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'This guy is lying to you': Glenn breaks down the case against Grover Norquist

March 28, 2015
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GLENN: So let me make this case for you. And I think this is the most important part of this whole interview with Grover Norquist last night. You want to know who Grover Norquist is? He will tell you that he is a guy who is fighting the bad guys in the Middle East. He started the Islamic Institute. He took two checks of $10,000 each from Abdul Rahman Al-Amoudi. A guy who [was sentenced to] prison for 23 years. His sentence has just been reduced to 16 years by the Obama administration.

STU: Oh, that's nice.

GLENN: Yes. Al-Amoudi's number two man is Khaled Saffuri. When Al-Amoudi is known as a guy who is going to jail, Grover Norquist says he distances himself from it. But the number two man for Al-Amoudi is Saffuri. Grover brings him in as the co-founder of the Islamic Institute. Okay?

Doesn't make sense to me. I think you should probably ask a few questions. Now, Grover says, he didn't like Al-Amoudi because Saffuri had told him he was an old-style Muslim. If you remember at the beginning of the interview, he was saying that the problem was the old-style Muslim. So why would you take money from an old-style Muslim? Why would you take a loan from a guy who was an old-style Muslim, who also started many of the Muslim Brotherhood front groups here in the United States? Why would you be involved with him at all, if Saffuri told you that's who he was? Then he gets involved with Sami Al-Arian. He claims, 'I barely knew him. Maybe I sneezed in the same room he was in, but I didn't even know him.'

Then Jamal al Barzinji. Jamal is the father of the Muslim Brotherhood U.S. He is the founding father of the Muslim Brotherhood U.S.

Grover Norquist marches him in to the Treasury Secretary's office arm-in-arm saying we have to stop the secret evidence trail. When they were looking to shut down Muslim Brotherhood financing and terror financing and money laundering here in the United States, it was Grover Norquist and Jamal al Barzinji that walked into the Treasury Secretary and demanded that it stop.

Now, last night, he tried to say, 'well, it didn't prove any fruit. There was nobody that was indicted.'

The guy he mentioned that didn't come up with anything, we have the draft subpoena. I think it's 116 charges of money laundering and terror financing. It was the Justice Department under -- who is our current Justice Department guy? Head of the FBI, Holder. It was Holder's office that called it off. So they had the charges ready to go, and Holder called it off. So that doesn't hold any water.

But what did Barzinji do? Well, he also started Muslim Brotherhood front groups or his name is on the roster. He's part of Muslim Brotherhood front groups.

Then we got to Suhail Khan. Now, Suhail Khan has worked with the White House. This guy is fully laundered. This is the Van Jones of the Muslim Brotherhood. Everybody trusts Suhail Khan.

Last night I asked him, are you friends with Suhail Khan? Are you friends with him? I'll play his answers in a little while. His answer is stunning. I guess. It's my understanding that he and Suhail Khan are very close. Very close. That these two are joined at the hip. That they are very good friends.

He answered the question, 'I guess.' So wait a minute. What does that mean. Is he a friend? 'Well, he's a friend as much as anybody has a friend in Washington.' What does that mean? So he's not a friend? 'Well, I have a lot of friends in Washington. 150 people in my office every Wednesday, you know, that I have meetings with and I guess they're all friends too.'

So he's distancing himself from Suhail Khan. Why would you do that? If you think this guy is absolutely clean and you are indeed a friend.

Stu, if somebody came to you and said, are you friends with Glenn Beck? 'Yes.'

STU: Yes.

GLENN: Really close friends? 'Yeah, I guess. We've been together for a long time. Know each other really well.; Why? If they smeared all your other friends, I would hope you would say, 'look, I know Glenn. What charges are you making here, he's a good guy.' Right?

He didn't say that. He never said that.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: Yes. 'Yes, I'm friends.' That's not a hard question to answer, okay? Especially a guy who has been clean and clear for everybody. He's got the full weight of the White House behind him saying Suhail Khan is a great guy.

