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What happens when a reasonable constitutionalist meets a reasonable progressive? A useful conversation ensues.
Eric Liu, CEO of Citizenship University and author of You're More Powerful Than You Think: A Citizen's Guide to Making Change Happen, joined Glenn in studio to discuss the destructive nature of politics and how to push back against a rigged system.
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GLENN: Eric Liu is a new friend. We started to get to know each other maybe two months ago. He came down from his hometown of Seattle, which is also my hometown.
He is a CEO of Citizenship University. He teaches civics at the University of Washington. Just that is enough to say, I don't think we're going to have a lot in common.
(laughter)
GLENN: He is -- he was described by a mutual friend of ours, Matt Kibbe, as a progressive who wants to talk to the other side. And I -- I sat down in my office with Eric, and I said, "This is going to be an interesting conversation." And you -- you pretty much, if I remember correctly, started the conversation with, I'm not an early 20th century American progressive.
Is that -- am I remembering that right? Or did I hear that in my --
ERIC: Well, you asked if I was.
GLENN: Yes. And so your answer was?
ERIC: Yeah.
Well, my answer was, I'm a progressive in the sense simply that I believe you can't just let things be. I think that society, a community, a political system, an economy is like a garden. You know, when you leave things be, for a while, things grow awesome. They're great. Right? They grow like gangbusters.
But after a certain point, noxious weeds take over, and they start to kill the whole thing. After a little while of letting things go, the garden tips over and it dies.
GLENN: Well, there's a difference between that and to use your garden -- let me take it to a farm. Theodore Roosevelt. So I'll take it out of the Republicans. Talked about breeding of humans, in compared to breeding like cattle, because noxious weeds -- people will marry, and they're too stupid to know who to marry and who not to marry. I mean, there is -- there is a place to where the farmer or the rancher takes it too far.
ERIC: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I think, you know, there's a good wide open space between that vision of, hey, we're citizen gardeners. We own responsibility for making sure that we tend, that we weed, that we see the plot between that. And eugenics. You know, that whole world view --
GLENN: Yes. Yeah.
STU: Just a personal thing for us. But would you mind using an analogy that isn't related to vegetables? We're not familiar.
ERIC: You don't get what I'm talking about?
STU: Yeah, we just don't understand.
GLENN: He's a vegetarian and still doesn't understand them. He hates the fact that he's a vegetarian.
You write, why do most people think "power" is a dirty word? Because they think it means coercion and violence. They associate it with the worst in human nature. And if I can summarize, a couple things that you say: There are three laws of power. The first, power concentrates, that it feeds itself and it compounds, as does powerlessness. Second, power justifies itself. People invent stories to legitimatize the power that they have. And third, power is infinite. There is no inherit limit to the amount of power people can create.
Take me through those three points.
ERIC: Yeah. These are pretty fundamental to any understanding, I think, of whether you're on the right or the left, how we live in this incredible age right now of bottom-up citizen power. People all across-the-board are knocking over entrenched monopolies, knocking over entrenched systems of status quo. And so when you look at those three laws, number one, power concentrates. You know, when you have it, you tend to get more.
GLENN: Yeah.
ERIC: When you don't have it, you tend to get less. Right? And that plays out in economic terms, in terms of the rich get richer and so forth. But it's also political.
GLENN: You see it honestly with the conservatives. Progressives have control of much of the media, and the conservatives struggle to have a toehold in that media. And we seem to get less and less.
ERIC: Well, I think that's right. I mean, I think there is a way in which -- okay. So that's number one: Power concentrates.
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: But what you're touching on is also law number two: Power justifies itself, right? So people who tend to be in power, and from your perspective, that's progressives in the media. In other times in American history --
GLENN: Well, let's take it in your field, I mean, in the university, you can't tell me that you think that progressives don't control the universities and manipulate and justify itself?
ERIC: Well, I think progressives dominate the academy. Progressives dominate the media.
GLENN: Yeah.
ERIC: But domination is one thing. It's justifying itself as telling these just so stories about why that ought to be so. Right?
GLENN: Correct.
ERIC: And so an example I'll use more from the left is the classic case is trickle-down economics. To me, the idea that people who are already wealthy and already privileged telling you, you've got to take good care of us, man. You've got to coddle us and make sure you give us nice tax breaks because that's the only way any of my wealth is going to leak down to the rest of you, right?
