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Charlie's Last Stand: Terri Schiavo's Brother Calls From London With an Update on Charlie Gard

Should the government be able to choose when a child dies? The parents of Charlie Gard are fighting tooth and nail for their parental in Britain’s High Court to determine just that.

Bobby Schindler, brother of Terri Schiavo and founder of LifeAndHope.com, joined Glenn on radio Thursday to talk about the tragic Charlie Gard story.

Charlie is an 11-month-old baby in London with a rare genetic condition that doctors say is terminal. His parents want to take him to the U.S. for experimental medical care and have raised the money to do it, but the European Court of Human Rights has ordered the hospital to remove his life support so he can die “with dignity.”

Charlie Gard: Parents Storm out as U.K. Court Hears Sick Baby’s Case

Schindler understands all too well a court ordering your loved one to death. Terri Schiavo went into a coma in 1990, living in a mostly unresponsive state for 15 years. When her family fought to keep her alive, her case became a flashpoint for the “right to die” debate concerning patients on life support. Michael Schiavo, Terri’s husband, won the case and had her feeding tube removed in March 2005. She died 13 days later.

Visiting Charlie’s parents in London, Schindler noticed the toll the ordeal had taken on the couple.

“This is just day-to-day torture for them, not knowing,” Schindler said.

Schindler theorized that the U.K. hospital can’t take the risk of releasing the child to the U.S. for experimental treatment and their diagnosis being proven wrong. Charlie’s parents raised more than $1 million to take him to the U.S. for treatment, and President Donald Trump has offered U.S. assistance. The Vatican children’s hospital in Rome has also offered to provide care.

During today's court hearing, Charlie's parents stormed out of court after reacting to comments made by the judge. They returned about an hour later.

GLENN: The parents of a baby that has been born with a rare disease returned to court today in London, hoping for a fresh analysis of their wish to take their critically ill child to the United States for treatment. The United States has doctors that will treat. They have money to treat. The Vatican and the pope have said, "We'll give the parents and the baby a passport for the Vatican so we can take the child out and transfer him even to the -- the Vatican hospital in Rome." For some reason, the government health care system -- and I hate to break it to you, but this is what we spoke of when we talked about death panels. The court system, along with the doctors, have decided there's no chance for this baby to live. And even if they have the money, they are not allowed to take the child out of the hospital and get any treatment anyplace else. I have to tell you, if that were my child -- I said yesterday that I would relinquish my citizenship in that country, and I would never return home again.

I said that to Jason, a friend of ours, yesterday. He said, "Are you kidding me? I'm sorry. But I would grab a gun, and I would free my child from the hospital." You wouldn't get away with that, and that would be a very bad idea. But wouldn't you feel that way?

We have Bobby Schindler on. He is Terri Schiavo's brother. He founded the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network. If you believe in life and you know what's going on, you're paying attention at all, get involved at lifeandhope.com. Lifeandhope.com.

Bobby, welcome to the program.

BOBBY: Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me. It's good to talk to you.

GLENN: You are in London right now?

BOBBY: Actually, I was over there for four days. I had to get back -- I got back on Tuesday. Back in the states. But I was over there, and I visited with the parents for a few days. And I also had the opportunity to visit with that Charlie.

GLENN: So, Bobby, what is happening with Charlie? How are the parents, first of all?

BOBBY: Well, as you can imagine, Glenn, this is just day-to-day torture for them, not knowing if today or tomorrow is going to be the day where the hospital removes his ventilator. So you can tell it's taking its toll. But they're a strong -- they're a strong couple. They're very humble. They're fighting for the life of their child. And I think why they're getting so much support is because parents can relate to what they're going through, as you just alluded to when you were talking about the case.

GLENN: Bobby, what do they do for a living? What kind of people are there? Are they upper class, middle class, lower class? Who are they?

BOBBY: Yeah, I'm not sure. Just blue-collar. I think Connie was just a stay-at-home mom. I'm not exactly sure what the father was doing. But he hasn't worked in several weeks now, just really being attentive to the struggle that they're going through. And I certainly could sympathize and empathize, just this turmoil and just as I said, this torture they're experiencing right now.

GLENN: Bobby, I remember when we were in Tampa together. And at first, I was on the other side of your sister's argument. And then I actually did my homework and woke up and met you guys. And I'll never forget the look on -- in your mother's eyes and your father's eyes. And even you, for a long time even after, you just -- you look tired. Your whole family. Your sister, everybody, just tired.

And I remember in Tampa how the sides had been drawn. And the people who were chanting for your sister to die was -- it was surreal. It was -- it was almost, quite honestly, like what's happening now between, you know, political rivals, where just -- the hatred on one side was so strong. Is that happening with his parents?

How are the people in London and England responding to this?

BOBBY: Well, first, I got to say, Glenn, that this type of thing that Charlie's parents are going through is happening here in the states. We've been doing this for 12 years after Terry died. And we're seeing this, this erosion of our medical rights, parental rights. It's taking place more and more across countless health care facilities in our country.

But what I -- there's a disconnect, Glenn. I was in a hearing on Monday, and I was watching these attorneys for the hospital argue their case. And --

GLENN: What is their case?

