Iraqi priest shares harrowing experience at the hands of Islamic captors

November 24, 2015

Editor

During his radio program Tuesday, Glenn spoke with Father Douglas Al-Bazi, a priest from Iraq who watched his own church blow up in front of him before being kidnapped and tortured by terrorists. He now hosts hundreds of displaced Christians in a refugee camp he founded in Iraqi Kurdistan, called "The Church of Martyrs."

Father Douglas called for listeners to "please pray for my community" after describing how he is preparing to help many of them leave their homeland and seek refuge outside of the Middle East. These rescue efforts could only be accomplished thanks to the thousands of generous donors to the Nazarene Fund.

"I told the people, I know we're going to start this --- this journey is like Moses," Father Douglas said. "But actually Moses in himself, he believed that 'I'm going to the Promising Land. Even me, I will not see the Promising Land. But I'm going to prepare it for our kids.'"

Tonight on his TV program, Glenn will give a sneak peek at an American Dream Labs (ADL) documentary film about the plight of Christian refugees in the Middle East. Watch a clip of Father Douglas describe how he responded to the torture he endured at the hands of ISIS.

Listen to more of Glenn's conversation with Father Douglas or read the transcript below.

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

How many ISIS members are Christian? The answer is zero. So how do you know who the good guys or the bad guys are?

Well, you start with the parish priest. You go find one guy. The one guy we found is Father Douglas. This is an amazing man that I want you to meet. He's over in the area right now. He is the pastor of -- you ask him what his church is, it's the Church of Martyrs. The Church of Blood. And he has set up his own refugee camp, and these are the people that we are bringing back in. The Nazarene Fund has raised now $12 million. That money is going to take and rescue many of his people. And he's on the phone with us now. Father, how are you?

FATHER DOUGLAS: Good. How are you? Thank you very much for this introduction of me. I'm just pleased. Okay? Not amazing. Not a hero. Nothing. Okay?

GLENN: Yes, sir.

You are -- A, you're a hard guy to get a hold of because you won't really sit down for an interview or go out to lunch or anything because you've told our team several times, I'm on God's time, I'm on God's work.

Are you in a car right now? Are you in the middle of a surgery for somebody or anything? Because you usually don't set aside a time to --

(laughter)

FATHER DOUGLAS: No. Actually now I'm in my office. I locked my door. I'm locked inside because I want to hear you very well.

GLENN: Okay.

FATHER DOUGLAS: So maybe many people -- kids, they will knock on the door, just to look at where I am. Okay? Yes.

GLENN: Father, would you do us a favor and tell us, you were taken hostage, and it is a pretty harrowing story. Can you tell us that story a bit?

FATHER DOUGLAS: You know, when we talk about a story, we talk always with the beginning and the end. But, you know, when we talk about persecution and pain because there is something we have here actually (inaudible). So we are not talking about the story, we are talking about lives. And we used to -- I'm sorry to say that, but some of the same situation -- and this is actually taken back many centuries.

And me, as the personal, I grew out a lot of events in my life, and they were really horrible events. But when I mention them, I always tell my people when I talk about what happened to me, I don't want you to feel sorry about me. But I want you to just open your eyes to what happened to my people.

Because I often say that, even when I went also to the United States this summer, and before in Europe, I told them, "I know that -- I believe that your kids, they're not going to be a member of ISIS. But there will be -- sooner or later, they're going to be victims by ISIS. So open your eyes and wake up."

What happened to me actually, I survived twice by bombed cars. They attacked my church one time. They blew up my church in front of me. One time, they were a group -- they wanted to kill me, and they shoot me. But they -- I just got shot in my (cut out) by an AK-47, and after that, I was taken up for nine days. Those nine days, of course, I cannot forget them because they were -- changed a lot me, as personal, my ambition, and my ways.

And those nine days there, I went out with completely -- they assault my nose -- by hammer, they broke my -- my cheeks. And also, they picked me -- my back. So that's why I went to -- to have a big surgery in my back because I changed one of the discs in my back. I spent almost one year in bed. And now I'm using actually fake teeth. When I smile, just -- those fake teeth, they're good for, you know, just taking photo. A selfie, you know, on phone or Facebook.

