Michelle Malkin explodes myths about cheap foreign labor and American layoffs in new book

Joining Glenn on his radio program Monday, author and commentator Michelle Malkin tore into what she termed the "crapweasels" who are "screwing America's best and brightest workers."

Malkin shared with Glenn how her newest book exposes the lies perpetrated by high-tech billionaires and others who pretend to champion the middle class while aiding and abetting massive layoffs of highly skilled American workers in favor of cheap foreign labor.

"Here you have Google and Facebook and Microsoft and Bill Gates marching up on Capitol Hill and having his ring kissed - not just by Democrats, but by the likes of Orrin Hatch - pleading that they need more of these cheap foreign workers because there's an American worker shortage," Malkin said. "It's about exploiting our immigration and entrance policies for their own personal and private gain."

The name of the book is SOLD OUT: How High-Tech Billionaires and Bipartisan Beltway Crapweasels Are Screwing America’s Best and Brightest Workers.

At one point in the interview, Glenn turned the conversation to politics.

"So you're saying Trump is your guy?" he asked.

Watch the highlight for Malkin's response.

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GLENN: Michelle Malkin is amazing. She's one of the more intelligent people on our side. I'm glad she is on our side. And she is just a machine. And I'm just looking at her book. And she's got about 100 pages of -- of footnotes in this book. About crap weasels. Which I think is a -- it's my new favorite word. And Michelle Malkin is here. The book is called Sold Out. Hi, Michelle, how are you?

MICHELLE: Good. How are you, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm very good.

I want you to talk to you a little about your book, but I want you to tie it into politics as well. Because what you're talking about here is being talked about all the time when it comes to immigration. And you're talking about how these high-tech billionaires and the politicians are selling the American worker out.

MICHELLE: Well, they are. And for the longest time, people were not talking about it, largely because there's collusion between open borders journalists who are essentially water carriers and propagandists for people who don't believe in putting America first. Collusion along with the water carriers on Capitol Hill who pocket a lot of money from high-tech billionaires and other special interests. We've talked about the national US chamber of commerce many times, Glenn. They're a huge part of this as well. But I think that high-skilled workers, these are our best and brightest in fields like science, technology, engineering, mathematics, information technology, have got the short end of the stick in so much of these presidential election cycles. And it really only is recently because there are so many cases and so many stories now breaking out into the headlines, which we document right off the bat in the introduction. Tens and tens of thousands of high-skilled American workers who are being laid off and forced to essentially dig their own graves, forced by American companies who are really American companies in name only, to agree to train these low-wage mediocre tech workers largely from India who come here, soak up all the knowledge that our American workers are forced to give them, and then go back and offshore those jobs right outside of our country.

Who does that benefit? Well, it benefits a lot of these Silicon Valley CEOs and many of the special interests, which we document quite heavily, as you mentioned in the book

GLENN: Give me an example. Because I know right at the very beginning, I mean, you want to talk about one that is right current with the headlines. Right at the very beginning, you talk about Disney.

MICHELLE: Yes. And this is a story that was broken by a very, very good reporter at Computer World, Patrick Thibodeau, and then belatedly picked up by the New York Times, finally piercing the conscience of most of the mainstream media which has looked the other way. And at Disney, there were many, many workers who were called in. They felt that they were going to be rewarded after performing very exceptionally on IT projects. These are information technology workers and then were informed that they were being sacked and that they were going to have to train their replacements who were coming from an offshore outsourcing firm from India. And we name a lot of the names of these companies that are not widely known by the public. Firms like Cognizant, Infosys, and Tata, which have been doing this for decades now.

And these are the companies that soak up a lot of these so-called H-1B visas that people like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg march on Capitol Hill and demand more and more from. And why is that? It's because they can replace high-skilled American workers with these cheaper inferior replacements. And they have an insatiable pipeline to a foreign cheap worker supply that goes really unmonitored and unenforced when it comes to the basic American worker protections, which were originally built into the law in 1990.

