Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, author of the new book The Book of Mysteries, joined The Glenn Beck Program Thursday with updates on the latest harbinger to appear in the United States.
"One week ago, the sign of Baal appeared in America. It appeared in New York City. I was there. I went there to see it," Rabbi Cahn said.
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In City Hall Park, an arch was erected, which came from the temple of Baal in Syria. ISIS destroyed what remained of the ancient temple in 2015, and the arch was brought to America as a symbol of defiance. But, if you've read Rabbi Cahn's book The Harbinger, you know the arch symbols much more than that. It symbols a nation that has turned away from God.
"It's the sign of a nation calling evil good and good evil," Rabbi Cahn said.
This latest appearance of a harbinger further proves, according to the Rabbi, that tough times are ahead. His latest book, The Book of Mysteries, was written as a source of hope and strength.
"I feel we're going to be seeing very hard times, and hard times for believers as well and those who are standing for God. And I wanted to do this to strengthen them. We need to be strong in the days ahead, we need to be very grounded in the days ahead," he said.
The Book of Mysteries, available at bookstores everywhere, reveals hundreds of mysteries of God --- from the end times to heaven to hidden writings of rabbis.
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GLENN: Jonathan Cahn is -- is joining us now. He has written The Harbinger The Mystery of the Shemitah and now The Book of Mysteries. And he's a good friend of the program. He has addressed Congress, the United Nations. He is a guy who -- I don't -- I don't know how to describe it. You have a lot of the same thoughts that I have, except you have the knowledge to I think kind of back some of these up Scripturally.
Before we get into what's in the book and that particular topic, tell me what's happened since we last saw each other.
JONATHAN: Yeah, for those who don't know -- and we talked about this, Glenn -- The Harbinger, in a nutshell, is saying that what happened in the last days of Israel, the warnings that are given are now appearing in America. And there are nine specific harbingers. And as the nation fell away from God, the warnings came.
Well, they've come here. And that's what The Harbinger says. But one thing I didn't go into, as much, and that is that when Israel was falling away from God, they went to another God. You don't fall away from God without going to another god.
GLENN: Yeah.
JONATHAN: So they went to the God of Baal. Baal. Baal was the God of sexual immorality. He was the god where they offered their children as sacrifices. He was the god of, they're basically calling good evil, evil good. He's the epitome of when you go away from God.
GLENN: And he was also the god of weather and the environment, and the god of war and finance.
JONATHAN: That's right. That is right. That's right.
And they said, you know, he's going to give us prosperity. We're going to go with Baal.
So the thing is, when the harbingers came, behind all the harbingers is they're worshiping Baal. So that's -- he's the god of the harbingers, in the sense of when judgment comes.
Well, America -- now we're watching it race away from God. So could it be -- we would never admit that we're worshiping any other God. We never admit that we have idols, but, of course, we do. Could the sign of Baal appear on American soil? Well, the answer -- here's the thing, Glenn, one week ago, the sign of Baal appeared in America. It appeared in New York City. I was there. I went there to see it.
They unveiled it. And what they did in New York City -- for the first time in history. This is the god of identifying a nation like Israel that turned away from God is here now. They put up -- they erected the arch that led to the temple of Baal. And so this is where the worshipers went there -- so this is the sign. The sign of Baal. This is his arch. You know, it's a sign of a nation that has once known God, turning away. A nation that offers up its children, which, you know, of course, we don't do that, except we have 16 million children in New York City, not only the city of the harbingers, but the city of where abortion became. It's the capital of abortion. The city of -- the sign of a nation calling evil good and good evil. And the other thing about it. So it stands --
GLENN: It's in Times Square, is it not?
PAT: And what's it there for?
JONATHAN: Well, it's the City Hall Park. It's actually right near Ground Zero. You talk about the harbingers.
JEFFY: Wow.
GLENN: Wow.
PAT: I mean, they're not saying it's the archway of Baal, right?
