekend, talking about he was expecting an announcement today?

I don't know if this was what it is or not.

GLENN: Yeah. I think it is.

JASON: We all know at the core what President Trump is about.

Which is stopping war. Which is not having it happen.

I've seen a lot of negotiating power shifting in his corner.

Especially after the-Israel thing.

GLENN: Yes.

JASON: He's definitely got the -- I don't know. It's hard to describe his negotiating.
Or the way he does foreign policy. It's almost like shock. Shock --

GLENN: It's Overton window.

JASON: They don't really know what to expect.

I think this is feeding into that. I think that's part of it.

We know Trump is not wanting to go to war.

But now Vladimir Putin is not so sure.

So I think this is the president testing the waters here. Letting that, you know, what he's done, especially with Iran and Israel.

Let that speak for itself.

And see --

GLENN: This is one of the things that kills me about the critics of Donald Trump.

The ones who like him.

I heard all kinds of people saying, oh, now, look, we're going to go to war. Do you really think that's what Donald Trump is doing.

Do you really think he spent his whole life talking about two things.

His hatred for foreign war. And his love for tariffs.

That's been a lifetime ruse, just so he could get in, and then bring us to war?

He -- he is doing everything he can to stop this war.

You -- you saw it in the frustration he had, what was it?

A week ago. Where he let the F bomb go be into the reporters with his he's going into Marine One.

He just thinks, this is just stupid. This is just stupid in Israel and Hamas and Iran. And also, with Ukraine and Russia.

But he's got to -- you know, you -- peace through strength.

He's not going to send, you know, a pallet of cash to our enemy.

Not going to be like, hey, Glenn, you're Putin. Look what showed up on your tarmac. A trillion dollars, and expect that to work.

It's not going to work. It's not going to work.

He knows that has to be tough.

And that's what's got to happen.

I don't like sending arms to Ukraine. I guess I'm better with them going to NATO.

But then NATO will give them to Ukraine.

And what difference does that make. And I don't understand that one.

I will tell you, he is meeting with the NATO secretary general of the White House right now.

And he's talking about this.

And, you know, you've got to give the guy some credit on being a negotiator.

GLENN: Oh. Absolutely.

He's -- he set all of this up, through how he's dealt with all of our situations that has come before this one.

He's actually in a very, very good position. He's shown that he's willing to -- not only willing to -- but prefers to go to the negotiating table.

He tried to force Vladimir Putin, which he did a little bit. Got some concessions.

But they did something that they have not done since Russia invaded Ukraine. They sat down and talked.

GLENN: Yeah.

JASON: If anything, he should get credit for that right there.

But now, since this is not really working.

He's also showing, that he's willing to get tough.

He's willing to say, okay.

Fine, that's not working.

This has to work. Now the Russians will have to weigh these two things.

I don't want to see a B2 flying over some area. Any time in the near future.

No one wants to see that.

Maybe we should start looking at this negotiating thing a little bit more.

Now, all of the options appear to be on the table. And that's a good thing. The confusion is a good thing on the Russian side.

GLENN: So there's a lot of talk about, you know -- from our side.

On Donald Trump, and he's really -- and I've got to tell you. I don't see it this way.

I see Pam Bondi making some bad. And, you know, maybe I'm signaling her out, unfairly.

I don't think so. But maybe I am.

I see a real problem on that. Real problem.

And that's not a problem they can't correct. They just have to do it.

But I see, you know, now people are saying, see, he's just getting us into a foreign war.

You really -- maybe it's just me.

You don't understand what this guy is doing.

And, quite honestly, tell me one thing that is easy for him to solve?

How is he going to solve -- how do you solve the immigration thing?

How do you solve that?

He's already solved.

Nobody is coming in.

He solved that. Now he's got to fight with these kangaroo courts, all over the country. Where the Supreme Court said with be you can't do it.

You're still doing it.

You're dealing with actual Marxists and communists. Who are funded by our own government, in some cases. Who are putting radicals on the streets to burn things down. And to cause havoc and chaos.