And my coauthor, John Miano, has seen does this firsthand on the ground. He's an incredible guy. He was a software engineer who was affected by these H-1B racket policies who then decided he wasn't just going to sit on the sidelines. He went back to school. Went to law school. And now represents American high-skilled workers who have been harmed by these programs.

And, in fact, he has two lawsuits right now that are going through the courts. He's had a measure of success in trying to hold accountable, not just liberal Democrats and the Obama administration, but previous to that, the George W. Bush administration which was also responsible for taking basically the concept of administrative amnesty and expanding by executive fiat these visa programs without any public input and without any congressional deliberation. It's an outrage. And people need to know about it.

GLENN: You talk about George Soros, you talk about Michael Bloomberg, but you also talk about one of my favorite people, Grover Norquist.

MICHELLE: Oh, yes. Of course, he's quite in the middle of all of the dirty double dealing and sabotage and betrayal of American workers. His name has long been attached to efforts to pass massive illegal alien amnesties. But what a lot of people don't know is that he's been in the middle of trying to expand a lot of the guest worker racket programs as well.

And so in a chapter that we called Legion of Doom, we traced the entire money trail, and as you mentioned -- I think this is very interesting and people need to know about it because it's very germane to the presidential campaign cycle and the G.O.P. candidates -- George Soros funded something called the National Immigration Forum, which has long pressed for opposing tracking and deporting visa overstayers, opposing employer sanctions, and vastly expanding these guest worker programs.

Well, there were a lot of left-wing immigration lawyers that were behind this. And they hooked up with people like Grover Norquist, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Cato Institute, Spencer Abraham, who was essentially Marco Rubio version 1.0 back in the 1990s, whose legislative director was Cesar Conda, who ended up working for Marco Rubio as well.

There's the Abramoff connections here as well. And it's sickening when you read all the details about the dirty backroom deals that sabotage true immigration enforcement measures that would have protected not only the American economy and the American workers, but American national security as well.

GLENN: So, Michelle, let's switch to the politics here a little bit. And tell us -- I mean, you just brought up Marco Rubio. Is there anybody in the field that you trust with this stuff?

MICHELLE: (sighing). Well, you know, my issues with Donald Trump have been well-known. He called me some nasty names a couple of years ago because I disagreed vehemently with his cheerleading of eminent domain. Anyone who is a limited government conservative was disgusted by the kind of property rights violations that were brought up in the Kelo case and the expansive use of government to confiscate people's private property so that public subsidies are used to do everything from fund private mall garages to casinos.

And obviously I -- I have a lot of reservations. But despite all that, the one thing that that man is doing right is listening to Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions is a leader out there on Capitol Hill. One of the few who actually speaks to the anxieties and concerns of American workers. Why is it that in all of these G.O.P. debates about jobs and economy, you never hear these establishment donorist class candidates -- Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush -- actually address the impact that these open borders policies are having on American high-skilled workers.

There are roughly 11.4 million out of 15 million Americans who have so-called STEM degrees who are not working in those fields because of this H-1B rackets. And here you have Google and Facebook and Microsoft and Bill Gates marching up on Capitol Hill and having his ring kissed, not just by Democrats, but by the likes of Orrin Hatch, pleading that they need more of these cheap foreign workers because there's an American worker shortage, a tech worker crisis, at the time that Google brags that there are 1,000 applications for every one of its openings. They're lying to you. It's about their special interests. It's about lining their pockets. It's about exploiting our immigration and entrance policies for their own personal and private gain.

GLENN: So you're saying Trump is your guy?

(chuckles)

MICHELLE: What I would like to see is every G.O.P. candidate do what Donald Trump has done and listen to Jeff Sessions. I don't understand why someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for and have said many positive things about over the campaign because I believe he's a man of principle, Ted Cruz, turned around and advocated for the quintupling of H-1B visas. It makes absolutely no sense.

GLENN: Have you talked to him about it?

MICHELLE: I have not. And I'm going to make sure that each and every one of these candidates has a copy of our book. In fact, what I would like to see every one of the 535 public representatives on Capitol Hill have a copy of the book. In large part, I think that this is a huge educational and almost evangelical mission on the part of my author, John Miano, and I to make sure that people know what the heck they're talking about.

