RADIOAugust 04, 2022

CEO: Our ammunition deliveries go MISSING with UPS

Patrick Collins, CEO of The Gun Food, has lost thousands of dollars worth of ammunition. Why? Because customers’ orders don’t always seem to make it to their doors — especially when delivering with UPS. Collins joins Glenn to detail the issue, the lengths his company has gone to work with the delivery service, and the lack of detailed response or explanation from UPS. Where IS the ammo?!

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GLENN: So yesterday, I read a story about The Gun Food. TheGunFood.com is a quick process ammunition supply company. And it is very active in supporting gun rights, to local state and national levels. They supply ammunition to regular people. And people who protect our society. Individual consumers, to ranges, to police departments and instructors. And this article was about how UPS seems to be losing a lot of their packages. They claim, that UPS is behind their missing packages, leading only one-third of their orders being delivered. The rest, gone. They can't seem to get a real answer, from UPS. Patrick Collins is the CEO of the Gun Food. Welcome, Patrick, how are you?

PATRICK: I'm great today. How are you?

GLENN: I'm good. So can you tell us a little bit about your business. You're fully licensed. No crackpot business. Fly by the seat of your pants. This is a legitimate gun and amnesty business. And you've done business with UPS for how long?

PATRICK: We've been doing business with UPS for approximately three years now. And unfortunately, we do not sell firearms. But we sell plenty of ammunition, we supply to plenty of different ranges. Et cetera. And so on.

GLENN: And, Patrick, how many packages have been lost?

PATRICK: Oh. I would say, approximately 14,000 dollars' worth over the course of the business. But however, recently, we just received a hit of about 8,000-dollar loss.

GLENN: So there is -- you know, I've done business with UPS. I don't lose packages like that. What are they saying to you, when you're like, wait a minute. It didn't arrive to where I was shipping it? What do they say?

PATRICK: Well, they try to blame it on sometimes the packaging itself. Et cetera. And so on. However, for the most part, we ship all of our ammunition insured. So it requires either a signatures, or depending on the value, it's always going to be insured for that value. However, the problem that we run into, is when it doesn't make it to our customer, and the customer calls us back, we have to provide that ammo. A lot of times, lives are on the line. Lives and livelihood, I would say. Whether it's an structure or police department. When they don't receive their ammo. There are issues happening.

GLENN: So we reached out to UPS. And I want to read what we wrote to them. UPS, I'm reaching out on behalf of the Glenn Beck Radio Program. Glenn will be interviewing an Atlanta had much based ammunition distributor, who alleges UPS is behind the reason these packages are not getting delivered to these customers. He states out of 18,000 rounds of ammunition, he shipped only 6,000 -- I'm sorry. He shipped 18,000. But 6,000 were actually delivered.

Additionally, it's being reported that Brownells, a large firearms and ammunition seller has had their UPS account canceled, and UPS is no longer listed as an option for shipping carrier.

Can you please provide some background information on why ammunition and gun sellers are having issues with their package delivery? They said, dear Glenn Beck Program, these are two separate issues. Regarding your question about shipping ammunition, quote, as a common carrier, UPS transports ammunition that constitutes cartridges, small arms, as defined in federal regulations. UPS has safety protocols, to help ensure the safe transport of ammunition in our network. We work with our customers to address their concerns. Including those with packaging. You can find out more about how to ship your ammunition section, UPS.com. It includes packaging requirements. So they didn't answer the question. They're just saying, again, they're alluding that your packaging is not compliant with them. That doesn't answer the question, where is the ammunition? And I would assume, you have tried to follow every single protocol that they have.

PATRICK: Yes. Every protocol was met. And exceeded, even. Because I actually have -- I have pictures of how the packages are packed, within the packages that are -- that they're sent in. So they asked me, how -- you know, what type of materials did I use? How was it marked or labeled? And I have all of that information. In fact, we change our protocol here, at TheGunFood.com to have our drivers, when they drop off the packages at the centers, they have to actually take a picture of it, on their conveyor belt when UPS takes possession of our packages.

GLENN: Do you have to do this with anybody else?

PATRICK: Well, unfortunately, the other major carrier for ammunition, they have their own issues. Which have been brought to light, probably about two years ago. So we unfortunately have stopped and not considered using them for our business. So we stuck with UPS.

GLENN: So now, when you have -- when you have UPS, you call them. And you say, look, I have the pictures. We packaged it right. We put it on your conveyor belt. Here's the receipt. What do they say to you?

PATRICK: Well, they say, provide the same amount of information, as if I were to lose a family heirloom. Or, you know, some other package, that could have been shipped. That's not involving ammunition. And at that rate, we're sitting here fighting it. I know quite a few other folks, that are -- have well over $300,000 of ammunition gone missing. And it's really changed the way we have to do our business now.

GLENN: 300,000 dollars' worth of ammunition? Those are a lot of bullets, that are just, what? Spilling out of their truck, because they're not packed right? And do they say, here's spoiled boxes, and here's the ammunition that we could save? I mean, they just don't explain where that ammunition and that defective box went to?
PATRICK: Exactly. To them, it's just a write-off. However, it's becoming a very expensive write-off. I would like to thank you for bringing a lot of attention to this. Because it really is a big deal. And it impacts people on multiple levels. More so than your average citizen would think. Imagine if the police department doesn't receive their ammunition, that they need to serve their civic duties -- civil duties.

GLENN: So -- well, imagine -- imagine if you got sloppy with ammunition, and you were just kind of losing some from time to time. What they would accuse you of. The -- UPS is part of this great reset. They're very, very deeply involved in that. I would like to think that this is just incompetence. Because it can't be excuse -- if you you do indeed have the pictures, and you're shipping them the right way. Which I believe you are. But please sends my office the pictures. Because we would like to follow this up.

There is -- there's no excuse. It's either theft. From their own employees. Or it is part of a -- of a hidden policy, that is disrupting the flow of ammunition. And that's -- that's -- I would -- I hope it's the theft from their employees. But I bet it's not.

PATRICK: Yes. And I 100 percent agree. Unfortunately, ammunition boxes are easy to identify. With the markings we need to put on them. And we try to hide them in ways, that is not as obvious. However, a lot of times, people know what they're grabbing, once they grab the box. Or perhaps even shake it.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Way too heavy. Ammunition in a big box at least is very heavy.