Economic theory tells you, there's not actually a whole lot of truth to that. But it's a story. It's a way of justifying people having what they have. Right?
White supremacy has always been that kind of story line. You know, that, hey, look, whites are better and more suited for governing and governing themselves and running the show than non-whites, so this just ought to be the way it is. Right? You non-whites ought not to be kind of crowding into the public square.
So if all you had were these two laws here, that power compounds and it justifies itself, you get into a pretty grim doom loop. Right? You get into a situation -- well, you get into a dictatorial authoritarian situation. The only thing that busts you out of that doom loop is law number three, which is that power is infinite. And that people, wherever they are, even if they're outside of those circles of concentrated power, can generate new countervailing power out of thin air, simply by organizing.
And, you know, I actually on the road have been completely consistent in saying exhibit A is the Tea Party. The Tea Party, 2010, arrived without clout, without connections, without permission, without anybody saying, "Hey, go on and kind of lead a movement here to challenge the entrenched status quo in both parties." But these people remembered that they had infinite power, and that if they simply began to organize with another, which is simply asking one other human to join you in a common endeavor and say, you know what, let's make some plans here. Let's get on a common message. Let's do some things together. They began fundamentally to change the game, right?
And I think this age that we're in right now is one that connects the Tea Party, with Occupy Wall Street. With $15 an hour. With Black Lives Matter.
You may think, wow, all these people. I don't agree with all these people. But the reality is, all of them are remembering that in this bottom-up way, citizens can exercise far more clout and muscle than most of the time we remember we have.
GLENN: So this is -- and I know this audience is -- is feeling it. And I say this in the spirit of just defining where we are. Okay?
As I'm listening to you and I heard about, you know, trickle-down economics, I wanted immediately to stop and battle you on that.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: There's several things that you said that I immediately wanted to say, no.
(chuckling)
STU: That's okay though.
GLENN: It's okay. It's okay. But that's where we get lost. Because we don't listen -- we don't let the other person finish. And so we're not listening to each other.
But let me -- instead of battling on those things, let me take you here on that. I agree with your three points. And I agree with you on the last point. And I -- you know, I -- I'm sorry, I have to say it, but not only power is infinite, with power comes money too. Money is infinite. So we spend so much time telling people, sit down, shut up, to protect your own power. Okay?
And I can't -- you can't do it because that guy is in your way. You can't make money because that guy has it all. Money and power. They're usually put together. And they are infinite. As we see in Silicon Valley. You can dream, you can do. It's the idea of America.
Here's the thing that I want to get to on this -- on this power: There are progressives on both sides of the aisle. There are progressives that are Republicans, progressives that are Democrats. And the -- the original idea was either fascism in the early 20th century. They thought fascism and communism was neat. So the early guys were, who is going to control the cows? Who is going to be the rancher on the cows? Who is going to tell these dummies that don't get it how to live their life? We'll protect them, and we'll have the power.
And so there's fascists, and there's communists, if you will. Both of them end the same way in authoritarianism.
How do we get to a point to where the people who are truly constitutionalists -- this is what makes us different. What the progressives started in the early 20th century is just to bring us back to the European model. Look what's happening in France: Communism or fascism. Forty percent is voting for fascism or communism. That's craziness.
How do we get to the point to where we can say, "I want you to -- I want you to have the power that you want. I want you to have all the success that you want." But I -- I don't want you telling me what success I can have or what I have to believe or what line I have to tow. I don't want control of your life. I want -- I want 330 million experiments happening that will pop up, and I'll go, "My gosh, look at that life. I'd like to pattern my life after that." Instead of somebody trying to cookie-cutter us all. And I think that's what a lot of people on the left are feeling, especially youth. They're seeing that -- that -- that current running through the right, that says, I want a strongman. And they miss the strongman on the left.
So how do reasonable people come together in the middle that are saying, "Eric, I love you and I respect you and I don't have a problem. Don't control my life. I won't control your life."
ERIC: So I want to start with appreciating what you said at the outset, which was, there were three or four moments when I was speaking earlier where you just wanted to hop up and say no. Right?
I think that's huge. I don't want to just kind of skip past that. I think it's really worth naming that. And I'm sure many of your listeners are like, no.
JEFFY: A couple of people in the room.
(laughter)
ERIC: Yeah, I'm sure. So I think that ability to hear that inside yourself, to kind of sit with that and say, "Hold on. Let's let this play out."