(laughter)

But just to keep my smile, you know.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Hold on. Hold on just a second. Because I just want to translate in case anybody hasn't been able to keep up with this. He's talking about how, you know, he's humble and he doesn't want anybody to pay attention to what's happening. And he's butchering this story, and we're going to have this tonight on television where we sat down with him. And we have the story. And we reenacted the story. And it is -- I'm telling you, it is hair-raising and terrifying. They took him. They kidnapped him and put him in the trunk of a car. Kidnapped him. Took him out. Beat him with a hammer in the face for nine solid days. Broke his back. Really, really broke him up. But did not break his spirit. In fact, all the way along, he was actually counseling them on how to live their life.

Tell me the story about how they would come to you during the day. At night, they would beat you and torture you. During the day, they would come to you for spiritual advice.

FATHER DOUGLAS: Yeah. During the day, actually even with my eyes, they were covered because it was forbidden for me to see anything for nine days. And also, my hands, they were tied by chains.

But during the day, they used to come and ask me a private question or a general question. A private question, when one of them, he asked -- actually many of them asked me. "I have a question for you. My friends to go away. And I want to ask you a personal question."

Such as, one of them, I remember very well, he asked about, you know, about his wife. And he told me, she's always, you know, picky, demanding, and how can I deal with her? So just imagine I'm this way and tell her -- tell him, you know, "You have to tell her that you really love her. And every day, this is the law. Every day, you have to show the love to her."

And then he asked me another and another. And this happened during the day. But most people, the same people actually, during the night, during the night, they just change from sheep to wolves.

GLENN: How did you --

FATHER DOUGLAS: Yeah.

GLENN: How did you during the day -- must you ever want to say to them, "What is wrong with you, man?"

FATHER DOUGLAS: Speak it again, sir.

GLENN: Didn't you during the day want to point out, "Remember the conversation we were having earlier today when I was a human being, how are you beating me now?"

FATHER DOUGLAS: You mean, how was my day?

GLENN: No. I'm trying to figure out how to explain this.

How did you -- how did you figure out in your own head how there seemed to be two people, sheep and wolves, but they were the same individual. How did you rectify that in your head?

FATHER DOUGLAS: You know, it happened from the first day actually. The first day they asked me -- they told me, this is who we are. We're (foreign language) or (foreign language).

And, you know, a question like that when it's heard, immediately you will lose your life if you just, you know, answer in wrong ways.

So I remember the first day I told them, "Actually, I feel sorry about you because if any one of you has this chance in his life, in all life, to continue the school and to have certificate or degree, so any one of you will be like professor and doctor or, I know, engineer. But because you went to school, for I don't know what the reason, that's why many people will use you and now you are like gangs, but used by religious ways."

And, you know, they were really shocked. And they were, you know, silent. Almost two minutes, three minutes. And they start to talk to me each one what happened to him when he was a child. And so I know that actually, when there is no education, you can control the people. But people when they have really education, knowledge, so they can look nice. But without education, people, they will completely be lost.

And even the people that are not believing God, even if they -- many met them, a lot of Christians, even here in my parish, no one actually has chance to study like philosophy or theology. But, you know, the human thing -- the spiritual thing is love. But most people, really I feel sorry about them. They are completely blind. That's what I'm saying.

GLENN: Father Douglas Al-Bazi.

FATHER DOUGLAS: But when -- during the night, they became wolves because they were happy to obey to another guy. Okay? If they are not going to obey, they will be also killed.

GLENN: Father, how have you prepared your people to be rescued and leave their homeland and leave the church that they've grown up? How have you prepared them for this?

FATHER DOUGLAS: You know, I wish -- actually, I can't believe (inaudible) -- even we are proud because we are Iraqian. But Europe is not proud because we are part of this.

In any case, our land is actually with Jesus. Our land, it is him. So when we have that love and justice, we can create any land to be prepared for our community. And it is easy to us to prepare and build communities again, but to build is the man. To build human people, such as like the people here and around, it's really hard.

But I told the people, I know we're going to start this -- this is the journey, is like Moses. But actually Moses in himself, he believed that I'm going to the Promising Land. Even me, I will not see the Promising Land. But I'm going to prepare it for our kids. So --

GLENN: Will you see --

FATHER DOUGLAS: So to myself, to Father Douglas, I am telling every day to myself, "What are you going to do if it's not a benefit for you, if it's for the next generation?" So we it's tougher on ourselves to make the next generation to be safe. This will be our Promising Land.

GLENN: Father Douglas Al-Bazi, thank you so much. We will talk to you again. And hopefully we will some day get to shake hands and hug and meet one-on-one. Thank you so much. God bless you.

FATHER DOUGLAS: Pray -- please pray for my community.

GLENN: Yes, sir. God bless you.

FATHER DOUGLAS: Thank you. Thank -- thank you, sir. Thank you.