You have -- you have people now in the press who would rather take down Donald Trump, and start a -- some sort of a ground war against ICE, by using video of children running from ICE, most likely not because of ICE. But because they were trying to escape. They were there without any parents.

They were there, as individual children.

God only knows what these people have -- what these kids have gone through.

And they were working illegal in the pot fields.

So I mean, it's bad enough, California. You have pot fields.

On top of that, now you have children.

You know, picking the pot fields for you?

And you're still standing with the communist radicals?

I mean, what do you do?

What do you do?

I mean, it's easy for an authoritarian. They say, he's an authoritarian.

He's, you know, Mussolini, he's Hitler. No, Hitler would have had all of this taken care of a long time ago. Trains would have been running on time by this point.

He's not. He's doing everything he can constitutionally. And, I mean, tell me the thing that is going on his way.

We wouldn't have to -- we wouldn't -- he wouldn't have had to waste his time, today, on Ukraine. In Russia.

He wouldn't have to waste his time on Iran, and Israel.

Had Biden not screwed both of those places up!

He's been working on other things.

Look how much time it's taken. And they love it. They love it.

And they love it, that we're tearing each other apart.

It's hard. You have to question these things. But you have to question them in a way, that you're not tearing them apart. And I don't know how to do that. I don't know if I'm doing a really good job or a bad job.

I don't know if, you know, you perceive me as a giant sellout. Or, you know, too tough.

I have no idea. No idea.

I don't really care. Because I'm just saying what I believe to be the right thing.

But the one thing I don't want to do is cause more problems. Because look at the problems, that the left is causing. And, no, we were not paying attention to it. We're not paying attention to it. We've got Mamdani.

Who is -- is -- he might be the next -- he's a communist! They're shooting themselves if the foot, over and over and over again.

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't -- I mean, you know, we talked earlier about, there are some things that we can do.
That we should be doing.

VOICE: I think that you always said to me way back when I started doing this job. When I was just -- came on with the chief researchers.

When you were finally -- if you're stuck, just start following the money.

GLENN: Yeah.

VOICE: That will tell you so much.

I feel like right now, we are stuck with the Epstein thing. Whether it's because of chain of custody.

Whether it's because it's been 15 years. Whatever it is.

I think that's something that a special counsel. And a grand -- a grand jury focused on weaponization of government, as a whole, so Russia-gate. Everything. I think a lot of the Epstein stuff will come out with that. I think if you just started following the money just on the Epstein stuff.

We can block out a lot of the other things that seem suspicious. Let's say the intelligence connections. Things like that. That we can't prove.

We probably will never prove.

We all think are there. Let's not go there for now. Let's just concentrating on following the money.

That could lead us to the intelligence connections.

That could lead us to a lot of the other things. Look at Epstein's financial network, for instance. It is a maze.

This is not how things are supposed to go. Offshore Shell companies?

These are facts. Offshore Shell companies in places like Bermuda, where we get money coming in by the millions. Then we get black. They're black coming in. They're black going out.

Why is that, Glenn?

Isn't that something that our financial experts, nerds can say, wait a minute. Let's focus on that. Maybe that will lead us --

GLENN: Yeah. The question to the Treasury, were there any warnings from banks. Because banks were supposed to warn. That's what happened with Hunter Biden.

Remember, there were 80 some.

Or 180 some warnings to the treasury, from banks, saying, this looks like money laundering.

I would like to know from the treasury.

Were there any warnings on that?

Because with that many offshore accounts.

That's what those are for.

You know, it's either sheltering money against taxes, or something really nefarious is going on.

Money is going in and out, that shouldn't be going in and out.

And where is this money coming from?

And where is this money going to?

JASON: Yeah. Banks that were supposedly. Turning a blind eye to some of these transactions.

Maybe we look at some of those.

What about the charities. This is another thing.

I want to put some of these things -- maybe we can share it on Wednesday, on TV show.

Just the money alone. Is just a total mine screw.

It's insane. But like charities. Why were major billionaires, going to Epstein, to then funnel money.