All right. Well, we'll follow up. I would like you to reach out to my producers. If you do indeed have names of people that have lost 300,000 dollars' worth of ammunition, the same way you have. There's something going on here. Because all of a sudden, all of you guys are starting to just pack it wrong. It's either a -- their stonewalling here bothers me. Because there should be an answer. What happened to it? What happened to it? Okay. You didn't pack it right. Well, where did that box go? It's not like if I shipped diamonds through UPS. They're going to say, you know what, your box fell apart. Okay. Well, where are the diamonds? Well, you just write it off. That means, they're either keeping it, doing something with it. Or they have a theft problem.

UPS, which one is it? And then why is this happening, and you don't seem to care? Thank you, Patrick, I appreciate it. God bless you.

PATRICK: You have a good one.

GLENN: You bet.

Will Justin Trudeau RESIGN Because of Trump’s Tariff Threat?

Rumor has it that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will resign soon. Does this have anything to do with Donald Trump’s threat to hit Canada with heavy tariffs if it doesn’t get its border under control? Glenn speaks with ‪@RebelNewsOnline‬ founder Ezra Levant, who lays out why Canadians are DONE with Trudeau – in fact, he only has 11% approval according to a new poll! They also review the resignation of Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, who was behind the financial attacks against the trucker protesters. Plus, Ezra gives his take on the possible next Prime Minister, conservative leader Pierre Poilievre.

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GLENN: So I want to take you up to almost where Santa lives, in a place almost just as imaginative as Santa land. It's called Canada. Where Justin Trudeau has been just a military jacket away from being more like his dad in Cuba.

But it's falling apart in Canada. His finance minister, which is the number two position, walked out. He said, I -- you know, I want to do another role for you. And she said, the only viable thing is, if I leave, the cabinet. This is the woman who shut down all of the social media gift-giving services. And was freezing people's bank accounts during the trucker strike.

She's also the one that does all of the trade deals, between the United States and Canada.

Gee, I wonder what she's worried about.

Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau has just been giving away all kinds of monies.

He's got a sales tax holiday for Canadians, and sending checks to Canadians that need it.

Right now, during the Christmas season. And he's also a -- you know, some -- some other things that are -- people aren't real, real happy about.

Is his reign over?

Or is he going to be elected to a fourth term?

I made a prediction today. And I know nothing about Canada.

Today may be his last day.

It's that close!

GLENN: Hero, really, of the Canadian people.

Ezra Levant.

Hello, Ezra.

EZRA: Glenn, it's great to talk to you today.

I heard your introduction about Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister. She's much more than that. It would be like Dick Cheney was to George Bush Jr.

I mean, the everything fixer. Totally involved in all the files.

That was Chrystia Freeland. And she quit yesterday, and she timed her leaving to detonate the morning she was supposed to deliver a mini budget.

So that whole thing was thrown in -- you know, into a mess.

GLENN: And basically, didn't she say that because we're -- we're spending all of our money. And we have to stop, because we might get into a trade war with America.

EZRA: She did. And in her resignation letter.

Which she published. She accused Trudeau of being a narcissist. Of being in it for himself. She didn't use the word narcissist. But she said, we have to think about more than just ourselves. We have to think about the country.

She accused him of, quote, political gimmicks.

And the thing is, she was his right-hand woman since the very beginning.

And I want to tell you one more thing about Christie free LAN.

She's on the board of trustees. Of the World Economic Forum.

And what was her job right before she became a member of parliament to join Trudeau?

You're not going to believe me.

She was the authorized biographer, of George Soros.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

EZRA: So the deputy prime minister and finance minister -- but really, the everything minister of Canada. She was like I say, like Dick Cheney to George Bush. She was the right-hand man on every file.

GLENN: So was she more of the architect of this, or is Trudeau capable of doing it?

What I'm asking, is Trudeau more of a Biden, and she's more of an Obama?

Or is it Dick Cheney and George W. Bush?

EZRA: Trudeau loves the sizzle of being Prime Minister. He loves the adulation.

It's hard to come by. So, for instance, he went to the recent Taylor Swift concert and he exchanged friendship bracelets with teenage girls. That's his marketplace.

Everyone else shouts at him.

GLENN: Wow.

EZRA: So he -- he was never a policy guy.

He would leave that to the grownups.

And Chrystia Freeland and George Soros would fill that void. And I'm not just saying George Soros as a throwaway line.

A few years ago, Canada signed a contract with the Open Societies Foundation to draft our refugee policy.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh!

EZRA: So this is not a rumor.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

EZRA: He literally outsourced -- so Chrystia Freeland departing is an enormous blow.

But, look, Canadians are -- can hardly wait to get rid of Trudeau. I don't want to sound overconfident. But the conservative opposition leadership. His name is Pierre Poilievre. He's excellent.

He's -- he's way out ahead in the polls.
Remember, we have a multi-party system. So there's about five parties in parliament.

The conservatives are at 43. Now, I know that may sound low in an American party system.

When you've got five parties, 43 percent means you will have a massive victory. And last night, after Chrystia Freeland detonated Trudeau and quit, there was a pollster that went into the field immediately. And his results are just being posted. Only 11 percent of Canadians approve of Trudeau, 11 percent. It's going to be a massacre.

Last factoid.

GLENN: This is happy news. This is really happy news.

EZRA: It is good news.

While everyone was focused on the intrigues in Ottawa, there was a special election in the province of British Columbia, from one of these members of parliament. And the conservatives, led by Pierre Poilievre.

Got 66 percent in the local district.

GLENN: In Vancouver BC?

EZRA: In the -- not in Vancouver proper, but nearby.

So in BC, which is sort of like Washington States, it's a little bit hippie.

GLENN: A little bit?

EZRA: Yeah.

Glenn, I have to tell you, people of every background, according to the pollsters, men and women. Young and old, and minorities. They all want Trudeau gone, which is so interesting.

Because he came to power, as the woke guy, who --

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

EZRA: You know, I'm a male feminist. He said. Et cetera.

Canadians are finally done with it. We just need that moment where we get to go to vote.

STU: Ezra, I hate to simplify your country's politics this way. Glenn, with the apple guy.

The member of the viral video, where he was just sitting and answering questions. That's the guy.

GLENN: I love that guy.

STU: Yes. I think everybody in America who saw that video loves this guy.

GLENN: Oh, I love that guy.

EZRA: That apple eating thing, give me 30 seconds on that. You know, he was answering questions from a left-wing journalist, while casually eating an apple.

GLENN: I loved it.

EZRA: Whenever the journalists would say, well, people say you're like Trump. And he would say, what people?

