Owner of a Lonely Heart: Pat Laments Foreigner Being Overlooked AGAIN for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Let's just get this out of the way. Pat Gray is a hardcore Foreigner fan. Foreigner is the best freaking band ever (well, Foreigner and Boston). So any list of inductees into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame that doesn't include Foreigner will fall short in his eyes.

"I'm sure they're all incredibly deserving --- and certainly more deserving than Foreigner who can't even be nominated because they only had about 30 Top 40 hits. They only had, I don't know, 15 or 20 top ten hits. They only sold about 80 million records worldwide. They've only been icons for about 40 years," Pat said.

Who made the final cut for 2017? In the performance category, Joan Baez, Electric Light Orchestra (ELO), Journey, Pearl Jam, Tupac Shakur and Yes will be inducted.

"Joan Baez? Joan Baez?! Did you see the people's vote on the website for a month or two leading up to the actual decision? Joan Baez was at the bottom of that list, so the people's vote means nothing," Pat said.

Evidently, a 1960s protest song goes a long way, baby.

Read below or listen to the full segment from Hour 3 for answers to these questions:

• Does Pat like any of the performers on the 2017 list?

• Does Rolling Stone magazine have a crush on Yes?

• Why did George Washington University remove US History as a requirement for history majors?

• How did a wild and crazy guy like Steve Martin become a target of feminists?

• Should Brent Musburger retire?

Listen to this segment from The Glenn Beck Program:

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors:

PAT: In for Glenn. He just threw his back out about an hour ago. Technology is awesome. But what are the drawbacks? What are we becoming? We'll talk about some of the latest innovations to be in every home as we have been today.

We've been talking about your New Year's resolutions. We also want to get into Black Lives Matter. Do they?

We don't hear much about the black lives being lost in Chicago, do we? And what a year, 2016 was for murders in Chicago. Just unbelievable.

Also, the Russians influencing the election. Nah, that didn't happen. Had nothing to do with Russians, according to Julian Assange. And we certainly believe him.

JEFFY: Oh.

PAT: Also, George Washington University has apparently removed US history from their curriculum. We'll start there, right now.

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PAT: Yeah, Glenn just hurt his back pretty badly. Hopefully he'll be back on tomorrow, maybe I don't know, from a hospital bed or his own bed.

JEFFY: No kidding.

PAT: We'll see. 888-727-BECK. It's Pat Gray and Jeffy in. Stu is also sick today. So not a great start for those guys in 2017.

JEFFY: No doubt.

PAT: So -- the other thing that we were going to mention -- you just mentioned right before we came on. Apparently the Rock Hall of Fame --

JEFFY: Oh.

PAT: Has decided who is going into the Hall of Fame for this year.

JEFFY: Yes, they have. And we were pretty close -- we were pretty close when we talked about who they were going to pick.

PAT: Tell us the nominations. Do you have that in front of you?

JEFFY: I just have who they picked. But we can certainly get it.

PAT: Who is actually going in this year? I'm sure they're all incredibly deserving, and certainly more deserving than Foreigner who can't even be nominated because they only had about 30 Top 40 hits. They only had, I don't know, 15 or 20 top ten hits. They only sold about 80 million records worldwide.

They've only been icons for about 40 years. You wouldn't want them in the Rock Hall of Fame. But you do want --

JEFFY: But -- Joan Baez.

PAT: Oh, my gosh. Joan Baez? Joan Baez! Did you see the people -- they always do the people's vote on the website for a month or two leading up to the actual decision.

JEFFY: I did. Right.

PAT: And Joan Baez was at the bottom of that list, so the people's vote means nothing.

JEFFY: We talked about it either here or on Pat and Stu. We did both. We talked about who we thought they would pick. And, you know, obviously who was in the running.

PAT: Right.

JEFFY: And we were pretty close. We were pretty close --

PAT: So -- because I think we said Joan Baez would be one of them. Because all you have to do is sing a protest song in the 1960s and you're in.

JEFFY: Oh, yeah -- and coffeehouse queen of that.

PAT: Oh, my gosh.

JEFFY: ELO. Electric Light Orchestra.

PAT: Okay. That's a good one.

JEFFY: That's worthy. That's worthy.

PAT: Absolutely belong. Should have been in a long time ago.

JEFFY: Yes.

PAT: So ELO. Joan Baez.

JEFFY: Journey.

PAT: Journey, of course, had to get in. I mean, they deserve it.

JEFFY: Yeah. I know. Pearl Jam. We said there's no way they're not going to --

PAT: No way.

JEFFY: It's iconic.

PAT: The other thing besides protest songs is singing about how you were abused as a child.

JEFFY: It's an era. Yeah, it's an era. That's what they represent, right?

PAT: I hate my parents. I've never liked them. I got beaten when I was a kid. And you're in. You're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So who else?

So Joan Baez, ELO, Journey, Pearl Jam.

JEFFY: And, of course, Tupac Shakur. Who else do you think of in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, other than Tupac Shakur? Now, Tupac was not at the bottom, but he was down there.

PAT: Yeah, he was very near the bottom, with Joan Baez.

JEFFY: He was down there. Yes.

PAT: Unbelievable.

JEFFY: You knew there was no way they weren't going to put Tupac in. No way.

PAT: And he's not rock. But they don't -- they don't go back that for some reason. The Rock Hall of Fame really has very little to do with rock 'n' roll because a lot of rap artists are in. R&B. You know, so -- it's frustrating. It's really frustrating.