Not -- I don't want to say funnel money.

But to have Epstein do major contributions to some of these charities.

Why?

Why would major billionaires. After Epstein has already been outed through a case.

What was that?

2008. 2009.

He's already been outed as this person. Which you then go to this guy. And then say, let's funnel money into some of these charities.

Why?

Unless you're trying to hide money. Unless you're trying to direct it many ways.

Again, these are tangible things that you can follow. This is money!

It tells a story. We can follow it. Now, why isn't the mainstream media concentrating on that?

Why isn't the New York Times saying, Bermuda?

There's money. And show companies in Bermuda.

The US Virgin Islands.

This makes no sense.

This is like cypress. And gangsters. And Ukraine. For crying out loud.

GLENN: Which they also didn't cover.

JASON: It's right there. Which they didn't cover. Come on, guys!

GLENN: I know. I know.

Well, we'll cover it, on the Wednesday night special.

Don't miss it. This Wednesday. Only Blaze TV.

And my YouTube channel. YouTube.com/GlennBeck.

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Everything the FBI is investigating about Democrats EXPLAINED

“Just The News” CEO and Editor in Chief John Solomon joins Glenn to explain the FBI’s new investigation into an “ongoing conspiracy by the Deep State and the Democrats” over the past 10 years. Could this investigation finally give us justice and answers on stories like the Russian collusion narrative, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, and the cover-up of Joe Biden’s mental decline? It might come down to Pam Bondi, he argues …

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GLENN: John Solomon, welcome to the program. John.

JOHN: Good to be with you.

GLENN: Hey, I just looked at the last time you were on with me was 2023. And I keep thinking, we have to have John Solomon on, more than that.

JOHN: I would love it. Count me in, any time you want.

GLENN: You are the best.

Okay. So I saw this report, and give me some hope. I so desperately want to believe, John.

Give me some hope.

JOHN: Yeah. Listen, this is a very real thing. The FBI has opened a predicated investigation. That means, there's enough evidence to support a belief that crimes occurred.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

JOHN: Viewing the last ten years as an ongoing conspiracy, an ongoing conspiracy by the Deep State Democrats to protect Democrats from possible criminal prosecution, people like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.

And to foist upon Donald Trump and his supporters. Investigations that weren't warranted by the evidence. And when I go through that, you can cycle through this. At the end, put a very clear pattern and time line.

Hillary couldn't get that off, on the email cases, even though the FBI got new intelligence early. Just a few weeks ago, before James Comey cleared her. That said, maybe there was a criminal matter. They ignored it.

They cleared her, on the same day, they start working towards putting Donald Trump under the boat. This Russia collusion investigation.

Fast forward to 2020.

There are three events that protect Democrats

The effort to call Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation, the impeachment scandal to make it look Donald Trump had a Ukraine problem when it was Joe Biden. And in August of 2020, the FBI gets an extraordinary piece of evidence, that China is trying to hijack the election. By creating bogus mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.

And they don't investigate. They pull back. And actually turn a blind eye to it.

Then you go all the way down to 2022. Jack Smith stuff. Joe Biden. Sticking the prosecutors on Donald Trump. When he himself has a classified document. And instead, they will project that on Donald Trump.

And you go all the way to '24, where Joe Biden's mental decline is covered up by the White House, to try to influence the election. Kash Patel's document. Or the FBI's document treats this as an ongoing conspiracy. Now, why is that important?

It allows you to go back and charge events that are outside the statute of limitations. And you can do this in DC. Many of the overt acts occurred in Florida, with the raid of President Trump's home. So you could potentially have a grand jury in the trial in Florida, where the jury is probably more likely to consider the evidence fairly.

GLENN: Okay. I don't want to get my hopes up. John, I heard this in the ongoing conspiracy, that that is remarkable. That will take care of everything that we have -- I mean, because nobody has been prosecuted. For anything.

And you just -- and you just list a lot of really important possible crimes.


And most of those are past the statute of limitations. But if they say this is an ongoing conspiracy, they can go all the way back, past that statute of limitations. And charge everybody.