GLENN: And not -- and hang on. And not stew on that like, okay. I got to wait until he stops. I got to remember this.
JEFFY: That's hard. That's hard.
GLENN: Because I couldn't remember -- I couldn't remember -- I know there were three or four things that I thought of that I wanted to say no. But it's stop yourself and let it go. And listen to the other side. That's really hard.
ERIC: That verb right there, man. I think politics, especially in DC, is filled with what I call debaters listening. Right?
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: You're just listening inasmuch as you need to get the quick gist of what the guy is saying. And then your wheels are spinning, how am I going to pound him back? How am I going to destroy what he just said, right?
GLENN: Yes.
STU: Yep.
ERIC: And what I'm talking about is basically citizens listening.
GLENN: Yes.
ERIC: Like humans actually full-body listening. Right? And checking yourself and saying, okay. Before I react -- I know my talking points I'm going to kind of wheel out here. Right? And the same thing just happened for me.
GLENN: I could see it.
ERIC: You were describing this vision of what you're articulating. You know, you're describing progressivism as top-down, cookie-cutter, controlling either fascist or communist, you know, the state solves everything or tries to solve everything for people.
GLENN: And the reason why you're here is because I don't believe you believe that.
ERIC: I don't believe that, right?
GLENN: Right.
ERIC: And I don't accept that definition in the first place.
GLENN: But do you believe there are those that do that?
ERIC: I do. And I think we're here because precisely as you say, because there is a space between that caricature and the caricature that I could throw out, you know, that all Libertarians are just complete individualistic kind of, you know, sociopathic selfish people that just want to go their own -- that would be equally wrong and stupid, right?
GLENN: Correct. Correct. We've made the media and sound bites. And we are reflecting it in our own conversation. If we can't judge each other in one sound bite, then we don't engage.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: We get lost. And those sound bites make us into cartoon characters.
ERIC: Yeah.
GLENN: And we're not those cartoon characters.
New reports have dropped linking failed Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks to a multitude of online accounts, including some that were deep into the “furry” community. Glenn Beck asks, how did the FBI miss all of this when they insisted the Butler, PA, shooter didn’t have much online presence or a clear motive?! Or did they purposefully scrub this information from their reports to keep us in the dark?
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: So there's a couple of things that are in the news. That Thomas Matthew Crooks thing.
You know, this is crazy. Went by they/them. Furry. I don't even -- I've been thinking about this a lot in the last 24 hours. You know, the kid that tried to take out Donald Trump back in July in the Butler rally.
It's a year later, okay? November 17, 2025. These new reports are dropping bombshells. It is the 17th, isn't it? 18th. Sorry. The 18th. These -- these new reports are dropping over and over and over and over and over again.
And there are things that nobody mentioned in the official investigations.
Independent researchers now are using the same kind of digital forensic tools that the Feds have. And they're piecing together a bunch of old online accounts, tied directly to Crooks' email. His real email and his name.
And one of the biggest ones was on Deviant Art. Okay. That sounds great. User names like Epic Microwave and The Epic Microwave.
Okay. This site -- apparently, a huge hub for artists. But also, ground zero for the furry community.
Now, we're going to get into this a little later. Because Stu is a big furry. And he will go right into it.
Where he likes to --
STU: Furries are not that large actually. More moderate sized.
Okay. All right. Well, this is where people get into the anthropomorphic animal thing. And they turn animals into half humans. And it turns sexual. And I don't even know.
So, anyway, this kid was not casually browsing. He was deep in that subculture, we find out now.
So that's two high-profile attempted assassination cases, or one attempted and one actual assassination case. And they're both tied to the same thing.
And nobody seems to be worried about that.
Nobody is talking about that. Imagine if we had two. One attempted and one actual assassination. And it was Charlie Kirk and president Biden.
Okay.
Anybody. And they both were deep into the GlennBeck.com subculture. Do you think the media would be like, what's going on there? But this thing, nobody cares. Okay? And when I say nobody cares, it seems like our FBI doesn't care either. Our DOJ doesn't care. The Trump case specifically blows a hole into the mysterious lone wolf with no known motive. Wait. What?
Now, this wasn't -- this wasn't Patel pushing this. This was the -- the Biden FBI that was pushing this. Christopher Wray went to Congress. And shrugged. And said, you know, we can't find any ideology. Or any online trail that explains this. What!