JEFFY: And finally we have --

PAT: Oh, there's another one?

JEFFY: Finally we have -- yes, of course. Of course.

PAT: Because they're a Rolling Stone favorite, right? If the Rolling Stone magazine liked the band, there's a good chance they're going to get in.

Name -- other than Owner of a Lonely Heart and Roundabout, name a Yes song.

JEFFY: Are you talking to me?

PAT: Yeah, I'm talking to you.

JEFFY: I can't.

PAT: Yeah.

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No one can.

JEFFY: I want to. I want to look it up bad and give you one, but I can't.

I didn't even -- I would have just said Roundabout. Owner of a Lonely Heart, yeah, I know it, but --

PAT: Which was bigger than Roundabout. I mean, that was their biggest hit.

JEFFY: Yeah, I know. But Roundabout was longer, so you played it to take a longer break.

PAT: Yes, you did. If you ever had to go to the bathroom and you worked at a classic rock station, you go Roundabout. Because it was about seven and a half, eight minutes.

JEFFY: I'll be your roundabout, 80,000 times, you were good. You were good. No problem.

PAT: Roundabout and Stairway to Heaven were the two.

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George Washington University in Washington, DC, has decided they're giving students more flexibility.

JEFFY: Isn't that nice?

PAT: They're going to give them more flexibility. That means freeing them up from taking required courses like US history.

JEFFY: Why?

PAT: Even if they're history majors, they don't have to take US history.

JEFFY: Come on now. That's agonizing. We should -- any government money they get should be taken from them immediately.

PAT: You xenophobic bastard. What are you talking about?

JEFFY: Should be taken from them immediately. I don't care if you tell me we don't like the US history they're teaching. I don't care. There should be US history. That should be a mandatory thing. It should absolutely be required.

PAT: Especially -- especially if you're a history major.

JEFFY: Yes.

PAT: How do you not study US history?

According to The College Fix, the new requirements allow for students to take an optional course in previously required courses or a high score on a placement test to opt out of the requirement.

JEFFY: Oh, well, good.

PAT: But there's no more mandate to take US history.

JEFFY: They changed a couple other things too. I will say they eliminated the requirements for US North American and European history, which, you know, even if you're a history major is absolutely wrong, as well as foreign language requirement. Those -- that's not required now for a major. So you could get -- you could get your US history major without that history. Big deal. Who cares.

PAT: And the reason that they're saying they decided to do this is because they want to recruit new students to better reflect a globalizing world. Because, Jeffy, we're citizens of the globe now.

JEFFY: Are we?

PAT: We're not US citizens anymore. We're citizens of the globe.

Citizens of this planet. You know, and --

JEFFY: That's good.

PAT: So this is a beautiful thing. They can take world history instead, European history. We are just -- we're begging for trouble.

JEFFY: Every dime.

PAT: Begging for trouble.

JEFFY: If they take a dime of taxpayer's money, it should be taken from them right now. That's fine. You can do what you want. I don't care what they do.

PAT: Right. Right. But you get no taxpayer money.

JEFFY: Come on now. You're a United States university. United States of America university.

PAT: I'm just really worried about what's going on in our colleges. Because even at the so-called conservative-leaning schools, they're teaching our kids garbage. Garbage.

JEFFY: Not really. Not really.

PAT: I was talking to my son over the Christmas break about what he was learning from his professors in history. And he said they hate Israel, for one thing.

JEFFY: Of course.

PAT: And the slant on Israeli/Palestinian relations was all Palestinian-leaning.

JEFFY: Of course.

PAT: And he said they didn't come right out and say that Israel is in the wrong, but everything they taught led you to believe --

JEFFY: And why not?

PAT: -- that Israel was in the wrong.

JEFFY: We got the United Nations. Our country is, we don't want to vote. We know what's going to happen. We got John Kerry telling us that they're wrong and bad.

PAT: Right.

JEFFY: Obama has been telling us they want -- well, they should go back to the 68 borders, and Israel is in the wrong. Why wouldn't you be that way?

PAT: And I told him, you know, do they even talk about the fact that the Palestinians had their shot at a homeland when the partition was made in 1948? When the UN gave birth to Israel, they also gave birth to a Palestinian state. And the Palestinians rejected it and instead went to war with their Arab brethren against Israel in 1948. What? What?

JEFFY: What?

PAT: That -- they never talked about it. They never talked about it! How is that possible?

And then they went to war again in 1956. And again in 1967. And again in 1973. And 1981. And so on and so forth through history.

And the Israelis had had enough by '67 and final kept the West Bank. Because the Palestinians have always been, "That's not enough." I mean, I don't know what enough is for them.

PAT: Well, enough is getting rid of Israel. It means getting rid of Israel.

JEFFY: And unless we do that, that's not enough.

PAT: That's right. And really, you have the UN going along with that. And now apparently you've got the Obama administration going along with the UN, in these resolutions.

JEFFY: Yeah.

PAT: And Israel is pretty fed up with it. And I don't blame them. I don't blame them.

So what chance do our kids have when they're hearing all of this garbage in college and these are the people that we've set up as the authority figures. This is where you're going to go and learn all these great things to prepare you for life. And then they're hearing all of this stuff. And now they're not getting any US history on top of that, at places like George Washington University.

JEFFY: And that actually is the argument for not having to get the US history, right? You're hoping that maybe the history they get will be correct and not --

PAT: But it's not going to be.

JEFFY: No, it's not no.