However -- oh. And the other good part is, you could possibly do it in Florida.

So if you're not doing it in Washington, DC, or New York, you have a chance of actually a fair trial.

But we have been let down over and over and over again.

JOHN: Oh, yeah, many more times, than we've ever been given -- a moment --

GLENN: Right.

JOHN: I think this is going to turn on two very important events, in the next week or two. The first is, well, Pam Bondi appointed a special prosecutor, to give them the full authority and resources they do. You can't do this at the FBI, while you're also trying to stop criminals.

GLENN: Yes.

JOHN: You have to break this off. Give a person to focus on this full-time to do it. You panel that grand jury, and then treat this as a real investigation.

The second is there are two pieces of evidence.

It's remarkable given all the Russiagate. And other documents that we've gotten.

That these two highly classified documents have ever been released. But they are the admission point.

They are the events that would help the jury understand the beginning of the repetition of this pattern. In -- there is a set of documents. The inspector -- DOJ, inspector general report. Hillary Clinton being let off, in the email scandal.

That shows, that just before James Comey cleared her, the intelligence came in and suggested there was a serious criminal matter. And the FBI chose under James Comey not to investigate them.

The Democrat gets off in the face of perhaps really damning evidence. The second piece is a document --

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

Do we know what that evidence was?

JOHN: We only have the description of Chuck Grassley in one letter. Chuck Grassley has spent eight years trying to get this information released, and I think he is about succeed with President Trump. But basically they say, our intelligence came in. The FBI should have investigated, and it didn't. Instead, it just waved a magic wand and exonerated Hillary Clinton.

We don't know more than that. It's highly classified.

I believe it's top secret, compartmentalized level, so it's sensitive. But I think Chuck Grassley may have the president's attention, and this may happen. Now you know that maybe Hillary Clinton, there's another piece of evidence, that we didn't know about that Hillary Clinton perhaps got off on -- in fact, she might have been prosecuted. That establishes Democrats getting off, like Hunter Biden afterwards. All the other things happening. The flip side is that a piece of evidence. That John Durham, the special prosecutor, who tried to indict on DC but couldn't get them convicted. He writes in his final report about the Clinton planned intelligence. It's an intercept of the United States intelligence. Intercepted, in July, before -- before the FBI opened up the clearly corrupt crossfire hurricane investigation.

An unwarranted investigation of Russia collusion. A couple of days before that, the US intelligence community intercepts that Hillary Clinton had personally approved a plan, to hang a Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign. So basically create a scandal, to make it look like Russia is trying to help Donald Trump win the election, so they can get by Hillary Clinton's own Russia problems.

Remember, Bill Clinton, the 500,000-dollar speech fee from Russia. They got all the money for the foundation from Russian interest.

So the government knows before it opens up on Donald Trump, before it opens up on Donald Trump, that Hillary Clinton is concocting the very thing they are about to investigate.

And they go ahead and proceed with that.

Now, we don't know what the intercept is specifically. But if we get that released, and John Durham clearly was begging for it to be released in his report.

Those two pieces give us the ignition of this recurring cycle. Of let Democrats off. And pin down Republicans with a bogus scandal.

GLENN: The FBI has both of those?

JOHN: They do.

Well, they're both, believe it or not, in classified annexes of the report.

So the first one is in the possession of the justice department inspector general. He got access to that -- that intelligence. And that would be the easiest place to declassify from.

Pam Bondi and the president could do that. The second is in the John Durham Report.

He also created a classified annex to his report, that has that explosive Clinton planned intelligence. So Pam Bondi and the president could do that. The FBI is well aware of this.

It's part of the reason why Kash Patel and the FBI opened up the conspiracy case. But unless you can share it with the grand jury because it's declassified, you can keep the grand jurors in the dark in what may be two of the most explosive pieces of evidence, we haven't had!

GLENN: What makes you believe -- I'm really trying. I'm trying -- I'm trying to keep hope alive here.

What -- what makes you believe that this will actually happen.