And what did they say?

And he just did this a bunch of times. Proving that the journalist was just, you know, taking cheap shots.

And when he said people say, he was just saying, I say.

It was masterful.

And why -- there was no real policy talked about.

The reason that was important, Glenn. Is because it shows the pure -- it has a Trump-like disdain for journalism.

Why is that important?

Because too many Canadian conservatives are so worried about what the media will say about them, they respond to the pure pressure of journalism.

They want to give an answer that the journalist wants. Poilievre is not afraid to look at our version of CNN in the eyes.

And say, you know, I -- and attack them. And insult them, and poke back.

So I know, if he's elected Prime Minister. That he will be largely immune, to the mean girls club. Or the media party.

GLENN: And that's saying something.

Because you have the CBC. That's like our PBS. Except, that's the main -- I mean, they control the -- they are the CNN. NBC. ABC. They're everything up there.

EZRA: They're larger than all other media combined. Our state broadcaster has more journalists than every other media company combined. You can imagine how that really could distort the national conversation.

Plus, a lot of Canadians get their info through social media. Which is why Trudeau's introduced legislation that would criminalize, including with a life in prison. There's a -- Trudeau has introduced a bill.

Called C63.

That has a life in prison component. For, quote, hate crimes.

Including hate speech.

That's one of the reasons Jordan Peterson cited for moving into America.

This bill C63.

And we will fight that bill, if it becomes law.

The way things are looking. I think Trudeau may not last long enough to make it into law.

GLENN: So what happened?

I mean, parliamentary systems are so weird. You can call it an election at any time.

Which is kind of weird.

But does he have to call for one. Or does he have to step down?

Can there be a vote of no confidence?

What happens next?

VOICE: Well, he only has a minority in our parliament. He's propped up by a hardcore Socialist Party, called the MVP. The new Democrats.

GLENN: Right.

And didn't they just come out and pretty much say, we're done with you?

VOICE: No, it's trickier. They said, we demand Trudeau resign!

And then when they said, will you vote nonconfidence with him?

They refused to. They lining to pretend they're against Trudeau. They have never -- so if -- Trudeau is the master of his own destiny. As long as no one has the courage to push him out.

And if there was a non-confidence vote, he could be thrown out, and an election would be forced.

But I don't think his critics have the courage to do that. I don't think they have the numbers. And look, these polls are so awful, Glenn.

A lot of the liberals who are sick of Trudeau, and worried he's painting things.

They know they will lose, whether the election is now or in six months.

So why not drag it out for six more months?

Get paid. Enjoy their power. Run things a little longer. If you're a liberal MP and you know you will lose the next election, why wouldn't you at least stretch it out, three, six, nine months, to get as much from the -- from your job as possible. Get as much money, power, influence. I think the liberals will be smashed, but Trudeau will probably -- listen. He is stubborn. And he is a fighter.

I've never seen him apologize. I've never seen him quit.

He has a lot of flaws.

But tenacity is not one of them.

GLENN: How much of a role did the election of Donald Trump play in this?

Are you guys just -- right just behind us on what's happening here in America?

ANN: That's such a great question.

In a way, a Trump tweet started the dominoes falling.

GLENN: I knew it. I knew it.

ANN: About a month ago. About a month ago, Trump tweeted, 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada. If they don't seal their borders.

Stop the illegal drugs. Stop the illegal immigrants.

So it was -- and Mexico immediately got on the phone.

GLENN: Yeah. Hang on just a second.

Why did -- why does Canada have such a hard time with that?

Just, we need to you enforce your laws.

That's all we need!

EZRA: And Pierre Poilievre, the conservative thing said, look, I don't want to do those things because Donald Trump tells me to. I want to do those things because it's in Canadian interest.

And Trump is worried about fentanyl coming through Canada into the states.

Well, Canadians should be worried about that too. In fact, we are.

We have had a huge crime wave under Trudeau. So the smart, grown-up answer is okay. Trump is asking sort of roughly, like he's being a little bit -- he's got that.

GLENN: Yeah. He's Donald Trump.

ANN: He's walking softly, but carrying a big stick. Deal with him.

He's not asking Canadians for anything that we don't want.

Just do it.

But instead, one more thing at you, Glenn.

Here's my theory of why Trudeau is fighting.

As I mentioned. Trudeau is so low in the polls.

And this conservative leader is so high.

But what if Trudeau could flip it. And instead of running against Pierre Poilievre, the conservative leader. What if Trudeau would say, I'm running against Trump?

Because Trump is not that popular in Canada. Because the media has bashed him for two years.

GLENN: He needed that too.

EZRA: What if Trump -- it's even worse up here. It's even worse up here.

GLENN: Yeah, I know.

EZRA: But one more move, what if Trump actually implements the tariff on Canada. It hurts our economy.

So now Trudeau can say, this terrible economy is not my fault. It's trump's fault.

Vote for me, if you want to stand up to Trump. Vote for me if you don't like Trump. Vote for me.

GLENN: That's great strategy!

EZRA: I think Trudeau is willing to sacrifice Canada's economy, for this desperate chance to run and win again. That's my theory at least.

GLENN: You know what, to me, that makes sense.

And, you know what, honestly, to understand Donald Trump, you have to understand, he never -- when he's negotiating.

He never threatens.

He's never threatening.

He just makes promises.

If you do this, I'll do that.

If you do this, I'll do that.

And he will!

He will!

So he's not threatening. Just making promises.

EZRA: Well, and why wouldn't Canada say, all right. You've got our attention.

We agree, you've got a border problem.

By the way, it goes both ways. When Trump will deport a large amount of illegal migrants.

Some of them will say, oh, we better come into Canada because there's such a soft touch.

So we -- we have an interest in having a strong border. Because we don't want all the folks Trump is going to deport, including those who committed crimes.

GLENN: Correct, and those who will self-deport. Self-deport.

Yeah. All those Haitians, they are going to want to go to Montreal, a French-speaking city, rather than go back to Haiti. Wouldn't you?

We need a strong border, also.

Trudeau would rather fight with Trump, for the media kudos and then actually fix a problem. It's his last desperate chance.

But, you know what, I hope Canada comes back, and the Trump revolution. It's not just a political and economic one.

It's a freedom revolution.

Free speech. Elon Musk.

RFK Jr. Basically, rebuking the COVID mentality.

Hopefully some of that freedom will slosh into the border into us, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. One last thing. And we both have to run.

You have one in every 20 persons, now. Selecting suicide.