JONATHAN: No, no, they're not. No, they never would.
GLENN: No. They're saying that it is from that temple.
JONATHAN: Yes.
GLENN: But they're saying that it was the gate that was built later. But it does lead to the temple.
PAT: So why did they put it there though?
GLENN: Go ahead.
JONATHAN: Yeah, well, actually this goes in The Harbinger too. Because remember in The Harbinger, there's a destruction, and the people say, "We'll rebuild stronger, greater." Well, it's about rebuilding. Well, this was destroyed, and so they're rebuilding. Saying, we will rebuild. And it was destroyed. In the harbinger, they're rebuilding what the Assyrians destroyed, if you remember.
Well, this was destroyed. The temple of Baal was destroyed by ISIS. ISIS are the incarnation of the Assyrians. Literally, they are -- they have the blood of the Assyrians. So we're actually now rebuilding what the Assyrians destroyed. We're saying -- and they said -- I was there -- you know --
PAT: Oh, my gosh.
JONATHAN: -- they didn't have a sound system. But what the lady said when she spoke, she said, "We're doing this as an act of defiance." This is the harbinger. So this is exactly what happened. Now we've actually not only erected this link to Baal on New York City. We're saying -- we're rebuilding what the Assyrians destroyed. We're doing exactly what happened in the last days of Israel. So talk about a -- so talk about a sign. Talk about a harbinger.
PAT: It's unreal.
JONATHAN: At the same time that America is racing away from God.
PAT: I remember talking about this. And then we were told, no, that's not happening.
JONATHAN: They were saying they were not going to do it.
PAT: Right. And they weren't going to do it. And they went ahead and did it?
JONATHAN: There was an uproar. They didn't do it. And then this happened. They almost didn't even announce it -- it was almost -- there was only a few people there.
GLENN: Unbelievable.
PAT: Wow.
JONATHAN: We saw it. So it happens no matter what. Not that they know what they're doing.
GLENN: Yeah, that's the thing, people don't understand at least when I talk about this initially, I'm not saying that they know what they're doing. That they're evil or anything else. They have no idea.
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: But -- but it -- it is another step and another sign.
JONATHAN: Yeah. Glenn, if you remember -- if you look at every single harbinger -- I mean, Tom Daschle pronouncing --
GLENN: Yes. The tree that Bush planted.
JONATHAN: They don't know what they're doing. They're not planning this, and that makes it even more kind of ominous. But they're doing it because it has to manifest.
The other thing, when I was here last time with you, we played a little clip. But when -- a year and a half ago is when I spoke on Capitol Hill. And it was the day that the Supreme Court was hearing the case on marriage, or the day after.
And what I said was -- let to say was, America is standing between God and Baal. And so choose you this day -- and Elijah said, "Choose you this day -- either follow God if he's the Lord or follow Baal and go to hell. But I didn't expect now we have now erected to Baal, literally. Literally.
GLENN: I wrote the Eye of Moloch. Moloch is another name for Baal. Or linked together.
JONATHAN: Yes, linked together.
GLENN: I wrote that because I realized -- this was probably six, seven, eight years ago, I realized, my gosh, we don't even know we're repeating the pattern. This was before The Harbinger came out. We don't even know we're repeating this pattern. But if you look just at the pattern and you disconnect yourself from the idea that somebody is orchestrating all this -- don't think that. Just look at human patterns. We're repeating the pattern.
I want to talk to you a little bit about -- I've been thinking about Jeremiah an awful lot. And Jeremiah keeps going back to the king. And he's telling the king, look -- what I find fascinating because I think this is another pattern. He goes to the kink and says, "Look, you're going to be humbled because it's -- it's over." Okay? You're going to be humbled. Go and offer yourselves now. Just go and surrender right now and just go into captivity and become their slave. And it will be better for you now.
Instead, no. No. We're going to -- we're going to beat this. We're going to beat this. And then they're slaughtered and then taken into captivity. And you know the rest of the story.