It's right here! What are you talking about? It's right here!
Crooks had at least 17 accounts across discord, YouTube, Gab, Deviant Art, all of it. Easily tracked to him!
And as we told you last week, he started cheering for Trump. And then went a die hard, you know, 180-degree turn around in 2020.
And then he started echoing anti-Semitic, anti-immigration rants, calling for political assassinations, repeating Maoist lines like, "Power grows at the barrel of a gun," and even chatting with sketchy European extremists, Nazis, who are linked to a designated terrorist group. He posted violent threats under his real name for years. Now, listen to this. He also got flagged by other users, who literally tagged law enforcement in their reply! And nothing happened. Nothing happened. They didn't know who this guy was. They didn't search for him. They didn't question him. Nothing happened until he climbed on to the roof and started shooting at Donald Trump. Excuse me?
Do you believe that? Stu, do you believe that?
They have people online, tipping the FBI off, and they didn't even who know this guy was.
They had no idea who he was.
STU: I mean, it seems impossible to believe.
You have one stray comment, that is taken the wrong way online. And, you know, Secret Service is calling you up. I mean, we've -- I don't want to bring up.
GLENN: We've personally gone through this.
STU: Exactly. This same thing.
GLENN: We said. I said -- I said it on one show.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Something about Donald Trump.
STU: No. No. No. No. I'm not going to let you get away with that.
No. I want to make sure that it's clear what occurred on the show was you essentially threatening my life!
And I want people to know. Where no. I was going to say. Right. I was saying something about Donald Trump.
And then Stu got in, and I said --
STU: I said --
GLENN: I will choke you to death. Or something. Yeah. I just need to choke you to death.
And people in the audience said, I was threatening Donald Trump.
No, I was clearly threatening, and nobody called about poor Stu. I was clearly threatening Stu's life.
STU: Yeah, think about that when you're driving in your car right now. You didn't call! You heard it. And you let my life be threatened. And you didn't care at all.
GLENN: That's right.
STU: None of you cared. But apparently people care --
GLENN: That's why I love this audience.
That's right. So, anyway, so, anyway, the -- the -- secret service was with us two hours later. Okay?
STU: Rightfully so.
GLENN: Yeah. Rightfully so. And we have no problem with it. You know, we were talking to them. They were like, Mr. Beck, we know -- we listened to the tape, we know what happened. We just have to dot all the I's, cross all the T's, and just get a statement. And I'm like, no, not a problem.
I was threatening to kill him. And, you know, they laughed and went, yeah, we understand that. And they left!
Okay. That's the way I remember it.
This guy threatens to kill the president and others! People tag him to the FBI and to law enforcement. And they never check into him?
STU: And, Glenn, I think people can say, well, you know, the thing we're talking about did happen on a national radio show. A lot of people heard it.
Maybe some of the comments on, what is it? Deviant Art are not as well picked up. And that's probably true.
Though, we've seen --
GLENN: They've sent it to them. They've sent it to them.
STU: Right. We've seen tons of examples of people making offhanded statements where this has happened.
You know, not just a threat. Which would be serious enough. But constant threats. Dozens of them, it seems.
We're still, I feel learning about all the details about this. A lot of threats from a specific person.
And it doesn't seem like their argument is, it wasn't even on their radar! I mean, that's unbelievable! It's --
GLENN: Here's -- here's bare minimum.
Everyone should be fired. Everyone should be fired!
Not just the top person. Everyone should be fired. I'm sorry. You can reapply, but we're cleaning house.
Because this is inexcusable. Inexcusable. Now, here's the other thing that's inexcusable. None of this stuff about the threats. None of the radicalization. None of the violent posts. None of the furry gender stuff even made it into the big congressional report that dropped December 2024.
None of this!
It was like they scrubbed the kid clean to keep the public in the dark. Let me say that again. It's like they scrubbed the kid clean, to keep the public in the dark.
Hmm. Let me go to the comment about -- from President Trump yesterday. We played it in the news a few minutes ago.
Where he was talking about the Epstein case. Listen to this.
DONALD: We have nothing to do with Epstein the Democrats do. All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this Reid Hoffmann. You look at Larry Summers. Bill Clinton. They went to his island all the time. And many of this, all Democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize the great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability, because we brought prices went way lower. On energy. On ending eight wars, and another one coming pretty soon, I believe.