And more women are electing for euthanasia. Than -- than men are.

I mean, this is getting way out of control, euthanasia in Canada. Isn't it?

EZRA: And our Veterans Affairs department is suggest euthanasia for soldiers who have PTSD. If you say you're depressed, they will literally use that as a reason to give -- they call it MAID. Medical Assistance In Dying.

It's the new word for euthanasia. Canada is now ahead of the Netherlands for this.

Partly it's socialized medicine. Because if you kill someone, they won't cost 100 grand a year on intensive care. Part of it is also the war on the concept of life.

Trudeau is an absolutist for abortion. And this is an extension of sort of what eugenics approach.

It's dark days for those who value life in Canada, Glenn.

GLENN: I hope your theory is absolutely wrong.

But I've watched you long enough to know. Your theory is probably right.

I hope you're wrong though.

Thank you so much, Ezra.

EZRA: Thanks, Glenn. Buh-bye.

Biden Should be ASHAMED of These Pardons & Clemency Grants

President Biden has pardoned or granted clemency to TONS of people, including some controversial prisoners. Glenn and Stu review some of the worst, including a woman who stole $54 million from her small town and the “kids-for-cash” judge, who sent kids to a for-profit juvenile detention center in exchange for $2 million. Glenn and Stu also discuss the latest update in the Duke lacrosse case, where the woman who originally accused 3 players admitted to making the whole thing up. But has she found God since then?

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GLENN: You know, I have to -- I have to bring up the pardon thing. Because I -- I -- I don't -- what!

Apparently, Biden now has pardoned nine thousand people.

Like George Bush did 500.

And -- over eight years!

9,000 people. The only one close is Jimmy Carter, because he did 12,000 people, that had to go to Canada because they tried to avoid the Vietnam War.

So he just did a blanket pardon of 12,000 people.

This is 9,000 individuals.

STU: Yeah. Some of them work sort of in that blanket.

He did 1500 in one day. Which is the most that ever happened in that take.

There were more blanket. Here's a class of criminal.

In a certain situation.

But like, some of the specifics are really bizarre. Right?

This woman who built this town.

GLENN: Yeah. So there's a town, Dickson, Illinois, and it's a small town.

And this woman worked for the town, and she had opened up an account. And she was transferring money into her account.

And people are like, where is all the money going?

54 million dollars. Okay?

She -- I love the list of what she bought.

She bought like 400 horses.

And then like 80 acres of land.

Chuck have 400 horses on 80 acres of land.

STU: You can't. Why is that?

GLENN: Well, that's a lot of horses.

STU: As a person who grew up in New York.

Why is that a problem?

GLENN:

GLENN: That's not even grass!

STU: Not enough grass!

GLENN: You would to have year around, be feeding the horses.

STU: How much grass are these things eating? Calm down. Calm down.

Jeez. It's grass.

GLENN: Anyways, she bought, let's see, 400 horses, 48 trucks, luxury motor home. Classic cars. A boat. 80 acres of land.

Jewelry, personal credit cards. Business expenses. Furnishing for at least three homes.

Including a Florida vacation home.

STU: You would think, at some point, a small home. They would have caught this earlier.

GLENN: You have a new collection. And you work, what?

Where?

So, anyway, she goes on vacation, and the city is like, let's check her bank records. Her bank account. And so they get the warrant. They check her bank.

They arrest her.

She's 20 years.

She served four or five years of her time.

And she's like, I'm getting really old and sick.

And she's not that old.

And so the judge says, okay.

And this set the town on fire.

The judge said, okay.

Home arrest. Ankle bracelet. You cannot leave your home. Okay. If you're sick, and you're worried that your family will not see you and whatever, fine!

STU: Okay.

GLENN: That wasn't good enough for whoever is putting this one in front of Joe Biden?

He just said, you're not -- why?

STU: Yeah, why?

GLENN: Who suggested this one?

STU: Somebody.

It wasn't just a random -- like, he was just perusing the internet. Came across this story.

This person, who brought 400 horses for 80. 400 horses for 80 acres.

80 acres which, by the way, is too many horses on that many acres. I could be wrong, horse people. I could be wrong. Horse cows can't do it.

Horse people. They are horse people. They have the head and hands of horses. The rest of them are human. It's weird.

STU: Really? Oh, my God. I would say that's horrific, but that would be hateful. We shouldn't judge other people's cultures.

GLENN: They are just like people. They need people food, but they don't have fingers or thumbs.

STU: So they just eat grass.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I -- this isn't a random thing.

The way a lot of this works is somebody, who is tied to the administration.

GLENN: Okay. May I --

STU: Somebody who -- right.

Has a connection, or a person who has a connection to somebody else.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Gets message to somebody in the administration.

Hey. I like this person, I don't think they're that bad.

You should let them out.

GLENN: And that's -- that's not the way it -- let me just -- I'll tell you a story. I've never told on the air before.

There's a guy I know, who I think, it was caught up in something that he -- he didn't do.

Everything that I see, looks like he's been falsely accused. And it's just destroyed his life for many, many years.

And they -- they haven't sentenced him.

And he's like, waiting for the shoe to drop for like, at that time, two years.

That was four years ago.

And so his attorney called me, and he said, you know the president.

And I went through the case, and everything. And I thought, I think -- I think he's actually innocent.

So I called the president. Right after the new year. And I said, Mr. President, may I pitch you on a name?

We've already sent it to your vetters, so they're looking at it.

I just want to tell you -- got the shaft.

STU: You made a personal plea.

GLENN: I made a personal plea.

And we talked about it for a while.
And he said, okay. I would love to do that, but I have to look at the case.

I haven't heard of this case. I said, I understand. I want to put my name -- just put it on your radar. They looked at it. They disagreed. He wasn't pardoned.

But that's the way it happens.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Okay? Some lawyer gets information, to the White House.

And that lawyer knows somebody who knows somebody in the White House.

And they call and say, 9,000 pardons?

9,000. First of all, President Trump -- President Biden has no idea. There's no way you can go through 9,000.

How many lawyers at the White House, do they have, going over these cases, for 9,000 reversals?

STU: Right. They're just saying, likely, allegedly. Just saying yes to everybody who is asking --

GLENN: Why would you let this person go?

STU: It seems like a terrible one.

Someone who bilked the public for millions and millions and millions of dollars.

GLENN: Fifty-four millions dollars. That's a lot of money for say small town.

They had to cut services.

Okay. What about the one with the judge. Listen to this one.