I think we're repeating this now because I think the message is, "America, let go. Let go of your trying to -- and I know this sounds crazy. But let go of trying to keep your lifestyle, trying to, you know, be the big dog, trying to beat your chest, all of this stuff. Let it go. Trust me. It will be better for you now if you just don't cry out for a king."
JONATHAN: Yes.
GLENN: Do you think there's anything to that?
JONATHAN: There is because -- you know, and this goes back to that because what was happening when both -- both southern kingdom Israel and Jeremiah -- actually, it was the southern kingdom. Were destroyed. Was they were saying, we're going to do it on our own, and we're going to come back stronger. And we're going to fight this by our own resources. And we're going to be great again.
You know, well, the thing is, that's fine to be great again, but that's fine -- but not without God. You know, if you don't humble yourself -- so Jeremiah is saying, humble yourself. Come back -- if you don't return to the God who made you great, you're not going to be great again.
America was made great by God. And you're not going to have greatness without returning to that. So, yeah, I feel in a lot of ways, it's the time of Jeremiah. In a lot of ways, it is that.
GLENN: But could this nation return to God without returning to the God of manifest destiny?
We have to return to the humble worship of God, not jamming it down people's throats.
Religion, a lot of times we get a bad rap, because a lot of times it is, you go to hell. You're an evil sinner. And you have to be stopped because you're the problem.
JONATHAN: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Unless you understand religion my way.
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: Where the Founders were, look, we're all going to sit under the vine and the fig, and we have to worship good and follow his commandments, but we're not going to jam it down everybody's throat. Then it was flipped to ugliness.
JONATHAN: Yeah, if you look at Jeremiah, he's called the weeping prophet. He was not a proud person. He's weeping, you know. And that is also one of the signs.
In the last days of Israel, they were treating Jeremiah as an enemy. They put him in prison, Glenn. When the judgment came, he was in prison. So another sign is when you start persecuting the righteous. So but the righteous have to be humble. And, you know, absolutely. So was Jeremiah. But we're also living in those days. We're seeing the beginning of persecution at the same time.
GLENN: I know.
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this the other day that having a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence means that you're willing to lose your house, your nation, your life. You're even -- because you know that whatever it is you're supposed to do, as long as you're in lockstep, following him --
JONATHAN: Uh-huh.
GLENN: You will be able to accomplish that. And I thought, look at how many people -- even Nelson Mandela. Nelson Mandela hadn't even been seen or heard in -- in a decade. And yet, he has his transformation, his humbling --
JONATHAN: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And he changes South America and changes the world. He changes the world. From a prison sell. You know what I mean?
JONATHAN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
GLENN: There's something to, let it all go, not your way. You know, it's not going to happen your way.
JONATHAN: Well, and this is what Jesus said. He said, he who loses his life will find it. Humble yourself, you'll be exalted. And it goes back to George Washington when he gave the warning: Listen, it's not about being great. He said, if you follow God, God is going to bless you. Don't seek the blessings. Seek God.
If you turn away from God, America, the blessings of God are going to be removed.
GLENN: Can you explain -- because I don't think people understand covenants. Can you explain why the covenant that George Washington made in this country matters?
It's not a promise, and it's not something that other countries have done. It's just us and Israel.
JONATHAN: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Explain a covenant for people who don't understand really what that means.
JONATHAN: Well, with Israel, God said, I'm making the covenant with you, and we are one. And, you know, there's terms to the covenant too. If you follow, you're blessed. If you don't, not so.
And so America was founded -- but it goes back to the Puritans. They said, "We are in covenant." Meaning -- not saying it's the same as -- but -- said we will make a covenant with God, that we'll follow him. We'll glorify him. And if we do this -- this goes back to Winthrop, then to -- then onward. If we follow him, we'll be the most blessed people on earth. Well, that's happened. It happened.