There are a lot of misconceptions and myths that we clear up, starting with this myth of the so-called American tech worker shortage, which is one of the -- one of the mainstays, the cornerstones of open borders propaganda, which is absolutely false. Every independent researcher and academic out there will tell you that there is no American worker tech worker shortage. And yet this is being used -- and even -- you know, even far-flung aspects of this debate. And it's another aspect of which we've talked about a lot, which is the connection to -- to even things like Common Core. Why is it that Bill Gates has spent hundreds of millions of dollars shilling for Common Core? Why? Because he needs it to perpetuate the myth that there aren't enough high-skilled, smart American workers to do these jobs. He just doesn't want to pay them what they need to be paid.

GLENN: So is that what it is? This is more of money than ideology?

MICHELLE: Well, I think it's both. And, clearly, from the Legion of Doom chapter where we talk about many of these DC front groups, you've got this bizarro alliance between far left progressives like Soros and people who are supposed to be -- supposed to be limited government advocates who believe in American sovereignty, many groups that will shock you, and many so-called mainstream Republicans who are on board with this agenda. Clearly there's some ideological deal going on there where the far left and the big business right meet.

But, you know, ultimately, I think obviously it is about the bottom line and dollars.

And I'll tell you, one of the things that really chafes my hide, Glenn, is when these people tell me that I do not believe in a free market, when it's the likes of Google and Apple and their acolytes on Capitol Hill who are conspiring to rig the market. That's what these H-1B programs and a number of other guest worker programs are all about. It's about fixing the game for their special interests.

GLENN: Michelle Malkin is going to be joining me on television tonight. You don't want to miss it at 5 o'clock. She's the author of a new book Sold Out: How High-Tech Billionaires and Bipartisan Beltway Crap Weasels Are Screwing America's Best and Brightest Workers.

Michelle, it's always good to have you on.

When I talk to you tonight at 5:00, I'd like to spend a few minutes with you that how is it that you, me, Jonah Goldberg have become the ones who have sold out the conservatives and people like Ann Coulter are carrying the torch. I'd like you to help me understand that a little bit.

MICHELLE: All right. Sounds good, Glenn.

GLENN: 5 o'clock. Thank you.

Top THREE reasons we NEED the Panama Canal

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Is Trump seriously planning a military conquest of the Panama Canal?

In the weeks leading up to the inauguration, Donald Trump launched the Panama Canal into the national spotlight. The canal is one of the most important passages in the world, and its continued operation has been critical for both the U.S. military and economy since its construction.

Since America relinquished sovereignty of the canal, China has asserted its authority in the region. The Chinese Communist Party has been growing its influence in Panama and neighboring Latin American countries, convincing them to join their "Belt and Road Initiative," an effort to poise China as the main economic power in developing nations across the world. Panama in particular is quickly becoming a Chinese puppet state. There are currently over 200,000 Chinese living in Panama, a Chinese company runs two of the canal's five major ports, and another Chinese company provides telecommunication service for a large portion of the canal. The government of Panama has even gone as far as cutting diplomatic ties with Taiwan.

It's clear that the Panama Canal is under serious threat of falling into Chinese hands, but President Trump doesn't intend to let them move in. Here are the top three reasons we need the Panama Canal:

1. The canal was built by the U.S.

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Without the United States, neither Panama nor the Panama Canal would exist. In 1903, after Colombia refused to allow the U.S. to build a canal across the isthmus of Panama, President Teddy Roosevelt devised a controversial plan. He supported a Panamanian independence movement, which swiftly overthrew the local Colombian government. Meanwhile, he stationed a U.S. warship off the coast, preventing Colombia from sending military forces to retake Panama.

The moment Panama declared its independence, the U.S. recognized it and struck a deal with the new government: the U.S. would control the Canal Zone, while Panama would receive $10 million and an annual payment of $250,000. Construction of the canal took over a decade, cost $375 million, and resulted in thousands of American casualties, making it the most expensive U.S. construction project of its time.