GLENN: More on him in just a minute. And you're going to see an amazing show done. Tonight's broadcast at 5 o'clock was produced by American Dream Labs. And it's a very different episode. And we sent our cameras over to sit with him and he's much easier to understand when you can watch him.

It is one of the most amazing stories you will ever see. And we're going to clip the part of him out of -- it's about four minutes from our visit over with him. And make that available so you can spread that. I mean, it's truly amazing. He prayed the rosary in chains. And he made his chains the rosary. He is a remarkable, remarkable man. I want to watch tonight's really inspiring episode at 5 o'clock on TheBlaze TV.church on martyrs. Church of Martyrs.

The Deep State's NEW plan to backstab Trump

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We cannot make the same mistake we made in 2016 — celebrating victory while the deep state plots its next move.

In 2016, Donald Trump shocked the world by defeating Hillary Clinton. Conservatives cheered, believing we’d taken back the reins of our country. But we missed the bigger battle. We failed to recognize the extent of the damage caused by eight years of Barack Obama and decades of progressive entrenchment. The real war isn’t won at the ballot box. It’s being waged against an insidious force embedded deep within our institutions: the administrative state, or the “deep state.”

This isn’t a new problem. America’s founders foresaw it, though they didn’t have a term for “deep state” back in the 1700s. James Madison, in Federalist 48, warned us that combining legislative, executive, and judicial powers in the same hands is “the very definition of tyranny.” Yet today, that’s exactly where we stand. Unelected bureaucrats in agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, and the Department of Justice hold more power than the officials we vote for. They control the levers of government with impunity, dictating policies and stifling change.

This is the fight for the soul of our nation. The founders’ vision of a constitutional republic is under siege.

We’ve felt the consequences of this growing tyranny firsthand. During COVID-19, so-called experts ran our lives, crushing civil liberties under the guise of public safety. Our intelligence agencies and justice system turned into weapons of political warfare, targeting a sitting president and his supporters. Meanwhile, actual criminals were given a pass, turning American cities into lawless war zones.

Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1816 that “the functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents.” Today, we see Jefferson’s prophecy fulfilled. The deep state exercises unchecked power over our freedoms, and information itself is controlled by the fourth branch of government: the legacy media.

Even when we win elections, the deep state doesn’t concede defeat. It switches to survival mode. Trump’s first term proved this. Despite a historic mandate to dismantle the bureaucracy, the deep state fought back with everything it had: leaks, investigations, court rulings, and obstruction at every turn. And now, with the possibility of Trump returning to office, the deep state is preparing to do it again.

Progressives are laying out their attack plan — and they’re not even hiding it.

U.S. Rep. Wiley Nickel (D-N.C.) recently boasted about forming a “shadow cabinet” to govern alongside the deep state, regardless of who’s in the White House. Nickel called it “democracy’s insurance policy.” Let’s be clear: This isn’t insurance. It’s sabotage.

They’ll employ a “top down, bottom up, inside out” strategy to overwhelm and collapse any effort to reform the system. From the top, federal judges and shadow officials will block Trump’s every move. Governors in blue states like California and New York are gearing up to resist federal authority. During Trump’s first term, California filed over 100 lawsuits against his administration. Expect more of the same starting January 20.

From the bottom, progressive groups like the American Civil Liberties Union will flood the streets with protesters, much as they did to oppose Trump’s first-term immigration reforms. They’ve refined their tactics since 2016 and are prepared to unleash a wave of civil unrest. These aren’t spontaneous movements; they’re coordinated assaults designed to destabilize the administration.

Finally, from the inside, the deep state will continue its mission of self-preservation. Agencies will drag their feet, leak sensitive information, and undermine policies from within. Their goal is to make everything a chaotic mess, so the heart of their power — the bureaucratic core — remains untouched and grows stronger.

We cannot make the same mistake we made in 2016 — celebrating victory while the deep state plots its next move. Progressives never see themselves as losing. When they’re out of power, they simply shift tactics, pumping more blood into their bureaucratic heart. We may win elections, but the war against the deep state will only intensify. As George Washington warned in his Farewell Address, “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force; and force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

This is the fight for the soul of our nation. The founders’ vision of a constitutional republic is under siege. The deep state has shown us its plan: to govern from the shadows, circumventing the will of the people. But now that the shadows have been exposed, we have a choice. Will we accept this silent tyranny, or will we demand accountability and reclaim our nation’s heart?

The battle is just beginning. We can’t afford to lose.