PAT: It's going to be a worldview. It's going to be an anti-American view. And it's hard to overcome that slant. And so if your kids are attending universities, I'd -- I recommend talking to them about what they're learning from their professors so that you can at least provide them with the other side of it.

JEFFY: It may take a while.

PAT: And as I told Sean, I don't mind if they teach you both sides. I don't care about it at all. In fact, that's the way you should -- let them decide. Just teach them both sides of the issue. Don't slant it one ware way or the other.

JEFFY: Right.

PAT: He said one of the things he liked best about one of his professors was, one day he would come in with one side of an argument, and he would argue the other side while the students came at him with questions.

JEFFY: Nice.

PAT: And then the next day, he would argue the other side of it and have them respond accordingly. And I thought, "Well, yeah. That's what you should be doing."

JEFFY: Absolutely.

PAT: Let them decide. But -- because otherwise, it's indoctrination.

JEFFY: Well...

PAT: And sadly, that's what's happening.

JEFFY: Yeah, absolutely.

PAT: 888-727-BECK. It's Pat and Jeffy in for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

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PAT: Pat and Jeffy in for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program. He hurt his back. Threw it out again. And so hopefully he'll be back tomorrow.

888-727-BECK. Some people under fire for comments that they've made. Steve Martin -- this weird controversy.

JEFFY: Unbelievable.

PAT: Is one of the dumbest I've ever seen in my life.

JEFFY: And he deleted it.

PAT: Well, of course. Yeah, especially if these lefties in Hollywood -- they don't understand the insanity of the left because they're part of it. So the least little criticism they get, okay. I'm sorry. He actually said -- and I can't remember the exact tweet. But he tweeted out after Carrie Fisher died that she was beautiful, and she was also smart and talented. Something to that effect, right? Because he mentioned her intelligence matching her beauty. Something to that effect.

Well, the feminists went crazy. How dare you mention a person's appearance after they've died!

What?

JEFFY: Right. Right.

PAT: When did that become a thing, that I can't do that. Are you kidding me? So if Brad Pitt dies, no woman better ever mention --

JEFFY: Not one word.

PAT: -- that he was good-looking, or we will hit the roof.

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That is asinine. Do you have the tweet? It was innocuous. It wasn't offensive in any way. And yet, because he got so much flak, he deleted it. What was the original tweet?

JEFFY: From @SteveMartin. Think she was -- oh, let's see. These are the ones that are against him.

His tweet: When I was a young man, Carrie Fisher was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen. She turned out to be witty and bright as well.

PAT: Witty and bright as well.

JEFFY: How horrific. Steve Martin.

PAT: You'd think he committed genocide on women or something.

JEFFY: I think she aspired to something higher than just being pretty. How do you want to be remembered?

These are some of the ones -- the people that were so mad at him. Unbelievable.

PAT: Can -- can her looks not be one of the things you remember?

JEFFY: No.

PAT: Okay. I guess not.

JEFFY: No!

PAT: Is it really an insult -- if Carrie Fisher were alive today, would she say that's an insult?

JEFFY: Absolutely not.

PAT: How dare you say I was beautiful! How dare you!

JEFFY: And witty. I am not. I am not witty.

PAT: I am the dullest person going. I am so dull, you couldn't get butter with me! That's how dull I am!

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Also under fire right now -- and maybe rightly so, and I've defended him in the past, Brent Musburger shouldn't broadcast anymore.

JEFFY: Oh, no. What did he do? I don't know this.

PAT: He broadcast the Sugar Bowl last night with Oklahoma. Auburn.

JEFFY: Of course. Yeah, they still have Brent hang around for one more. He's one of the sportscaster icons.

PAT: I mean, he's a good sportscaster whose time has maybe passed him by.

JEFFY: Well, that was a while ago. But they still -- they still throw him the bone for a day or two. He's been around for long enough. He's got the name recognition.

PAT: Yes, he does.

But last night, he was talking about Joe Mixon, who in public punched a woman in the face. And the video was released recently, and, you know, it's horrific. It was a couple years ago when it happened. And he got suspended for all of the 2014 season.

So then he came back, and Musburger originally said it was troubling, very troubling to see. We've talked to the coaches, and they all swear this young man is doing fine. Like I said, Oklahoma thought he might even transfer, but he sat out the suspension, reinstated.

And, folks, he's just one of the best. And let's hope, given a second chance by Bob Stoops and Oklahoma, let's hope that this young man makes the most of his chance and goes on to have a career in the National Football League.

Now, as soon as he said that, I thought, "Oh, you don't know what you just said."

JEFFY: Brent.

PAT: That is not going to go over well.

JEFFY: No, it is not.

PAT: And it didn't. And so they're getting all kinds of tweet. And they're getting all kinds of social media backlash. And people are going crazy about it.

JEFFY: I bet. I bet.

PAT: And so later in the game, he came out again and said, "Apparently some people were upset when I wished this young man well at the next level. Let me make something perfectly clear: What he did with that young lady was brutal, uncalled for. He's apologized. He was tearful." So --

JEFFY: I know. But let's -- in Brent's -- go ahead. Finish what he said to say.

PAT: -- he got a second chance. He got a second chance from Bob Stoops. I happen to pull for people with second chances. Okay? Let me make it absolutely clear that I hope he has a wonderful career and he teaches people with that brutal, violent video, okay?

No, that's not okay!

JEFFY: In today's world -- in today's world --

PAT: You can't say that.

JEFFY: -- in today's world, you can't even live. You can't live. You can't walk down the street.