But if we turn away from God and his ways -- or Washington said, if we disregard the eternal rules of order and right, which heaven has ordained, than the smiles of heaven are going to be removed from the land. There's a price to it. You know, to whom much is given, much is required. And so we have been given much.
You know, we were here last time -- a year ago, America made a very big decision about the order of God concerning marriage. Well, that's major. You know, major. You cannot disregard the rules and order of heaven.
GLENN: Do you believe -- do you believe in punishment or just, you know, when you ignore the rules of the universe. I mean, George Washington said it in a very non-religious sort of way: There are certain rules that you just obey.
JONATHAN: Yeah, I think it's both, Glenn. I think God sets up things, and if you go against it, that happens.
At the same time, there's correction. There's correction. I'm saying, come back. Most of us don't come to God until something happens. And that's not true, just for people. It's true for our nation. And that's why I kind of fear that there's a shaking coming to America, but for our own good.
GLENN: Okay. So we'll talk about that. And The Book of Mysteries, what's in The Book of Mysteries, coming up in just a second.
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GLENN: Jonathan Cahn, the book is The Book of Mysteries. He is the author of The Harbinger and The Mystery of the Shemitah.
So, Jonathan, let's go through the mysteries and how it relates to us today.
JONATHAN: Uh-huh. Hmm. Yeah. Well, I feel -- this is what I feel. I feel we're going to be seeing very hard times and hard times for believers as well and those who are standing for God.
And I wanted to do this to strengthen them. That we need to be strong in the days ahead, we need to be very grounded in the days ahead. So if The Harbinger opens up -- The Book of Mysteries is revealing of hundreds of mysteries of God. And so -- I mean, from mysteries of the end times, misteries of heaven, hidden writings of the rabbis.
GLENN: Christians have absolutely no idea how many layers there are to the Torah.
JONATHAN: Yeah, yeah.
GLENN: I mean, when you -- Jewish people have so much knowledge beyond Christian understanding of the Bible.
JONATHAN: Well, you know, it's like 2,000 years ago, Glenn, you know -- if we were here at the time of Jesus, it was all together. You know, you had the Jewish disciples. You had the Messiah, Jesus. Then they went their two separate ways. And most Jewish people lost something very big: The Messiah. But the church lost something, and that is the roots. That's the heritage.
GLENN: And the understandings.
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: People -- Christians look at the Bible and they go, "You know it's true because I can read it and it just speaks to me." Yeah, that, and there's about 400 levels beyond that, underneath, that you don't know because it's not taught --
JONATHAN: And, you know, it's great. The translations are great. English is great. But there's things hidden in the original language.
GLENN: Yeah, in Hebrew.
JONATHAN: I'll give you an example. This actually -- the first one is the Greek. Some of the things in there are end time mysteries.
There's a word that's used, when it says, before the end comes, there will be a great falling away from the faith. Now, we see that. And it's called -- we have the word "apostasy." It's a civilization falling away from the ways of God.
But we're watching it. We're talking about it.
But people don't know, hidden in that original word is something -- a whole 'nother thing. "Apostasia" in Greek, it doesn't just mean a falling away from faith. It literally means a departure from the state of being.
So here's what it means: In the same day, when you see culture falling away from the ways of God, you're going to see the departure from the state of being. Man departing from the state of manhood. Women departing from the state of womanhood. Marriage departing from the state of marriage. Family from the state of family. All these things we are watching. You want to know the reason why we're hearing all these things, why the news -- blending of gender and all these things. It goes right to the word. It was hidden 2,000 years ago. You'll see the same thing at the same time.
GLENN: What do you say to people who say, we've seen these before. People have been looking for -- I mean, because you believe we're headed towards the literal apocalypse.
NEIL: End times, yes.
GLENN: Yes, okay.
What do you say to people who say -- we have one minute here before the break.
JONATHAN: Okay.
GLENN: John, I mean, there's been a falling away a million times.