Editor's Note: This article was originally published on TheBlaze.com.

Drone mystery exposes GLARING government incompetence

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The drone issue is getting way out of hand.

Earlier this month, Glenn first reported on the mysterious drones stalking the night sky over New Jersey, but the situation is increasingly concerning as the sightings have escalated. Not only have drones been seen across the Northeast Coast, including over New York City, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, but recently, they have been spotted over the night skies of San Diego and other parts of Southern California.

It doesn't take an expert to identify the potential dangers and risks that dozens of undetectable, unidentified six-foot or larger drones pose to national security. Yet, our government's response has been one of unimaginable incompetence, leaving us to speculate on the origin and intention of these drones and wonder in astonishment at the government's ineptitude. Here are three examples of the government's lackluster response to the mystery drones:

Iranian Mothership and Missing Nuclear Warheads

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After several weeks of hubbub, New Jersey Representative, Jeff Van Drew gave an interview on Fox News where he claimed that the drones originated from an Iranian "mothership" off the East Coast of the United States. This theory has since been disproven by satellite images, which show that all Iranian drone carriers are far from U.S. shores. Another theory suggests that drones may be equipped with sensors capable of detecting nuclear material and that they are looking for a nuclear warhead that recently went missing! With these apocalyptic theories gaining traction in the absence of any real answer from our government, one can't help but question the motive behind the silence.

Pentagon's Limp Wristed Response

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In a recent press conference, national security spokesman John Kirby responded to reporters demanding answers about the government's lack of transparency, which has caused increasing public anxiety. He insisted that the drones did not pose a threat and were not assets of a foreign power, such as from Iran or China--even though he is still uncertain about their identity and origin. He also claimed that many of the sightings were simply misidentifications of normal aircraft.

This lackluster answer has only further inflamed national anxieties and raised even more questions. If the government is unsure of the identity of the drones, how do they know if they are a threat or if they aren't foreign assets? If they aren't foreign, does that mean they are U.S. assets? If so, why not just say so?

The Pentagon has also stated that they are leaving it up to local law enforcement to spearhead the investigation after concluding that these drones pose no threat to any military installation. This has left many feeling like the federal government has turned a blind eye to a serious issue that many Americans are very concerned about.

Where's Pete Buttigieg?

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We are in the closing weeks of the Biden administration, and with the finish line in sight, Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg probably figured nothing else could go wrong on his watch—but boy was he wrong. As Secretary of Transportation, Buttigieg is in charge of the FAA, the agency responsible for managing all air traffic across the nation. One would think that mysterious, 6-foot-long, seemingly intractable drones are invisible on radar and flying above major cities would pose a serious threat to the myriad of legal aircraft that traverse our skies. Yet, Buttigieg has been silent on the issue, adding another failure to his resume which includes: malfunctioning airplanes, the train derailment in Ohio, and the Baltimore Key Bridge collapse, just to name a few.

Glenn: How Alvin Bragg turned hero Daniel Penny into a villain

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We cannot allow corrupt institutions to punish those who act to protect life and liberty.

America no longer has a single, shared understanding of justice. Two Americas now exist, each applying justice differently depending on who you are and where you live. One America, ruled by common sense and individual courage, praises heroes who stand up to protect others. The other, driven by political agendas and corrupted institutions, punishes those same heroes for daring to act.

This stark division couldn’t be clearer than in the case of Daniel Penny, the Marine whose trial in New York City this week drew strong reactions from both sides across the divided line of justice.

If we let this slide, we accept a world in which heroes are treated as criminals and the law is a weapon for ideological warfare.

Penny was on a subway train last year when Jordan Neely — a man suffering from severe mental illness and reportedly high on drugs — began threatening passengers, saying, “I’m going to kill you all.” The fear on that subway car was palpable, but nobody moved. Nobody, that is, until Penny did what needed to be done. He took action to protect innocent lives.

In the America many of us used to believe in, Penny’s response would be heralded as heroic. His actions mirrored the courage of Todd Beamer on Flight 93, who, on September 11, 2001, rallied others with the words, “Let’s roll,” to prevent further tragedy. But in New York, courage doesn’t seem to count anymore. There, the system turns heroes into villains.

Penny subdued Neely using a chokehold, intending only to restrain him, not kill him. Tragically, Neely died. Penny, filled with remorse, told the police he never meant to hurt anyone. Yet, instead of being recognized for protecting others from a clear and present threat, Penny stood trial for criminally negligent homicide.