PAT: Nope.

JEFFY: You can't go out of your house if you're guilty of hitting a woman.

PAT: Well, that's true.

JEFFY: If you're a sports -- any kind of sports, any kind of athlete.

PAT: Yep. Uh-huh.

JEFFY: And there's video of it.

PAT: Well, I will say this, you certainly can't be celebrated, right?

JEFFY: No. No. You cannot. No.

PAT: Musburger should have left it alone. If I were them --

JEFFY: Great run by -- how dare you. He hit his woman. You can't --

PAT: I wouldn't have even brought up the whole incident. It's in the past. You should just leave it alone. You don't wish him well when you're talking about in the same breath, he beat some woman in the face.

JEFFY: He knows better than that. He used to -- you're right though. It may be time. It may be time.

PAT: It just may be time, Brent.

JEFFY: Brent, call it in.

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PAT: Pat and Jeffy in for Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program. Threw his back out earlier. Hopefully he'll be back with us tomorrow. 888-727-BECK.

We were talking about Brent Musburger's problems last night. And this kind of follows up from, was it last year or the year before? It was a couple years ago now, right? Where he was talking about A.J. McCarron's girlfriend during the Sugar Bowl. Was it the Sugar Bowl? I don't know. One of the bowl games.

JEFFY: It was one of the --

PAT: Some Alabama game. Yeah, it was an Alabama game.

JEFFY: It might have been the SECC championship.

PAT: Possibly. But here's what he said then, which was somewhat interesting.

BRENT: Auburn. I want to admit that. But Miss Alabama -- and that's A.J. McCarron's girlfriend. Okay?

JEFFY: Oh, yeah.

BRENT: And right there on the right is Dee Dee Bonner. That's A.J.'s mother. Wow, I'm telling you, you quarterbacks, you get all the good-looking women.

JEFFY: Yeah, he sees the mom.

BRENT: What a beautiful woman. Wow.

VOICE: A.J. is doing some things right --

BRENT: So if you're a youngster in Alabama, start getting a football out and throwing it around the backyard.

(laughter)

JEFFY: You want to be a quarterback.

PAT: He got all kinds of flak for that.

JEFFY: He sure did.

PAT: I didn't think it was that bad.

JEFFY: Boy, social media, Twitter went crazy.

PAT: It went nuts. Because he's talking about, again, a beautiful woman. And I guess that's --

JEFFY: You're not allowed.

PAT: That's verboten. That's forbidden. You can't talk about --

JEFFY: You can't talk about the girl. You can't talk about the mother. You can't talk about the -- nothing.

PAT: And people made a big deal. That's a 72-year-old man talking about a 21-year-old girl.

He's not asking her for a date. He didn't try to sleep with her.

JEFFY: He's saying A.J. made a great choice.

PAT: Right.

JEFFY: And, wow, there's her mother.

PAT: And she's attractive too.

JEFFY: Yeah.

PAT: Terrible? No.

JEFFY: And then he's got Herbstreit next to him, who was a quarterback, by the way, when he said, "Wow, you quarterbacks..."

PAT: Yes. True, right.

And last night was a little different deal. It was a lot different.

Last night, he deserved some criticism. And it wasn't just the Joe Mixon thing. Sort of, you know, celebrating him and hoping he has a great career after he punched a woman in the face.

And I guess, should that -- should that end his career for all time? There's a lot of people who think so.

JEFFY: Yeah, in today's world, there's a lot of people who think you should stop existing.

PAT: Yeah. And I don't think that Brent get that at this stage. What is he? Seventy-five now?

JEFFY: Probably, yeah.

PAT: But the other thing he was doing -- I don't know how many times he called these large football players rascals.

(laughter)

That rascal. That's a big rascal.

JEFFY: That's a big one.

PAT: And the other thing he kept sayings was youngin's. These youngin's and rascals.

JEFFY: Of course.

PAT: Okay. You're not in 1956 anymore, Brent. So, again, it just might be time.

JEFFY: No. It might be time, Brent. Just to -- we love you. Okay? And every once in a while --

PAT: And I do. I think he's great.

JEFFY: Every once in a while, come back around. Maybe do a press conference at the Bowl games every once in a while. The Sugar Bowl maybe gives you a special award. You're the Sugar Bowl guy.

PAT: You're the honorary color man for the Sugar Bowl.

JEFFY: You're the guy, from here on out.

PAT: We allow you to say three things during the Sugar Bowl.

JEFFY: We allow you to say, "And the Sugar Bowl winner this year is..."

PAT: So it just might be time.

JEFFY: We'll get you a ticket. You're up in the booth, and you're good.

PAT: And I will say, it definitely is time for the Obamas.

Now, this happened a couple of weeks ago, but we were on vacation when she said it. And I couldn't believe the insensitivity of it at the time.

But it reminded me how glad I am to see these two go. When Michelle Obama sat down with Oprah and because -- and they're talking about the Trump presidency and how the left is going crazy.

And here's what Michelle Obama said.

MICHELLE: We're feeling what not having hope feels like, you know. Hope is necessary. It's a necessary concept. And Barack didn't just talk about hope because he thought it was just a nice slogan to get votes.

JEFFY: Yes, he did.

MICHELLE: I mean, he and I and so many believe that what else do you have if you don't have hope?

VOICE: Yeah.

PAT: Yeah, yeah.

MICHELLE: What do you give your kids if you can't give them hope?