STU: You would be proud. You're tying someone who is a good guy to yourself.

GLENN: For instance, he said about al Barzinji, he said, 'what charges are you making against him? He's a good guy.' And I said, 'he was the founding father of the American Muslim Brotherhood. I think that is enough said.' 'Well, I don't think so.'

Okay, so he stands for the founding father of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group he says at the very beginning is a bad group.

STU: Yep. Should be opposed.

GLENN: So he should be opposed. But he won't do that with Suhail Khan. He doesn't see my line of questioning. I think he thought I was going for another line of questioning with Suhail Khan. But here was my line of questioning. Remember, you're starting the anti-Klan thing. You're looking for people that can help you get people away from the Klan.

Suhail Khan's parents were Muslim Brotherhood, bad Muslim Brotherhood. They're friends with Al-Amoudi, a guy who is serving a prison sentence. They actually were involved in getting al-Zawahiri in to the United States covertly in the 1990s. Okay? So he could observe. That's the number two al-Qaeda guy under Osama bin Laden and then the number one guy after Osama bin Laden's death. So a really bad guy. They help him get into the United States covertly.

Then a few weeks or a few months before the World Trade Center bombing, they have a dinner with the Blind Sheik. So are there parents that are more Muslim Brotherhood than Suhail Khan's parents?

STU: That's pretty hardcore.

GLENN: If these things are contract accurate, that's the hardest core of hardest core. So here's what I asked. 'So you're friends with him. Have you had a beer with him and just shot the breeze?' 'Well, yeah.'

'Have you asked him, what was it like growing up in a household like that? What was it like to have your parents bring in the blind sheik, friends with Al-Amoudi, al-Zawahiri, what was that like?' 'No, I didn't ask that.' Play cut 11.

GLENN: Have you ever said to him, so Suhail, your folks were -- were pretty intense? I mean, your folks were Muslim Brotherhood, your folks just before the World Trade Center bombing had the blind sheik over to the house. What was that like?

GLENN: Listen to this.

GROVER: His dad has been dead for 15 years. Twenty years or something. So I've never discussed his dead father with him. I've heard -- again, I've heard the accusation.

GLENN: I've heard the accusation. I didn't talk to his father, who has been dead for 15 or 20 years, he says. Fifteen or 20 years. Well, I think the pain - it's not like he died last Wednesday. He's been dead for 15 or 20 years. Stu, you're running it. I have the guy whose parents were both grand wizards of the Klan, okay? They brought in the worst of the worst. They made the ropes and picked out the trees. They had David Duke over for dinner. He's out.

Two-part question. The son is out. He is against the Klan now. You're running an anti-Klan thing. Do you say, 'you know, I hate to bring this up because I know your dad is dead and it must have been horrible, but this can really help us, you're a massive asset, how did you get out?' Do you say that?

STU: Not only do I say it, it's the most interesting thing about you. It's literally priority number one to talk to someone like that. This is what my organization is designed to do.

JEFFY: On top of the fact, why do you have to ask that?

GLENN: That's question number two! Can I ask you -- have you ever met David Horowitz?

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: David Horowitz parents were the worst of the worst. They were communist sympathizers. They were part of the undoing of the US during the red scare and everything else. They were spies. You can't shut David Horowitz up. You're like, can we talk about something else besides -- okay. If your parents were Muslim Brotherhood Al-Amoudi, Blind Sheik, al-Zawahiri, and you're now in the White House, you would be the biggest -- people around you would be like, 'please shut up. I get it.' You would be the number one guy ringing the warning bell. They've never discussed it. He is lying.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you would convict on this if you were sitting in a court that makes no sense whatsoever.

STU: I mean, it just makes sense. Here is an example of the exact thing you want. Someone with radical parents to turn around against those organizations. You have that person in front of you as a good friend on a routine basis, and it never comes over a ten-year --

GLENN: Fifteen-year time span. It makes no sense whatsoever. You've never discussed that. Makes no sense.