We've done a great job. And I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done. So I'm all for -- you know, we have given 50,000 pages. You do know that.
Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category, but no matter what we give, it's never enough. You know, with Kennedy, we gave everything, and it wasn't enough. With Martin Luther King, we gave everything, and it's never enough.
We've already given, I believe the number is 50,000 pages! 50,000 pages. And it's just a Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.
GLENN: Okay. Stop. So why?
Why is it never enough? Why is it never enough?
Because the government has lied to us, over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Why is it never enough? Because what the hell happened here with this guy? What happened with these two shooters, and you're not telling us about the, you know, role-playing as a buff cartoon fox/wolf hybrid with they/them pronouns. And then being groomed by foreign edge lords, quoting Mao and terrorist manifestos. And then going out and trying to shoot somebody.
You don't mention that!
Yeah. That's why we don't believe the government. And until the government becomes fully clean, immediately, on everything, just, you know what, here it is.
Here it is!
Nobody is going to believe it. Now, what does this say about our kids. We have a whole generation now growing up the blued to these hyper niche, unmoderated corners of the internet, with fantasy and porn and identity confusion and hard-core political extremism. And all of it, just smashed together into one stream.
What do you think is going to happen? Family, school, real interactions with family. Real life friends. They don't touch these spaces.
You know, how's -- I feel weird about my body morph into, I need to commit mass violence against the world.
I mean, this is the five alarm tire. When you have two political assassinations. Two of them!
That trace back to the exact same subculture, you've got a real problem!
It's not like every furry is dangerous. Well, I know. I question every furry.
I mean, I don't even know what -- anyway!
There is some sort of radicalization pipeline that is happening. And we're raising our kids in digital petri dishes. Where mental illness and sexual confusion and violent ideology is all growing together!
And then we act shocked when one of our kids grab a rifle. America, wake up! Stop pretending this stuff is just a harmless little quirk. You know, or live and let live. Or we're just going to keep burying victims one after thorough. Parents and schools and tech companies. Law enforcement. Everybody dropped the ball on crooks.
For years! Red flags were out there, screaming about this guy.
And nobody in the government did anything. Nobody in law enforcement did anything? How many of our kids have to climb roofs, before we admit these dark corners of the internet are producing real monsters.
How many? How many?
And this is only the beginning of it.
Early this morning, millions of Americans were unable to log onto websites such as X, Spotify, and ChatGPT due to a widespread Cloudflare outage. This is just a few weeks after the major AWS outage that took a major chunk of the internet out of commission. Glenn warns that because everything is so consolidated, should the wrong hands gain control over our online infrastructure, we could have MAJOR issues...
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Let me explain the internet. You know, the internet is not some magic cloud. It's really a house of clouds, that's built on the back bone And, you know, built on a handful of companies. Cloud Fare is probably a company that you've never ever heard of. It is the front door and the alarm system, if you will, for the entire internet.
It protects websites from attacks and security problems. So the internet flows through Cloud Fare.
STU: Not flare, Glenn?
GLENN: To -- Cardflare [sic], yes. Cloudflare. Sorry. To the websites. Okay? When they go down, traffic to the entire website can stop.
And most of the internet uses Cloudflare. Without them, the internet would be really, really vulnerable to cyber. Okay?
They filter are all the traffic goes. They filter it. Make sure that there's no -- nobody trying to attack, before it goes to a company's website. So the filter is blocked when they go down.
So traffic can't get through to anybody. All right?
It's a really complex service. One of the most highly valued companies in technology companies. And, I mean, it's -- it's almost irreplaceable.
They have the capacity to absorb massive attacks that will take down companies, as large as Amazon and Microsoft.
This is the -- this is the first line of defense. And it's a great line of defense!
They filter out all the attacks, so Amazon, Microsoft, all the way down GlennBeck.com. All of them -- are -- are hacked into it and don't have cyber attacks. Okay? That's Cloudflare. AWS now, that is the foundation and the plumbing. That's the Amazon. And it is the plumbing, for another third of the internet.
One glitch, not even a hack, just the stupid software bug like what happened in October, and poof, Netflix stops. Your terror bell camera goes blind.
Hospitals can't access records. Et cetera, et cetera. And we saw it last month with AWS. Today, we're seeing it with Cloudflare.
What happens when the bad guys flip the switch on purpose?