BOBBY: Completely unsympathetic, Glenn. It was just coldheartedness. And it was the same type of position that I saw taken with the people that were representing Michael, trying to end my sister's life. They're just -- I don't know how to explain it, other than there's a disconnect I think to really the value of life or the dignity of life or the preciousness of this little child and the treatment that's available for him.

GLENN: Okay. So here -- in your sister's case -- and I don't mean to be callous, but we've had these kinds of conversations before. And you've heard them a million times.

In your sister's case, people could see themselves as your sister and say, "I wouldn't want to live that way." And that's -- that was the thing that motivated so many people, is I wouldn't want to live that way.

And even though the family -- your family offered to take her into the home to care for her, to cover all the costs. You wanted nothing, but your sister to have a chance to have therapy and to live.

People picked sides because they were afraid of -- of having to linger themselves, I really believe.

Here, the family has great doctors overseas. They have the money. They have everything.

What is the -- and usually, people don't say -- look at a child and say, oh, we got to kill him.

What is the -- what's the emotional attachment that the hospital is using to sell this killing?

BOBBY: Well, perhaps I'm oversimplifying it, Glenn. And this is just my opinion. But if you look at -- they diagnosed this boy in the beginning as having no chance, and no treatment was going to help him. Now doctors come along. And I think there's more than one doctor that's come along and said, there is treatment available that will help him. That will help this little boy.

Now, that put the hospital in a terrible and a very dangerous situation. Because if they release him and they allow this treatment to -- they provide or allow the parents to provide this treatment and Charlie improves, well, now they have to sit back and defend themselves why they made this poor diagnosis in the first place. So I think they're scared to death of him possibly getting help or improving from treatment that's available after they basically said this poor boy is suffering. Nothing is ever going to help him.

GLENN: That's a pretty -- I mean, Mike (sic), let me just play devil's advocate. Talking to Bobby Schindler, Terry Schiavo's bother, who is the founder of lifeandhope.com and deals with these issues.

That's a pretty horrible way to look at doctors. I mean, are doctors really at that place with children?

BOBBY: Well, that's my interpretation. But it makes sense to me. And also, think about it this way, Glenn. If they are wrong and Charlie does improve from treatment out there, think about all the other families now that are being cared for in that hospital. They're going to start questioning. Perhaps they don't agree with the diagnosis that they're getting for their child because it is a children's hospital. So they now might have to face more and more parents questioning diagnoses that are coming from the doctor to the hospital. So I think there's a lot at stake here. And I think it's in the hospital's best interest, not to see Charlie get better. And that's the only way I can explain why they're fighting so hard to kill this kid, when there's treatment -- Glenn, when I was fighting for my sister and we were on the media, I got to tell you, most of the media was taking Michael's side and asking those questions you were just raising. When I was doing media interviews over in London this week -- and I did quite a few of them -- I was -- they were on our side. I mean, not my side. They were on the parents' side and Charlie's side. Nobody could understand why the hospital -- well, they were all defending Charlie. So the interviews were pretty easy because the media wasn't asking me any of the tough questions, like they were for my sister. And they were in agreement for wanting to get Charlie the help that's out for them.

GLENN: Wow. Wow.

Bobby, you said a minute ago that this is happening in the United States. Can you -- how often? Why aren't we hearing about it?

Can you give us some examples of this happening?

BOBBY: Well, it's obvious, Glenn. You could probably guess why we're seeing this happen. Hospitals now -- and, again, I'm oversimplifying it. And I'm not trying to paint a broad brush. But I think hospitals now are acting in their best interests, rather than patients. And I think we're seeing values imposed by ethics committees and hospitals. And I think it's -- look, it's a lot cheaper, Glenn, to end -- if they look at somebody that comes in with a significant brain injury, for example, and they look at this person and they say to themselves, "Boy, he's going to need months of care. And it's going to be expensive. And we don't even know if he's going to improve or how much he's going to improve, at least from the onset." And if they're in a position where they can stop treatment, which they are today -- I mean, if you're looking at it from a purely financial point of view, the hospital's best interest is to say, "Okay. Listen, this person's life is going to cost a lot of money. He's not going to get much better anyway." So then they go in and tell the parents. They give them this poor diagnosis. And they say, "Look, you don't want to end up like a Terry Schiavo, so to speak. You know, why don't you do what's best for this person. Put him out of his suffering and end his life." And they have the legal means now to do this. And I could go into the reasons.

GLENN: Have you run into people who have had your sister used by doctors like that?

BOBBY: Yes. There was an article actually.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

BOBBY: And people tell me this all the time. I shouldn't say all the time. But I do hear it occasionally.

GLENN: Yeah.

BOBBY: Where they do bring up my sister. And there was actually an article -- I read it one time -- where the family said that the doctors told them that your son or your daughter, whoever it was at the time, is going to end up like a Terri Schiavo. And it's in your best interest to end or terminate that person's life. It's terrible. Terrible.

GLENN: How does that make you and your sister feel?

BOBBY: Well, I just think it shows you just the biases and the way we've been desensitized to just the value of human life. When we look at someone with a brain injury, and we want to just decide to end their life instead of care for them. It's just systemic to the problem we have in our culture today.