Now, my question to you is, you didn't accept any of this from the Obama administration. Now, this guy agrees with you on much of the stuff. He agrees with you, lower taxes. He's helping people get elected and everything else. He's on your side. Do you accept it now or are you consistent? Do you have the balls to have the courage of your conviction and say, yes, this might hurt in the short-term, but this guy needs to be out of CPAC. This guy needs to be out of the G.O.P. Who is he meeting with every Wednesday in his Wednesday meeting of 150 Republicans every single Wednesday.

Who is he meeting? What is he saying? Where is he getting his funding from? Who else has he white-washed and put into places that God knows Muslim Brotherhood should not be in?

This guy is lying to you.

STU: And what's important about this is, when we all look at the Republican Party and people working in those circles in Washington and we wonder why over and over and over again we -- we're able to win elections and not get the results that we want, we're able to put -- we have so many people saying the right things, but never doing the right things. Why does this continue to happen? This very well could be the string at the end of this --

GLENN: It is. I'm telling you this leads to Karl Rove. This leads to all of them. You want to know why we played footsy in the Middle East? You want to know why we have the Muslim Brotherhood in this White House and the last White House? Here it is, gang. Now, do you have the courage to look at it. Do you have the courage to stand? He's on the board of the NRA. He was with CPAC. I'll give you the list of all the boards that he was on. I don't have the list right now.

You tell me you think this guy is a good person to have around. He's not. He's not. And I will just say this, I don't know his motivation. I'm not saying he's trying to destroy the United States. My guess is he likes power and money. That's it. There's a lot of money in the Middle East, all you have to do is play footsie. And we'll be fine. And stop being so panicky and little girl. That's what's happening. He's choosing to turn a blind eye. I don't think he's Muslim. I'll just tell you this, his answers make no sense. None.

Did the Left lay the foundations for election denial?

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Did Glenn predict the future?

Just a few days after the election and President Trump's historic victory, the New York Times published a noteworthy article titled "How Russia Openly Escalated Its Election Interference Efforts," in which they made some interesting suggestions. They brought up several examples of Russian election interference (stop me if you think you've heard this one before) that favored Trump. From there, they delicately approached the "election denial zone" with the following statement:

"What impact Russia’s information campaign had on the outcome of this year’s race, if any, remains uncertain"

Is anyone else getting 2016 flashbacks?

It doesn't end there. About two weeks before the election (October 23rd), Glenn and Justin Haskins, the co-author of Glenn's new book, Propaganda Wars, discuss a frightening pattern they were observing in the news cycle at the time, and it bears a striking similarity to this New York Times piece. To gain a full appreciation of this situation, let's go back to two weeks before the election when Glenn and Justin laid out this scene:

Bad Eggs in the Intelligence Community

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This story begins with a top-secret military intelligence leak. Over the October 19th weekend, someone within the U.S. Government's intelligence agencies leaked classified information regarding the Israeli military and their upcoming plans to Iran. The man responsible for this leak, Asif William Rahman, a CIA official with top security clearance, was arrested on Tuesday, November 12th.

Rahman is one of the known "bad eggs" within our intelligence community. Glenn and Justin highlighted another, a man named Robert Malley. Malley is an Iranian envoy who works at the State Department under the Biden/Harris administration and is under investigation by the FBI for mishandling classified information. While Malley was quietly placed on leave in June, he has yet to be fired and still holds security clearance.

Another suspicious figure is Ariane Tabatabai, a former aide of Mr. Malley and a confirmed Iranian agent. According to a leak by Semafor, Tabatabai was revealed to be a willing participant in an Iranian covert influence campaign run by Tehran's Foreign Ministry. Despite this shocking revelation that an Iranian agent was in the Pentagon with access to top-secret information, Tabatabai has not faced any charges or inquires, nor has she been stripped of her job or clearance.

If these are the bad actors we know about, imagine how many are unknown to the public or are flying under the radar. In short, our intelligence agencies are full of people whose goals do not align with American security.