Because we're understanding now that this is just a glitch. Just -- you know, there's a wrinkle in the get along.
And we just couldn't get that hitch and glitch out of the get along. And so you know what happens when that happens?
No. I -- I really don't.
The bad guys in this scenario, one of the bad guys is communist China. Because they just launched. We found this out last week, they just launched the world's first AI agent army.
This is unbelievable. This is not sci-fi.
This is real.
In September, the -- the hackers, you know, didn't sit in darkrooms, typing, and trying to get out. They turned an American AI. Claude, which is Amazon, is it not?
Claude.
STU: It's Grok, I believe.
GLENN: Is that Google? It's anthropic. You're right. You're right. Anthropic.
They turned Claude into a Terminator.
What they did is they got into Claude, and they said, hey, pretend you're a good guy, doing security tests. Then gather this information. And put some problems into the system. They scan the networks. They wrote exploits.
They stole secrets from big tech companies. From banks. Even from our government!
Okay?
Because humans just -- when it's in there, and you see that it's, you know, anthropic. You're like, oh, yeah.
Approve!
Four breaches were confirmed.
And that's just what we caught.
There was no human involved in this. Okay?
Now, the computer is on wheels.
Tesla. One software update that goes wrong, and you're -- your Tesla becomes a brick at 90 miles an hour. The internet is exactly the same.
We've handled our -- we've handed our entire lives over to the internet. And to automation. Banking. Shopping. Voting. Talking.
These are all really fragile digital pipes. And now, the AI super soldiers. The agents. Without anyone behind them, just one guy typing in, in China, you know, go in and cause disruption and pretend that you're a friend.
And it does! So what does this mean to you? Well, it means we need redundancy for one thing. I mean, are you safe with your power?
Are you safe with your heating? Are you safe with some of the things that are going on.
Your 401(k). Hacked by a robot that never, ever sleeps. Your kid's school records, gone. Your power grid. Remember Texas, a few years back, when the power grid was overwhelmed? Imagine that being done by AI robotics.
We keep centralizing everything. This is the problem. This is the problem with our government and everything else.
Instead of getting smaller, we keep getting larger. You remember what they said in '08. The banks, they're just too big to fail. Instead of breaking them up and strengthening the smaller banks, they put the smaller banks out of business and rolled them into the bigger banks. So made the bigger banks even bigger than they were.
Centralization is a bull's-eye for chaos. And everything is being centralized right now. And the outage starves the system.
This is a wake-up call. If you're trying to get onto ChatGPT or anything else today, your banks, whatever, and there's a glitch, and it's down for a while.
We need a redundancy yesterday. Decentralize! Again, it's like bringing manufacturing home again. Bringing the chips home again.
Build AI defenses, that don't let Chinese agents waltz right this, through the back door. Harden our grid, harden our data. Or lose your freedom.
So that's what's happening today. Now, let me get to one of the distractions, quickly. The Epstein files. President Trump has said, release the damn Epstein files. But he also said at the same time, it's not going to be enough. It's never enough!
We've released the JFK files and everything else.
Yes! And you know why? It has nothing to do with Donald Trump or Joe Biden or anybody else.
It has everything to do with the United States people lying to its people over and over and over and over again.
Overclassifying absolutely he went. So we never feel like we get the truth.
And then on top of it, never holding anyone accountable for their actions.
Did you see the judge said at a -- because the government made a mistake on gathering some of the evidence that looks like that Comey case may just have to be thrown out. You're not going to be able to try Comey.
What a surprise!
What a freaking surprise!
So he's releasing the Epstein files, but says, they're just -- they're not going to be enough. But they vote on the Epstein files being released. And I hope everybody in Washington votes to release them.
You know, what changed his mind?
I'll tell you what changed his mind. He saw what the Democrats were doing, in selectively releasing things.
Just dump them all out there. Then they're out.
And anybody thinks he's in the Epstein files.
Why?
Just ask yourself this one simple question. Why wouldn't the Democrats have used it between 2020 and 2024?
Why would they have not released that evidence? It would have been the easiest way to make sure he wasn't president of the United States. If you think he's hiding something for him, you're out of your ever loving mind!
Now, that's my opinion. I have a strong, forceful opinion.
I know. I've done a lot of critical thinking on this one.