PAT: I'm sorry. Was she saying that about the right, who almost lost all hope when her husband was elected, when her Marxist husband was elected in 2008? No.

JEFFY: No.

PAT: They didn't care at all what the right was feeling. They didn't -- they didn't give -- they didn't care at all about anybody but themselves. And now all of a sudden, now they see that their reaction is much the same as ours. And they have no recognition of that. None!

They are the most unaware people. These liberals and progressives apparently can't see beyond their own noses. It's just amazing.

And it's -- it's one of the reasons I'll be very happy to say goodbye to them on January 20th, regardless of who is entering the White House. Just so they're going out the other door.

JEFFY: Yeah, they're gone.

PAT: Just so they're gone.

JEFFY: And he makes a big point now of continuing to say that he's still going to be involved.

PAT: I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere.

JEFFY: Still going to be in Washington.

PAT: Yeah, he told some little girl that.

JEFFY: Going to school.

PAT: I was only paying half attention to the news cycle when we were on vacation, but he was telling some little kid, "I'm not going anywhere." Because the kid was saying how he's going to miss him and all of that. And I thought, "I don't know if I can handle it if you don't go anywhere. You need to go somewhere and just leave us alone now okay? You've done enough."

JEFFY: There's no way he does that either.

PAT: It's fascinating to watch this though because, again, they are so unaware. Paul Krugman, Nobel-winning economist and liberal New York Times columnist said that he's lost faith in the future of the United States. Now, when we were saying this in 2008 and 2012, that we were concerned about the future --

JEFFY: What!

PAT: Who do you want to take the country back from? A black man? Well, who do you want to take the country back from? A white guy? A capitalist? A -- what do you say?

In a series of tweets following Trump's expected triumph in the electoral college, Krugman seemed to be despondent with the state of the US: So it's official, and it's vile. The loser of the popular vote installed by Russian intervention, a rogue FBI, an epic media malfunction, he tweeted. We should never accept this as okay. It may be a new normal. But that's a new normal in which the America we knew and loved is gone.

It's just agonizing.

JEFFY: It sure is.

PAT: It is agonizing. Are people noticing that the Trump economic team is shaping up as a gathering of Gold bugs?

JEFFY: Wait.

PAT: What is it -- I'm not sure what that means. Goldman Sachs people I guess he's talking about?

JEFFY: Yeah.

PAT: People who are successful economically, I guess he's talking about.

JEFFY: I hate those people.

PAT: You got to hate them.

JEFFY: I hate those people that are successful.

PAT: Krugman gave the highest praise to Larry Kudlow, who is expected to be named the head of the Council of Economic Advisers. In this crew, Kudlow, who thinks it's always the 1970s, but doesn't seem to hyperinflation under his bed is the most reasonable.

Okay. Well, I mean, it -- it's fascinating to watch their machinations now. It's fascinating to watch their panic, their fear, the fact that they're all buying shelters now. They're installing these -- these self-sufficient shelters that in some cases are costing seven, ten, $15 million. Now, when we said, "Hey, you might want to store some extra food," it was crazy. It was nuts.

JEFFY: What are you talking about? Preaching the end of times?

PAT: When we were saying, "Hey, maybe it's good to have 10 percent of gold in your portfolio." I'm not talking about buying all the gold in the universe, I'm just saying maybe 10 percent of what you own.

JEFFY: Oh, how crazy are you?

PAT: You're so crazy, you're just making money. And now they're taking these incredibly drastic measures. It's perfectly fine. It's perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with it.

JEFFY: It's okay. Not crazy at all.

PAT: Now when they say the end of the world is coming because of Donald Trump, it's perfectly fine. There's no problem.

Just -- I'm not asking them not to say it. I'm just ask them to notice that you thought all of that was crazy in 2008 when we were concerned.

JEFFY: It would be nice. There's no way.

PAT: And maybe you could learn the lesson from us that, "Okay. We thought that he would -- and he did fundamentally transform America. But we thought it might be to the point to where we would even have no place in it.

I'm not sure what we thought would happen. Economic collapse. Who knows.

And he did do a lot of damage. But we survived it. And here we are.

So it would be nice if they could learn that lesson, that we thought it was going to be catastrophic when he was elected. And he's been elected to two terms. And we survived it.

We'll survive this guy, no matter what. We'll survive him.

And that's -- you know, I think that's what's given me so much hope, is that realization. After the election, I thought, "Well, you know, we've survived a lot. We survived a Marxist president."

JEFFY: Yeah.

PAT: Who I don't think even has much admiration for this country.

JEFFY: Not a chance. No way.

PAT: And somehow we got through it all. We survived his socialist program, his Obamacare. We survived the government taking over 17 percent of the economy. Now, it's made things worse. There's no doubt about that. And a lot worse. And even for people who don't have Obamacare, it's made health care extraordinarily expensive and has ruined our coverage.

We used to have the best coverage I've ever had. It has declined so much over the last few years, since Obamacare. It's almost unrecognizable now.

JEFFY: It's quite a bit different.

PAT: It's a lot different.

JEFFY: I mean, I got --

PAT: I mean, Glenn was really proud of the fact that he offered the best insurance available, and he did.

JEFFY: And he should be.

PAT: And he should be.

JEFFY: Yeah, absolutely.

PAT: Yes. But now, you can't even get that insurance anymore. You can't even get it. They won't even put the parameters into the computer because they don't have those parameters anymore.

JEFFY: It was -- as long as we're down this road. It was frustrating in our gatherings with changing of insurance that we kept here. Well, this is the best it is. This is the best --

PAT: This is really great.