GLENN: Is this a cultural thing or is this a socialized medicine thing?

BOBBY: Well, I think it's a combination, Glenn. I think there's a lot of dynamics occurring today.

And, again, you know, you look at the food and water issue and how it's been reclassified, where food and water now is medical treatment rather than basic care.

GLENN: Right.

BOBBY: And all these changes that have been made in our health care system today that put more and more people at risk. And we're not even aware. I mean, people walk into a hospital situation, and they don't even understand that hospitals now and physicians make treatment -- you know, treatment decisions, rather than families. And depending on the situation. And I don't know if you saw recently what they tried to pass in Oregon, where they tried to pass -- and this was just the past couple of months, where they tried to make spoon feeding for those that weren't able to feed themselves with a spoon, as a form of medical treatment. And, therefore --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

BOBBY: Yeah. I mean, this is where we're heading. This constant push to impose values, you know, on people rather than family members, on what's their best treatment options? And make it easier and easier to end people's lives because of cost. And it was the lobby -- lobby industry that was pushing this in Oregon to try and get this legislation passed.

GLENN: Bobby -- you go to lifeandhope.com.

What can people do to help? What are you doing, and how can people get involved?

BOBBY: Yeah, I think the way people need to help themselves is become patient advocates. Understand your rights. If you are -- and appoint someone who is a strong -- we need heroic advocates, Glenn, that are going to stand in and defend you if you're in a situation where you need certain treatment and the hospital is pushing back. You need to know your rights and how to defend loved ones if something like this happens to you. Because I'm telling you -- and, again, there's some -- please don't get me wrong on this. There's some wonderful facilities out there, and we deal with great doctors all the time, and nurses. But there is this shift where we are now making quality-of-life judgments. Or, I should say the health care system is making quality-of-life judgments whether someone should live or die, based on their quality of life. And we need to understand that this is happening. And we need to know how to defend ourselves if it does.

GLENN: If you would like to get involved in Stand for Life because it may be you that can't lift the spoon and they deem that as medical treatment. Go to lifeandhope.com. That's lifeandhope.com. Bobby, best of luck. It's always good to talk to you. Thank you so much. God bless.

BOBBY: Thanks, Glenn. God bless you.

GLENN: You bet. This guy is one of the most remarkable people I've met. Really, truly. And I just don't know how to help because so many people just don't want to hear about this stuff. And he is on the front lines every day. And he has not stopped. His life changed --

JEFFY: It has been now forever.

GLENN: It's been forever. His whole life now has been dedicated because his sister was under attack. And this whole family has just -- what they have endured and what they have done because of it is remarkable. You want to stand with some really good people who are fighting, go to lifeandhope.com.

Why You Must Prepare for the Left’s CHAOS If Trump Wins | Ep 390

We are less than a week from the 2024 election. In 2020 at this time, Glenn was busy warning about some of the dirty tricks the Left was “war gaming.” It involved everything from mass protests and street demonstrations to secession. Serious Democrats in positions of power and influence were strategizing behind the scenes. And in 2024, they’re doubling down. Glenn warns that we need to start preparing for what happens if Donald Trump wins on November 5 or if the race is close. Marc Elias, the Democrats’ main lawfare operative, has already declared that this election year is “the most litigious in American history.” Kamala Harris has bragged that they have “teams of lawyers” at the ready. Democratic congressmen have hinted they might not certify the election if Trump wins. And the media is declaring that Trump might try to steal the election. Asra Nomani, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and “Woke Army” author, has been tracking the foot soldiers’ plans for the election and the weeks after. She says Trump MUST win by a landslide or the fight “will go from the courts to the streets.” She uncovered an orchestrated effort by progressive institutions and organizations that are getting support from “like-minded ideologues in China, Iran, Russia, and North Korea.” Their end goal? CHAOS. Glenn asks a final, chilling question: Are the Left’s election war games connected to a recent revision in DoD Directive 5240.01 that addresses the use of "lethal" military force against Americans? Whatever may happen, Glenn is sure of one thing: Americans MUST VOTE as soon as possible. We cannot stay silent.

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PROPAGANDA EXPOSED: No, Trump didn't call for Liz Cheney’s execution

Some in the mainstream media are claiming that Donald Trump (who survived 2 assassination attempts) called for the execution of former Rep. Liz Cheney by firing squad. But Glenn and Stu review the clip and explain why that’s an outright LIE. Trump was clearly suggesting that Cheney wouldn’t be a “warmonger” if she actually experienced war herself. But the media has become a propaganda arm for the Democratic Party, so it will keep on lying its way to the election …

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I was thinking about the Liz Cheney thing you talked about earlier.

Where Donald Trump -- who would have thought, Glenn. That, by the way, the source of all violent rhetoric was the person shot on stage?

It's odd!

Really, Shyamalan-esque, with that twist.

GLENN: Really weird. That's the only reason they're making a big deal out of this.

That and -- that and they want to say, he's a fascist, that will shoot everybody who disagrees with him.

STU: Right. It just seems like a strange approach, to say, well, you know, our closing argument is? He is going to shoot Liz Cheney!