Fast forward to 1964 when tensions between the U.S. and Panama over the canal erupted into a riot. President Lyndon B. Johnson decided it was time to transfer control of the canal to Panama. However, this proved more complicated than expected. In 1968, General Omar Torrijos, a known ally of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, seized control of Panama in a coup. Negotiations over the Canal stalled, as many Americans opposed giving such an important asset to a controversial figure. It wasn’t until 1999, following the deployment of 27,000 U.S. troops to facilitate yet another change in power, that the Canal was officially handed over to Panama.

2. The canal is vital for the U.S. economy

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The U.S. relies heavily on the Panama Canal for commercial shipping. Between 13 and 14 thousand ships use the Panama Canal every year, which is roughly 40 percent of the global cargo ship traffic. Additionally, 72 percent of ships traversing the canal are either heading toward or leaving a U.S. port.

The time ships save using the Panama Canal reduces shipping costs massively. For example, when the canal first opened in 1922, it was estimated that a ship’s journey from Oregon to the UK, was shortened by 42 percent, reducing costs by 31 percent. If the Panama Canal was blocked or destroyed, or if American merchant vessels were denied passage, the effects on the U.S. economy would be tremendous.

3. The canal is a key defense point for the U.S. military

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Similarly, the canal is key to the U.S. military and national security. The canal shaves off approximately 8,000 miles of the voyage between the Pacific and the Atlantic. If U.S. Navy ships were denied access in a time of crisis, the extra time required to bypass the canal would be disastrous. Conversely, if the U.S. can keep the Panama Canal from being used by foreign aggressors, it would provide a massive advantage in future conflicts.

A foreign enemy could easily exploit the canal's current vulnerability. This was proven in 2021 when a cargo ship accidentally blocked the Suez Canal for a week, paralyzing global trade. Imagine China intentionally sabotaging the Panama Canal, considering it controls ports on both ends, owns a bridge that spans the Canal, provides its telecom services, and has the second-largest fleet of ships using the route.

TOP 5 takeaways from JD Vance's 'Face the Nation' interview

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After an eventful first week in office, JD Vance wrapped the week up with a bang of an interview on "Face the Nation."

Last weekend, Vice President Vance joined "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan, who drilled Vance on everything from the economy to immigration. Vance clapped back with polite yet cutting responses, and he defended Trump against some of her more accusatory queries.

If there was any lingering doubt that JD Vance wasn't vice presidential (or presidential) material, they have just been blown away. Here are the major takeaways from his electricinterview on Sunday:

1. J.D. Vance defends Trump's cabinet picks

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Brennan opened the interview with a barrage of questions that brought up concerns surrounding some of Trump's cabinet picks, specifically Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard.

Brennan began by questioning how effective Pete Hegseth could be as Secretary of Defence, given that he was confirmed with a tie in the Senate that VP Vance broke. Vance responded with a quick breakdown of all of the issues the military is currently facing. Vance argued that Hegseth's unpopularity in the Senate results from his being a disruptor.

Brennan also attacked Tulsi Gabbard, calling her unfit for the title of "Director of National Intelligence." Vance defended Gabbard, citing her formidable resume and strong character. Vance also discussed the corruption of our intelligence services, which out-of-control bureaucrats have weaponized against the interests of the American people. He expressed his belief that Gabbard would be the right person to reign in the corruption and return the National Intelligence Service to its intended purpose.

2. J.D. Vance explains how Trump's economic policies will lower consumer prices

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Brennan pushed Vance on the economy, specifically questioning when prices for consumer goods would begin to fall. Vance explained that within the plethora of executive orders issued by Trump during his first week in office, many were aimed at bringing more jobs back into America, which will raise wages and lower prices. Other orders will boost energy production, which will reduce energy costs and decrease the costs of goods.