JOHN: Oh, listen. I'm a reporter.

I start with a cynical look on everything. I do not know that if it will happen. I do know the events that they identify in the story, have happened.

Now, the investigation was opened about three months ago, by the FBI.

I had talked to some people that were consulted by the Justice Department.

Would you consider being a special counsel. Or deputy special counsel.

Now, remember, special counsels have to be Senate-confirmed so it would be better to have the US attorney and if you don't have a US attorney, maybe you go and name someone who is a cabinet secretary, who is a former prosecutor. Lee Zeldin at the EPA was a prosecutor earlier in his life.

He's Senate-confirmed. He was part of the team that broke the Russia collusion, delusion, out in the public.

GLENN: Wow.

JOHN: What if you named him and you just sped things up?

Those are the things that have happened. Now, the only reason I will believe it is if Donald Trump declassifies and Pam Bondi appoints the special counsel. Well, see if they do that, it won't take long.

Listen, this is not rocket science.

They can do this tomorrow, if they chose to.

GLENN: Do they have to do it before the statute of limitations runs out on people?


JOHN: Well, a lot of the events. Comey it goes back to '16. They would be wrapped into a conspiracy.

You can bring them forward.

There are plenty of events that have occurred in 2022, '23, and '24 that keep the statue alive for several years.

The raid on Mar-a-Lago, over the objections of the FBI. That could be an -- the -- there's a very small window left. On the China intelligence. The China intelligence comes in, in August.

That's still about six or eight weeks out.

If you open the investigation now, you might be able to toll the statute on that.

But there are several events that occurred between 2022 and 2024. The cover-up of Joe Biden's mental decline. That keep a long window for a special prosecutor to bring the whole kitchen in. This is basically a kitchen sink conspiracy case.

But that's how you point out to the mob, back in the '80s and '90s with Rudy Giuliani. You can tie them together. There are several years of statutes that are part of the alleged conspiracy. So they have time to do this.

But time is ticking, and it's up to President Trump and Pam Bondi. If they want to pursue what Kash Patel started. Just announce it this week. Get it going!

GLENN: Is there any reason you can think of, that Donald Trump would not want to do this?

JOHN: I haven't talked to him yet. I will try to interview him the next day or two, if they will allow me to. But I would like to find out. Would you declassify it?

What do you think about it?

At the end of the day, the president usually will keep my hands off the Justice Department. So it will come down to Pam Bondi, who has had a bumpy start to her tenure, for sure.

GLENN: You think?

JOHN: But at the same time, you know, she is smart. She understands things.

This could be a gift horse just showed up at her door. And if she runs with it, I think the American public will get an accounting that they've never gotten for it. Potentially, some of these bad actors, who had a fight, but they just kept going over and over again. Commit a crime.

Adjust the crime on the other guys. Create a false scandal. They did that several times.

Now is that time to unravel that. Great punishment so it doesn't -

GLENN: John, I -- I started the podcast earlier today with a phone call from somebody who I think really expressed what a lot of us are feeling.

About the Pam Bondi, you know, debacle here on Epstein.

And he said, look, there's nothing more important than crimes against children.

And all of our guts are saying, this is -- there's something really wrong here.

And now we're being told to shut up and sit down.

And we're -- and we're being told this, without giving us, as he said, help me believe. I want to believe.

Help me believe. What is your take on the Epstein thing? And why it's -- I mean, is it just Pam Bondi that has bungled this thing, or was it?

JOHN: Listen, the FBI has turned in everything it has. There's no doubt about that. I've done reporting on that.

I think Pam Bondi simply raised the expectation of this, maybe to have a Fox News moment, or just to have one of those excitement moments.

And wasn't well-prepared. And so overstated what was there. And then they've been rolling backwards ever since.

Now, I think there are two places that president Trump, Pam Bondi, and the American public could benefit by focusing on.

We focused on what the FBI got.

But probably the most interesting evidence is still under seal in the grand jury and the southern district of New York.

GLENN: Yes.