STU: This is a story of a judge, long story short, basically was accused. And convicted of going through, taking people, and intentionally sentencing young people, juveniles, and young people.

From getting -- if I'm remembering all the details of this story correctly.

To prisons, in conjunction to someone who was running the prison.

And, of course, the --

GLENN: The prison makes money.

STU: It's a for-profit prison.

GLENN: The prison makes money, if they get more prisoners.

STU: Right. So they were sentencing people for prison time.

To line their pockets. And associate's pockets.

GLENN: That person, honestly. That's one of the worst crimes.

To me, that's up there with murder.

STU: I will say, I have seen some legitimate anger from the left on that in particular.

GLENN: That should be. That should be.

That's an assault on not just our laws.

That's not money.

That is putting -- that's taking somebody's liberty. And really, you live with that for the rest of your life. Your life!

For money?

The judge is doing that?

That person should never get out of prison. At least early!

I think that is one of the worst crimes I've heard.

STU: It's -- it's a really rough run.

You're talking about the lives of young people. Who might be able to turn their lives around. And who knows?

GLENN: Look at the story that came out, when was this?
Friday or Thursday of last week.

The girl who said, oh, by the way, the Duke lacrosse team. I did make that up.

Now. She didn't say it that way.

That's the way I heard it.

And I was outraged.

This person is should number jail. Well, she's already in jail. She murdered somebody. She's already in jail.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: But it looks like she's had a deep spiritual change in her.

Now, that doesn't mean, I'm going to say, you know what, let's forget the prison thing on the murder!

No.

STU: No.

GLENN: But she looks like she had a deep Jesus moment.

And she was clearing this up!

I think that is absolutely incredible, because the three boys that were charged, and everyone in the Duke lacrosse team, was smeared. But imagine being one of those three that were named.

Trying to get a job.

STU: Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. Horrible.

I had -- you mentioned, Glenn. I have a friend of a friend. Who is on the Duke lacrosse team. Was on that Duke lacrosse team.

Not one of the kids who was actually -- not even at the party. Not even at the party.

Were they not accused of doing anything wrong at the party.

But weren't at the party.

And the second they would get -- they would turn in a resume with someone. With duke and lacrosse on it. In that time period. They would just not get call backs from prospective employers.

Because of this.

And some of them would tell them. I can't hire somebody from the duke freaking lacrosse team.

Which is -- it's somewhat understandable, from an employer's perspective.

You would really have to be sure. Now, in that case, they should have been sure, because he wasn't even at the party.

Still, this was an awful slander beyond slander.

Of course, they wound up winning challenges.

GLENN: Yeah. But remember -- remember the name Nifong.

STU: Yeah. He was -- he stuck to it, even after.

GLENN: Oh, he was like, these guys are criminals, blah, blah, blah.

He just going and going and going. Said that it was, you know, racist. The entire team was racist. The school was racist.

I mean, somebody should pay a price for this.

You destroyed lives.

STU: If you remember the story, it was a stripper who went to a party.

And claims she was raped. Right?

GLENN: Right. But there was no DNA evidence. She was drunk and on drugs.

She left the party early.

Everyone she said was actually there, wasn't there.

STU: Many of them weren't.

Yeah. There's all sorts of problems. The case fell apart. There was a big scandal. She never came out and said, by the way, I was totally lying about that.

In the interim, she murdered her boyfriend with the kitchen knife.

GLENN: That happens. That happens to all of us.

STU: Went to prison. And has had what she claims is a -- is a transformation. I want to play this video for you. It's about a minute and a half long.

Glenn, do you buy this?

Does it seem real to you?

VOICE: The Bible says that you shouldn't do harm to your neighbor that lives trustingly beside you, and they were my brothers. And they trusted me that I wouldn't betray their trust.

And I testified falsely against them, by saying that they raped me, when they didn't.

And that was wrong.

And I betrayed the trust of a lot of other people, who believed in me.

And made up a story, that wasn't true. Because I wanted validation from people. And not from God.
And that was wrong. When God already loved me for who I was, regardless.

I didn't need to seek validation from him. Because I already have validation from him. I just didn't know it.

And I hurt my brothers.

And I hope that they can forgive me, and I want them to know that I love them.

And they didn't deserve it. And I hope that they can forgive me.

And the -- I hope that they can heal and trust God.

And know that God loves them. And the -- God is loving them, through me. Letting them know, that they're valuable, and that they didn't deserve that.

GLENN: Hmm.

STU: I think it's pretty interesting.

Now, it should be noted. She's got nothing to gain as far as getting out of prison. She murdered someone.

So she's not like on the verge of getting out. And this will help her.

This is --

GLENN: Well, it will help her eventually.

STU: It could.

GLENN: It could. Just admitting, you know, that you did it, and it was wrong. Is a big deal.

STU: Sure.

GLENN: She's not reacting the way I would have.

But, you know, I blubber all the time.

If I had done that. It would have been more emotional. But she may -- you know, it may not be the way she reacts.

STU: I will say, she initiated this happening. Right?

She called a reporter to come to do this.

GLENN: To talk about that.

STU: To talk about this. So, you know, she had it planned for a while. It wasn't off the top of her head.

GLENN: Okay. Yeah. That makes a difference.

I want to believe her.

I want to believe her.

God only knows, but I want to believe her.

Did Google Just PROVE Other Universes Exist?!

Google recently claimed that its new Willow quantum computing chip just proved the existence of "parallel universes." How is this possible and is it different from multiverse theory? Glenn and Stu discuss this incredible alleged discovery, as well as how the Willow chip was apparently able to solve a problem in 5 minutes that would have taken modern supercomputers 10 septillion years to solve. But at the same time, there's another incredible story that might be related: Bible sales have increased 22% year over year, especially print versions!

Transcript

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GLENN: Hello, America.

Let me -- let me just refresh your memory, where we were on Monday. Where we were on Monday, with Willow. Which is a new computer chip from Google, that they just -- they just tested.

With the new quantum computer.

Two years ago, we talked about quantum computing, because it -- it could process 54, what are called cubits.

That was astonishing at the time.

And I read article after article, once you get over 100, it's going to be like -- you won't believe what this can do.

And we're at the very beginning.

Two years, we were at 54.

We're at 155 cubits.

Cubit is a way to open up.

I don't even know how to explain it.

The universe.

And test a theory, and -- and search for all answers.

At the same time.

So right now, we have to think linearly.

We have to think, okay.