3. J.D. Vance sheds light on needed FEMA reforms

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Brennan drilled Vance on President Trump's proposed FEMA reforms, specifically regarding Trump's suggestion to send states a percentage of federal disaster relief funds so that they can quickly distribute aid rather than wait on federal action. While Brennen argued that FEMA has specialists and resources that states would not have access to, leaving people without aid, Vance argued that recent disasters, like Hurricane Helene, have proven that FEMA's current bureaucratic red tape deprived Americans of immediate aid when they needed it most.

4. J.D. Vance defends Trump's mass deportations

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Vance defended Trump's decision to allow ICE to conduct raids into churches and schools against Brennen's criticisms, arguing that law enforcement should remove a dangerous criminal from a school or church, regardless of their immigration status. He also advocated for Trump's proposed changes to birthright citizenship to prevent illegal immigrants from abusing the constitutional amendment by having "anchor babies" on U.S. soil.

Vance also took a hard stance supporting Trump suspension of admitting Afghan refugees. Brennan argued that Afghan refugees were going through a thorough vetting process and were now being abandoned by the U.S. However, Vance cited the foiled terrorist attack in Oklahoma City during Trump's 2024 campaign that was orchestrated by an Afghan refugee, who was allegedly vetted by federal agents. The vetting process is clearly flawed, and it was a prudent decision to halt the admission of these refugees until further notice.

5. J.D. Vance insists that Trump will still reign in Big Tech

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To wrap up the interview, Brennan questioned the Trump administration's stance on Big Tech given the attendance of the industry's biggest names at Trump's inauguration, including Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Apple CEO Tim Cook, and TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew. Vance assured Brennan that Trump is still resolved to curb the power and influence of Big Tech.

Top THREE reasons the U.S. NEEDS Greenland

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Are Trump's repeated promises to claim Greenland for the U.S. just belligerent imperialism or a deft move to secure the future of America?

During his patriotic inaugural address, President Trump reiterated his campaign promise to expand American territories, including securing U.S. control over Greenland. This is not a new idea despite what the mainstream media may claim.

The idea of buying Greenland was originally introduced by progressive hero Woodrow Wilson in 1917 as an attempt to secure the homeland as America was gearing up to enter the First World War. The second attempt came after World War II when President Truman tried to buy the island from Denmark in another attempt to shore up national security, this time against the Soviets. Since then, Trump floated the idea in 2019, which was met with much the same ridicule as now.

The truth is that the acquisition of Greenland represents far more than just an outlet for repressed imperialist desires. It would be one of America's best investments in a long time, which is why we've been eyeballing it for so long. Here are three reasons the U.S. needs Greenland:

Strategic Military Position

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For the majority of the 20th century, Europe was the region from which a foreign attack on American soil could be launched: the Germans for the first half of the century, and the Russians for the second half. On both occasions, Greenland stood between our foreign enemies and the United States.

After the World War II, America was the official military defender of Greenland, per an agreement with Denmark. Under this agreement, the U.S. built Pituffik Air Force Base, a remote base 750 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Due to its location, approximately halfway between D.C. and Moscow, the Pentagon still views Pituffik as a vital component of America's nuclear defense.

The U.S. also built a secret base within the ice cap known as Camp Century. Camp Century was part scientific outpost, part nuclear-tipped ballistic missile silo built in the ice to withstand a direct atomic strike. The nearly two miles of icy tunnels were powered by a nuclear reactor and were designed to survive a nuclear first strike, and return fire. Although abandoned in 1967, Camp Century still symbolizes the strategic importance of Greenland for U.S. security.

Untapped Resources

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While Greenland's population is a mere 56,000, the island has a total landmass nearly three times the size of Texas. According to a 2009 geological assessment, a whopping 30 percent of the Earth's undiscovered natural gas, and 13 percent of its undiscovered oil is locked away beneath Greenland's icy ground. There are also untapped deposits of valuable rare earth metals including copper, graphite, and lithium.

Neither Greenland nor Denmark have any real plans to tap into this immense wealth trapped beneath the ice, but it could prove crucial for ending the West's dependency on China. China has the global market cornered on rare earth minerals- including America. We acquire 72 percent of our rare earth mineral imports from China, making us entirely dependent on them for the manufacturing of many essential goods. Tapping Greenland's natural resources would help free America, and the West, from China's yolk.