But that doesn't mean that all of his buddies and everything else, is safe. Larry Summers has just announced he will step back from public life. I mean, he's the former Democratic Treasury Secretary.
He said, he's going to -- he's going to step back. Summer's emails with Epstein, show that the former cabinet official saw late night. Or the late financiers Streisand.
On pursuing a woman he refers to as his mentee.
And he referred to himself in this email as Epstein's wing man. Oh, boy.
He said, I'm deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the pain I've caused. I take full responsibility for my misguided decisions to continue communicating with Mr. Epstein. While continuing to fill my teaching obligations. So we've got a guy who is hanging out with Epstein.
Because where does he teach? I think he teaches in Harvard, doesn't he? Oh, good, yeah, let's have him hang out with the young kids. I'll be stepping back for my public commitments as part of my broader effort to rebuild trust and repair a relationship with the people closest to me.
Like, maybe, I don't know, your wife.
He hasn't been accused of any wrongdoing. But he was, you know -- you know, hanging out with Epstein. And writing him for love advice. And how can you -- hey. I need a wing man!
I'm trying to get this young mentee to sleep with me.
How do you think I can get it done.
I don't know. Nothing illegal. But nothing really non-sleazy about that.
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The fight over releasing the Epstein records has exploded into one of the biggest transparency battles in Washington. Republicans say Democrats deliberately blocked the vote to fast-track disclosure, raising questions about what the party is trying to hide — and why the timing matters so much. Glenn Beck breaks down why both sides are terrified of what might be revealed, how Trump’s call to “release everything” changed the political calculus, and why the banking records may hold the real truth behind Epstein’s power.
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GLENN: Johnson. Can we bring this up, Sara?
Johnson is live. And he's talking about transparency.
VOICE: Concerned as we were about all this. As we've insisted from the very beginning. Republicans are the only party trying to ensure maximum transparency. By the way, I will just tell you, I put the bill on the floor of unanimous consent last Wednesday night. And guess who objected to it? The Democrats.
Okay?
If they were so -- if this was so urgent. And they were so concerned about getting this done, and seeing justice be done and all of that, they would have not blocked the request. Okay?
This is about politics. They -- they blocked our unanimous consent motion to expedite our bill and made us waste all of this additional time.
Republicans are ready to get the job done, to move forward so we can continue to get on these important issues dealing with what the American people demand and deserve for us to deal with.
And so I want to leave you with this thought: Everybody should think long and hard about who is acting truthfully, honestly, and in good faith. It is not in the Democrat Party that has obfuscated and blatantly lied the last four years about all these things. It's not the Democrats who shut down the government and for their own selfish political purposes. It's not the Democrats who blocked the passage of this discharge a week ago because they wanted to have a political moment.
It is the Republicans who are acting in good faith. And I believe the American people are going to see that. And understand that.
I'm going to vote to move this forward.
I think it could be close to a unanimous vote because everybody here, all the Republicans want to go on record to show they're for maximum transparency. But they also want to know, that we're demanding that this stuff get corrected before it's ever -- moves through the process. And is completed.
GLENN: I think that's fascinating.
JUSTIN: I sincerely hope my Democrat colleagues will show the same level of urgency and enthusiasm when it comes to tackling the real issues facing the country that we have to get to.
GLENN: Okay. Top.
Stu, how -- how do the Democrats vote against this?
STU: As far as the -- the bill to expose the Epstein files?
I mean, I don't think they will in the end.
I don't think they will.
GLENN: You think it will be unanimous?
STU: I don't think it will be unanimous.
But I do think that it will pass when -- when it goes through. I -- I do think, it will get a lot of votes too. Because now people are cushioned. Right?
It's easy. No problems, really. Now that Trump has said, release it. There's really nobody opposing it outside of -- they probably want to make sure that they get everybody on record. So they're opposing the unanimous consent vote.
That's my guess, of their strategy there.
But, you know, what a surprise!
JASON: Personally, I think the Democrats walked into a huge trap on this, personally.
I think it's too politically dangerous for them to vote against it.
Although, I do feel like there will be more pushback, than some people could expect on this.
I think a lot of people will flip and vote against it. To me, it's desperation. What they did, last week. Or the past couple of weeks.
Come on! Redacting certain names within these emails. Just blowing past certain journalists that are considered on their side. That were allegedly coaching Epstein.
I mean, being willing to put that out there, is massive desperation.
I think President Trump set a trap for them on this.