JEFFY: Nobody else has got --

PAT: It was so frustrating that I had to point out to them: Yeah, well, it's not to us. Because we used to have much better. Yeah, well, that doesn't exist anymore. So...

Okay. Well, thank you, Obamacare. Appreciate it.

JEFFY: Right. And that's why Nancy Pelosi is proud to tell the Republicans, "Look, if you break Obamacare, they own it. They break it, they own it."

PAT: It's already broken.

JEFFY: No kidding. Nancy.

PAT: I've got news for Nancy Pelosi: It's been broken since day one.

JEFFY: Day one.

PAT: 888-727-BECK. More of the Glenn Beck Program coming up.

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PAT: Welcome. Pat and Jeffy. 888-727-BECK. Hopefully will be back -- feeling better tomorrow.

JEFFY: Well, if he doesn't move.

PAT: Yeah, if he doesn't move.

JEFFY: If he listens to us.

PAT: Because, again, he was sitting in a chair, doing just fine. And then moved. You can't do that.

JEFFY: How many times we say, "Sit down, don't move."

PAT: Threw out his back. Don't move. And maybe he's learned an important lesson here today.

JEFFY: I hope so. I hope so.

PAT: I sure hope so.

We were talking about the Rock Hall of Fame a little bit earlier. Who were the -- are there five or six -- there's five or six artists that have got into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame --

JEFFY: Strong.

PAT: Like Joan Baez. Who doesn't love Joan Baez?

JEFFY: I may have taken the full list down. But Tupac.

PAT: Tupac Shakur.

JEFFY: Journey.

PAT: Journey, who deserves it. ELO deserves it. And Yes.

JEFFY: Yeah.

Oh, Pearl Jam.

PAT: Oh, and Pearl Jam.

JEFFY: Pearl Jam.

PAT: So that's the other one.

Chris, in California, you're on the Glenn Beck Program.

CALLER: Hey. Absolutely.

So I think that we should probably go with Phoebe Snow. Because Phoebe Snow has got that '70s sound. We were all about '70s here, right?

JEFFY: I love Phoebe.

PAT: Poetry man? Right?

JEFFY: Come on now. Yeah.

CALLER: No, no, I was thinking more of Midnight in the Oasis.

PAT: Oh, that's Maria Muldaur.

CALLER: Oh. Maria.

JEFFY: I've got an album of Phoebe doing some covers, and she may have done that song on that album.

PAT: She might have. But nobody does it like the original done by Maria Muldaur.

JEFFY: I know. I know.

CALLER: Well, there you go.

PAT: Midnight at the Oasis.

JEFFY: Come on. Who doesn't love that song? Who doesn't love Midnight at the Oasis?

PAT: Oh, I think everybody does. I know I do.

JEFFY: Thank you. He's got a point with Phoebe Snow. I mean, Poetry Man is --

PAT: And as long as we're at it, why not put Minnie Riperton into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the one who did loving you is easy because you're beautiful.

JEFFY: I mean, there should actually be like a wing to the Rock Hall and Fame, to the one-hit greatness of songs.

PAT: Well, there's definitely a wing for rap artists. There's a wing for R&B. There's a wing for people who are just influential.

JEFFY: Yeah, to their core.

PAT: That you've never heard of. But people were influenced by them, whether they were a producer or they were a writer or they were a band that nobody's ever heard of. But bands heard of them.

JEFFY: But the iconic band came from here.

PAT: Yes. And liked them, so they're in. So why not, a one-hit wonder wing? It's -- the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a sham. It's a travashamockery. And I think we all know it.

JEFFY: So what happens? Do you change your tune if they -- if they put Foreigner in?

PAT: Well, it will help. I don't know if it will cure the disease. But it eases the pain a little.

JEFFY: It will ease the pain a little. That's just a throw-in.

PAT: But look how long it took to put Journey in. Come on. That's a no-brainer. I'm not a big Journey fan anymore because they're so overplayed. I just got sick of them. But it's Journey.

JEFFY: I'm not either, but it's Journey. It's Journey. Come on.

PAT: They sold 100 million plus.

JEFFY: It's not about that.

PAT: Chicago went in I think last year. They sold 125 million.

JEFFY: At least.

PAT: They're iconic. How do you leave those bands out? ELO just got in this year.

JEFFY: Well, so did Tupac. So that's good. That's good. Tupac is in.

PAT: Yes. And, I mean, he was shot nine times. So he should have been in a long time ago. A long time ago.

JEFFY: Right!

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What our response to Israel reveals about us

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I have been honored to receive the Defender of Israel Award from Prime Minister Netanyahu.

The Jerusalem Post recently named me one of the strongest Christian voices in support of Israel.

And yet, my support is not blind loyalty. It’s not a rubber stamp for any government or policy. I support Israel because I believe it is my duty — first as a Christian, but even if I weren’t a believer, I would still support her as a man of reason, morality, and common sense.

Because faith isn’t required to understand this: Israel’s existence is not just about one nation’s survival — it is about the survival of Western civilization itself.

It is a lone beacon of shared values in the Middle East. It is a bulwark standing against radical Islam — the same evil that seeks to dismantle our own nation from within.

And my support is not rooted in politics. It is rooted in something simpler and older than politics: a people’s moral and historical right to their homeland, and their right to live in peace.

Israel has that right — and the right to defend herself against those who openly, repeatedly vow her destruction.