He's almost been shot multiple times in front of our eyes. It doesn't seem like the right approach.

GLENN: And he wasn't given a gun, by the way. He was recommending -- he was talking about war.

Give her a gun. And have nine rifles, you know, target her.

Let's see how she feels then.

He's talking about war.

STU: It's a very standard. Honestly, liberal talking point about war.

And Trump has been this way consistently for a very long time.

He probably made that same point about Bush and Cheney in 2004.

Right?

I mean -- but I was thinking about this, as everyone was doing the Liz Cheney thing. And she's on stage, campaigning with Kamala Harris everywhere.

Can you imagine. We all have a use for a time machine.

Okay?

Sure, going back and killing Baby Hitler is something you might do from it.

But one thing I have to put in the rotation. If I had the time machine. Go back to 2004, 2005, and just tell Dick Cheney, what is going to happen in 2024. That he and his daughter are going to be the heroes of the left. What a freaking bizarre thing!

GLENN: Oh, he was Darth Vader.

STU: He was the most hated person in the world.

GLENN: He still is Darth Vader to them.

STU: Now that he's endorsed Kamala Harris. I don't think that is --

GLENN: You think he's going over to dinner at people's houses? You think they fully embraced him? No way.

STU: I don't know. Maybe. I kind of feel like --

GLENN: Of course. They're for -- they're for big business now. I mean, they are everything they ever said they were against.

STU: And I feel like, you know, the -- Dick Cheney's comments have been. He did endorse Harris.

Which is incredible.

GLENN: Incredible.

STU: But, you know, his comments weren't -- haven't been as egregious as Liz Cheney's. Who, again, we should remind everybody.

It's not like a Never Trumper. It's not like the person who is like, I don't know about this.

Liz Cheney voted for Donald Trump in 2020! This is a person who wanted Donald Trump to be president right now!

That was her vote. And here she is, as the most -- she's gone completely off the reservation. And I was thinking, how many -- how many of these stories can we tell like this?

Roseanne Barr would be one of them. Roseanne Barr couldn't stand you at one point.

GLENN: I don't think we need to --

STU: She's not on the phone yet. I can talk about this. She's probably asleep.

No. But she -- is it Arguing with Idiots.

GLENN: Yeah. Here it is. Here it is. Glenn Beck, he's a vampire and a death lover. That's what Roseanne Barr said about me.

STU: Right. It was used about, we always put quotes on the back of these books. Keith Olbermann. You know, many of these people still hate you.

GLENN: I'm proud.

STU: Whoopi Goldberg. Which, by the way, called you a lying sack of dog mess.

GLENN: Yeah, she's a piece of --

STU: Keith Olbermann.

Only in his wildest dreams could an actual suicide bomber hope to do as much damage to this country.

There's all sorts of great stuff like this. And we do this for several books in a row.

Roseanne was one of them. I want to say, RFK Jr. was another one, on one of the backs of the books.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I think he called for my execution.

STU: Well, he did want you dead at one point. I don't think he does anymore, though.

GLENN: No, he doesn't, and I kind of liked him!

STU: Yeah, it's just -- it's weird how this stuff happens. It really is.

GLENN: It is. That's what we were texting back and forth, yesterday, Roseanne and I. And I was like, weren't you a Communist at some point?

Didn't you -- weren't you, hey, go Marx!

And she was like, no, I went to the Occupy Wall Street thing, to see what they were doing.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And she said, and everybody roped me in to that movement.

She said, I saw them as rich kids, protesting daddy, who worked on Wall Street. She said, I hate the corruption in the big businesses.

She's like no commies, man. I want a return, right?

STU: I don't think that's right.

GLENN: I know!

I think that's revisionist.

STU: We will have to ask her about this. If my remembrance is correct here. She ran for the green party nomination, and did not win it. And actually did wind up being the nominee at the peace and freedom party, which is legitimately to the left of the Green Party.

It is an outward Socialist Party!

Now, a lot of people, sometimes you take a nomination because it's convenient. They've got a ballot and a line somewhere.

That stuff could happen, so it could be something like that. I don't know. But that's what I remember from the situation. You know, but who knows?

GLENN: Now she's the queen of the garbage people.

STU: That's crazy!

GLENN: I know. Crazy!

STU: Tulsi Gabbard.

Tulsi Gabbard was running Bernie Sanders' campaign in 2016 in Hawaii.

GLENN: By the way, I will take -- I will take one Tulsi for the entire Cheney family. That's a good trade.

STU: I like that.

I will -- some of these figures, that we've been embraced, I'm not a big fan of. Tulsi I like though. She's just really -- she's smart. I like how calm and balanced she is.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Even though, I don't think I agree with her on a lot of things.

And I am, I will say, concerned if Trump wins. That some of these people will have roles that are a little bit too large about --

GLENN: You know what he said about RFK?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: His people came out and said, he's not talking about a cabinet position. And he said RFK doesn't want one. He will put him in charge of studies and coming back, show us what the problem is.

STU: But what I liked about Trump's comments on this. Is I don't want him anywhere near the environment. Good. As long as --

GLENN: Good. And he's openly saying it. He's not trying to convince anybody -- which I absolutely love.