I think it was sprung when he flipped. And said, no. We're releasing it. It just feels all too perfect for me.
I think the Democrats are terrified of some of the things that could be coming out of this.
Not to say, that it would be, like, very, very damning. But very, very embarrassing for a lot of them. That's what I'm expecting.
And I'm fully thinking there will be a floodgate of a lot of this stuff. They made a huge miscalculation, in my opinion, on doing that act of desperation.
STU: Why wouldn't Trump then want to -- why wouldn't he want to release these previously?
I mean, seeming, it does seem like when Donald Trump has an opportunity to make Democrats look bad, he's pretty -- he'll take it. He -- he likes that. Why wouldn't he have been in favor of this from the beginning if they actually had stuff on the Democrats?
GLENN: I don't think anything bad on the Democrats is actually there. I mean, really bad.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: I think there's some embarrassing stuff from both sides.
But, you know, mainly for the Democrats. But there's not going to be a smoking gun on Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton or any of the big ones.
This is the way it always happens. The real kingpins always get away. It's just the underlings. And it will be the underlings that aren't real popular. That's what will happen. That are spendable. That maybe they want to get rid of in small districts.
The Democrats want to get rid of. Because the tells me could have cleaned all of this up, during Biden.
Whatever they wanted to do. They could have gotten rid of it.
STU: Glenn, can we talk for a second of how Trump is talking about this?
Because, obviously, we've talked about it as a big priority before the campaign. And now he's president of the United States.
And now he's used the term Epstein hoax. And all of that, several times.
I noticed in the clip we played earlier. That he started to clean that up, a little bit. And he said, the Epstein hoax.
It's a hoax, as it applies to Republicans.
And he started to kind of change his language on that a little bit. Which I find to be interesting.
I think smart. Because the American people don't think this is a nothing story.
They don't think this is a hoax. They don't think that the idea that that Epstein did these terrible things. Is something that is a nothing story to us right now.
But I think the way Trump thinks about it, is he's trying to deal with what's going on right now. And it's like, if we were -- if we unearthed a bunch of text messages from Jeffrey Dahmer to Nancy Pelosi. That would be a big story.
It would be important to find out why Jeffrey Dahmer and Nancy Pelosi were trading text messages. But that being said, it wouldn't be the number one issue of the president of the United States. Because it -- you know, Jeffrey Dahmer is long dead. Right?
Whatever was going on back then. We should know about it, but it's not necessarily as important right now as bringing down prices and making sure our economy doesn't spin out of control.
Or, you know, the Middle East. Or whatever else Trump is dealing with.
So I think Trump sees it. He keeps using hoax. I think to him, he really sees it as a distraction to the things he's actually trying to get accomplished. When at the end of the day, it's an important story.
About the, you know, they're lying about it constantly in the media. And it's just become a distraction from what he really wants to get accomplished. You buy that?
GLENN: I mean, look at what we accomplished over the last week.
Ever since the -- ever since the -- the -- the Democrats voted to open the government again. The very next day, it was Epstein, and we're still talking about Epstein.
And that's why he's changed. That's why he's changed. He knows, that this is just not going to go away. And I think he alluded to it in his statement yesterday, it's still not going to go away. It's never going to be enough. It's never going to be enough.
But let's just release everything. And show you what it is. And, you know, if there is anything there, about the Democrats.
I don't think it will be about Bill Clinton. I think it will be about smaller Democrats.
And Democrats that are passed their prime or out. You know, I just don't think they're going to be -- they're going to be anything that's big in it.
Maybe. But I don't think so. I think where you will find big things. Was yesterday. Or the day before. Was he was going to look into the banking records. He wants to see all of Epstein's transactions. And who was sending money where, et cetera, et cetera.
That's where you're going to start seeing some names. If they go into the banking records.
I mean, look what happened -- what was the bank? Was it J.P. Morning Chase, that was Epstein's bank?
I can't remember. I hate to say that. Because it may not be. Will you look that up real quick?
You know, they went into the banking records, and then, you know, there were lawsuits about that. And then all of a sudden, just kind of went away. I don't even what happened with that. Hmm. What?
You're banking. Huh?
JASON: JPMorgan and Deutsche.
GLENN: Yeah. And I think that's where you're going to find stuff. That's where the bodies will be find. Because the banking records will be the banking records, and you won't get rid of those.