Polar Silk Road

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In 2018 China launched an ambitious project that aimed to cut the travel time of cargo vessels between its ports and European markets in half. China, in collaboration with Russia, plans on developing new shipping routes through the Arctic Ocean. This bold new strategy, dubbed the "Polar Silk Road," has been made possible thanks to new tech, including a fleet of Russian, nuclear-powered icebreakers, the latest of which is capable of breaking through nearly 10 feet of ice.

With clear waterways from eastern China and Northern Europe, it won't be long before the first cargo ships brave the frigid sea and China looks to the next leg of the journey: the Northwest Passage. The Northwest Passage is the area of sea between Canada and the North Pole that would be an optimal shipping route between America's East Coast and Asia if it wasn't frozen over most of the year. But with new technology, we may be able to overcome the challenges of the ice and open the passage to commercial traffic, and Greenland is positioned directly on the passage's easternmost mouth.

Greenland would quickly become a key location along the Northwestern Passage, acting as a sentinel of the east, with the ability to control traffic through the trade route. If China or Russia were to take control of Greenland, they would dominate the Northwestern Passage, along with the rest of the new northern trade routes.

Is Romania squashing its own 'Trump' candidate?

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This week the streets of Bucharest, the capital of Romania, erupted in protest after the Constitutional Courts annulled the recent first round of the presidential election after the "far-right" candidate won.

The government is lying to you. If you have been listening to Glenn for a long time you already know that, and you also know that if you try to call attention to the lies you get labeled a conspiracy theorist or "far-right." This is not only true in America but across the world. Politicians cheat, steal, and grab power, then lie about all of it. This is the root of countless issues across every government on the planet, and recently Romania has become the latest example of this unfortunate phenomenon.

But what is really happening in Romania? Was this an actual attempt to stamp out someone who would shed light on lies and corruption? Or did the Romanian government put a stop to a genuine bad actor?

The Election

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On December 6th, 2024, the Romanian Constitutional Court canceled the second round of the presidential election amid claims of Russian interference. The second round of the election would have seen right-wing candidate, Calin Georgescu face off against pro-European centrist Elena Lasconi.

The trouble surrounds Georgescu, who stands accused of using Russian aid to run an unprecedented social media campaign that helped him win an election pollsters claimed he stood no chance of winning. Georgescu's rapid rise in popularity on social media does raise some eyebrows, and to add to the suspicion he declared he had zero campaign spending. On the other hand, Georgescu's supporters claim that his quick rise to stardom and underdog victory is due to the growing resentment for the ever-out-of-touch political elite.

Georgescu's Platform

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Georgescu rose to prominence on a platform many of his detractors have labeled "far-right," "pro-Russian," and "populist" (sound familiar?). His positions include supporting Romanian farmers, increasing Romanian self-reliance, and increasing local energy production. Georgescu has been lauded for his message of hope and vision for the future and his dedication to truth, freedom, and sovereignty.

Georgescu is also a vocal Christian and a supporter of the Romanian Orthodox Church. He has questioned the climate change and COVID-19 narrative as well as NATO and the war in Ukraine, which is how he earned his "Pro-Russian" monicker. Georgescu promised to respect and honor its obligations to the EU and NATO, but only to the extent that they respect Romania and its interests.

What Happens Next?

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After Georgescu's unexpected victory, the Romanian Constitutional Courts annulled the election's first round and scheduled it to restart on May 4th. As of now, it is unclear whether Georgescu will be allowed to participate in the new election. This act by the Constitutional Courts triggered mass protests in the capital, Bucharest, and has caused many Romainians to question the state of democracy within their country.

Many of the protesters are calling what happened a coup and are demanding the election be allowed to continue to the second round. They are also calling for the resignation of current President Klaus Iohannis, who has maintained power thanks to the incomplete elections. Georgescu has officially challenged the court's decision and even made a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights, but it is unclear if his appeal will make any difference.