Let me ask you.

Who is the brain trust around Kamala Harris?

STU: I mean, it's --

GLENN: Right. You don't even know. You have no idea.

STU: Because all the people in the Biden administration hate her. Now, some of them I'm sure are trying to latch on to her now. But they've been leaking bad stuff about her for years. She has a couple of people around her. Her sister is a big one.

GLENN: Right.

STU: I don't know. Tim Walz?

GLENN: Right.

STU: He was a football coach once, sort of.

GLENN: You have Tulsi, you have RFK. You have Elon Musk.

STU: Uh-huh. Yeah. That's one. Another one. Like Elon Musk is a guy who is -- who has the biggest electric car company in the world.

Why?

Because he wants to stop global warming, so much.

GLENN: Right.

STU: He's building spaceships, so he can go to Mars one day, to avoid the potential output of global warming. And like, that's probably the one I'm most excited about it.

You know I can't stand the global warming stuff. But like, him with the idea of him just taking a butcher's knife to the size of the government.

And just going after waste, and all that. I think is legitimately really exciting. I mean, we can see a major, major change.

GLENN: Oh, I think, especially if you get the Congress. If they have the Senate and the Congress, massive change is coming.

Massive change. And change that honestly, the left used to say, they wanted.

You know, all that -- let's end the wars. Let's audit the Pentagon.

Let's make sure that big corporations aren't in bed with the government. I mean, this is all stuff.

Let's restore the Bill of Rights.

STU: Oh. That would be nice.

GLENN: I mean, that's all the stuff the Democrats used to be for.

I think most Democrats in the country, are still for that.

You know, they were talking about this suppressed voter that -- did you see the story?

Where is this? Yeah. AOC. AOC is encouraging female voters, who are decidedly siding with Harris. While more men are voting for Trump than previously.

She said, you should leave Post-It notes in bathrooms for these fearful women in red states.

This is real. Your vote is anonymous and confidential. Who you vote for, is your secret. No one knows, unless you tell them.

Like, really? You really think that women. This pisses me off.

STU: It would piss you off more if you were a woman.

Oh, they don't think I have enough pride in myself, to tell people who I voted for, honestly.

GLENN: And honestly, what they're trying to say is we know your husband is oppressive.

STU: Bad. What a surprising message from the left.

GLENN: He will beat you if you vote for Kamala Harris.

That's what she's saying.

STU: It's pathetic. It's the same type of message of, we will make sure black people can't -- don't need IDs to vote.

Right?

It's the same nonsense. It's just demeaning and disgusting.

You know, what -- they're like, where are the strong women on the right?

What women are you talking to?

What women are you talking to? That are terrified to tell their husband to vote.

What person is this? I don't know anybody like that. I don't know anyone like that.

GLENN: I know a woman who is afraid --

STU: There's more to this story?

GLENN: Yeah, who is afraid now, afraid to express who they're voting for. Broadway actress -- and I think I'm getting this name right.

Kari Melacos (phonetic), avid supporter of RFK.

She just pointed on -- posted on Instagram, that she's voting for Trump.

So all of her friends in show business, all of them saying, it's a no for me.

I'm so deeply disappointed in you. What a loss!

I met you performing at a fundraiser for Hillary. Was that just a show to further your career?

Wow, this deeply satisfies me.

STU: Oh, the career progress of being a Trump supporter on Broadway.

Oh, my gosh! The glory that comes in from that decision.

What kind of idiot even writes that?

GLENN: I'm not sure how you've reached this decision, or what brought you to this place.

But I'm sending you love and hope, that you will think of the rights of me, my husband, our daughter, and reconsider your position. You sold out your friends for a gig?

I'm completely shocked in reading this. Thank you for showing us who you really are.

What it is you value publicly! There's nothing worse than a wolf in sheep's clothing.

STU: None of these people are married to this woman, right? I don't think.

GLENN: Right.

STU: I'm not saying you don't get pushback, by saying who you vote for. Of course, you do. But like, if you're in a marriage, where that's going on. Probably not a good decision at the very least.

GLENN: Well, if you're in a marriage where you don't feel comfortable in saying who you are voting for.

STU: You're probably in an abusive marriage, or something close to it.

GLENN: Yeah, close to it, if not an abusive marriage. Or you're in a marriage that you won't work.

If you're afraid to tell your spouse anything, you're in a marriage that's not going to last.

STU: I don't tell her about my heroin habit.

Does that mean we're in a bad marriage?

GLENN: No, heroin is completely -- because that does good in the long-run. Really.

STU: It's a troubling sign, let's put it that way. It's a troubling sign, though.

GLENN: Troubling sing, yeah.

STU: By the way, I love this headline.

Because you mentioned, you know, to Congress. Can control Republicans.

This shocked me. This is from the New York Times. It's an eight-minute 41-second read, if you want to go through it. So A couple thousand words. Right?

Not a short story. Here's a headline: A unified Republican Congress would give Trump broad power for his agenda.

GLENN: Oh.

STU: Now, that's just describing our system of government. That's all that is.