Two plus two is one.

No!

Two plus two is two? No. Two plus two is three. No! Two plus two is four.

Yes!

Okay. So it's ones and zeros. It's either a yes or a no. It doesn't have to be. But that -- we don't have to go into that. Yes or no.

And it tests all of them vertically instead of linearly. Got it?

So they can -- it can come up with answers, like nobody's business. And it -- it works with quantum physics. Which, quantum physics -- everything breaks down with quantum physics.

Einstein said, God doesn't play dice.

Well, if quantum physics is true, perhaps he does. A little bit.

Because the -- what they're finding now, especially since Monday!

Is one thing. First, they can solve the most complex problem, that we have ever tried to solve.

I don't even know what it is.

I would like to ask that question.

But it took this new quantum computer five minutes, to solve a problem.

That would have taken our best supercomputer, 10 septillion years, to solve it.

Go through the -- it's million, billion, trillion.

STU: Trillion. Quadrillion.

Quintillion.

Septillion.

GLENN: Okay. That's a lot.

In fact, they describe it as vastly more than the age of the entire universe.

STU: Quite an understatement there.

GLENN: Yeah. How old is the universe, they think?

STU: The accepted one is 13.8 billion years.

GLENN: Okay. 13.8 billion years.

This is 10 septillion years.

Would have taken to solve this problem. With our supercomputer.

I would like to ask the question: What was the question?

And what is the answer?

And how do you know it's right?

All right.

So now, that happened on Monday.

They announced that on Monday. Now, the guy who is the head of willow.

The guy who is in charge. He's the founder and leader of the Google AI team.

He's a physicist. He said, the result. The high speed result, I'm quoting, lends freedom to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes.

So -- I mean, you have to almost go to marvel to understand.

It's -- it's as if -- as if, when they put a question in, all the Spider-Man movies are stacked up on top of each other.

You know what I mean? Not the Spider-Man. You know, Spider-Man one, two, and three, with the same actor.

He's in one universe.

All the other ones with different actors. They're all happening at the same time.

Okay?

That's what it means for parallel universe.

And he says, it shows, that that's where the quantum computing is happening.

It's going -- it's actually opening up, and going into other universes.

It's fascinating. Do you want to hear why they think that, Stu?

GLENN: Sure.

GLENN: It's very nerdy, but it's really cool.

All right. So you know what a neutron and an electron does. Right? What does an electron do?

It circles. And it circles the neutron.

And the neutron, it -- reason why the electron circles it.

It acts as a force to keep the neutron in place.

Without the electron, it goes -- it just like explodes, and goes away.

STU: Okay.

GLENN: So you have to have the electron.

Going around it, to keep the neutron, in place.

The reason why they first came up with quantum physics, is the electron, when you observe it.

It disappears.

No. When you -- when you observe it, it's there.

When you don't observe it, it's there. And then not there.

There and not there.

There and not there.

And so it keeps going.

It just disappears.

STU: How do you know that?

GLENN: The energy.

The energy -- it's one of the other, if you observe or not.

I can't remember which.

It's been years.

The energy goes full, nothing.

Full nothing. Full, nothing.

And those nothing areas, the -- neutron should dissipate. Okay

What they thought, this is the theory. Is that it's actually flipping into several different universes, as it's going around to hold that neutron in place, in all these different universes.

Okay.

Crazy.

STU: This is really what they think.

Incredible.

GLENN: This is really what they think.

That's the theory!

So he's now saying, yep. This is had it proves that that theory, is where we're doing the computations.

In all these different universes.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Now, the problem is: Over the weekend, there was a massive nerd fight.

And another guy, who is an astrophysicist, Ethan Siegel. He says, that's ridiculous!

And the Google guy should know.

And he says, that has nothing to do with it.

Blah, blah, blah.

So there's a third fight on the -- can he said, parallel universe -- parallel universe, and multi-verse are very different.

Now, I don't even think Marvel can explain the difference.

I have no idea.

But that's the level of the nerd fight we're in.

However, here's what -- what's really cool is, at 54 cubits, okay?

So about half of what we have now, and don't ask me how this happened. I have no idea.

They opened some -- you know, a molecule. And they could measure it here.

And when it was turned on, or whatever.

I have no idea.

I'm sorry for everybody who is really past an eighth grade education.

I apologize here.

Your head will hurt.

They opened it somehow or thorough.

And they were observing it through Silicon Valley or wherever this is.

They opened the same one.

It appeared in London.

And they verified, that the changes they made in Silicon Valley. Were happening with the -- it's the same molecule.

And it was happening at the same time, someplace else. Isn't that nuts?

STU: What! Yes.

GLENN: They thought, at that time, at 54 cubits, they thought, that is going to lead us to the discovery of how to travel without airplanes and everything else.

STU: Instantaneous travel.

GLENN: Instantaneous travel. That would be incredible.

STU: Uh-huh. Yes!

GLENN: Okay.

So all of these things are coming up. Now, listen to this.

What they say is: This is such big news, because we're going to be able to solve some of the biggest problems.

Okay. I want to know what the first question. Are you interested in what the first question was?

That took that. Okay. I don't know what it is.

I'm sure it's just mathematical. But I don't know what it is. I would like to know. And do you think that these are our biggest problems?

When you have the most powerful, they're saying, it will tell us how to make batteries better.

Really? That's what we're going for.

We're going for, how batteries can be made better?

They said, also, it could -- it could further humanity by curing some diseases.

Some diseases?

STU: It could be big. It could be maybe --

GLENN: Yeah. I think that might be an understatement. You're opening all this up. Yep, we'll be able to drive for 400 miles. Maybe as much as 700 miles an hour.

Come on. Come on.

There's got to be something bigger than that.

So, anyway, as all of this is happening. And makes no sense. To anybody, I think, all of the scientists are even bluffing.

They don't know what they're talking about.

It makes no sense. Let me give you this story!

New sales data from BookScan shows that Bible sales have increased 22 percent through October of this year! Compared to the same period last year.

I don't know if you know this, Bible sales have been going down for maybe about 100 years. Went up 22 percent this year!

In the first ten months of the year, American -- Americans purchased 13.7 million Bibles. Which, Bibles now are on track to suppress -- to surpass last year's 14.2 million!

Here's why it matters.

Over the same period of time, print book sales, increased less than 1 percent.

So people are -- you can get it online.

People are actually going out and buying paper Bibles, for their house and their family.

At unheard of rates. When everywhere else, the Bible is going down.