Let’s make it personal: if someone told me again and again that they wanted to kill me and my entire family — and then acted on that threat — would I not defend myself? Wouldn’t you? If Hamas were Canada, and we were Israel, and they did to us what Hamas has done to them, there wouldn’t be a single building left standing north of our border. That’s not a question of morality.

That’s just the truth. All people — every people — have a God-given right to protect themselves. And Israel is doing exactly that.

My support for Israel’s right to finish the fight against Hamas comes after eighty years of rejected peace offers and failed two-state solutions. Hamas has never hidden its mission — the eradication of Israel. That’s not a political disagreement.

That’s not a land dispute. That is an annihilationist ideology. And while I do not believe this is America’s war to fight, I do believe — with every fiber of my being — that it is Israel’s right, and moral duty, to defend her people.

Criticism of military tactics is fair. That’s not antisemitism. But denying Israel’s right to exist, or excusing — even celebrating — the barbarity of Hamas? That’s something far darker.

We saw it on October 7th — the face of evil itself. Women and children slaughtered. Babies burned alive. Innocent people raped and dragged through the streets. And now, to see our own fellow citizens march in defense of that evil… that is nothing short of a moral collapse.

If the chants in our streets were, “Hamas, return the hostages — Israel, stop the bombing,” we could have a conversation.

But that’s not what we hear.

What we hear is open sympathy for genocidal hatred. And that is a chasm — not just from decency, but from humanity itself. And here lies the danger: that same hatred is taking root here — in Dearborn, in London, in Paris — not as horror, but as heroism. If we are not vigilant, the enemy Israel faces today will be the enemy the free world faces tomorrow.

This isn’t about politics. It’s about truth. It’s about the courage to call evil by its name and to say “Never again” — and mean it.

And you don’t have to open a Bible to understand this. But if you do — if you are a believer — then this issue cuts even deeper. Because the question becomes: what did God promise, and does He keep His word?

He told Abraham, “I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you.” He promised to make Abraham the father of many nations and to give him “the whole land of Canaan.” And though Abraham had other sons, God reaffirmed that promise through Isaac. And then again through Isaac’s son, Jacob — Israel — saying: “The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I give to you and to your descendants after you.”

That’s an everlasting promise.

And from those descendants came a child — born in Bethlehem — who claimed to be the Savior of the world. Jesus never rejected His title as “son of David,” the great King of Israel.

He said plainly that He came “for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” And when He returns, Scripture says He will return as “the Lion of the tribe of Judah.” And where do you think He will go? Back to His homeland — Israel.

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And what will He find when He gets there? His brothers — or his brothers’ enemies? Will the roads where He once walked be preserved? Or will they lie in rubble, as Gaza does today? If what He finds looks like the aftermath of October 7th, then tell me — what will be my defense as a Christian?

Some Christians argue that God’s promises to Israel have been transferred exclusively to the Church. I don’t believe that. But even if you do, then ask yourself this: if we’ve inherited the promises, do we not also inherit the land? Can we claim the birthright and then, like Esau, treat it as worthless when the world tries to steal it?

So, when terrorists come to slaughter Israelis simply for living in the land promised to Abraham, will we stand by? Or will we step forward — into the line of fire — and say,

“Take me instead”?

Because this is not just about Israel’s right to exist.

It’s about whether we still know the difference between good and evil.

It’s about whether we still have the courage to stand where God stands.

And if we cannot — if we will not — then maybe the question isn’t whether Israel will survive. Maybe the question is whether we will.

America’s moral erosion: How we were conditioned to accept the unthinkable

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Every time we look away from lawlessness, we tell the next mob it can go a little further.

Chicago, Portland, and other American cities are showing us what happens when the rule of law breaks down. These cities have become openly lawless — and that’s not hyperbole.

When a governor declares she doesn’t believe federal agents about a credible threat to their lives, when Chicago orders its police not to assist federal officers, and when cartels print wanted posters offering bounties for the deaths of U.S. immigration agents, you’re looking at a country flirting with anarchy.

Two dangers face us now: the intimidation of federal officers and the normalization of soldiers as street police. Accept either, and we lose the republic.

This isn’t a matter of partisan politics. The struggle we’re watching now is not between Democrats and Republicans. It’s between good and evil, right and wrong, self‑government and chaos.

Moral erosion

For generations, Americans have inherited a republic based on law, liberty, and moral responsibility. That legacy is now under assault by extremists who openly seek to collapse the system and replace it with something darker.

Antifa, well‑financed by the left, isn’t an isolated fringe any more than Occupy Wall Street was. As with Occupy, big money and global interests are quietly aligned with “anti‑establishment” radicals. The goal is disruption, not reform.

And they’ve learned how to condition us. Twenty‑five years ago, few Americans would have supported drag shows in elementary schools, biological males in women’s sports, forced vaccinations, or government partnerships with mega‑corporations to decide which businesses live or die. Few would have tolerated cartels threatening federal agents or tolerated mobs doxxing political opponents. Yet today, many shrug — or cheer.

How did we get here? What evidence convinced so many people to reverse themselves on fundamental questions of morality, liberty, and law? Those long laboring to disrupt our republic have sought to condition people to believe that the ends justify the means.

Promoting “tolerance” justifies women losing to biological men in sports. “Compassion” justifies harboring illegal immigrants, even violent criminals. Whatever deluded ideals Antifa espouses is supposed to somehow justify targeting federal agents and overturning the rule of law. Our culture has been conditioned for this moment.