JOHN: Every time you see someone talking about this. Those documents aren't mentioned.

I think that's what people like -- the lawyers for Epstein were talking about Alan Dershowitz. They were talking about it the other day.

I think you look at the grand juries. There's two grand juries. And there's one in the Southern District of New York. State of Florida is out of Pam Bondi's control now. Though, it would have been in her control back then.

Get that information out. Get the information at the Southern district of New York.

Create a bond index of all the documents so that the people see, what's been releasing, what's not being released, the reason it isn't being released.

You have a moment of transparency, that would reboot the confidence of the American people. The trust going forward.

The second place to look, is that it is clear that Jeffrey Epstein had some interactions with the United States intelligence. I do not believe he was an asset. He wasn't a knock. He wasn't a controlled source for the CIA.

But at various times, he would have had interactions with the CIA, and the people around the CIA. By Jeffrey Epstein's own admission in an interview he did several years ago, before his death.

He admitted that he was working with the Saudi Arabian businessman named Khashoggi back in the 1980s, when Khashoggi was the main man for the Iran-Contra transactions between the Reagan administration in Iran and Contra rebels. It's impossible that Jeffrey Epstein, that level of relationship, didn't run into the CIA. And most likely, ran into the CIA.

Excuse me. Again, a few times, and my sources say, there were a few other interactions. But check that out too.

He's dead. There's no reason behind this information. So Florida Grand Jury.

Southern District, New York grand jury, it's unsealed. And whatever the CIA has on Epstein.
I think that would give great accountability.

Would get Pam Bondi and Donald Trump. And the FBI focused on other bigger things than this.

I don't think it's going to be a lot of surprises, but the lack of trust that they have created can be easily fixed with that.

GLENN: Thank you. Thank you.

This is why I had John on today.

Thank you. You gave me hope on Friday. You gave me hope today.

Thank you, John, I appreciate it. You've got it. John Solomon.

Just the news.

If you don't follow his reports. You should, justthenews.com. Justthenews.com.

He's also on X. J Sullivan reports. He worked for the New York Times and the Washington Post.

And the Wall Street Journal.

And he finally said enough is enough.

And he left. And he started his own thing. Because they wouldn't let them cover things.

And he does an outstanding job. An outstanding job. That's what we should be asking for. I wrote those things down.

Those are the things that we should be asking for.

And I think we should also perhaps start to ask the president and Pam Bondi, to open a grand jury on a grand conspiracy.

They'll know exactly what we're talking about.

And the FBI has done all the groundwork.

Now it's just up to Pam Bondi and the president to allow those two documents to be unsealed. Or to be declassified.

When it comes to Epstein, unseal the documents. In the courts!

And I don't need to know everybody's name. You can redact all of the names.

You know, when it comes to -- anybody who is a possible victim, just X out their names. I have no problem with that. I don't think anybody wants to know that.

We just need -- help us help you. Please.

Help us, help you. Because there is a real lack of trust. And if we don't repair this, the republic is once again at stake. As much and if not worse, than it was before.

Because we're now taking all of the people who believe in the country, and we're dividing them even more.

We can't continue to divide!

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Is America’s bankruptcy INEVITABLE?

The United States is facing possibly the largest debt crisis in our history as our national debt rises faster and faster. Glenn Beck warns: is our bankruptcy inevitable? Plus, Glenn and Stu discuss the recent protest during an ICE raid on a farm in California.

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GLENN: Now, here's another thing. And I will hit this once.

Because it's a little -- it's a little overwhelming.

But I just think you should know it.

Since the dead ceiling was raised on July 3rd. July 3rd.

The US debt is up $410 billion.

Just in the first two days.

Let me say that again.

We raised the debt ceiling. And the US debt goes up 410 billion, almost half of a trillion dollars in two days!

Now, this comes after the US Treasury ended extraordinary measures, raising the debt ceiling by 5 trillion.

We are in the midst of the US' largest crisis.

Largest one ever. Now, listen to this.