Why is that happening?

Try to relate it to the first story, I just gave you.

Nothing makes sense!

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Nothing makes sense in our world. You're like, I -- what?

STU: People are looking for foundational --

GLENN: They're looking for foundational truths.

The world is changing so rapidly. And nothing makes sense. This is really good news.

Seeing that, that's the first sign of -- of an awakening.

Where people get so disillusioned with things, they realize their lives, the country, war, science, everything is out of control!

There are no experts to listen to.

That you're like, okay. Maybe I should start listening to myself, and is there something bigger than me? That makes sense.

This is an extraordinarily good sign!

As the world makes less and less sense, the only way to solve this is a return to universal principles.

And -- and it will still -- I -- do you know that the Big Bang theory was developed by scientists? Developed by scientists, and they used it, at first, the religious people, used it at first, to say the Big Bang theory, proves God exists.

And so science at that time, accepted it for a little while.

Then they were, no, no, no. It doesn't prove -- it just started. And it started as, well, that's the way God created it.

So God lit a match. Happened to the Big Bang. That explains your expanded universe and everything else.

Now scientists use that, because they cut the original part of the theory out, that God lit the match.

And it leaves you with the question, I've asked a million times.

Right. Big Bang.

But what lit the match?

What was just before it?

Where did all of that come from?

Who started the fire?

That was part of the original Big Bang theory! God. And they conveniently axed that part, to now disprove God.

We don't know what the answers are. And with quantum computing, the world will look.

And science will look very different, very fast. But there are certain truths, that used to be self-evident.

That are eternal. And we're looking for them, in record numbers!

Is This PROOF Jill Biden Voted Against Kamala Harris?

Glenn’s seen enough to be convinced that Jill Biden not only despises Kamala Harris, but voted against her. First, there was the red dress the First Lady wore to the voting booth. Then, there was the moment at the Kennedy Center, where the Bidens and Harrises appeared to not even look at each other. And finally, there was Jill Biden’s recent apparent jab while speaking to the press. Glenn reviews the clip, where the First Lady used the word “joy” in a similar way to the Harris campaign, and he points out the moment that he was convinced Jill did it on purpose.

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. So on the -- on the day of the election, what was Jill Biden wearing when she came out smiling after the vote?

STU: Red. Famously red.

GLENN: Okay. And I thought, okay. Maybe.

I mean, she has a blue vote dress, that she's worn before. I don't know if you ever saw that. She wore it like in a convention or something.
And it says "vote" on it.

STU: That sounds terrible.

GLENN: It was pretty terrible. But if you want to send a message of voting and voting blue. That's what you would wear.

STU: Also, but you wouldn't have to send a message with every outfit.

GLENN: Amen to that. So I'm like, okay. Maybe. I think you're read too much into it.

Then they don't talk to each other anymore.

This week, all of a sudden, they're at the Kennedy center, sitting next to each other. Okay?

The Bidens and the Harrises sitting next to each other, Bidens -- they don't -- she is sitting right next to Kamala.

They don't -- Kamala never turns -- I mean, sorry.

Biden never turns and even says, hello.

Doesn't look her way, the entire time. Now, how do you do that?

That takes effort. That takes control.

Okay. So there's no love lost there. Now, here's where I'm going to prove to you, they despise her. And she voted against Kamala.

This is what happened at the White House, yesterday.

She was on prompter. She was talking about Christmas.

And then she uses the word joy, in her speech.

And then she says this: Listen.

VOICE: So I hope that you all feel that sense of, you know, peace and light and that just for a moment, when you leave here today, that you feel, I don't know, a little -- a sense of joy. Because I think we all need like this -- you know, we all need to feel joy now.

During this -- this time of the season. During -- just during this time.

So, anyway, okay. Now, I'll start.

You're all reading into that.

GLENN: Okay. If you're watching Blaze TV, you may have spotted what I just spot. Spotted.

But play the last ten seconds of that back, if you can. And if you can't, just play the whole thing.

VOICE: You know, we all need to feel joy now during this -- this time of the season.

GLENN: Okay. A word. If you're aware. You don't use at this point, but okay. She's using it.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Go ahead. Keep playing it.

VOICE: Because I think we all need like this -- you know, we all need to feel joy now during this -- this time of the season. During -- just during this time.

GLENN: Stop! Just during this time.

Not just the time of the season, just during this time.

So now he's narrowing it down to there are problems, okay?

And we should feel joy.

Well, that was the campaign slogan, there are problems.

But we have joy, and we're going to solve them.

Now, here's -- here's where it cuts the throat.

Listen to the audience, and then if you're watching Blaze TV, watch her eyes.

Watch her movements.

You -- it's very easy to lie. But your body will always give -- unless you're a great actor or actress. Your body will give away the lie.

Your body will not act the same way as your mouth and even your eyes. Her eyes and her body betray her here.

Watch.

VOICE: During -- just during this time. So, anyway, okay. Now, I'll start.

You're all reading into that.

GLENN: She did not look at the crowd. If that's happening naturally, that would have easily been, if she didn't even think of that connection, you would have immediately looked at the crowd. Your eyes would have darted back and forth.

Like, what am I missing? And you might have even said, I'm sorry. What did I say?

Okay. Her eyes didn't dart.

She didn't -- she wasn't startled by it. She just leaned down to the microphone, and said, okay. You're reading too much into that.

I'm sorry. No. Nope. That was intentional.

That was she despises Kamala Harris. Despises her.

Disagree with that?

STU: I mean, I could see it. I don't know that I'm convinced as you are. I mean, joy say word associated with the holiday season. You can easily toss that out there.

GLENN: That's why it's fine, in this season.

STU: But she just seems to be stuttering looking around trying to get to the end there. I don't know. I think it's possible. But it's interesting.

And I'm not a fan of Kamala Harris. You may know that.

GLENN: Really? You didn't vote for her?

STU: No. No.

At veepthoughts.com, you can watch all of her greatest hits. But like, is she the one to get mad at for the Bidens? What did she do here?

GLENN: I think she feels. I think the Bidens feel that she was knifing them.

Remember --

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: I know. I think it's the Obamas.

STU: And Pelosi.

GLENN: And Pelosi. Which I don't think they've talked to Pelosi since, have they?

STU: No. I think that one is real.

I think this one is real too.

I just don't know it makes all that much sense. Kamala Harris.

GLENN: Since when have the Bidens made sense?

STU: That's true. That's true.

He's famously just stutters his way through nonsensical jabbering.