In Alvin Bragg’s New York, justice bends to ideology. The Manhattan district attorney has made a career of weaponizing the law, selectively prosecuting those who don’t fit his narrative. He’s the same prosecutor who twisted legal precedent to go after Donald Trump on business charges no one had ever faced before. Then, he turned his sights on Daniel Penny.

A jury may have acquitted Penny, but what happened in New York City this week isn’t justice. When the rule of law changes depending on the defendant’s identity or the prosecutor's political motives, we’re no longer living in a free country. We’re living in a state where justice is a game, and ordinary Americans are the pawns.

The system failed Jordan Neely

It’s worth asking: Where were activists like Alvin Bragg when Neely was suffering on the streets? Jordan Neely was a tragic figure — a man with a long history of mental illness and over 40 arrests, including violent assaults. The system failed him long before he stepped onto that subway train. Yet rather than confront that uncomfortable truth, Bragg’s office decided to target the man who stepped in to prevent a tragedy.

This isn’t about justice. It’s about power. It’s about advancing a narrative where race and identity matter more than truth and common sense.

It’s time to demand change

The Daniel Penny case — and others like it — is a wake-up call. We cannot allow corrupt institutions to punish those who act to protect life and liberty. Americans must demand an end to politically driven prosecutions, hold DAs like Alvin Bragg accountable, and stand up for the principle that true justice is blind, consistent, and fair.

If we let this slide, we accept a world in which heroes are treated as criminals and the law is a weapon for ideological warfare. It’s time to choose which America we want to live in.

Editor's Note: This article was originally published on TheBlaze.com.

CEO Brian Thompson's killer reveals COWARDICE of the far-left death cult

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Early on the chilly morning of Wednesday, December 4th, Brian Thompson, CEO of health insurance giant, UnitedHealthcare, was walking through Midtown Manhattan on his way to a company conference. Suddenly, a masked and hooded figure silently allegedly stepped onto the sidewalk behind Thompson, drew a 3-D printed, silenced pistol, and without warning fired multiple shots into Thompson's back before fleeing the scene on an electric bicycle. After a multiple-day manhunt, a 26-year-old lead suspect was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania after being recognized by an employee.

This was not "vigilante justice." This was cold-blooded murder.

As horrific as the murder of a husband and father in broad daylight in the center of New York City is, the story only gets worse. Even before the murder suspect was arrested, left-wing extremists were already taking to X to call him a "hero" and a "vigilante" who "took matters into his own hands." Even the mainstream media joined in on the glorification, as Glenn pointed out on air recently, going out of the way to show how physically attractive the murder suspect was. This wave of revolting and nihilistic fanfare came in response to the findings of online investigators who surmised the murder suspect's motives to retaliate against healthcare companies for corruption and denied coverage. The murder suspect supposedly underwent a major back surgery that left him with back pain, and some of his internet fans apparently viewed his murder of Thompson as retribution for the mistreatment that he and many other Americans have suffered from healthcare companies.

me liking tweets celebrating the assassination of the united healthcare ceo pic.twitter.com/N41w51ZuZR
— 🔻 (@pegasustits) December 5, 2024

The murder suspect and his lackeys don't seem to understand that, other than depriving two children of their father right before Christmas, he accomplished nothing.

The murder suspect failed to achieve his goal because he was too cowardly to try.

If the murder suspect's goals were truly to "right the wrongs" of the U.S. healthcare system, he had every tool available to him to do so in a constructive and meaningful manner. He came from a wealthy and prominent family in the Baltimore area, became the valedictorian at a prestigious all-boys prep school, and graduated from the University of Pennsylvania with a master's in engineering. Clearly, the murder suspect was intelligent and capable, and if he had put his talent into creating solutions for the healthcare industry, who knows what he could have accomplished?

This is the kind of behavior the far-left idolizes, like communists on college campuses who wear shirts that celebrate the brutal Cuban warlord, Che Guevara. Merchandise celebrating the UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect is already available, including shirts, hoodies, mugs, and even Christmas ornaments. Will they be sporting his face on their T-shirts too?

A liberal TikToker is selling a t-shirt that glorifies the recent assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in NYC.
“deny , defend, depose” was reported to have been on the shell casings. pic.twitter.com/IWpHYkx2lF
— SteveSant66 🇺🇸 (@SSant66) December 8, 2024

This macabre behavior does not breed creation, achievement, success, or life. It only brings death and risks more Americans falling into this dangerous paradigm. But we still have a chance to choose life. We just have to wake up and take it.

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