That's all that headline says. Now, I find it fascinating for that reason. Because it doesn't tell you anything.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Of course, if Donald Trump wins and Republicans win back the Congress, he's going to have power, to implement his agenda.

That's literally how this works.

GLENN: Assuming the G.O.P. is not the G.O.P. of the past.

STU: Right. Right.

But they should, in theory, like tax cuts. That was part of his agenda. They got control of Congress.

What happened? They passed tax cuts. Yes, that's how this works.

But like, you could write this article, very easily the opposite way. A unified Democrat Congress would give Kamala Harris broad support for her agenda.

But that's not scary to New York Times readers.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Right stop they write it this way. Even though, it's obviously true both ways.

It's scary to the New York Times readers. So they write it this way, to terrify you for a victory for Trump.

GLENN: When was the last time you picked up a New York Times?

STU: Like a physical copy. It had to be at a hotel.

GLENN: Yeah. I was at a hotel yesterday.

And I picked up a physical copy. Oh, my gosh, it's worse. It's worse when you're actually reading -- sitting there.

You pick it up, and you read it. And the whole front page is like, clown country.

It is just crazy!

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Trump’s response to Biden’s "GARBAGE" comment was EVERYTHING we wanted

Donald Trump has been giving us the campaign we’ve all been wanting, Glenn says. Instead of “vindicative,” it’s been fun and full of REAL joy, unlike the Kamala Harris campaign. Glenn reviews the latest example: Trump responded to Biden calling his supporters “garbage” by donning a bright orange vest and taking a ride in a garbage truck.

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STU: Glenn, how are you? Nice outfit.

GLENN: Well, where is your costume?

STU: I'm going as you today. I'm sitting in your chair.

GLENN: Yeah. Don't get used to that, pal.

STU: No problem. That is not something you have to worry about.

GLENN: I'm going as --

STU: Your bag that you're wearing.

GLENN: I'm going as a Trump supporter today.

It's the greatest costume at the last minute. You know, you put a belt around it, and it's very stylish. It is a little hot to wear a garbage liner. It's a little hot.

STU: That's interesting.

GLENN: Yeah. They don't really breathe. They don't really breathe.

So, yeah. Yeah.

So, anyway, I was looking at what happened yesterday, with Trump pulling in, on the garbage truck.

Wearing the -- you know, the orange vest.

Which I've never seen him out of the blue suit.

I thought that thing was sewn on to his body, you know.

He comes out with the orange vest, right off Trump force one. And did you see his rally last night by any chance?

STU: I saw a chunk of it. I didn't see all of it.

I did see him in the vest. I saw him driving around in the garbage truck, with Trump on the side.

Smart -- I will say, the campaign for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I wasn't really impressed with. This one, I think was pretty good.

GLENN: I don't think we'll ever see a campaign like this again. I mean, think of the images we have. Donald Trump working at a McDonald's, and it worked. I mean, it actually wasn't a Michael Dukakis moment. Anybody else trying to do that, it would destroy them.

This worked for him. Then coming off the plane in a construction outfit, driving a -- a garbage truck, that wouldn't work for anybody else.

But it worked for him.

And then you have the image of him holding his fist up, after an assassination.

You're never going to have another campaign like this, ever. Ever.

STU: Yeah. And I keep thinking to myself, you know, these have worked. It looked pretty good.

I wouldn't keep pushing my lucky with them.

I feel like, one of them will eventually feel like Michael Dukakis. But, honestly, he's been able to pull off a couple of them.

GLENN: Yeah, every single one. Did you see Ramaswamy in the garbage truck?

He was picking up garbage, and he looked like a typical politician doing it.

Which, he's really not the typical politician.

He said, okay. I grabbed this can. And I put it in the back.

No offense to Vivek. I love him.

It didn't work!

With Trump, I don't know how these things are working. But they are.

And then he got on stage, and he was making fun of himself, you know, and he was dancing.

He's gotten better at dancing.

I mean, this honestly is the campaign.

I mean, yeah.

It's not -- he's not like, you know, me. On the dance -- thank God, he's not.

On the dance floor.

You know, but he's just -- he's hit exactly the right tone.

And they're hitting all the wrong tone. I mean, you know, they started out with, it's got to be a positive campaign. And look where they are. You know, calling Americans garbage. By the way, cut five. Here's what Trump said about that last night.

DONALD: 250 million Americans are not garbage.
(applauding)
This week, Kamala has been comparing her political opponents to the most evil mass murderers in history. And now, speaking on a call for her campaign last night, crooked Joe Biden finally said, what he and Kamala really think of our supporters. He called them garbage.

No way. No way.

And I actually mean it, even though without question. My supporters are far higher quality than crooked Joe or lying Kamala.
(applauding)

GLENN: You know, it's --

DONALD: Our response to Joe and Kamala is very simple. You can't lead America if you don't love Americans. That's true.

GLENN: Amen. Amen. Amen.

And it's clear, isn't it? Isn't it becoming very, very clear, they don't like Americans?

I mean, look at everybody around them.

That they're not people that you would want to hang out with. Are they? Pragmatism there anyone on the Kamala side, on that time, that you're like, you know, they just seem like fun. You know. They just seem like fun.