But I just feel like, you know, I will say this, for Kamala Harris.

From the Joe Biden perspective.

She -- she -- her opportunity to become president of the United States, was to say, he did a bad job.

If she would have said that, she would have had a chance, at winning that election. If she would have said, look, I talked to Joe behind the scenes.

I tried to get him to move on the border. He had a different vision.

And what happened it didn't work. So I fought, fought, and fought. And finally we got those rules changed.

I know it's nonsense and BS. She could have taken an attack to make him.

GLENN: I know. And she never did.

STU: She never did. In fact, she went on The View, and said she couldn't think of anything that she would have changed in the entire administration.

GLENN: Because that's also true. She couldn't think of anything.

STU: It is true! But that's -- what does that have to do with anything?

GLENN: You're forgetting, on that particular one, you're forgetting how stupid she is.

STU: Okay. That could be. Again, whatever the reason is, she didn't go after the 25th Amendment. She didn't leak to the media, that he was having these moments behind the scenes, throughout three and a half years of the presidency.

I don't think there's a good case, that the problem with Kamala Harris from the left's perspective is that she wasn't too disloyal to Joe Biden.

GLENN: All right. All right.

Let me share one of -- I want to share something that I've been thinking about lately, on somebody I have to call. And make amends to.

Let me share a story, I don't think you even know. Okay? A bad story about me.

STU: Oh, gosh.

Open up the book. Do we have to add another chapter?

GLENN: You will never guess where this is happening, hiding my alcoholism in Baltimore.

Yeah, strange.

All right. So this company, that I was working for, was playing around with our contracts and stuff.

And they -- they wanted to hire me. But I was partnered with Pat. And we were best friends.

And we were killing it.

But they just didn't want to pay Pat.

And I said, I'll renew my contract. If you renew Pat's contract. So we can continue on.

They said, fine.

So they did. As soon as we signed the contract, they just invoked the clause to pay him off.

And got rid of him. And replaced him with someone else.

Without me knowing anything about it. Okay?

STU: I remember the outline of the story. Which is typical radio, by the way.

GLENN: Typical radio. Just knife you in the back. Lock me in for five years.

And the guy who I've wanted to partner with forever, gone.

STU: Yeah. Gone.

GLENN: Okay? For no reason whatsoever.

And so I'm working with my attorneys. And they're like, Glenn. There's not much you can do.

And I'm like, oh, yeah, there is.

Oh, there's lots I can do.

And so this guy named Larry Wax. Came in.

And it was his big shot. To be on, you know, Baltimore radio.

And he was very excited.

And he would --

STU: You were not excited.

GLENN: No. No.

And I did not participate in, you know, helping plan the show.

He would plan the whole show. Okay. Because he knew.

Hmm, I'll just follow you.

STU: So you were so angry.

You were protesting essentially.

GLENN: Yeah. I'll follow you. Which you know me, I've never done that.

My name was first on the show.

Larry, you go ahead and tell me what we're going to do.

And he would say, okay.

Right before the break. We'll end here. But I'll say this. And you'll say this.

And then we'll get into this conversation about this, see where it goes. But we're ending here.

Okay. He would open up the mic.

And he would say, so what did you do last night.

And I was supposed to say, oh, I watched Netflix.

And I said, I didn't do anything. I went to bed early. And he would just look at me, like what the hell --

STU: What a jerk.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I destroyed everything. And I eventually, I apologized to him. I said, Larry, this is not. I'm sorry.

Because he looked at me with these big sad eyes. And he's like, Glenn, you're killing me, man.

And I'm like, I know. But they signed me to a five-year contract, and I'm not going to be here for five years.

I'm not doing it.

STU: So you're trying to get yourself fired.

GLENN: I'm trying to get myself fired. Because I didn't have an option out.

And I just looked at him -- towards the end, I really felt bad.

And I was like, I'm sorry, Larry.

I know I'm destroying your one shot.

STU: Oh, my gosh.

GLENN: I mean, it was horrible.

And I feel -- he's been coming to mind so much. I don't even know where he is. I don't know what happened afterwards.

And I feel really bad -- feel like I should call him and say, hey, Larry, please tell me you're not like in the sanitation industry now. Please tell me that you had some success afterwards.

STU: In the industry.

GLENN: That I didn't --

STU: So wait. You never -- lost are contact with the guy. Never kind of talked this out?

GLENN: You would be surprised. We didn't have a good relationship.
(laughter)

STU: Oh. So you were bringing that up on the Kamala Harris context.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: We think that she was maybe --

GLENN: It doesn't matter if it was her.

She was the tool used to take her -- no matter how nice she was to have.

Larry was very kind to me, and gracious on the air. Okay? I was not having any of it. I was never mean to him, but I would never play along.

STU: You were not helpful.

GLENN: Not helpful at all.

All right. That's what I think is happening with Kamala.

First of all, she has a record of knifing her boss in the back.

STU: Totally. In fact, that is her specialty.

One talent she has. Although some former mayors of Los Angeles have ideas about her talents, but generally speaking, the one talent she has is behind the scenes -- for power.

GLENN: Right. Right. But I have absolutely no evidence of that, other than her history.

I don't know. She seemed to be very kind and everything else. And very gracious about it. But she was at least the tool -- she was his -- Larry Wax. Sorry, Larry, if you're listening.

I really mean that. It's been bothering me. I'm going to try to find you.

I'm sorry.

But that's what it is. That's what it is.

STU: Because I think you could make the argument that Biden was doing that to her, the entire term.

Like, she was always positive about her.

But then would -- the entire administration was leaking negative things about Kamala for three and a half years.

GLENN: I don't know though, that was necessarily him.

I think it -- I mean, all the stories were everyone hates her.

Everyone around her. Everyone in her office, hates her!

Okay?

So I don't know if that was necessarily Joe Biden going, let's come up with some bad things.

I just think everybody hated her, like she's a nightmare.

Now, he did set her up on things like, you're the border czar.

STU: Yeah. I mean, he sunk her.

Again, she's terrible.

And never really had a chance at success.

In her political career.

But I will say, you know, he didn't help.

GLENN: Now, you might be asking yourself. Why are you guys debating this?

Because in about six months, no one will remember her name.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: So if we're going to talk about it, we have to talk about it right now.

STU: And we already are there with Tim Walz, which I love. We've already forgotten him, unless you happen to live in Minnesota.

GLENN: Yeah. And you're remembering it going, what the hell did I do?