JONATHAN: Yeah, yeah. We've never seen a falling away to this degree. I mean, we're seeing things that even Sodom and Gomorrah didn't see. So we're seeing things that are unprecedented. On top of that, the key sign that was given that you'll know -- it said, when you see Israel come back in the world, that's it. Never happened before. And for 2,000 years, most of the church said, not going to happen. But God said it would happen. Jesus said, I'm not coming until it does happen.
So 1948, back in the world. Then it says Jerusalem, 1967, there. It says the world will focus on Israel. It will be a controversy. We're watching it.
You know, Glenn, I was an atheist. That's what got me.
GLENN: You were an atheist?
JONATHAN: I was an atheist, totally.
GLENN: Back in just a second. Jonathan Cahn, The Book of Mysteries. Back in a minute.
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GLENN: Jonathan Cahn. Jonathan Cahn has -- has had an international and national best-seller for quite a while. The Harbinger and then The Mystery of the Shemitah. How long was The Harbinger top five?
JONATHAN: New York Times, two years I think.
GLENN: Two years, amazing.
JONATHAN: Yeah, yeah. I never wrote a book. I didn't know how to write books, but that was -- I was led to do that.
GLENN: An amazing book. And just feels right to me. And you don't have to be -- you don't have to be really religious to -- you know, you just -- you know, there's a lot of stuff in there that you're like, "Hmm, okay. Not a bad wake-up call."
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: Not a bad wake-up call, but we've missed all of them.
JONATHAN: As Israel did. It's scary, but that's the template.
GLENN: How many more do you -- do you think we --
JONATHAN: Wake-up calls we're going to have? The pattern with ancient Israel, you know, the warnings came, they ignored it. And then as they ignored it, the shakings got bigger and bigger or more and more, until either they were going to come back to God, or they're heading to destruction. Well, they headed to destruction. You know, I pray that's not the same for America, but we're following the same course. We're not getting better, I mean, as a culture. We're racing away, you know.
GLENN: They went into slavery.
JONATHAN: The southern kingdom went into slavery. That actually -- they came back. You know, God restored them later. But the northern kingdom, gone. That's where you hear the ten lost tribes, that's the northern. That was it. That's the -- so you have different templates. But both of them -- if they don't come back, they get worse. And since 9/11, we're certainly not closer to God, as we were then. That's the scary thing.
GLENN: No. So this -- this book, you had -- I don't know -- 360 mysteries. And you had to narrow it down. And I'm interested to hear -- because I know what -- I know what I feel we need.
JONATHAN: Uh-huh.
GLENN: But I'm wondering in your reflection and prayer and everything else, what do you think your message was to say, "This has to get out." What is it that the mysteries are tied together, teaching, what?
JONATHAN: Well, okay. Yeah, there's 365. So that's one for every day of the year. So the thing is, what I feel is this. I don't -- right now, I don't see America turning right now. I mean, I pray, II Chronicles, if my people.
GLENN: Yeah.
JONATHAN: But I don't see that right now. But I see that, and as we're talking during the break, that it's not going to be necessarily easy that we're going to escape all these things. It's, how you're going to be in the midst of it? You know, if the dark is getting darker, we got to get brighter. You know, that's how it was in the days of Jeremiah.
And so this is to strengthen -- it's also for people who don't know the Lord, to bring them in, but it's to strengthen -- if America -- listen, I can't control what America does. You know, I can't control America coming back or revival, but I can have revival in me. You know, I can control what I do. I can -- to wake up -- the church needs revival. God's people need revival. No matter what happens on the outside, we got to be that light. So this is for that reason.
GLENN: Okay. Because I'm feeling the same thing, that nothing matters except that you kick yourself out of the anger into love, that you're strong, that you know what you believe.
JONATHAN: Yeah.
GLENN: That you're just willing to not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.
JONATHAN: That's right. And stand. And you cannot stand unless you're standing on something and you're grounded. You know, as the man who builds his house on the rock. The rain comes. The storms comes, Jesus said. But it's going to stand. We have to be that.