Where on the other side, you have people who disagree with each other. You have -- you have Tulsi, on Trump's side.

You have RFK Jr. You have Elon Musk. I mean, it is kind of the cool kids club. And they're all fun. They're all having fun. Well, I mean, RFK is not exactly fun.

It hurts.

Every time he speaks, I grab my throat, it hurts.

STU: What are you talking about?

He's the most fun. The guy is putting whales in his car. He's just picking up bears on the side of the road, and strapping them to his steering wheel for some reason. He's got all the good stories.

GLENN: You know, just a normal day in America, when the headlines read, Biden bites babies at White House event. I mean, nothing to see here, right? Just a normal -- another day in America.

Okay. There -- there is also from Fox news, an exclusive report, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik and House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer accused the White House of releasing a false transcript of President Biden's remarks in which he referred to people as garbage.

Now, this is crazy!

We -- we saw the video!

And they release a transcript, that is not what he said. And then -- and then they tried to defend it, saying, well, no. He was just talking about the one comedian.

No!

No! He wasn't. He wasn't.

Go ahead. Here it is.

BIDEN: From Puerto Rico, where I am from. From my home state of Delaware. They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there, is his supporters. It's unconscionable.

STU: Yeah. But where is the possessive apostrophe in that? That is the debate.

I mean, they really are trying to say, that he was saying the garbage is held by only one supporter.

That was like their real argument on this, which is nonsense. Just say the guy is incoherent. And shouldn't be president of the United States. It would solve all your problems on this. You can't say this.

GLENN: You can't say that.

Because there's a deal. Shut up, Joe. Just shut up. Let's get through this. And maybe we'll help you build this library.

You notice? He can't raise the money for a presidential library.

Hmm. Yeah. You're the best president ever.

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Did Biden call Trump supporters “GARBAGE” to SABOTAGE Kamala?

President Biden recently called Trump supporters “garbage”, although his handlers insist that he meant to say the MAGA agenda is “garbage.” But did Biden have an ulterior motive? Was this meant to sabotage Kamala Harris’ campaign as revenge for his ousting? Or did Biden just fumble his response to comedian Tony Hinchcliffe’s joke about Puerto Rico? Glenn and Stu discuss. Plus, they review the latest election stats: Will the 2024 election be a landslide or a close race? And will Democrats believe it if Trump wins?

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GLENN: All right. So President Biden last night, I mean, I just -- I love the Kamala Harris speech. We will go into that, a little bit later on in the program.

The Kamala Harris speech is all, he's a Nazi. He's a Nazi.

He's a Nazi.

We should unite and put our divisions behind us.

By the way, he's a Nazi, he's a Nazi. He's a Nazi.

At the same time she's doing that, President Biden says this. Cut four.

BIDEN: From Puerto Rico where I'm -- in the state of Delaware, there are good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there, is his supporters. His -- his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable.

GLENN: So that is a good, happy message for six days before the election.

STU: I've heard that a bunch of times since he said it. I hadn't paid attention to this next sentence. So he says, the -- every Trump supporter is garbage, but I can't believe their demonization.

He's just, I mean, look, he's -- I don't know. Is it -- that he's just so far down the dementia road, that he doesn't even know what he's saying at this point? But whatever.

GLENN: There's a chance he's trying to sabotage.

STU: There is something. It's not 0 percent chance he's trying to sabotage her campaign. Because this totally destroyed her day. Her big day in the sun. Celebrating the January 6th anniversary. The site of the January 6th speech.

GLENN: I know that's what everybody is talking about. At the grocery store. They're not talking about the prices of groceries and gas and everything -- they're just talking about what happened on the ellipse, on January 6th.

STU: That's the big thing people are discussing. And it's laughable. Whatever she tried to accomplish today. Whether it was intentional or not, it was a blessed event. I love Joe Biden today. I never felt better about the guy.

GLENN: Try cut five, please. Here's Trump.

DONALD: That's what it says. That's what it says.

So you have -- remember Hillary?

She said deplorable?

And then she said irredeemable. But she said deplorable, and that didn't work out.

Garbage, I think is worse. But he didn't know. Please forgive him. Please forgive him, for he knoweth not what he said.
(laughter)

GLENN: Tell me Trump hasn't been around the Bible lately, and people who believe in the Bible.

By the way, CNN said, it is just -- that happened because of his stutter.

Well, was he going to say garbage.

STU: Great garbage!

GLENN: So stupid.

This thing is going to come down to the wire. Now, I hope, that it is a landslide.

And there are some things out there, that make it look like it could be a landslide. At least in some states. But do you have any doubt, Stu. That in the swing states, this is going to come down to the wire?

STU: Yeah.

It might not feel like that afterward.

I think the -- there's a good chance that one of these candidates wins all seven of them.

I was looking at -- I can't remember whose model it was. It might have been Nate Silvers, who said the most likely outcome in his model, when it comes to the swing states, is someone wins all seven them. The number one outcome is Donald Trump winning all seven of the swing states. The number two most likely outcome is Kamala Harris winning all seven swing states.