The buck stops with us

That’s why the debate over using troops to restore order in American cities matters so much. I’ve never supported soldiers executing civilian law, and I still don’t. But we need to speak honestly about what the Constitution allows and why. The Posse Comitatus Act sharply limits the use of the military for domestic policing. The Insurrection Act, however, exists for rare emergencies — when federal law truly can’t be enforced by ordinary means and when mobs, cartels, or coordinated violence block the courts.

Even then, the Constitution demands limits: a public proclamation ordering offenders to disperse, transparency about the mission, a narrow scope, temporary duration, and judicial oversight.

Soldiers fight wars. Cops enforce laws. We blur that line at our peril.

But we also cannot allow intimidation of federal officers or tolerate local officials who openly obstruct federal enforcement. Both extremes — lawlessness on one side and militarization on the other — endanger the republic.

The only way out is the Constitution itself. Protect civil liberty. Enforce the rule of law. Demand transparency. Reject the temptation to justify any tactic because “our side” is winning. We’ve already seen how fear after 9/11 led to the Patriot Act and years of surveillance.

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Two dangers face us now: the intimidation of federal officers and the normalization of soldiers as street police. Accept either, and we lose the republic. The left cannot be allowed to shut down enforcement, and the right cannot be allowed to abandon constitutional restraint.

The real threat to the republic isn’t just the mobs or the cartels. It’s us — citizens who stop caring about truth and constitutional limits. Anything can be justified when fear takes over. Everything collapses when enough people decide “the ends justify the means.”

We must choose differently. Uphold the rule of law. Guard civil liberties. And remember that the only way to preserve a government of, by, and for the people is to act like the people still want it.

This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.

In the quiet aftermath of a profound loss, the Christian community mourns the unexpected passing of Dr. Voddie Baucham, a towering figure in evangelical circles. Known for his defense of biblical truth, Baucham, a pastor, author, and theologian, left a legacy on family, faith, and opposing "woke" ideologies in the church. His book Fault Lines challenged believers to prioritize Scripture over cultural trends. Glenn had Voddie on the show several times, where they discussed progressive influences in Christianity, debunked myths of “Christian nationalism,” and urged hope amid hostility.

The shock of Baucham's death has deeply affected his family. Grieving, they remain hopeful in Christ, with his wife, Bridget, now facing the task of resettling in the US without him. Their planned move from Lusaka, Zambia, was disrupted when their home sale fell through last December, resulting in temporary Airbnb accommodations, but they have since secured a new home in Cape Coral that requires renovations. To ensure Voddie's family is taken care of, a fundraiser is being held to raise $2 million, which will be invested for ongoing support, allowing Bridget to focus on her family.

We invite readers to contribute prayerfully. If you feel called to support the Bauchams in this time of need, you can click here to donate.

We grieve and pray with hope for the Bauchams.

May Voddie's example inspire us.

Loneliness isn’t just being alone — it’s feeling unseen, unheard, and unimportant, even amid crowds and constant digital chatter.

Loneliness has become an epidemic in America. Millions of people, even when surrounded by others, feel invisible. In tragic irony, we live in an age of unparalleled connectivity, yet too many sit in silence, unseen and unheard.

I’ve been experiencing this firsthand. My children have grown up and moved out. The house that once overflowed with life now echoes with quiet. Moments that once held laughter now hold silence. And in that silence, the mind can play cruel games. It whispers, “You’re forgotten. Your story doesn’t matter.”

We are unique in our gifts, but not in our humanity. Recognizing this shared struggle is how we overcome loneliness.

It’s a lie.

I’ve seen it in others. I remember sitting at Rockefeller Center one winter, watching a woman lace up her ice skates. Her clothing was worn, her bag battered. Yet on the ice, she transformed — elegant, alive, radiant.

Minutes later, she returned to her shoes, merged into the crowd, unnoticed. I’ve thought of her often. She was not alone in her experience. Millions of Americans live unseen, performing acts of quiet heroism every day.

Shared pain makes us human

Loneliness convinces us to retreat, to stay silent, to stop reaching out to others. But connection is essential. Even small gestures — a word of encouragement, a listening ear, a shared meal — are radical acts against isolation.

I’ve learned this personally. Years ago, a caller called me “Mr. Perfect.” I could have deflected, but I chose honesty. I spoke of my alcoholism, my failed marriage, my brokenness. I expected judgment. Instead, I found resonance. People whispered back, “I’m going through the same thing. Thank you for saying it.”

Our pain is universal. Everyone struggles with self-doubt and fear. Everyone feels, at times, like a fraud. We are unique in our gifts, but not in our humanity. Recognizing this shared struggle is how we overcome loneliness.

We were made for connection. We were built for community — for conversation, for touch, for shared purpose. Every time we reach out, every act of courage and compassion punches a hole in the wall of isolation.

You’re not alone

If you’re feeling alone, know this: You are not invisible. You are seen. You matter. And if you’re not struggling, someone you know is. It’s your responsibility to reach out.

Loneliness is not proof of brokenness. It is proof of humanity. It is a call to engage, to bear witness, to connect. The world is different because of the people who choose to act. It is brighter when we refuse to be isolated.

We cannot let silence win. We cannot allow loneliness to dictate our lives. Speak. Reach out. Connect. Share your gifts. By doing so, we remind one another: We are all alike, and yet each of us matters profoundly.

In this moment, in this country, in this world, what we do matters. Loneliness is real, but so is hope. And hope begins with connection.

This article originally appeared on TheBlaze.com.