GLENN: What do you say to people who is, "Okay. Well, so this isn't the perfect thing. But we've got to do something. And, yes, I agree, but, you know, this is the best we got?"
JONATHAN: I think we're -- well, I will say -- I cannot judge -- I cannot judge -- believers are between a rock and a hard place.
GLENN: Yes.
JONATHAN: You know, I mentioned -- I know we're not getting political. But I mentioned that I only found out when I look back, that in The Harbinger is Donald Trump, years before. He's quoted. Linked twice.
GLENN: What was the quote?
JONATHAN: The quote -- he's one of those -- it's the chapter called The Tower. And, you know, it's interesting because Donald Trump is linked to towers.
GLENN: Yes.
CARLY: And it's where the people of Israel are saying, we will rebuild stronger, bigger, better, higher. We will rebuild. We'll come back.
Donald Trump is one of the ones quoted where he says, "We got to build this tower higher, bigger, stronger than before. We'll be great." You know, and listen -- but here's the thing: On one side -- if I look on one side, I see a platform, I see an agenda that is totally against God.
GLENN: Yeah.
JONATHAN: I mean, gigantically. And we're going to be in big trouble on one hand, in that sense.
On the other hand, I see a big risk. You know, we don't know what Donald Trump is going to do. But I don't see any hope on the other side. There is a possibility, and God can do anything. And he can save people. And he can touch us regardless of an evil -- a bad leader. So I think the very -- the very fact that we don't have a great choice is a sign of where we are.
GLENN: Yeah.
JONATHAN: So I cannot fault anybody. Everybody has to go before God on this question. But I know one side is going to be disaster. The other thing, Glenn, is that we're already rolling down. We've crossed that tipping point. We're rolling down. So right now, it's not going to take another activist president like Obama to push it farther. All we need is a leader who will not stop it, and it will accelerate.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.
JONATHAN: That's why I believe regardless, our hope is not Washington, our hope is God. And that is no matter what happens, you can stand, you can be strong, and you can be the light. That's why I wrote The Book of Mysteries.
GLENN: So give me -- because this is why I love Jewish rabbis. Because they can take me through language that Christianity doesn't give you. Unless your pastor speaks Hebrew and has really studied it and really gone through Torah study to understand it, they're not teaching the depth of it.
JONATHAN: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, there's so much you will not -- I'll give you an example in Hebrew. When you read the Bible, it talks about the love of God and the mercy of God. In the Hebrew, it doesn't say that. In the Hebrew, it doesn't say he has mercy. It said -- the word is "rahamim," it means he has mercies. Meaning, you cannot say mercy singular. It's got to be plural. Meaning this, there's no end to the mercies of God.
When you say the word for sin is singular, the word for his love is plural. So it means, no matter how much sin you have, he's got more mercy. He's got more love. You cannot -- you wouldn't see that in the English. But it's there.
Another thing, there's an ancient prophecy. You know it, Glenn. Isaiah 53, which speaks about -- in Isaiah, that a Messiah is going to die for our sins. I mean, this blew me away when I was an atheist. You know, it's in our book. What's this Catholic stuff doing in our book?
So, but in Hebrew, it says in his -- it says in his death. But in Hebrew, it doesn't say his death. It says his deaths. In other words, the Messiah will not just die one death. He will die everyone's death. And it means also in Hebrew that the word -- when it does that, it means that the word is so big, that even the word death cannot explain what he did for us. I mean, you wouldn't see that in English. It's there.
GLENN: Right.
JONATHAN: Another one like that. The word God itself, it doesn't say God in the Hebrew Bible. Very first name -- it's Elohim. Elohim is not God. I mean, it's God, but it's actually another plural. In other places, it says Gods. It's only one -- God. But what it's saying is God is so big, so awesome, that the word God cannot even begin to contain how big this is.