After hitting the debt limit of $36.1 trillion in January of 2025, Treasury began extraordinary measures to conserve cash. Last week, when Trump's big, beautiful bill was signed into law. The debt ceiling from 36.1 to $41.1 trillion. And what happened?

In two days, up 410 billion. Raised due to a technical process.

Now, Stu, I don't want to get all technical here. But I think that -- that the debt ceiling going up, and then us spending an additional $410 billion. I think that technical process. And, again, if I'm too wonky, maybe you can explain it, is out of control politicians that are just spending too much.

But maybe that's just me. Is that too technical. Is that too wonky, to get to?

STU: Yeah. You're in nerd world with that one, Glenn. People aren't going to understand it.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

So they were just -- they were just doing what you do, when you don't have the money. They were just moving bills around. And paying what they absolutely had to. Until the debt ceiling was raised.

And then when they did, they were like woo. Because we were completely out of money.

Now we can print some more. Now we're free to borrow a record 41.1 trillion dollars in debt.

Now, here's the part that kind of opens your eyes. To put this into perspective, at the start of 2020, the US had $23.2 trillion in at the time. In 2020, $23.2 trillion.

Where are we now?

Well, we just moved that debt ceiling up to 41 trillion, because we're at $36.1 trillion.

With the new limit, we will mark $17.9 trillion increase, since 2020. That's a 77 percent increase in our debt. Have you thought of it this way?

At our current pace, we will reach the new debt ceiling much sooner than expected.

The treasury posted a 316 billion-dollar deficit in May. That's the third largest in record.

For the first eight months of 2025, the budget gap hit $1.3 trillion. The third largest in history.

Over the last 12 months. The US borrowed 1.9 trillion.

Or 158 billion, every month.

That is half -- this is half of the May levels.

But let's take 158 billion to be conserve.

US current debt stands at 36.6.

We are 4.5 trillion below the limit now.

At our current pace, it will take us 28 months, to hit that limit.


STU: Jeez.

GLENN: In fact, the debt ceiling crisis. It looks like it will hit us now, every two years. The debt ceiling is hit faster than it can be moved. From June 2023 and October 2021, we're the last debt ceiling crisis. The US budget deficit has averaged 9 percent of GDP over the last five years.

But over the last 12 months, the budget gap has hit 7 percent of GDP. That is higher than during 2001, or any of the 1980 recessions.

We now spend 7.1 trillion dollars, 24 percent of our GDP. We have a spending problem.
That's our problem. We are issuing so much debt now, bond prices are falling. And yields are rising. What does that mean? It means, we're charging less, and we're paying out more in interest. That's not going to help us!

The US spent a record of $1.2 trillion on interest expense alone.

That's more than the total spending on defense. Medicaid, and the veterans program.

At our current pace, we're set to see US cost exceed $2 trillion within a matter of years!

Over the next ten years, the US is projected to pay $13.8 trillion just in interest.

For interest alone. This is not taxpayers. This is per person in the United States.

For interest alone, we are now on the hook for $40,500 per person, just for the interest!

This is four times Social Security cash deficit in the next ten years.

Five times the cost of 403 US weather and climate disasters. Since 1980.

403, weather and climate disasters.

It's the cost of 403 of those! Sorry.

It's the -- it's five times the cost of those, since 1980! I just wanted to -- I mean, just want to start there. Wake up to your situation.

People are arguing about all of the wrong things right now, and they are -- we think we are skating. And we think that this can last forever. It's not going to last forever, and then you add things on top of this.

Like, what is happening with -- with ICE?

I don't know if you saw the video of the protesters. Some protester that was firing some sort of a weapon, at a federal agent during the ICE raid at a farm in California. Let me play this. Cut two, please. This is the raid --

VOICE: Take a look at this video right here. It appears a protestor fired some kind of gun at federal agents. This happened this afternoon.

It was a really chaotic scene at the time.
A lot of smoking was being launched at the protesters. Again, it appears that a protestor fired back with that weapon.

It looks like he fired at least a couple of times. We've not heard about any agents being hurt.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: So we are entering a very violent. Very, very violent time. First of all, let me talk about this particular raid. This was at a legal pot farm!