Conspicuous Russian Misinformation

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The story continues with a video of a man accusing former VP candidate and Minnesota Governor, Tim Walz of sexual assault. The man alleged to be Matthew Metro, a former student of Walz claimed that he was assaulted by the Governor while in High School. The man in the video gave corroborating details that made the claim seem credible on the surface, and it quickly spread across the internet. But after some deeper investigation, it was revealed this man wasnot Matthew Metro and that the entire video was fake. This caught the attention of the Security Director of National Intelligence who claimed the video was a Russian hoax designed to wound the Harris/Walz campaign, and the rest of the intelligence community quickly agreed.

In the same vein, the State Department put out a $10 million bountyto find the identity of the head of the Russian-owned media company Rybar. According to the State Department, Rybar manages several social media channels that promote Russian governmental political interests targeted at Trump supporters. The content Rybar posts is directed into pro-Trump, and pro-Republican channels, and the content apparently has a pro-Trump spin, alongside its pro-Russia objectives.

Why Does the Intelligence Community Care?

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So what's the deal? Yes, Russia was trying to interfere with the election, but this is a well-known issue that has unfortunately become commonplace in our recent elections.

The real concern is the intelligence community's uncharacteristically enthusiastic and fast response. Where was this response in 2016, when Hillary Clinton and the Democrats spent months lying about Donald Trump's "collusion" with Russia? It has since been proven that the FIB knew the entire story was a Clinton campaign fabrication, and they not only kept quiet about it, but they even played along. Or what about in 2020 when the Left tried to shut down the Hunter Biden laptop story for months by calling it a Russian hoax, only for it to turn out to be true?

Between all the bad actors in the intelligence community and their demonstrated repeated trustworthiness, this sudden concern with "Russian disinformation" that happened to support Trump was just too convenient.

Laying the Foundations for Election Denial

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This is when Glenn and Justin make a startling prediction: the Left was preparing for a potential Trump victory (remember, this was two weeks before the election) so they would have something to delegitimize him with. They were painting Trump as Putin's lapdog who was receiving election assistance in the form of misinformation from the Kremlin by sounding the alarm on these cherry-picked (and in the grand scheme of things, tame) examples of Russian propaganda. They were laying the foundation of the Left's effort to resist and delegitimize a President-elect Trump.

Glenn and Justin had no idea how right they were.

Trump's POWERFUL 10-point plan to TEAR DOWN the Deep State

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Since 2016 President Trump has promised to drain the swamp, but with Trump's new ten-point plan, do we finally have a solid roadmap to dismantle the deep state?

In March 2023, President Trump released a video detailing his plan to shatter the deep state. Now that he is the President-Elect, this plan is slated to launch in January 2025. Recently, Glenn reviewed Trump's plan and was optimistic about what he saw. In fact, he couldn't see how anyone could be against it (not that anything will stop the mainstream media from spinning it in a negative light).

But don't let Glenn tell you what to think! Check out Trump's FULL plan below:

1. Remove rouge bureaucrats

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Trump's first order of business will be to restore an executive order he issued in 2020 that allowed him to remove rouge bureaucrats. Trump promises to use this power aggressively eliminate corruption.

2. Clean and overhaul the intelligence apparatus

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Next, Trump promises to oust corrupt individuals from the national intelligence apparatus. This includes federal bureaucracies like the CIA, NSA, and other agencies that have been weaponized against the left's political opponents.

3. Reform FISA courts 

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Trump's next promise is to reform the FISA courts, which are courts tasked with reviewing and approving requests to gather foreign intelligence, typically through surveillance. These courts have been unaccountable to protections like the 4th Amendment that prohibits the government from unwarranted surveillance, resulting in severe government overreach on American citizens, both on US soil and abroad.

4. Expose the deep state. 

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Trump want to establish a "Truth and Reconciliation" commission that will be tasked with unmasking the deep state. This will be accomplished by publishing and declassifying all documents on deep state spying, corruption, and censorship.