So there's no end. There's no end to God. There's no end to knowing God. If you think you know God, you don't even know the half of it. There's so much more to know.
And, you know, at one point -- I didn't mention this. But I kind of used The Harbinger. That there's a teacher teaching this to a disciple in the desert. Every day he takes them to a mountain or every day he -- you know, and at one point, he takes them into a room with all these ancient books. You know, he actually looks like -- looks like one of those ancient books. And he says, "How long would it take you to learn all of these books?" He said, "Well, lifetimes." He said, "Well, that's why you have eternity because eternity is how long it takes to know God." That's the thing, we are never to stop seeking God. There's no end.
GLENN: Tell me about -- hang on just a second. The -- the 10th of Av.
JONATHAN: Oh, yes. Okay.
This is -- the existence of America is actually linked to a mystery of an ancient Hebrew holy day. And I've never shared this in media.
Here's the thing: There's a day on the Hebrew calendar when disaster comes for the Jewish people. It's the 9th of Av. When the temple was destroyed -- Solomon -- on the 9th of Av.
Hundreds of years later, Jesus predicted it, temple of Herod destroyed by the Romans, same exact day, 9th of Av. The Jews are driven out of England, 9th of Av. Out of Spain, 9th of Av. Out of France -- everything. Holocaust is even linked to the 9th of Av. So this is a day of destruction, disaster, mourning.
GLENN: It's a big day in Israel.
JONATHAN: Big day. Big day. And it keeps happening. And so -- but here's the other thing about it, but the 10th of Av, God always brings a redemption. When they're out of one land, he's preparing another land. He keeps them alive. He keeps the Jewish people.
So the 10th of Av is about redemption. It begins the redemption. Well, here's the thing, Glenn: This is a few hundred years ago. The Jewish people have to flee Spain. They're fleeing for their lives. They're told, "If you don't get out, we're going to kill you. If you don't convert, we're going to kill you." They're fleeing on their ships. Fleeing. And it's 9th of Av. Again, 9th of Av. Destruction. They're losing their greatest refuge.
GLENN: May I guess the year?
JONATHAN: You may guess?
GLENN: 1492.
JONATHAN: 1492. The ocean blue. Yes. And so here -- so in the same -- not just that. It's the same week. It's the same -- in the same harbors of Spain, while they're losing their refuge, are the three ships the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. So as they're -- the greatest tragedy, God is preparing a new refuge. It's going to be -- it's the beginning of America. And they're going to set sail on the 10th of Av, which is the day of redemption.
So, in other words, America -- the very beginning of America is linked to this ancient mystery that God's going to -- it's going to become the greatest refuge for the Jewish people in history, and not just the Jewish people, but it's going to be refuge for everybody. So the very existence of America is linked to this ancient Hebrew holy day.
PAT: He's the Jewish David Barton.
JEFFY: He definitely is.
GLENN: I will tell you, I learned that from a rabbi I think in Israel. One of the big, big rabbis I think in Israel. And he talked about the link. Because we were doing Restoring Courage in Israel, during the week of Av. The -- the 9th of Av. And so we were there. And he said, you don't understand -- and he explained the 9th. And then he explained the 10th and said --
PAT: That's great.
GLENN: -- here's the link to America.
PAT: Is that in The Book of Mysteries?
JONATHAN: Yes. Yes. That's one of 365 mysteries, the 9th of Av mystery, yeah.
GLENN: It's so great.
PAT: Really good stuff --
GLENN: Thank you so much for being here.
JONATHAN: Oh, my blessing. It was a joy. It was a joy.
GLENN: Yeah. Jonathan Cahn, The Book of Mysteries. It's available everywhere. If you've not read any of his books, start with this one, then grab The Harbinger and The Mystery of the Shemitah. Really good stuff that you just don't hear any place else. Jonathan, thank you so much.
JONATHAN: Thanks, Glenn.
Featured Image: Rabbi Jonathan Cahn on The Glenn Beck Program, September 29, 2016.