Okay. I think we can probably in the past, just done an hour on that. You know, oh, it's a legal pot farm.

Okay. Forget about that. That's not a problem apparently anymore.

It's being tended, this legal pot farm is being tended by illegals. That are coming across the border.

Well, we don't want to hurt our farming community.

I don't think of our farming community, as pot farms. But maybe that's just me.

Again, why get -- why get down in those details?

STU: Yeah. Glenn, this is just an existential question here.

But is it a legal pot farm, if the workers are illegal?

GLENN: Stu. Stu, again, that would be hour two of any past show that we have ever done together.

STU: Okay. All right.

GLENN: All right. So they go in, and they're trying to bust the illegals.

All right. What happens? Well, there starts to be protests. These protests come.

They start firing at ICE.

ICE has to put tear gas down.

Now the illegals are running to save themselves.

But who is running amongst this crowd?

Apparently, a bunch of children.

Now, I suppose those legal pot farms are providing a good education for those kids.

You know, probably has a pot farm day care center for those kids. So they can be out of the fields. And of course not working for their parents. Because that would be underage labor. You wouldn't want that to happen in America.

You know, all these people that have these bleeding hearts. Like, oh, this is just so wrong.

You're not even thinking anymore.

You're not even thinking.

You just see a video where you have kids running with their parents. Children running from the fields of this pot farm.

What were they doing there?

Certainly, that wasn't underage labor, was that?

Because you would be against that.

Wouldn't you?

Or are you?

Or are you only against that, if it's white children?

I'm not sure. I'm confused.

So you have the underage children. And these bleeding hearts, who are saying, we have to let these people go.

We have to let them just do what they do!

Really? You mean work in the shadows?

You mean engage in possible child labor? Okay. Possibly making, what?

A dollar an hour. Yeah. No, no, no. That's really, really, really good.

Then let's just let these protesters, and they're not protesters.

They are terrorists now.

We just let these terrorists get away with firing guns at our -- at our ICE agents. Things are changing in America. Let's just look at the violence, just in the last couple of weeks.

You have the July 4th ICE ambush, which is what?

ICE 25 miles outside of the city of Dallas. They have a detention center.

A coordinated well-planned attack.

Guy is covered in black. You know, in -- in military gear. They come and they start shooting fireworks at the detention center. Then a few of them break off, and they start spray painting the cars. Which brings unarmed ICE agents out of the building, to try to stop them from defacing the -- the cars.

They're unarmed. Well, this group has snipers in the woods. Hiding in the woods.

As soon as those unarmed agents come out, they start shooting them. Shot one of them in the neck. Thank God, he's still alive. What do you call that?

What do you call that? A Revolutionary War. Terrorism. It's certainly not a peaceful protest. Neither was it yesterday.

And, meanwhile, we have Congressmen who are actually trying to pass a bill in Congress right now, saying that the ICE members can't wear masks.

Well, you know what, when your bad guys stop wearing masks. When your people who are on the -- on the college campuses stop wearing masks, maybe we can live in a community and live in a society where our police officers don't have to wear masks.

Don't give me this. That's gets appear zero stuff.

By the way, the gestapo never wore masks.

They didn't care.

This is the kind of stuff that you see in the third world countries.

You mean like riots on the streets?

Yeah. It's stuff you see in third world countries. And you're dragging us into a third world country.

And, you know what, it's just -- it's -- it's time!

It's time. It's just time to say, enough is enough. And I'm not saying take extraordinary measures.

I'm saying, can our US government, our FBI, our department of justice stop acting like every Bond villain I've ever seen.

And here's what I mean by that. It's like you take these guys off the street, and then you strap them on to a table. And you say, the laser is going to cut your head in half.

No. It's not going to. We all know it's not going to.

Can we stop acting like Bond villains? Can we actually take care of the problem?

Actually arrest these people. Try them. And put them in jail.

We need to start setting a few examples. Otherwise, this is going to ton spiral out of control.