5. Crackdown on government-media collusion

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Next, Trump will crack down on government "leakers" who collaborate with the mainstream media to spread misinformation. These collaborators purposefully interject false narratives that derail the democratic process within the country. The plan will also prohibit government actors from pressuring social media to censor content that goes against a particular political narrative, as was done, for example, in the case of the Biden administration pressuring Facebook to crack down on Hunter Biden laptop-related content.

6. Isolate inspector generals

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Trump promises to physically separate every inspector general from the department they are tasked with overseeing. This way, they don't become entangled with the department and end up protecting them instead of scrutinizing them.

7. Create a system to monitor the intelligence agencies

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To ensure that the intelligence agencies are no longer spying on American citizens, Trump proposed to create an independent auditing system. This auditing system, created by Congress, would keep the intelligence agencies in check from spying on American citizens or political campaigns as they did on Trump's campaign.

8. Relocate the federal bureaucracy

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Relocating the federal bureaucracy, Trump argues, will keep the internal politics of the individual bureaucracies out of the influence of DC. He says he will begin by relocating the Bureau of Land Management to Colorado.

9. Ban federal bureaucrats from taking corporate jobs

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To keep money ties out of politics, Trump proposes that federal bureaucrats should be banned from working at the companies that they are regulating. American taxpayer dollars should not go to agencies run by bureaucrats who cut special deals for corporations, who will later offer them a cushy role and a huge paycheck.

10. Push for congressional term limits

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Finally, Trump wants to make a constitutional amendment placing term limits on members of Congress. This proposal has been popular on both sides of the political aisle for a while, preventing members of Congress from becoming swamp creatures like Nancy Pelosi who was just re-elected for her 19th term.

The Democrats are turning on Biden

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The election is over, Kamala Harris has officially conceded, and now the Democrats are doing some serious soul-searching.

After reflecting long and hard (approximately 24 hours), the Democrats have discovered the real reason Harris lost the election. Was it Trump's excellent campaign that resonated with voters? Was it Harris's off-putting personality? Or was it her failure to distinguish herself from the Biden administration's failed policies?

No, it was Joe Biden. All the blame lies on President Biden's shoulders. The Left sees no need to take any real responsibility for the landslide defeat the Democrats suffered earlier this week; just pass the blame on to 'ole Joe.

Here are the leading excuses the Left is spinning up to explain Harris's crushing defeat:

"Biden should have dropped out sooner."

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This is the crux of the left-wing media's argument against Biden. They claim that if Joe Biden had dropped out earlier, Harris would have had more time to campaign and would not have had to carry around the baggage of Biden's abysmal debate performance. This could make sense, but what these commentators are conveniently forgetting are the years of propaganda these very same people promoted arguing that Biden's declining mental acuity was nothing more than a right-wing conspiracy theory. If Biden had been as sharp as they had told us, why would he have dropped out?

Also, if a lack of time was Harris's biggest issue this election, she sure didn't act like it. She was practically in hiding for the first several weeks of her campaign and she took plenty of days off, including during the last few crucial weeks. More time wouldn't have helped her case.

"Harris failed to distance herself from Biden."

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This is media gaslighting at its finest. Yes, Harris failed to distance herself from Biden. However, that's because she, along with the rest of the Left, publically went on record defending Biden's policies and his mental acuity. By the time Harris became the nominee, she had already said too much in favor of Biden. Don't forget Harris's infamous “There is not a thing that comes to mind,” quote after being asked on The View if she would do anything differently than Biden. In a way, Harris couldn't separate herself from Biden without drawing attention to the greatest flaw in her campaign: if she knew how to fix the country, why hasn't she?

"Harris did the best anyone could have done in that situation."