GLENN: Well, of course. That's like the number three model is Daffy Duck winning all three. I mean --

STU: No. No, no. You don't have to win all seven. You can win four and lose three. The point is, it looks like, the way these things usually run. They're correlated. Right?

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: So you usually don't -- you can't just flip a coin on all the swing states. And say, well, this is what is going to happen. Usually, if one person wins, there's more likely a chance they will win the next state and the next state.

So at the end of the day, that won't feel like a close election. I think people will be like, oh, gosh. Trump won 310 electoral votes, that doesn't mean it's not a close election. But that doesn't mean it isn't a close election.

GLENN: Yeah. It will be a close election state by state.

Yeah, Biden won 306 last time. That felt like the closest election possible, right? He still won 306. It was 306 to 232 in the electoral account.

GLENN: They will be counting for weeks. Weeks. Unless it's an absolute blowout. Weeks.

STU: Be honest. There's a path of Kamala Harris winning this election. We find out pretty much on election night.

Because the first two states that will know, that really matter will be Georgia and North Carolina.

And if Kamala Harris wins those. If she wins those by three or four points. I don't want to say what the outcome of the election is.

Most likely that means that Trump has lost it. It's not impossible for him to win till.

If he loses Georgia and North Carolina. He's probably in really big trouble.

So we -- that's probably the most likely -- everyone is like, I want to know on election night. Do you?

Because the most likely we know on election night, is Kamala Harris does really well in Georgia and North Carolina.

GLENN: I don't know. I'm not sure that's true.

STU: As far as early -- early on that night, I would say yes.

If Kamala Harris wins Georgia and North Carolina, to me, you're at a 95 percent chance she's winning this election.

But if Trump -- if it's close, and then Trump winds up winning, or whatever. He can still go up to the blue wall, and pick out a few states.

GLENN: They will absolutely declare a win on that night. Both candidates will declare a win on that night.

This will be -- I lay it out in tonight's show, and it is fascinating to see what the Democrats have planned.

Because they have planned for all of this stuff. There's a five-step plan, after the vote!

Five steps that they are going to do to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get into office. And it's all laid out. It's amazing!

This is -- according to Mark Alias, this is going to be the most litigated election in all of human history!

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: That sounds like fun, huh? That sounds like real fun. We'll give you that tonight on my Wednesday night special that you don't want to miss.

By the way, everything that is going on now, with -- with Media Matters and the New York Times, they are setting up, the silencing of voices.

Across the spectrum of conservatives!

Our voices will be lost. And they could be lost, you know, during any kind of recount. Or any kind of -- they will start suppressing us hard. They already are!

I mean, our algorithms are so skewed against you finding our voice, it's unbelievable.

However, when this thing takes off. If there's any kind of anybody, saying that the election was tinkered with at all, unless it's the left saying it, if it's us saying that, that this election was stolen.

This election -- we have to look into this. We will be silenced. If the left is saying that, they will be amplified.

And the defense will be silenced.

That's what's happening.

That's what they have in play, right now.

You have to be the person, that can look at the news, and say, no. Wait. Wait. Wait.

Don't believe that.

Believe this. And that's what Propaganda Wars, my new book is all about.

You have a chance of losing us. You have a very good chance of losing contact with us, in the next couple of months, unless you are really going right directly to our source.

But you won't find us in your news feed. I'm convinced of it. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm convinced that the algorithms, if there's any question on this. The algorithms will silence us.

And I mean, everybody in the conservative world.

They will suppress our voices.

STU: Do you think there's any chance that there are aren't massive claims of fraud after this election?

GLENN: Landslide is the only way.

STU: Landslide one side or the other?

GLENN: Yeah.

Landslide on the other side, I don't think our side will believe.

STU: And I think the same thing applies with them. Don't you think?

I think they will -- you think they will believe it if Trump blows her out.

GLENN: What have Republicans done to cheat in this? We know --

STU: What factor is that?

You're talking about having evidence of further claims?

What does that have to do with anything?

GLENN: You're right. You're right.

STU: They will say it. If Trump wins a close election, they will say this election is stolen.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Every election that I've experienced in my adult life, that they've lost, they've said that.

I'm trying to think of, is there an exception to that? Trump 2016, they lost. They said the election was stolen.

2012, they won. They didn't have to say it. 2008, they won. They didn't have to say it. 2004, they said it. 2000, they said it.

GLENN: Yeah. John Kerry. Al Gore.

STU: 1996, they didn't -- they won, so they didn't need it. 1992, they won, they didn't need it. 1988, I was 12. So every single election --

GLENN: Of your lifetime.

STU: -- of my lifetime as an adult, they have said that the election was stolen.

GLENN: And every -- every Republican, in my lifetime, because in '67, '68, I was three.

So every -- every Republican in my lifetime has been called a fascist or a Nazi. Every single time.

STU: Gosh. And how can they have any currency anymore?

GLENN: I know. I know.

STU: It's amazing, they're still doing this same playbook.

GLENN: Still doing it. Still doing it.

Things are changing though.

Things are dramatically changing.

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Trump’s response to Biden’s "GARBAGE" comment was EVERYTHING we wanted

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Did Biden call Trump supporters “GARBAGE” to SABOTAGE Kamala?

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