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But did she really? As mentioned earlier, she was noticeably absent for much of the campaign. While Trump was busy jumping into interviews, events, and rallies non-stop, Harris was MIA. Whenever Harris did manage to make an appearance, it almost always did more harm than good by highlighting her lack of a robust policy platform and her inability to string together a coherent sentence. Notable examples include her aforementioned appearance on The View and her disastrous interview on Fox News with Bret Baier. The point is, even considering the limited time to campaign she had, Kamala Harris wasnot the best person for the job and there are undoubtedly many other Democrats who would have run a much more successful campaign.

Glenn: I'm filled with hope. And you should be, too.

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The election was a major blow to draconian globalist organizations. Now, we could have a true rebirth of freedom and the American dream.

Millions of people around the world were holding their breath on election night. I've talked to Europeans to try to get a bead on what’s happening over there. There are Europeans like you and me who are frustrated with their own globalist, tyrannical bureaucracies telling them how to live and what to believe. If Donald Trump didn’t win, where in the world would they look to for hope that this madness would stop? Which leader could they count on to stand in the gap against their globalist elites? They, too, had a lot on the line in our election last night.

But today brings hope, not only in America but for freedom-loving people worldwide.

We need to restore the balance of power in the federal government — the way America’s founders intended.

We know Trump is going to stop the madness at the southern border. He is going to deport serial criminals and sex offenders who entered our country under Biden and Harris' watch. The media will try to convince you that deportations are something akin to Hitler, but they turn a blind eye to their Democratic predecessors who have deported even more illegal immigrants than Trump. In fact, Bill Clinton deported more illegal immigrants than any president in U.S. history, shipping 11 million out of the country in the 1990s. In contrast, Trump deported less than a million during his first term, which is even less than the 1.8 million under the Obama administration.

Deportations of criminals who are in our country illegally is critical to protecting the safety of the American people, a practice that has been exercised by presidents for decades.

Our friends across the pond have been witnessing the destruction of their societies since EU globalists opened Europe's floodgates to immigrants in 2015. Crime is rampant, communities governed by Sharia law are multiplying, and their social programs are being pushed to a breaking point. Tuesday night gave them reason to hope. America is going to say, "No more," and perhaps this will be the rallying cry for our European brothers-in-arms to stand up as well.

The election was also a major blow to draconian globalist organizations. The United States will no longer be beholden to the Paris Climate Accords. Our nation will no longer give credence to the World Economic Forum. We won’t give the World Health Organization a single penny more. All these very well-planned globalist initiatives are going away.

But Trump can't act alone. Thank God we won the Senate. This is an incredible step forward, but for these big plans to come to fruition, we need the House. If the Republicans — actual freedom-loving, Constitution-abiding Republicans — don't have the House, you’re not going to be able to get things done except by executive order, which we don’t want to do. One reason things were so bad during the last four years is that Joe Biden simply signed executive orders to reverse everything that Trump accomplished, completely bypassing Congress. We have to do it the right way. We need to restore the balance of power in the federal government — the way America’s founders intended.

One of the most hopeful things Trump said Tuesday night is that we’re going to enter a new golden era in America. I believe him. He could have said that in 2020, and I wouldn't have believed him as much as I believe him now. That’s because Trump now has a team of people that's not exclusively comprised of politicians.

Bringing in somebody like Elon Musk is one of the most hopeful things for our country I've witnessed in my lifetime. I know that guy can cut spending. I know he will find the waste in our government because he's not a government guy — he's a businessman. He's going to slash all the redundancies that have been justified by career bureaucrats for decades. We have a chance of cutting our budget and creating a reasonable one.

Trump’s promise to cut regulations also spells hope for our country. He cut more regulation in his first term than any other president, but Biden and Harris have since added a mountain of rules. He will have his work cut out for him, but he will get it done. He must if this economy will roar again.

We could have a true rebirth of freedom and the American dream, and I find that really hopeful. So many Americans are tired of worrying about their kids struggling and seeing Bidenomics and regulation yank from their children's hands the possibility of the American dream that they attained. Donald Trump is the biggest chance of bringing it back.

Today, I’m filled with hope. Real, tangible hope. And you should be, too.

Editor's Note: This article was originally published on TheBlaze.com.